Re: First Church of the Healthy Life (and Discount House of Dairy Worship)

[Guest guest]

At 08:55 AM 2/17/05 -0600, you wrote:

> Fill out a huuuuuuge form, send it in, and then wait

> a while.

> http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=96109,00.html

>

> Never done it myself...maybe I oughta...but been around groups that did.

> Works better if you start from scratch rather than try to convert over a

> group with a financial history that the IRS has to take a year to pore

> over...

>

> Tom

LOL - Tom, I've had a 501c3 before. Form's not THAT big. But if

IIRC, it did take about six months to get it " official " , so you're right

about the wait.

Sorry, kids, we can't convert it to our own purposes now, I killed it many

years ago.

MFJ

If I have to be a grownup, can I at least be telekinetic too?

[Guest guest]

Great Info, Tom. Any new local distribution business ought to do this right from the get-go, just as a safety measure.

The tax breaks would really help somebody to get started too.

Feeding God's Children has a nice ring....

We could have KC do a blessing over the phone....

If others do it for Ill, we can surely do it for Good.

Shalom and God Bless.

--Terry

First Church of the Healthy Life (and Discount House of Dairy Worship)

Tinybabe asks:>already an ordained minister (or Rabbi), so how does one>start a church/temple?In our Brave New World Order of today, being a religion has nothing to dowith whether you lead a good life, love your neighbor, or have anyspirituality whatever.What is or is not a religion is now defined by the IRS (Infernal RevenueService), and you are a religion as soon as they give you their Imprimatur,called a 501©(3). Once you are a validated religious corpse, scuse, me,a religious corporation, then you are in...and you don't have to paytaxes...Here is how ya do it. Fill out a huuuuuuge form, send it in, and then waita while.http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=96109,00.htmlNever done it myself...maybe I oughta...but been around groups that did.Works better if you start from scratch rather than try to convert over agroup with a financial history that the IRS has to take a year to poreover...Tom

[Guest guest]

>Form's not THAT big. But if IIRC, it did take about

>six months to get it " official "

I seem to remember the form being about 37 pages last time I downloaded it

for somebody. Six months seem about right, but add on another nine months

if you try to convert an existing corporation with a financial history.

But considering how long we're gonna have to wait to get state governments

to stop listening to factory farm lobbyists and start listening to us, six

months may be a short wait by comparison.

Health is a spiritual value. And cleanliness is next to godliness.

Tom

[Guest guest]

Timing is everything. ROFLMAO

Thanks, Terry ;-)

Dan

> Feeding God's Children has a nice ring....

> Shalom and God Bless.

> --Terry

[Guest guest]

You sure you want all your cows to be Kosher? (ROFLMAO)

Anyone can get ordained. All it takes is a bit of cash.

K.C.

First Church of the Healthy Life (and Discount House of Dairy Worship)

Tinybabe asks:>already an ordained minister (or Rabbi), so how does one>start a church/temple?In our Brave New World Order of today, being a religion has nothing to dowith whether you lead a good life, love your neighbor, or have anyspirituality whatever.What is or is not a religion is now defined by the IRS (Infernal RevenueService), and you are a religion as soon as they give you their Imprimatur,called a 501©(3). Once you are a validated religious corpse, scuse, me,a religious corporation, then you are in...and you don't have to paytaxes...Here is how ya do it. Fill out a huuuuuuge form, send it in, and then waita while.http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=96109,00.htmlNever done it myself...maybe I oughta...but been around groups that did.Works better if you start from scratch rather than try to convert over agroup with a financial history that the IRS has to take a year to poreover...TomPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

[Guest guest]

For the love of Staint . Who in the HELL (literal meaning) does

the Government think they are? Sign some 501c3 corporation and bingo

you are ordained!

Let me check the Church Christ established is more then 2000 years

old. 6000 if you go back to . Let see our puney little

experiment is only 228 years old. I say God wins. Besides if you go

for the 501c3 now all the politics (many little blood suckers) will

have to go out the window. You think you have hassels from Burro-

crats now. Just invite them into your world by having to fill out

forms and meet thier requirements.

The Amendment I of our own US constitution states....Congress shall

make no law respecting an establishment of religion. I would say

the freaking IRS has it all wrong. The way I read it 501c3 is just

plain unconstitutional and I wil gather to worship regardless what

the IRS, UN, China or the King Gorge W. Bush has to say about it.

I am going to go have a glass of contraban to settle down now.

[Guest guest]

(ROFLMAO) What does this mean?

[Guest guest]

I understand what you are saying " IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY " .

Please understand what I am saying.

" WHAT GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIE HAS DONE ANYTHING TO SAVE; TIME; MONEY; OR

MADE LIFE EASIER? " NONE!

Don't go down that path. It is Far batter to keep the GOV out of

your hair.

My favorite line in the movie " Fiddler on the Roof " was whan the

Rabbi was asked for a blessing for the CZAR. His reply was something

to the effect " LORD bleass the CZAR and Bless Us by keeping him away! "

Any Govenment program is like a dark alley of Jackbooted thugs.

No matter what it looks like, how appealing it may be, you are going

to regret the day you went down that alley.

my sugesstion is.....

Burry that idea and bury the shovel you burried that idea with.

[Guest guest]

Besides all one has to do is look at the Church.

All churches incorporated under the 501c3 laws. Now they are gaged

and told they cannot endors any political leaders. Look at Spurgeon

and Witherspoon and other founders of good solid churches. Got to

SermonAudio.com. You will never here a preacher of today speak like

that from behind any pulpit today for fear of retalliation from the

government. It is sad.

Furthermore. If a 501c3 incorporates guess what. A tax exempt

orginization that becomes inactive of disabends. Where do the assets

go? In the cast of an orginised chruch Back to the parent chruch.

In the case of a smaller church....right back to the state. If the

BSA were ever to disband. State run aution with the proceeds going

to the general fund. you get nothing for free.

DON'T DO IT!

A Gollum said to Froto " DONT LOOK AT THE LIGHTS! "