Guest guest Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I thought the ETOH was from beets, but I could be wrong. Wouldn't distillation remove gluten and other macromolecules anyway? ND Islip NY Hello,What is your opinion on using Phytogens with people with gluten sensitivities? I was informed that Phytogens have a rye based alcohol in them and that it's better to use Gemmotherapy with gluten sensitive patients. I would prefer to use the Phytogens since they are more concentrated and have combo formulas, but don't want to run the risk of exacerbating symptoms. Thank you! Heiger, ND14203 Ambaum Blvd. SWBurien, WA 98166 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 There is a difference between gluten sensitivity and gluten intolerancequestion is whether a gluten sensitive pt can handle small amounts of gluten as would be in remediesUnfortunately, most allopaths and pts do not know thisWe have to be careful we do not let pt fears and information/knowledge of gluten in rye mixtures go to a fearbased place.Doing IgG food sensitivity testing (Genova, Metamatrix) can help see if so. Zieve, M.D. I thought the ETOH was from beets, but I could be wrong. Wouldn't distillation remove gluten and other macromolecules anyway? ND Islip NY Hello,What is your opinion on using Phytogens with people with gluten sensitivities? I was informed that Phytogens have a rye based alcohol in them and that it's better to use Gemmotherapy with gluten sensitive patients. I would prefer to use the Phytogens since they are more concentrated and have combo formulas, but don't want to run the risk of exacerbating symptoms. Thank you! Heiger, ND14203 Ambaum Blvd. SWBurien, WA 98166 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 I have asked Seroyal on numerous occasions about the alcohol and have always been told it is from beets. Did you get the info about grain alcohol directly from Seroyal? Karon-, ND Portland, OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Yes. I called Seroyal and they said that the Phytogens are made with rye alcohol, but the Gemmos, and I believe the UNDAs too, are made from beets. They suggested I use the Gemmos instead of the Phytogens. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 ,It is directly on the bottle "ethanol (grain)" under other ingredients.Igor N. Schwartzman, NDWhole Family Wellness Center Portland, Oregon www.wfwcenter.com Subject: Re: Phytogens - grain alcoholTo: Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 7:14 AM I have asked Seroyal on numerous occasions about the alcohol and have always been told it is from beets. Did you get the info about grain alcohol directly from Seroyal? Karon-, ND Portland, OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 FYI - here is an analysis of gluten in phytogens as a response from Seroyal. What is your opinion on using Phytogens with people with gluten sensitivities? I was informed that Phytogens have a rye based alcohol in them and that it's better to use Gemmotherapy with gluten sensitive patients. I would prefer to use the Phytogens since they are more concentrated and have combo formulas, but don't want to run the risk of exacerbating symptoms. Hi Dick, According to Regs, gluten result under 20ppm is considered gluten free. Attached test result is under 5ppm. Thanks. :: McCluskey |Director, Quality Assurance & Regulatory Affairs :: SEROYAL :: :: 490 Elgin Mills Road East, Richmond Hill, ON Canada L4C 0L8 :: :: tel x 2288 | fax :: ____________________________________________________________ Wholemedx, telehealth software, vice-president 9312 E. Raintree Ave, building D, sdale, AZ www.wholemedx.com Bambu Clinic - 838 SW 1st Avenue, Suite 330 - Portland, OR 97204 ph f www.bambuclinic.com Health of Business. Business of Health (HBBH) ph f www.hbbhealth.net 1 of 1 File(s) 44548.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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