Re: Chloramine Treated Water

[Guest guest]

>I've got chloramine treated tap water and have used it to brew

>kombucha for about 7 months. No negative effects on the brewing

>process were seen for about 3 months. Then, a noticeable decrease

>occurred in the SCOBY's growth and the probiotic health effects also

>decreased.

Thank you so much for posting,, Dennis. This is exactly the problem. The

KT culture is very strong, so can resist assaults like this for a fairly

long time before succumbing.

>I first attributed it to a decrease in the brewing temps with the

>onset of fall weather, so bought a heating pad and thermostat. But the

>problem continued.

>

>Using chloramine free water cleared up the problem. The yeast is very

>active and the probiotic health effects have returned in full force.

Excellent! People who can afford to do so should invest in filters for

their drinking water and also for their bath water. There are a number of

very good, less expensive filters available now for showers and

baths. Doesn't filter for everything, just the

chlorine/chloramines. Initial investment is followed by maintenance of the

filter media, typically needs to be changed once a year. So decisions

about which filter to buy should incorporate the cost of replacement

filters and how often replaced. I've been filtering my drinking water

since the 80s, I use MultiPure (no business connect with them). Even

during the times money is extremely scarce, I consider filtered water a

basic necessity for health.

best wishes,

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

>I've got chloramine treated tap water and have used it to brew

>kombucha for about 7 months. No negative effects on the brewing

>process were seen for about 3 months. Then, a noticeable decrease

>occurred in the SCOBY's growth and the probiotic health effects also

>decreased.

Thank you so much for posting,, Dennis. This is exactly the problem. The

KT culture is very strong, so can resist assaults like this for a fairly

long time before succumbing.

>I first attributed it to a decrease in the brewing temps with the

>onset of fall weather, so bought a heating pad and thermostat. But the

>problem continued.

>

>Using chloramine free water cleared up the problem. The yeast is very

>active and the probiotic health effects have returned in full force.

Excellent! People who can afford to do so should invest in filters for

their drinking water and also for their bath water. There are a number of

very good, less expensive filters available now for showers and

baths. Doesn't filter for everything, just the

chlorine/chloramines. Initial investment is followed by maintenance of the

filter media, typically needs to be changed once a year. So decisions

about which filter to buy should incorporate the cost of replacement

filters and how often replaced. I've been filtering my drinking water

since the 80s, I use MultiPure (no business connect with them). Even

during the times money is extremely scarce, I consider filtered water a

basic necessity for health.

best wishes,

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Did you see where it says that chlorimine cannot be removed by boiling? We

use a filter, but this could be a problem for people who depend on boiling

to remove it. How do you find out if your city uses chloramine or chlorine?

Using chloramine free water cleared up the problem. The yeast is very

> active and the probiotic health effects have returned in full force.

>

> An interesting photo of some bulk water treated with chloramine can be

> seen at:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine

>

> Kitty hizar

>

> _._,_.___http://usefulhouseplants.blogspot.com/

>

>

>

http://buildingmyhouse.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Did you see where it says that chlorimine cannot be removed by boiling? We

use a filter, but this could be a problem for people who depend on boiling

to remove it. How do you find out if your city uses chloramine or chlorine?

Using chloramine free water cleared up the problem. The yeast is very

> active and the probiotic health effects have returned in full force.

>

> An interesting photo of some bulk water treated with chloramine can be

> seen at:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine

>

> Kitty hizar

>

> _._,_.___http://usefulhouseplants.blogspot.com/

>

>

>

http://buildingmyhouse.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

>

>Did you see where it says that chlorimine cannot be removed by boiling? We

>use a filter, but this could be a problem for people who depend on boiling

>to remove it. How do you find out if your city uses chloramine or chlorine?

Yes, I've talked about this many times. You can call your water company

and ask them, they will be able to tell you.

While it was once thought that boiling all the water was a good preparation

for making kombucha, it actually turns out that there are a number of

reasons why boiling all the water used doesn't make sense. The (possible)

presence of chloramines that won't be removed is one reason, the fact that

boiling doesn't kill all potential problem organisms, the fact that boiling

in fact concentrates unwanted substances in water and removes needed

oxygen, the fact that the time it takes to cool the sweetened tea when it

has all boiled is time mold can set in, and the fact that it requires fuel

that is a precious resource.

To my knowledge, the only time boiling all the water makes sense is when it

is known that there is a high level of organic material and microorganisms

and there is no filter for the water, or, if the water is chlorinated (not

chloramine). However, letting the water sit overnight in a wide-mouth

container and stirring occasionally will remove the chlorine.

Again, letting the water sit overnight or boiling it does not remove any

chloramine. People need to research their water and act accordingly, which

is why the instruction to " boil all the water " is inadequate in today's world.

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

When we moved here in Ohio in 2002, I could smell chlorine in the

water. I also found out that certain areas were dumped with toxic

waste and some areas even had children dx'd with a form of cancer,

though everyone in local and gov't office quieted that accusation, I

found myself getting 5 gallon water to put in my water dispenser. I

found a great Organic/Health Food market that offers clean, pure

water at 19 cents a gallon thats been put through several

purification processes. It's the best tasting water and I've been

able to tell the difference between pure and the regular tap which

has chlorine and other metals in it.

I was interested in all the information you all have put out on this

subject. I have hypothyroid and while it does cause some hairloss,

I've been saying for months that I've smelled horrendous chlorine

through our shower. THEN we found out that the local businesses were

complaining because their water tasted like algae. I'm assuming they

were trying to add high amounts of chlorine to cover the algae

problem with the local water.

I'm grateful for buying the cleaner purified water that we have, but

I'm looking into the shower and kitchen faucet filters as well now

because I want the cleanest, healthiest water.

Thanks for this wealth of information!

Rebekah

>

> Hi,

> Did you see where it says that chlorimine cannot be removed by

boiling? We

> use a filter, but this could be a problem for people who depend on

boiling

> to remove it. How do you find out if your city uses chloramine or

chlorine?

>

> Using chloramine free water cleared up the problem. The yeast is

very

> > active and the probiotic health effects have returned in full

force.

> >

> > An interesting photo of some bulk water treated with chloramine

can be

> > seen at:

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine

> >

> > Kitty hizar

> >

> > _._,_.___http://usefulhouseplants.blogspot.com/

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> http://buildingmyhouse.blogspot.com/

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When we moved here in Ohio in 2002, I could smell chlorine in the

water. I also found out that certain areas were dumped with toxic

waste and some areas even had children dx'd with a form of cancer,

though everyone in local and gov't office quieted that accusation, I

found myself getting 5 gallon water to put in my water dispenser. I

found a great Organic/Health Food market that offers clean, pure

water at 19 cents a gallon thats been put through several

purification processes. It's the best tasting water and I've been

able to tell the difference between pure and the regular tap which

has chlorine and other metals in it.

I was interested in all the information you all have put out on this

subject. I have hypothyroid and while it does cause some hairloss,

I've been saying for months that I've smelled horrendous chlorine

through our shower. THEN we found out that the local businesses were

complaining because their water tasted like algae. I'm assuming they

were trying to add high amounts of chlorine to cover the algae

problem with the local water.

I'm grateful for buying the cleaner purified water that we have, but

I'm looking into the shower and kitchen faucet filters as well now

because I want the cleanest, healthiest water.

Thanks for this wealth of information!

Rebekah

>

> Hi,

> Did you see where it says that chlorimine cannot be removed by

boiling? We

> use a filter, but this could be a problem for people who depend on

boiling

> to remove it. How do you find out if your city uses chloramine or

chlorine?

>

> Using chloramine free water cleared up the problem. The yeast is

very

> > active and the probiotic health effects have returned in full

force.

> >

> > An interesting photo of some bulk water treated with chloramine

can be

> > seen at:

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine

> >

> > Kitty hizar

> >

> > _._,_.___http://usefulhouseplants.blogspot.com/

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> http://buildingmyhouse.blogspot.com/

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Definitely get a shower/bath filter! Think about your skin being the

largest organ of your body, and that your pores are open the widest

when soaking in hot water! Try this: take a clove of garlic and put a

slice on the bottom of your feet than count the seconds before you

can taste it in your mouth. Drinking and cooking water is also

important, but really make sure you are bathing in water as clean as

you can get.

Good luck,

Beth

[Guest guest]

Definitely get a shower/bath filter! Think about your skin being the

largest organ of your body, and that your pores are open the widest

when soaking in hot water! Try this: take a clove of garlic and put a

slice on the bottom of your feet than count the seconds before you

can taste it in your mouth. Drinking and cooking water is also

important, but really make sure you are bathing in water as clean as

you can get.

Good luck,

Beth

[Guest guest]

Definitely get a shower/bath filter! Think about your skin being the

largest organ of your body, and that your pores are open the widest

when soaking in hot water! Try this: take a clove of garlic and put a

slice on the bottom of your feet than count the seconds before you

can taste it in your mouth. Drinking and cooking water is also

important, but really make sure you are bathing in water as clean as

you can get.

Good luck,

Beth

[Guest guest]

Just Amazing!

I'd say I have just gotten into organic eating as well as trying to

help us with healthier living within the past 4 years or so. It's

amazing how many things you have to look at. Water is definately a

big issue since much of our daily living depends upon it. I'm

learning so much here.

Beth,

I certainely will get a shower filter. I've been looking at them for

months now. I think I'll talk dh into buying one.

Thanks so much on your wealth of knowledge. I love learning about

all this.

Rebekah

>

>

> >

> >Did you see where it says that chlorimine cannot be removed by

boiling? We

> >use a filter, but this could be a problem for people who depend on

boiling

> >to remove it. How do you find out if your city uses chloramine or

chlorine?

>

> Yes, I've talked about this many times. You can call your water

company

> and ask them, they will be able to tell you.

>

> While it was once thought that boiling all the water was a good

preparation

> for making kombucha, it actually turns out that there are a number

of

> reasons why boiling all the water used doesn't make sense. The

(possible)

> presence of chloramines that won't be removed is one reason, the

fact that

> boiling doesn't kill all potential problem organisms, the fact that

boiling

> in fact concentrates unwanted substances in water and removes

needed

> oxygen, the fact that the time it takes to cool the sweetened tea

when it

> has all boiled is time mold can set in, and the fact that it

requires fuel

> that is a precious resource.

>

> To my knowledge, the only time boiling all the water makes sense is

when it

> is known that there is a high level of organic material and

microorganisms

> and there is no filter for the water, or, if the water is

chlorinated (not

> chloramine). However, letting the water sit overnight in a wide-

mouth

> container and stirring occasionally will remove the chlorine.

>

> Again, letting the water sit overnight or boiling it does not

remove any

> chloramine. People need to research their water and act

accordingly, which

> is why the instruction to " boil all the water " is inadequate in

today's world.

>

> --V

>

>

>

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>