Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 > > http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90 > From Happy Herbalist,its 2 1/2 gallons and is ONLY $29.95. > Also....how well does this one work? If anyone has a history with it. > Much appreciated. > Connie > Yes Connie, That is the one I purchased. Today I cut an old t-shirt and did as had suggested and it works fine, just doesn't look as pretty but it stays in the " brewing cupboard " unseen so that is fine. I am looking for a wooden spigot to replace the plastic one and if any of you know where I might find one I would appreciate it. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 >Today I cut an old t-shirt and did as had suggested and it >works fine, just doesn't look as pretty but it stays in the " brewing >cupboard " unseen so that is fine. Right, that was what I was thinking, it wouldn't look as pretty, but pretty is the brew, not the vessel >I am looking for a wooden spigot to replace the plastic one and if any >of you know where I might find one I would appreciate it. >Sandy www.lehmans.com has a wooden spigot, don't know if it will fit. Please let me know if you get the wooden spigot thing going. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 > > www.lehmans.com has a wooden spigot, don't know if it will fit. Please > let me know if you get the wooden spigot thing going. > > --V Thanks , Will let you know! Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hi. I'm new to the list and new to KT, but am finding this list so informative and helpful. Just first want to say thanks to everyone for putting out such great information. Now--I have seen big jars that must be at least 2 gallons in our local Wal-mart. They are glass, no spigot, and have a loose fitting glass top, for $13. I'm thinking of getting one and was wondering about the instructions I have seen here and on the happy herbalist about stirring during continuos brewing. My question is--wouldn't that just destroy the scoby? I do have a scoby but let it sit too long in the tea and it turned to vinegar, but the scoby completely covers the top of the liquid, touching all sides of the gallon jar. If I were to stick a spoon in there and stir I'd certainly crush up the scoby wouldn't I? Thanks in advance Gaiacita -------Original Message------- http://WWW.happyherbalist.Com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90 From Happy Herbalist,its 2 1/2 gallons and is ONLY $29.95. Also....how well does this one work? If anyone has a history with it. Much appreciated. Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Evening Connie You might want to check out http://www.foryourwater.com/. My daughter bought me one of their crocks for my last birthday. I find with the 2 1/2 crock you get about 2 gallons of tea going. Drawing any more than about 18 oz a day the pH starts to climb. I got a 3 1/2 gallon crock from Sams Club and now use that for my continuous brew now and can draw about 36 oz and day and maintain pH and flavor. Bill ><http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90>http://w\ ww.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90 > From Happy Herbalist,its 2 1/2 gallons and is ONLY $29.95. >Also....how well does this one work? If anyone has a history with it. >Much appreciated. >Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Evening Connie You might want to check out http://www.foryourwater.com/. My daughter bought me one of their crocks for my last birthday. I find with the 2 1/2 crock you get about 2 gallons of tea going. Drawing any more than about 18 oz a day the pH starts to climb. I got a 3 1/2 gallon crock from Sams Club and now use that for my continuous brew now and can draw about 36 oz and day and maintain pH and flavor. Bill ><http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90>http://w\ ww.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90 > From Happy Herbalist,its 2 1/2 gallons and is ONLY $29.95. >Also....how well does this one work? If anyone has a history with it. >Much appreciated. >Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Evening Connie You might want to check out http://www.foryourwater.com/. My daughter bought me one of their crocks for my last birthday. I find with the 2 1/2 crock you get about 2 gallons of tea going. Drawing any more than about 18 oz a day the pH starts to climb. I got a 3 1/2 gallon crock from Sams Club and now use that for my continuous brew now and can draw about 36 oz and day and maintain pH and flavor. Bill ><http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90>http://w\ ww.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90 > From Happy Herbalist,its 2 1/2 gallons and is ONLY $29.95. >Also....how well does this one work? If anyone has a history with it. >Much appreciated. >Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Bill (or anyone who can help) I am going to start a continuous brew this week, been doing it the other way for a year and a half. I was wanting to draw off about 2 gallons every 8 - 10 days (2 1/2 gal container that I don't have yet) then add more new tea. Will this work? I don't really want to have to draw daily. I like to bottle for a couple of weeks and then chill. Thanks, Connie > > Evening Connie > > You might want to check out http://www.foryourwater.com/. My > daughter bought me one of their crocks for my last birthday. I find > with the 2 1/2 crock you get about 2 gallons of tea going. Drawing > any more than about 18 oz a day the pH starts to climb. I got a 3 > 1/2 gallon crock from Sams Club and now use that for my continuous > brew now and can draw about 36 oz and day and maintain pH and flavor. > > Bill > > > > ><http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp? PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90>http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp? PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90 > > From Happy Herbalist,its 2 1/2 gallons and is ONLY $29.95. > >Also....how well does this one work? If anyone has a history with it. > >Much appreciated. > >Connie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Bill (or anyone who can help) I am going to start a continuous brew this week, been doing it the other way for a year and a half. I was wanting to draw off about 2 gallons every 8 - 10 days (2 1/2 gal container that I don't have yet) then add more new tea. Will this work? I don't really want to have to draw daily. I like to bottle for a couple of weeks and then chill. Thanks, Connie > > Evening Connie > > You might want to check out http://www.foryourwater.com/. My > daughter bought me one of their crocks for my last birthday. I find > with the 2 1/2 crock you get about 2 gallons of tea going. Drawing > any more than about 18 oz a day the pH starts to climb. I got a 3 > 1/2 gallon crock from Sams Club and now use that for my continuous > brew now and can draw about 36 oz and day and maintain pH and flavor. > > Bill > > > > ><http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp? PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90>http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp? PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90 > > From Happy Herbalist,its 2 1/2 gallons and is ONLY $29.95. > >Also....how well does this one work? If anyone has a history with it. > >Much appreciated. > >Connie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Bill (or anyone who can help) I am going to start a continuous brew this week, been doing it the other way for a year and a half. I was wanting to draw off about 2 gallons every 8 - 10 days (2 1/2 gal container that I don't have yet) then add more new tea. Will this work? I don't really want to have to draw daily. I like to bottle for a couple of weeks and then chill. Thanks, Connie > > Evening Connie > > You might want to check out http://www.foryourwater.com/. My > daughter bought me one of their crocks for my last birthday. I find > with the 2 1/2 crock you get about 2 gallons of tea going. Drawing > any more than about 18 oz a day the pH starts to climb. I got a 3 > 1/2 gallon crock from Sams Club and now use that for my continuous > brew now and can draw about 36 oz and day and maintain pH and flavor. > > Bill > > > > ><http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp? PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90>http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp? PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90 > > From Happy Herbalist,its 2 1/2 gallons and is ONLY $29.95. > >Also....how well does this one work? If anyone has a history with it. > >Much appreciated. > >Connie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. Tonia --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. Tonia --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. Tonia --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. Tonia --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. Tonia --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 People have asked about plastic recently. Please remember that kombucha is highly acidic and the information on plastic from the FDA is incomplete. I would be really careful about any plastic vessel; I personally use glass. --V >There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might >be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic >bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that >I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check >a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a >bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. > > Tonia ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 People have asked about plastic recently. Please remember that kombucha is highly acidic and the information on plastic from the FDA is incomplete. I would be really careful about any plastic vessel; I personally use glass. --V >There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might >be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic >bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that >I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check >a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a >bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. > > Tonia ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 People have asked about plastic recently. Please remember that kombucha is highly acidic and the information on plastic from the FDA is incomplete. I would be really careful about any plastic vessel; I personally use glass. --V >There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might >be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic >bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that >I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check >a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a >bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. > > Tonia ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Every site I have vistited about Kombucha warn against using any metal or plastic for brewing your KT. It can leach toxins out of plastic and metal. I wouldn't use either one. I have even read not to use the tea jars with spigets in them. Just what I have read. Baker wrote: People have asked about plastic recently. Please remember that kombucha is highly acidic and the information on plastic from the FDA is incomplete. I would be really careful about any plastic vessel; I personally use glass. --V >There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might >be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic >bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that >I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check >a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a >bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. > > Tonia ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 What does the Happy Herbalist say about their plastic spigot in the 2 1/2 gal porceline pot......what grade of plastic is it. Is there anyone who has used it for a long period of time? People have asked about plastic recently. Please remember that kombucha is > highly acidic and the information on plastic from the FDA is incomplete. I > would be really careful about any plastic vessel; I personally use glass. --V > > >There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might > >be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic > >bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that > >I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check > >a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a > >bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. > > > > Tonia > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hi If you go to Gunther s site http://www.kombu.de/english.htm and click " How to make your own Kombucha Tea " under step 5 you will find " When the tea has cooled to room temperature, pour the solution into a glass, china, glazed earthenware or stainless steel container. Glass is best. Metal containers of other types than stainless steel are unsatisfactory and should never be used because the acids formed may react with the metal. You could also use a high-grade synthetic material of the polylefine group, e.g. polyethylene (PE) or polypropylene. Wine or cider is also kept in containers made of this food-grade material. " It is interesting to note that in his book " Kombucha Healthy beverage and natural remedy from the Far East " 9th Edition 1995. He states the same thing. An earlier edition I read recommended against any metal. I wonder if stainless has been inadvertently grouped with metal that do react with KT? Early wittings, before stainless steel really came of age stated metal was a no no. Have authors included stainless because it is a metal? With the depth of research Gunter has done over the years on Kombucha I find it hard to believe that he would recommend something unsafe. JMHO Bill >Every site I have vistited about Kombucha warn against using any >metal or plastic for brewing your KT. It can leach toxins out of >plastic and metal. I wouldn't use either one. I have even read not >to use the tea jars with spigets in them. Just what I have read. > > > Baker wrote: >People have asked about plastic recently. Please remember that kombucha is >highly acidic and the information on plastic from the FDA is incomplete. I >would be really careful about any plastic vessel; I personally use glass. --V > > >There's a picture on a kombucha website (don't remember which one, might > >be Happy Herbalist) that shows a continuous brew in a 5 gallon plastic > >bucket with a spigot. There's one in the break room where I work that > >I've been coveting. It's got " Iced Tea " printed on it. You might check > >a restaurant supply place and see if you can get one there if you need a > >bigger container. For now, I'm happy with my current set up. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 >Hi Connie The theory behind continuous brewing is that you draw off what you drink a day. Replace the same amount of sweet tea and repeat the next day. Most articles I've read say your can you can draw off up to 10% of you containers volume a day. So if you use a quart a day your container should hold 10 quarts of tea. Some say you can draw off up to 20% of the volume. For my brewing conditions if I draw off more than 10% the pH starts to climb and the taste starts to move to the sweeter side. If I skip a day to let the Ph drop the flavor becomes more tart. I started of with a 2 1/2 crock similar to the one sold by The Happy Herbalist. Your really looking at a little less than 2 gallons tea. I tried bottling 2 GT bottles (36oz) which was about 15% of the tea and within 3 weeks had my KT totally out of balance. I started a new batch of KT and bottled 18oz (7%) and was able to maintain taste and pH for 3 months. I like to clean my containers every 3 months and restart with fresh KT. This summer I got a 3.8 gallon crock from Sams Club and make 3 gallons of KT in it. I can draw off 36 oz and maintain pH and taste. A lot of people draw off and drink the KT directly from the crock. I bottle mine with fruit added and allow to age 2 days. My wife prefers her KT a little more tart than I like and fruit infused. I bottle in the morning and add my sweet tea then. I just remove the cover and pour the sweet over the SCOBE and replace the covering. From what you describe below I don't think continuous brewing is for you. With the 2 1/2 crock you can get about 7 750ml bottles or 6 quart from a fermentation cycle. Add a gallon jar and you've got your 2 gallons. I now use my 2 2 1/2 gallon crocks for batch brewing as well as up to eight gallon jars. Bill >Bill (or anyone who can help) >I am going to start a continuous brew this week, been doing it the >other way for a year and a half. I was wanting to draw off about 2 >gallons every 8 - 10 days (2 1/2 gal container that I don't have yet) >then add more new tea. Will this work? I don't really want to have >to draw daily. I like to bottle for a couple of weeks and then chill. >Thanks, >Connie > > > > > > Evening Connie > > > > You might want to check out > <http://www.foryourwater.com/.>http://www.foryourwater.com/. My > > daughter bought me one of their crocks for my last birthday. I find > > with the 2 1/2 crock you get about 2 gallons of tea going. Drawing > > any more than about 18 oz a day the pH starts to climb. I got a 3 > > 1/2 gallon crock from Sams Club and now use that for my continuous > > brew now and can draw about 36 oz and day and maintain pH and >flavor. > > > > Bill > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Bill: That was so very helpful, it clarified everything for me. I do want to experience continuous brew so I will do what it takes. I will continue to brew the other way with my 5 gallon glass containers too. My husband loves what I make that way and does not want me to change it. The continuoues brew will be a new adventure. I think I have one more question though.....earlier some one said NOT to bottle it and let it sit too long because it is sweeter than the single stage brew. I will be bottling and leaving it at room temp till I get the taste and bubbles that I like, at this point I do not know how long that will be. With the single stage I leave it for about 14 days then we chill and drink, its perfect, just the way we like it. So when I start I should probably do a 10% draw and add, then taste next day (or check PH) and if on any day it seems too sour maybe take a bit more that day and add more. Is it a good idea to watch the level inside the crock to compensate for evaporation? Am I thinking of this correctly? Also, I ordered the 2 1/2 gal. keg from Happy Herbalist, how much tea do you think I will actually add on startup? You said you do bottle yours so I will guess your going to say its OK to do, I would assume that by letting it sit for a peoiod of time will take care of the extra sugar from continuous brew. Thank you so much for your clarification. I look forward to your response. ~Connie Barrett~ > > > > > > Evening Connie > > > > > > You might want to check out > > <http://www.foryourwater.com/.>http://www.foryourwater.com/. My > > > daughter bought me one of their crocks for my last birthday. I find > > > with the 2 1/2 crock you get about 2 gallons of tea going. Drawing > > > any more than about 18 oz a day the pH starts to climb. I got a 3 > > > 1/2 gallon crock from Sams Club and now use that for my continuous > > > brew now and can draw about 36 oz and day and maintain pH and > >flavor. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Evening Connie The secondary fermentation is supposed to help carbonation and mellow the flavor. The only thing I've found to increase carbonation is to bottle on the sweet side and infuse with fruit. Since I tend to bottle on the tart side I have very little carbonation form the secondary fermentation. I see no way that the KT could get sweeter during the secondary fermentation unless something is add that contains sugar. I do a two day secondary fermentation then move to a cool area for storage. I haven't had to compensate for evaporation yet but it is something to consider. I have not had good luck trying to adjusting the pH or flavor after I start drawing the KT. If I draw off extra KT so I can add more sweet tea to get a bit less tartness the pH climbs. If I draw off less to let the pH drop the flavor get more tart. Sometimes I bottle 750 ml instead of a liter and this does not seem to effect the balance. Drawing off in the 10% area I've been able to maintain the balance for 3 months. I chose to bottle everything in the crock at about 3 months, clean the container and start a fresh batch. I know some people that will go 6 month or even a year between cleaning and starting fresh batches . I fill my crocks to where the liquid level with SCOBE is where the crock starts its curve in which is about the 8 quart level. A little more or less depending on the thickness of the SCOBE being used. I use 1 quart starter tea to about 7 quarts sweet tea. During the summer I ferment for about 9 days and about 11 days this time of year. I think it's time to start reviewing some of my KT books. I was just looking at Alick & Mari Bartholomew's book. Interesting is that they recommend drawing off 1/3 the volume of the continuous fermentation liquid and bottling it. Add the same amount of sweet tea and let ferment to the desired taste. Interesting will have to give that a try. Bill >Bill: >That was so very helpful, it clarified everything for me. I do want >to experience continuous brew so I will do what it takes. > >I will continue to brew the other way with my 5 gallon glass >containers too. My husband loves what I make that way and does not >want me to change it. The continuoues brew will be a new adventure. > >I think I have one more question though.....earlier some one said NOT >to bottle it and let it sit too long because it is sweeter than the >single stage brew. I will be bottling and leaving it at room temp >till I get the taste and bubbles that I like, at this point I do not >know how long that will be. With the single stage I leave it for >about 14 days then we chill and drink, its perfect, just the way we >like it. > >So when I start I should probably do a 10% draw and add, then taste >next day (or check PH) and if on any day it seems too sour maybe take >a bit more that day and add more. Is it a good idea to watch the >level inside the crock to compensate for evaporation? Am I thinking >of this correctly? > >Also, I ordered the 2 1/2 gal. keg from Happy Herbalist, how much tea >do you think I will actually add on startup? >You said you do bottle yours so I will guess your going to say its OK >to do, I would assume that by letting it sit for a peoiod of time >will take care of the extra sugar from continuous brew. Thank you so >much for your clarification. I look forward to your response. > >~Connie Barrett~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Evening Connie The secondary fermentation is supposed to help carbonation and mellow the flavor. The only thing I've found to increase carbonation is to bottle on the sweet side and infuse with fruit. Since I tend to bottle on the tart side I have very little carbonation form the secondary fermentation. I see no way that the KT could get sweeter during the secondary fermentation unless something is add that contains sugar. I do a two day secondary fermentation then move to a cool area for storage. I haven't had to compensate for evaporation yet but it is something to consider. I have not had good luck trying to adjusting the pH or flavor after I start drawing the KT. If I draw off extra KT so I can add more sweet tea to get a bit less tartness the pH climbs. If I draw off less to let the pH drop the flavor get more tart. Sometimes I bottle 750 ml instead of a liter and this does not seem to effect the balance. Drawing off in the 10% area I've been able to maintain the balance for 3 months. I chose to bottle everything in the crock at about 3 months, clean the container and start a fresh batch. I know some people that will go 6 month or even a year between cleaning and starting fresh batches . I fill my crocks to where the liquid level with SCOBE is where the crock starts its curve in which is about the 8 quart level. A little more or less depending on the thickness of the SCOBE being used. I use 1 quart starter tea to about 7 quarts sweet tea. During the summer I ferment for about 9 days and about 11 days this time of year. I think it's time to start reviewing some of my KT books. I was just looking at Alick & Mari Bartholomew's book. Interesting is that they recommend drawing off 1/3 the volume of the continuous fermentation liquid and bottling it. Add the same amount of sweet tea and let ferment to the desired taste. Interesting will have to give that a try. Bill >Bill: >That was so very helpful, it clarified everything for me. I do want >to experience continuous brew so I will do what it takes. > >I will continue to brew the other way with my 5 gallon glass >containers too. My husband loves what I make that way and does not >want me to change it. The continuoues brew will be a new adventure. > >I think I have one more question though.....earlier some one said NOT >to bottle it and let it sit too long because it is sweeter than the >single stage brew. I will be bottling and leaving it at room temp >till I get the taste and bubbles that I like, at this point I do not >know how long that will be. With the single stage I leave it for >about 14 days then we chill and drink, its perfect, just the way we >like it. > >So when I start I should probably do a 10% draw and add, then taste >next day (or check PH) and if on any day it seems too sour maybe take >a bit more that day and add more. Is it a good idea to watch the >level inside the crock to compensate for evaporation? Am I thinking >of this correctly? > >Also, I ordered the 2 1/2 gal. keg from Happy Herbalist, how much tea >do you think I will actually add on startup? >You said you do bottle yours so I will guess your going to say its OK >to do, I would assume that by letting it sit for a peoiod of time >will take care of the extra sugar from continuous brew. Thank you so >much for your clarification. I look forward to your response. > >~Connie Barrett~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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