Re: Q: Autism, Asperger's, UNDAs

[Guest guest]

Hello Dr. Zeff,

Dr. Abell recently gave a talk on this. You may be able to get the notes from Seroyal. Great protocols...

I have treated autism with UNDAs, and have seen varying degrees of success. In majority of cases, just basic drainage is impressive on a mental/emotional level. I usually give UNDA #243 (or #1) for liver drainage along with UNDA #45 (or #2) for kidney drainage to just about anyone with ANY condition, including autism. For autism, I recommend UNDA #9 for drainage of the nerves. This combination is very impressive just by itself even within weeks, in many cases. On going liver, kidney and nervous tissue drainage with varying UNDAs and other natural therapies provides good results.

To add to our success, after several months of basic drainage (as stated above), once I know the person's emunctories are working good, then I start the brain protocol. I have only offered this to a few patients, and so far have seen very very good results. In one case, the child's vocabulary improved very noticably just in one month of being on Phase 1.

To top things off, of course I always give a constitutional homeopathic remedy. And, I have also found that a lot of autistic children's remedies can be strange and unusual, such as bufo or tarantula. Of course, I have had the basic polycrests as well.

So far, I have found the following to be true, although of course I continue to learn daily about how to treat autism.

-Basic UNDA drainage (liver, kidney and nerves) can help with emotions, mental, and physical function. The improvements on the emotional level do not seem to be as impressive as the single constitutional remedy.

-The brain protocol definitely appears to help with the mental deficiencies (such as limited vocabulary, etc.) seen in autism.

-Constitutional homeopathy has been extremely impressive in helping with emotional health (i.e. screaming, and other aggressive behavior) of the autistic children in my practice. Of course, physical improvements also come about with the single remedy.

Example, two years of drainage and consitutional, and the kid could still not talk, and was much improved emotionally and physically only. One month of brain protocol, and she started to verbalize!

Hope this helps.

Sharum

Sharum Sharif, N.D.

Whole Health Clinic

Kent, Washington

www.WholeHealthClinic.net

www.VisualHomeopathy.com

Subject: Q: Autism, Asperger's, UNDAsTo: Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 9:15 AM

Has anyone treated Asperger's or Autism Spectrum Disorders with UNDAs, particularly the Brai Protocols?

If so, what have you seen as a result?

Zeff, ND

Vancouver, WA

[Guest guest]

Hello Dr. Zeff,

Dr. Abell recently gave a talk on this. You may be able to get the notes from Seroyal. Great protocols...

I have treated autism with UNDAs, and have seen varying degrees of success. In majority of cases, just basic drainage is impressive on a mental/emotional level. I usually give UNDA #243 (or #1) for liver drainage along with UNDA #45 (or #2) for kidney drainage to just about anyone with ANY condition, including autism. For autism, I recommend UNDA #9 for drainage of the nerves. This combination is very impressive just by itself even within weeks, in many cases. On going liver, kidney and nervous tissue drainage with varying UNDAs and other natural therapies provides good results.

To add to our success, after several months of basic drainage (as stated above), once I know the person's emunctories are working good, then I start the brain protocol. I have only offered this to a few patients, and so far have seen very very good results. In one case, the child's vocabulary improved very noticably just in one month of being on Phase 1.

To top things off, of course I always give a constitutional homeopathic remedy. And, I have also found that a lot of autistic children's remedies can be strange and unusual, such as bufo or tarantula. Of course, I have had the basic polycrests as well.

So far, I have found the following to be true, although of course I continue to learn daily about how to treat autism.

-Basic UNDA drainage (liver, kidney and nerves) can help with emotions, mental, and physical function. The improvements on the emotional level do not seem to be as impressive as the single constitutional remedy.

-The brain protocol definitely appears to help with the mental deficiencies (such as limited vocabulary, etc.) seen in autism.

-Constitutional homeopathy has been extremely impressive in helping with emotional health (i.e. screaming, and other aggressive behavior) of the autistic children in my practice. Of course, physical improvements also come about with the single remedy.

Example, two years of drainage and consitutional, and the kid could still not talk, and was much improved emotionally and physically only. One month of brain protocol, and she started to verbalize!

Hope this helps.

Sharum

Sharum Sharif, N.D.

Whole Health Clinic

Kent, Washington

www.WholeHealthClinic.net

www.VisualHomeopathy.com

Subject: Q: Autism, Asperger's, UNDAsTo: Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 9:15 AM

Has anyone treated Asperger's or Autism Spectrum Disorders with UNDAs, particularly the Brai Protocols?

If so, what have you seen as a result?

Zeff, ND

Vancouver, WA

[Guest guest]

hi dr zeff

how are you? i have had the most success with austitic patients with basic global drainage - a minimum 2 times (sometimes 4 times...autistic children are very poor eliminators), hmf super powder, dha and a great clean diet (gluten free, dairy free) and l-glutamine powder. once their emunctories and bowels are moving, I do constitutional homeopathy. if they cannot communicate with me, I usually take the mother's case and find out how her pregnancy and delivery went (her experience of it)...I match a remedy of her state at that time. I give the mom the remedy and also give the child the same remedy. I find that calms the parent and helps calm the emotional outbursts of the child. when learning and speech is difficult, I usually work on the child alone and match a remedy - interesting cases and unique remedies usually (I agree with Sharum)...i get cases of petroleum (that one was incredible), different snakes, different spiders, lac remedies, not all animal remedies...sometimes a mix of plant and animal like venus fly trap...usually the mother is a big help in determining the sensation this is also true for adhd children

I have always wanted to use the brain protocol but classical homeopathy has been a big help

I would love to hear more of people's experience with the brain protocol...it would be great to shed some light on this issue as i do not have much experience with it

I have used it once with a woman who had an awful case of OCD, it didn't help the OCD but really helped her anxiety. It calmed her emotionally. but that's as far i went with it.

I pray this message finds you all well

Lamise

Dr. Lamise Elkhalil BSc, ND

Naturopathic Family Medicine

Suite 301 - 828 West 8th

Vancouver, BC

6048770504

To: From: sharumsharif@...Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:55:58 -0800Subject: Re: Q: Autism, Asperger's, UNDAs

Hello Dr. Zeff,

Dr. Abell recently gave a talk on this. You may be able to get the notes from Seroyal. Great protocols...

I have treated autism with UNDAs, and have seen varying degrees of success. In majority of cases, just basic drainage is impressive on a mental/emotional level. I usually give UNDA #243 (or #1) for liver drainage along with UNDA #45 (or #2) for kidney drainage to just about anyone with ANY condition, including autism. For autism, I recommend UNDA #9 for drainage of the nerves. This combination is very impressive just by itself even within weeks, in many cases. On going liver, kidney and nervous tissue drainage with varying UNDAs and other natural therapies provides good results.

To add to our success, after several months of basic drainage (as stated above), once I know the person's emunctories are working good, then I start the brain protocol. I have only offered this to a few patients, and so far have seen very very good results. In one case, the child's vocabulary improved very noticably just in one month of being on Phase 1.

To top things off, of course I always give a constitutional homeopathic remedy. And, I have also found that a lot of autistic children's remedies can be strange and unusual, such as bufo or tarantula. Of course, I have had the basic polycrests as well.

So far, I have found the following to be true, although of course I continue to learn daily about how to treat autism.

-Basic UNDA drainage (liver, kidney and nerves) can help with emotions, mental, and physical function. The improvements on the emotional level do not seem to be as impressive as the single constitutional remedy.

-The brain protocol definitely appears to help with the mental deficiencies (such as limited vocabulary, etc.) seen in autism.

-Constitutional homeopathy has been extremely impressive in helping with emotional health (i.e. screaming, and other aggressive behavior) of the autistic children in my practice. Of course, physical improvements also come about with the single remedy.

Example, two years of drainage and consitutional, and the kid could still not talk, and was much improved emotionally and physically only. One month of brain protocol, and she started to verbalize!

Hope this helps.

Sharum

Sharum Sharif, N.D.

Whole Health Clinic

Kent, Washington

www.WholeHealthClinic.net

www.VisualHomeopathy.com

Subject: Q: Autism, Asperger's, UNDAsTo: Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 9:15 AM

Has anyone treated Asperger's or Autism Spectrum Disorders with UNDAs, particularly the Brai Protocols?

If so, what have you seen as a result?

Zeff, ND

Vancouver, WA

[Guest guest]

hi dr zeff

how are you? i have had the most success with austitic patients with basic global drainage - a minimum 2 times (sometimes 4 times...autistic children are very poor eliminators), hmf super powder, dha and a great clean diet (gluten free, dairy free) and l-glutamine powder. once their emunctories and bowels are moving, I do constitutional homeopathy. if they cannot communicate with me, I usually take the mother's case and find out how her pregnancy and delivery went (her experience of it)...I match a remedy of her state at that time. I give the mom the remedy and also give the child the same remedy. I find that calms the parent and helps calm the emotional outbursts of the child. when learning and speech is difficult, I usually work on the child alone and match a remedy - interesting cases and unique remedies usually (I agree with Sharum)...i get cases of petroleum (that one was incredible), different snakes, different spiders, lac remedies, not all animal remedies...sometimes a mix of plant and animal like venus fly trap...usually the mother is a big help in determining the sensation this is also true for adhd children

I have always wanted to use the brain protocol but classical homeopathy has been a big help

I would love to hear more of people's experience with the brain protocol...it would be great to shed some light on this issue as i do not have much experience with it

I have used it once with a woman who had an awful case of OCD, it didn't help the OCD but really helped her anxiety. It calmed her emotionally. but that's as far i went with it.

I pray this message finds you all well

Lamise

Dr. Lamise Elkhalil BSc, ND

Naturopathic Family Medicine

Suite 301 - 828 West 8th

Vancouver, BC

6048770504

To: From: sharumsharif@...Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:55:58 -0800Subject: Re: Q: Autism, Asperger's, UNDAs

Hello Dr. Zeff,

Dr. Abell recently gave a talk on this. You may be able to get the notes from Seroyal. Great protocols...

I have treated autism with UNDAs, and have seen varying degrees of success. In majority of cases, just basic drainage is impressive on a mental/emotional level. I usually give UNDA #243 (or #1) for liver drainage along with UNDA #45 (or #2) for kidney drainage to just about anyone with ANY condition, including autism. For autism, I recommend UNDA #9 for drainage of the nerves. This combination is very impressive just by itself even within weeks, in many cases. On going liver, kidney and nervous tissue drainage with varying UNDAs and other natural therapies provides good results.

To add to our success, after several months of basic drainage (as stated above), once I know the person's emunctories are working good, then I start the brain protocol. I have only offered this to a few patients, and so far have seen very very good results. In one case, the child's vocabulary improved very noticably just in one month of being on Phase 1.

To top things off, of course I always give a constitutional homeopathic remedy. And, I have also found that a lot of autistic children's remedies can be strange and unusual, such as bufo or tarantula. Of course, I have had the basic polycrests as well.

So far, I have found the following to be true, although of course I continue to learn daily about how to treat autism.

-Basic UNDA drainage (liver, kidney and nerves) can help with emotions, mental, and physical function. The improvements on the emotional level do not seem to be as impressive as the single constitutional remedy.

-The brain protocol definitely appears to help with the mental deficiencies (such as limited vocabulary, etc.) seen in autism.

-Constitutional homeopathy has been extremely impressive in helping with emotional health (i.e. screaming, and other aggressive behavior) of the autistic children in my practice. Of course, physical improvements also come about with the single remedy.

Example, two years of drainage and consitutional, and the kid could still not talk, and was much improved emotionally and physically only. One month of brain protocol, and she started to verbalize!

Hope this helps.

Sharum

Sharum Sharif, N.D.

Whole Health Clinic

Kent, Washington

www.WholeHealthClinic.net

www.VisualHomeopathy.com

Subject: Q: Autism, Asperger's, UNDAsTo: Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 9:15 AM

Has anyone treated Asperger's or Autism Spectrum Disorders with UNDAs, particularly the Brai Protocols?

If so, what have you seen as a result?

Zeff, ND

Vancouver, WA

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone-  I have two patients currently on the brain protocol for developmental concerns.  Both are complex cases.  One is a twelve year old boy who I have discussed on this forum before who presented after having pretty much failed every " DAN! " intervention, including chelation.  We've done liver, nervous system and gut work, single remedies as drainers and to treat miasm/temperament/.  This boy was deprived of oxygen at birth and has temporal lobe damage. He had made strides in decreased aggression and improved sleep with initial treatment.  When I felt his emunctories were functioning better and he was sleeping well and " mellow " (his Mom's word) we started Phase one.  First round of phase one he had a URI and showed increased interest in his surroundings and began to use more words.  He did not seem " done " with phase one so we repeated it and he had a major aggravation... was not sleeping for three days straight.  I had Mom give him Belladonna 9CH as an antidote,  and re-dosed Silicea XMK which stabilized him (this was about 8 weeks ago).  We have not yet tried to return to the Brain Protocol, but he is holding steady.

Second case is an 11 yo female who was diagnosed as " mentally retarded " .  She has never presented as withdrawn or aggressive, and she has good receptive language skills but is significantly impaired in terms of development and expressive language. Cognitively she is at the level of a 5 year old.  Again, we've done GI,Liver and CNS drainage and treatment for miasm and temperament prior to starting the brain protocol about a year into her treatment.  We did two rounds of phase one and she has had increased spontaneous language and made progress toward being potty trained but is not yet there.  Mom notes she's " clearer " and more interactive. 

One caveat...I have studied with Dr.Thom and Dr.Gueniot and tend to mix and match their recommendations for the protocol as I see fit, and I will often change the Undas slightly when repeating a phase.I find that I need to have been working with a family for a period of time...at least 6 mo-1year in order to gain their trust prior to starting...just in case an aggravation or regression occurs, they know you can support them through it. 

 

hi dr zeff

 

how are you? i have had the most success with austitic patients with basic global drainage - a minimum 2 times (sometimes 4 times...autistic children are very poor eliminators), hmf super powder, dha and a great clean diet (gluten free, dairy free) and l-glutamine powder. once their emunctories and bowels are moving, I do constitutional homeopathy. if they cannot communicate with me, I usually take the mother's case and find out how her pregnancy and delivery went (her experience of it)...I match a remedy of her state at that time. I give the mom the remedy and also give the child the same remedy. I find that calms the parent and helps calm the emotional outbursts of the child. when learning and speech is difficult, I usually work on the child alone and match a remedy - interesting cases and unique remedies usually (I agree with Sharum)...i get cases of petroleum (that one was incredible), different snakes, different spiders, lac remedies, not all animal remedies...sometimes a mix of plant and animal like venus fly trap...usually the mother is a big help in determining the sensation  this is also true for adhd children

 

I have always wanted to use the brain protocol but classical homeopathy has been a big help

 

I would love to hear more of people's experience with the brain protocol...it would be great to shed some light on this issue as i do not have much experience with it

 

I have used it once with a woman who had an awful case of OCD, it didn't help the OCD but really helped her anxiety. It calmed her emotionally. but that's as far i went with it.

 

I pray this message finds you all well

 

Lamise  

Dr. Lamise Elkhalil BSc, ND

Naturopathic Family Medicine

Suite 301 - 828 West 8th

Vancouver, BC

6048770504  

  

To: From: sharumsharif@...Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:55:58 -0800

Subject: Re: Q: Autism, Asperger's, UNDAs

 

Hello Dr. Zeff,

 

Dr. Abell recently gave a talk on this.  You may be able to get the notes from Seroyal.  Great protocols...

 

I have treated autism with UNDAs, and have seen varying degrees of success.  In majority of cases, just basic drainage is impressive on a mental/emotional level.  I usually give UNDA #243 (or #1) for liver drainage along with UNDA #45 (or #2) for kidney drainage to just about anyone with ANY condition, including autism.  For autism, I recommend UNDA #9 for drainage of the nerves.  This combination is very impressive just by itself even within weeks, in many cases.  On going liver, kidney and nervous tissue drainage with varying UNDAs and other natural therapies provides good results. 

 

To add to our success, after several months of basic drainage (as stated above), once I know the person's emunctories are working good, then I start the brain protocol.  I have only offered this to a few patients, and so far have seen very very good results.  In one case, the child's vocabulary improved very noticably just in one month of being on Phase 1. 

 

To top things off, of course I always give a constitutional homeopathic remedy.  And, I have also found that a lot of autistic children's remedies can be strange and unusual, such as bufo or tarantula.  Of course, I have had the basic polycrests as well. 

 

So far, I have found the following to be true, although of course I continue to learn daily about how to treat autism. 

 

-Basic UNDA drainage (liver, kidney and nerves) can help with emotions, mental, and physical function.   The improvements on the emotional level do not seem to be as impressive as the single constitutional remedy.   

 

-The brain protocol definitely appears to help with the mental deficiencies (such as limited vocabulary, etc.) seen in autism.  

 

-Constitutional homeopathy has been extremely impressive in helping with emotional health (i.e. screaming, and other aggressive behavior) of the autistic children in my practice.  Of course, physical improvements also come about with the single remedy.

 

Example, two years of drainage and consitutional, and the kid could still not talk, and was much improved emotionally and physically only. One month of brain protocol, and she started to verbalize! 

 

Hope this helps. 

Sharum

 

 

Sharum Sharif, N.D.

 

Whole Health Clinic

Kent, Washington

www.WholeHealthClinic.net

www.VisualHomeopathy.com

 

 

Subject: Q: Autism, Asperger's, UNDAsTo:

Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 9:15 AM

 

Has anyone treated Asperger's or Autism Spectrum Disorders with UNDAs, particularly the Brai Protocols?

If so, what have you seen as a result?

 

Zeff, ND

Vancouver, WA

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