Soy

August 28, 2001

Soy is also a problem with people who have thyroid problems. And women who have polycystic ovarian syndrome are usually estrogen dominant and shouldn't have too much soy.

-----Original Message-----From: mb Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:29 PMTo: bodyforlife Subject: SoyJust a word of caution about soy for those who are still in childbearing years, and especially those who still want to conceive. Too much soy can cause a negative feedback with our own hormones. In other words, if you consume too much soy, your body thinks there is enough estrogen and therefore will not produce as much of its own. For those who are peri or post menopausal this is not really a problem.

August 28, 2001

Explian the soy and thyroid?

> Soy is also a problem with people who have thyroid problems. And

women who

> have polycystic ovarian syndrome are usually estrogen dominant and

shouldn't

> have too much soy.

> Soy

>

> Just a word of caution about soy for those who are still in

childbearing

> years, and especially those who still want to conceive. Too much

soy can

> cause a negative feedback with our own hormones. In other words,

if you

> consume too much soy, your body thinks there is enough estrogen

and

> therefore will not produce as much of its own. For those who are

peri or

> post menopausal this is not really a problem.

August 28, 2001

I never heard that about soy and thyroid problems... what is the

connection/problem? I Have a pesky thyroid (well, whats left of it!

LOL)

AMy

> Soy is also a problem with people who have thyroid problems. And

women who

> have polycystic ovarian syndrome are usually estrogen dominant and

shouldn't

> have too much soy.

> Soy

>

> Just a word of caution about soy for those who are still in

childbearing

> years, and especially those who still want to conceive. Too much

soy can

> cause a negative feedback with our own hormones. In other words,

if you

> consume too much soy, your body thinks there is enough estrogen

and

> therefore will not produce as much of its own. For those who are

peri or

> post menopausal this is not really a problem.

August 28, 2001

I never heard that about soy and thyroid problems... what is the

connection/problem? I Have a pesky thyroid (well, whats left of it!

LOL)

AMy

> Soy is also a problem with people who have thyroid problems. And

women who

> have polycystic ovarian syndrome are usually estrogen dominant and

shouldn't

> have too much soy.

> Soy

>

> Just a word of caution about soy for those who are still in

childbearing

> years, and especially those who still want to conceive. Too much

soy can

> cause a negative feedback with our own hormones. In other words,

if you

> consume too much soy, your body thinks there is enough estrogen

and

> therefore will not produce as much of its own. For those who are

peri or

> post menopausal this is not really a problem.

August 29, 2001

I got this info from this website. There is a lot more info there if you're interested, but this pretty much says it all.

http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa083099.htm

"Researchers have identified that the isoflavones act as potent anti-thyroid agents, and are capable of suppressing thyroid function, and causing or worsening hypothyroidism. Soy is a phytoestrogen, and therefore acts in the body much like a hormone, so it's no surprise that it interacts with the delicate balance of the thyroid's hormonal systems. High consumption of soy products are also proven to cause goiter, (Anti-thyroid isoflavones from soybean: isolation, characterization, and mechanisms of action, Divi RL; Chang HC; Doerge DR, National Center for Toxicological Research, Jefferson, AR 72079, USA, Biochem Pharmacol, 1997 Nov, 54:10, 1087-96) "

-----Original Message-----From: conkretemason@... Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:02 PMTo: bodyforlife Subject: Re: SoyExplian the soy and thyroid

February 5, 2005

Hi Jeanne!

Back slowly away from the soy! As someone who is

hypothyroid with a no soy tolerance, I can tell you that soy can

really interfere with your well being. Soy intake, especially

soy protein and soy isoflavones, can and will make you feel as though

your hypothyroidism has intensified. The hype about soy,

marketed especially toward women of " a certain age " , really

burns me up. Because when it comes to the hypothyroid woman, soy

will actually worsen your situation to a dangerous level. It is

the physical equivalent of throwing your thyroid replacement pills out

the window.

The two years before my hypothyroid condition went into

overdrive, I consumed large amounts of soy and textured soy products.

In terms of my own condition, I think that's the straw that broke the

camel's back.

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

Hi, I was wondering on what you all

thought about soy and it's

effect on the thyroid. I read the recent article that someone

sent

and I've read that it isn't a good idea but I have a friend who

keeps trying to get me to take a product called Relive. It's a

soy

based vitamin powder supplement. She swears that people get

off

their throid medicine and that it even helped someone with their

thyroid cancer. I have thryoid nodules and they first became

evident after I started drinking soy milk for 2 months straight.

I

don't know if it was just a coincidence but I am leary of soy

now.

Does anyone have an opinion on this or Relive?

Thanks so much

Jeanne

February 5, 2005

Hi Jeanne!

Back slowly away from the soy! As someone who is

hypothyroid with a no soy tolerance, I can tell you that soy can

really interfere with your well being. Soy intake, especially

soy protein and soy isoflavones, can and will make you feel as though

your hypothyroidism has intensified. The hype about soy,

marketed especially toward women of " a certain age " , really

burns me up. Because when it comes to the hypothyroid woman, soy

will actually worsen your situation to a dangerous level. It is

the physical equivalent of throwing your thyroid replacement pills out

the window.

The two years before my hypothyroid condition went into

overdrive, I consumed large amounts of soy and textured soy products.

In terms of my own condition, I think that's the straw that broke the

camel's back.

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

Hi, I was wondering on what you all

thought about soy and it's

effect on the thyroid. I read the recent article that someone

sent

and I've read that it isn't a good idea but I have a friend who

keeps trying to get me to take a product called Relive. It's a

soy

based vitamin powder supplement. She swears that people get

off

their throid medicine and that it even helped someone with their

thyroid cancer. I have thryoid nodules and they first became

evident after I started drinking soy milk for 2 months straight.

I

don't know if it was just a coincidence but I am leary of soy

now.

Does anyone have an opinion on this or Relive?

Thanks so much

Jeanne

February 6, 2005

Yes, it's all true, that is, that soy will block the uptake of the thyroid

hormone into the body cells, and is probably one of the worst vexors of the

thyroid hormone ever seen. The only thyroid patient it might work on is a

hyperthyroid person. They might get off their thyroid meds from using it,

that is the meds that block the uptake of thyroid hormone. That's how bad

it is. This information is everywhere. I loved the taste of a powdered

drink mix called Naturade, and used it several yrs ago to drop weight, as a

meal replacement. I think that I had a large combination of causes for the

downfall of my Hashi's gland and wouldn't doubt that this was one of the

contributing factors there. That was in early '99. I drank the stuff for

around 6 months or so and did lose the weight, but then around another 6

months went by, and that's when I started feeling so awful. I'm sure that

it wasn't ONLY that (stress, etc..), and I was diagnosed with thyroid

disease more than 7 yrs before the gland went really haywire, was taking T4

med for it in all that time, but what I didn't know was that I had Hashi's,

and I didn't have the info about many of the causes of further downhill

progress of the thyroid gland. This one is a definite, and it is known

about by many many medical authorities.

Soy

>

> Hi, I was wondering on what you all thought about soy and it's

> effect on the thyroid. I read the recent article that someone sent

> and I've read that it isn't a good idea but I have a friend who

> keeps trying to get me to take a product called Relive. It's a soy

> based vitamin powder supplement. She swears that people get off

> their throid medicine and that it even helped someone with their

> thyroid cancer. I have thryoid nodules and they first became

> evident after I started drinking soy milk for 2 months straight. I

> don't know if it was just a coincidence but I am leary of soy now.

> Does anyone have an opinion on this or Relive?

>

> Thanks so much

> Jeanne

February 6, 2005