Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Hi I've been peppering this group for answers to our struggles with our 14-year-old son over the last couple of days, and I want to thank everyone for some great ideas. I'm discussing with dh and we're trying to figure out how best to proceed. However I'm a little confused over something. The psychiatrist suggested our ds who has some Aspeger traits, is not ready for CBT and should try Prozac for a bit to see if it makes him more open. I also spoke yesterday with a psychologist affiliated with the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto who has a great reputation for successful CBT with kids. She's moving her office near my home. We'd much rather go the CBT route, rather than medicate, however, medicating, and psychiatrists, are covered under our provincial health plan. CBT and psychologists are not. This means we can give him Prozac and it doesn't cost a thing. Or we can use this psychologist with the good rep, (who says she'd prefer clients unmedicated) and go nearly bankrupt! She told me today it will cost several hundred dollars for the initial assessment (a couple of hours at $230 an hour) plus a 12-week treatment course that will end up costing almost $4,000. Our insurance would only pay $400 of that. And there is no guarantee it will work. My son has so far said that CBT the psychiatrist offered didn't tell him he didn't already know - he knows he has to fight the thoughts and compulsions, and how he should do it - but can't. I'm sure the likelihood of success is much higher with the expensive psychologist who seems to have an excellent track record at Sick Kids hospital. However, the cost of such a gamble is staggering. My son, when he heard how much it would be, insisted he wouldn't do it, that he'd never want us to spend that much money on it. The other thing I " m struggling with: We're starting him on insotil. If the inositol helps, or even if we went with Prozac and the Prozac helped, wouldn't my son then say 'I'm fine now, don't need CBT'? I don't see how alleviating the symptoms would make him more open to CBT. Can anyone help clear these muddy waters for me? Thanks again! kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I will not be available until Wednesday Oct 5th; please call my office at to talk to or for inquiry about the fall cleanse; fall greetings, le On Sep 28, 2011, at 4:59 AM, wrote: > Naturopathic Discussions > Messages In This Digest (5 Messages) > 1a. > Re: Phytogens - grain alcohol -response from Seroyal From: > Heiger, ND > 2a. > Re: Schizophrenia From: Deborah Caldwell > 2b. > Re: Schizophrenia From: Dr. Christie Winkelman > 3. > Re: practitioner in Chicago area From: ttstaudt > 4. > (no subject) From: susan jones > View All Topics | Create New Topic > Messages > 1a. > Re: Phytogens - grain alcohol -response from Seroyal > Posted by: " Heiger, ND " drjheiger@... drheiger > Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:26 pm (PDT) > > > Thank you Dr. Thom for the response from Seroyal. I had thought that > the distillation process removed the proteins, but when I spoke to a > Seroyal representative to make sure, that's when I was told to use the > Gemmos instead. > I look forward to hearing about the test results. > > Heiger, ND > > > 14203 Ambaum Blvd. SW > Burien, WA 98166 > > drjheiger@... > www.drheiger.com > > NOTICE: This e-mail message and its attachments are for the sole use > of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and > privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy, > forward or act in reliance on it or its attachments. If you are not > the intended recipient, please return the message to the sender and > delete the message and any attachments from your computer. 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Depending on the > type and onset, some of the treatments he uses may be helpful. He > has not worked with people with thought disorders as much as mood > disorders, but he has had such good success with autism and > neurological disorders that it makes sense to try. He certainly is > very familiar with the mental health aspects and special > considerations of working with someone with schizophrenia. He is > great with his child patients, as you know! > > Just have the parents contact the office at , and > Kristiyn will get them scheduled. > > Best, > > Christie Winkelman, N.D., M.A. > Naturopathic Physician and Counselor > http://www.insightstohealth.net > > Now accepting all major insurance plans! > > Insights to Health, LLC > Discovery through medicine > Holistic healthcare in Multnomah Village > ph: > fax: > drcwinkelman@... > > Village Offices, Suite 302 > 2929 SW Multnomah Blvd. > Portland, OR 97219 > > NOTICE: This e-mail message and its attachments are for the sole use > of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and > privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy, > forward or act in reliance on it or its attachments. If you are not > the intended recipient, please return the message to the sender and > delete the message and any attachments from your computer. 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