Re: Q-10 yo female with epigastric pain

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Try Diagnostecs GI expanded panel. It should pinpoint the problem, allowing for a targeted treatment program.

All the Best,

Lemley, ND

Bozeman, MT

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Try Diagnostecs GI expanded panel. It should pinpoint the problem, allowing for a targeted treatment program.

All the Best,

Lemley, ND

Bozeman, MT

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Why not give her Unda 9, 24 (or 210), 228?Sounds like its emotional Tan, ND, LAcHonolulu, HISent from my iPadHello Great Minds,This 10 year old girl ptc 2 mos ago with panic attacks and generalized llq and rlq pain of aching quality, constipation, and fatigue x 2.5 mos (such that she had been out of school x 2 months). Had been to see peds gastro who rxed PPIs to no effect, and then Prozac and Clonazepam, both of which caused intense anger rxns. I I rxed BTGs, UNDA 4,43,46 and some nervous system phytogens, Replete.Her panic attacks and abdml pain subsided, energy increased in the next two weeks so she started back at school. Around that time her pain pattern changed to a epigastric pain, worse food, so we had her do a barium scan, which was negative for pathology. Complete abdml u/s also came back negative. CMP and CBC wnl with low Vit D at 17.7.She is still at school, panic attacks are still at bay, but the pain continues such that she doesn't eat at school since her whole body arches with the pain and she has to walk to help it subside. Occurs with gluten and non-gluten foods, fatty foods, food with no fat, protein and non-protein meals, and also is not restricted to after eating. I am sending her to another pediatric gastroenterologist, have recommended a food sensitivity test, and am considering testing her for celiac and trying some cholecystitis txs in case she has acalculous cholecystitis. She has a family hx of migraines so I wanted to work on liver/gb. Last tx plan incl. UNDA 1,20,258, digest-gen, digestive enzymes, magnelevures and continued btgs. No further change so far after two weeks on this tx plan.Please let me know your thoughts on the next testing options, any ideas on things I may have missed, treatment suggestions. Any input appreciated!!Christie

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Why not give her Unda 9, 24 (or 210), 228?Sounds like its emotional Tan, ND, LAcHonolulu, HISent from my iPadHello Great Minds,This 10 year old girl ptc 2 mos ago with panic attacks and generalized llq and rlq pain of aching quality, constipation, and fatigue x 2.5 mos (such that she had been out of school x 2 months). Had been to see peds gastro who rxed PPIs to no effect, and then Prozac and Clonazepam, both of which caused intense anger rxns. I I rxed BTGs, UNDA 4,43,46 and some nervous system phytogens, Replete.Her panic attacks and abdml pain subsided, energy increased in the next two weeks so she started back at school. Around that time her pain pattern changed to a epigastric pain, worse food, so we had her do a barium scan, which was negative for pathology. Complete abdml u/s also came back negative. CMP and CBC wnl with low Vit D at 17.7.She is still at school, panic attacks are still at bay, but the pain continues such that she doesn't eat at school since her whole body arches with the pain and she has to walk to help it subside. Occurs with gluten and non-gluten foods, fatty foods, food with no fat, protein and non-protein meals, and also is not restricted to after eating. I am sending her to another pediatric gastroenterologist, have recommended a food sensitivity test, and am considering testing her for celiac and trying some cholecystitis txs in case she has acalculous cholecystitis. She has a family hx of migraines so I wanted to work on liver/gb. Last tx plan incl. UNDA 1,20,258, digest-gen, digestive enzymes, magnelevures and continued btgs. No further change so far after two weeks on this tx plan.Please let me know your thoughts on the next testing options, any ideas on things I may have missed, treatment suggestions. Any input appreciated!!Christie

Christie Winkelman, N.D., M.A. Naturopathic Physician and Counselorhttp://www.insightstohealth.netNow accepting all major insurance plans! <ith_logo_4-50.gif>Insights to Health, LLCDiscovery through medicineHolistic healthcare in Multnomah Villageph: fax: drcwinkelman@...Village Offices, Suite 3022929 SW Multnomah Blvd. Portland, OR 97219NOTICE: This e-mail message and its attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy, forward or act in reliance on it or its attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please return the message to the sender and delete the message and any attachments from your computer. The unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is prohibited and may be unlawful.

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I agree, it sounds emotional to me too. Are there any issues in the family? I would also look at 219, for spasms. Cholecysititis is infrequent at her age, with the exception of when there’s a history of hemolytic anemia. Is she overweight?

Any issues at school, like bullying? Perfectionistic personality? How are her grades?

Dr. German

Medicine Naturally

Address: 2607 S Southeast Blvd , Ste B-214, Spokane WA 99223

Phone: (509)262-8145 | Fax: (509)315-2203

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To: " " < > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 7:36 PMSubject: Re: Q-10 yo female with epigastric pain

Why not give her Unda 9, 24 (or 210), 228?

Sounds like its emotional

Tan, ND, LAc

Honolulu, HI

Sent from my iPad

Hello Great Minds,

This 10 year old girl ptc 2 mos ago with panic attacks and generalized llq and rlq pain of aching quality, constipation, and fatigue x 2.5 mos (such that she had been out of school x 2 months). Had been to see peds gastro who rxed PPIs to no effect, and then Prozac and Clonazepam, both of which caused intense anger rxns. I I rxed BTGs, UNDA 4,43,46 and some nervous system phytogens, Replete.

Her panic attacks and abdml pain subsided, energy increased in the next two weeks so she started back at school. Around that time her pain pattern changed to a epigastric pain, worse food, so we had her do a barium scan, which was negative for pathology. Complete abdml u/s also came back negative. CMP and CBC wnl with low Vit D at 17.7.

She is still at school, panic attacks are still at bay, but the pain continues such that she doesn't eat at school since her whole body arches with the pain and she has to walk to help it subside. Occurs with gluten and non-gluten foods, fatty foods, food with no fat, protein and non-protein meals, and also is not restricted to after eating. I am sending her to another pediatric gastroenterologist, have recommended a food sensitivity test, and am considering testing her for celiac and trying some cholecystitis txs in case she has acalculous cholecystitis.

She has a family hx of migraines so I wanted to work on liver/gb. Last tx plan incl. UNDA 1,20,258, digest-gen, digestive enzymes, magnelevures and continued btgs. No further change so far after two weeks on this tx plan.

Please let me know your thoughts on the next testing options, any ideas on things I may have missed, treatment suggestions. Any input appreciated!!

Christie

Christie Winkelman, N.D., M.A.

Naturopathic Physician and Counselor

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I agree, it sounds emotional to me too. Are there any issues in the family? I would also look at 219, for spasms. Cholecysititis is infrequent at her age, with the exception of when there’s a history of hemolytic anemia. Is she overweight?

Any issues at school, like bullying? Perfectionistic personality? How are her grades?

Dr. German

Medicine Naturally

Address: 2607 S Southeast Blvd , Ste B-214, Spokane WA 99223

Phone: (509)262-8145 | Fax: (509)315-2203

Email: Dr@...Website: www.medicine-naturally.com

To: " " < > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 7:36 PMSubject: Re: Q-10 yo female with epigastric pain

Why not give her Unda 9, 24 (or 210), 228?

Sounds like its emotional

Tan, ND, LAc

Honolulu, HI

Sent from my iPad

Hello Great Minds,

This 10 year old girl ptc 2 mos ago with panic attacks and generalized llq and rlq pain of aching quality, constipation, and fatigue x 2.5 mos (such that she had been out of school x 2 months). Had been to see peds gastro who rxed PPIs to no effect, and then Prozac and Clonazepam, both of which caused intense anger rxns. I I rxed BTGs, UNDA 4,43,46 and some nervous system phytogens, Replete.

Her panic attacks and abdml pain subsided, energy increased in the next two weeks so she started back at school. Around that time her pain pattern changed to a epigastric pain, worse food, so we had her do a barium scan, which was negative for pathology. Complete abdml u/s also came back negative. CMP and CBC wnl with low Vit D at 17.7.

She is still at school, panic attacks are still at bay, but the pain continues such that she doesn't eat at school since her whole body arches with the pain and she has to walk to help it subside. Occurs with gluten and non-gluten foods, fatty foods, food with no fat, protein and non-protein meals, and also is not restricted to after eating. I am sending her to another pediatric gastroenterologist, have recommended a food sensitivity test, and am considering testing her for celiac and trying some cholecystitis txs in case she has acalculous cholecystitis.

She has a family hx of migraines so I wanted to work on liver/gb. Last tx plan incl. UNDA 1,20,258, digest-gen, digestive enzymes, magnelevures and continued btgs. No further change so far after two weeks on this tx plan.

Please let me know your thoughts on the next testing options, any ideas on things I may have missed, treatment suggestions. Any input appreciated!!

Christie

Christie Winkelman, N.D., M.A.

Naturopathic Physician and Counselor

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Now accepting all major insurance plans! <ith_logo_4-50.gif>Insights to Health, LLC

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Do you know any good constitutional homeopaths? Children often respond well to a well chosen oneI am working with a very good practitioner here, and see great results. She does Sankaran homeopathy Zieve MD

I agree, it sounds emotional to me too. Are there any issues in the family? I would also look at 219, for spasms. Cholecysititis is infrequent at her age, with the exception of when there’s a history of hemolytic anemia. Is she overweight?

Any issues at school, like bullying? Perfectionistic personality? How are her grades?

Dr. German

Medicine Naturally

Address: 2607 S Southeast Blvd , Ste B-214, Spokane WA 99223

Phone: (509)262-8145 | Fax: (509)315-2203

Email: Dr@...Website: www.medicine-naturally.com

To: " " < > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 7:36 PMSubject: Re: Q-10 yo female with epigastric pain

Why not give her Unda 9, 24 (or 210), 228?

Sounds like its emotional

Tan, ND, LAc

Honolulu, HI

Sent from my iPad

Hello Great Minds,

This 10 year old girl ptc 2 mos ago with panic attacks and generalized llq and rlq pain of aching quality, constipation, and fatigue x 2.5 mos (such that she had been out of school x 2 months). Had been to see peds gastro who rxed PPIs to no effect, and then Prozac and Clonazepam, both of which caused intense anger rxns. I I rxed BTGs, UNDA 4,43,46 and some nervous system phytogens, Replete.

Her panic attacks and abdml pain subsided, energy increased in the next two weeks so she started back at school. Around that time her pain pattern changed to a epigastric pain, worse food, so we had her do a barium scan, which was negative for pathology. Complete abdml u/s also came back negative. CMP and CBC wnl with low Vit D at 17.7.

She is still at school, panic attacks are still at bay, but the pain continues such that she doesn't eat at school since her whole body arches with the pain and she has to walk to help it subside. Occurs with gluten and non-gluten foods, fatty foods, food with no fat, protein and non-protein meals, and also is not restricted to after eating. I am sending her to another pediatric gastroenterologist, have recommended a food sensitivity test, and am considering testing her for celiac and trying some cholecystitis txs in case she has acalculous cholecystitis.

She has a family hx of migraines so I wanted to work on liver/gb. Last tx plan incl. UNDA 1,20,258, digest-gen, digestive enzymes, magnelevures and continued btgs. No further change so far after two weeks on this tx plan.

Please let me know your thoughts on the next testing options, any ideas on things I may have missed, treatment suggestions. Any input appreciated!!

Christie

Christie Winkelman, N.D., M.A.

Naturopathic Physician and Counselor

http://www.insightstohealth.net

Now accepting all major insurance plans! <ith_logo_4-50.gif>Insights to Health, LLC

Discovery through medicine

Holistic healthcare in Multnomah Village

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drcwinkelman@...

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2929 SW Multnomah Blvd.

Portland, OR 97219

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Do you know any good constitutional homeopaths? Children often respond well to a well chosen oneI am working with a very good practitioner here, and see great results. She does Sankaran homeopathy Zieve MD

I agree, it sounds emotional to me too. Are there any issues in the family? I would also look at 219, for spasms. Cholecysititis is infrequent at her age, with the exception of when there’s a history of hemolytic anemia. Is she overweight?

Any issues at school, like bullying? Perfectionistic personality? How are her grades?

Dr. German

Medicine Naturally

Address: 2607 S Southeast Blvd , Ste B-214, Spokane WA 99223

Phone: (509)262-8145 | Fax: (509)315-2203

Email: Dr@...Website: www.medicine-naturally.com

To: " " < > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 7:36 PMSubject: Re: Q-10 yo female with epigastric pain

Why not give her Unda 9, 24 (or 210), 228?

Sounds like its emotional

Tan, ND, LAc

Honolulu, HI

Sent from my iPad

Hello Great Minds,

This 10 year old girl ptc 2 mos ago with panic attacks and generalized llq and rlq pain of aching quality, constipation, and fatigue x 2.5 mos (such that she had been out of school x 2 months). Had been to see peds gastro who rxed PPIs to no effect, and then Prozac and Clonazepam, both of which caused intense anger rxns. I I rxed BTGs, UNDA 4,43,46 and some nervous system phytogens, Replete.

Her panic attacks and abdml pain subsided, energy increased in the next two weeks so she started back at school. Around that time her pain pattern changed to a epigastric pain, worse food, so we had her do a barium scan, which was negative for pathology. Complete abdml u/s also came back negative. CMP and CBC wnl with low Vit D at 17.7.

She is still at school, panic attacks are still at bay, but the pain continues such that she doesn't eat at school since her whole body arches with the pain and she has to walk to help it subside. Occurs with gluten and non-gluten foods, fatty foods, food with no fat, protein and non-protein meals, and also is not restricted to after eating. I am sending her to another pediatric gastroenterologist, have recommended a food sensitivity test, and am considering testing her for celiac and trying some cholecystitis txs in case she has acalculous cholecystitis.

She has a family hx of migraines so I wanted to work on liver/gb. Last tx plan incl. UNDA 1,20,258, digest-gen, digestive enzymes, magnelevures and continued btgs. No further change so far after two weeks on this tx plan.

Please let me know your thoughts on the next testing options, any ideas on things I may have missed, treatment suggestions. Any input appreciated!!

Christie

Christie Winkelman, N.D., M.A.

Naturopathic Physician and Counselor

http://www.insightstohealth.net

Now accepting all major insurance plans! <ith_logo_4-50.gif>Insights to Health, LLC

Discovery through medicine

Holistic healthcare in Multnomah Village

ph:

fax:

drcwinkelman@...

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2929 SW Multnomah Blvd.

Portland, OR 97219

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Doug Brown, FNP is in Portland and practices Sankaran homeopathy. He is a very nice person and he also teaches.

Dr. German

Medicine Naturally

Address: 2607 S Southeast Blvd , Ste B-214, Spokane WA 99223

Phone: (509)262-8145 | Fax: (509)315-2203

Email: Dr@...Website: www.medicine-naturally.com

To: Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 8:37 AMSubject: Re: Q-10 yo female with epigastric pain

Do you know any good constitutional homeopaths? Children often respond well to a well chosen one

I am working with a very good practitioner here, and see great results. She does Sankaran homeopathy

Zieve MD

I agree, it sounds emotional to me too. Are there any issues in the family? I would also look at 219, for spasms. Cholecysititis is infrequent at her age, with the exception of when there’s a history of hemolytic anemia. Is she overweight?

Any issues at school, like bullying? Perfectionistic personality? How are her grades?

Dr. German

Medicine Naturally

Address: 2607 S Southeast Blvd , Ste B-214, Spokane WA 99223

Phone: (509)262-8145 | Fax: (509)315-2203

Email: Dr@...Website: www.medicine-naturally.com

To: " " < > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 7:36 PMSubject: Re: Q-10 yo female with epigastric pain

Why not give her Unda 9, 24 (or 210), 228?

Sounds like its emotional

Tan, ND, LAc

Honolulu, HI

Sent from my iPad

Hello Great Minds, This 10 year old girl ptc 2 mos ago with panic attacks and generalized llq and rlq pain of aching quality, constipation, and fatigue x 2.5 mos (such that she had been out of school x 2 months). Had been to see peds gastro who rxed PPIs to no effect, and then Prozac and Clonazepam, both of which caused intense anger rxns. I I rxed BTGs, UNDA 4,43,46 and some nervous system phytogens, Replete.

Her panic attacks and abdml pain subsided, energy increased in the next two weeks so she started back at school. Around that time her pain pattern changed to a epigastric pain, worse food, so we had her do a barium scan, which was negative for pathology. Complete abdml u/s also came back negative. CMP and CBC wnl with low Vit D at 17.7.

She is still at school, panic attacks are still at bay, but the pain continues such that she doesn't eat at school since her whole body arches with the pain and she has to walk to help it subside. Occurs with gluten and non-gluten foods, fatty foods, food with no fat, protein and non-protein meals, and also is not restricted to after eating. I am sending her to another pediatric gastroenterologist, have recommended a food sensitivity test, and am considering testing her for celiac and trying some cholecystitis txs in case she has acalculous cholecystitis.

She has a family hx of migraines so I wanted to work on liver/gb. Last tx plan incl. UNDA 1,20,258, digest-gen, digestive enzymes, magnelevures and continued btgs. No further change so far after two weeks on this tx plan.

Please let me know your thoughts on the next testing options, any ideas on things I may have missed, treatment suggestions. Any input appreciated!!

Christie

Christie Winkelman, N.D., M.A.

Naturopathic Physician and Counselor

http://www.insightstohealth.net

Now accepting all major insurance plans! <ith_logo_4-50.gif>Insights to Health, LLC

Discovery through medicine

Holistic healthcare in Multnomah Village

ph:

fax:

drcwinkelman@...

Village Offices, Suite 302

2929 SW Multnomah Blvd.

Portland, OR 97219

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Hey Christie, consider treating CNS with #24 and companion numbers. I would bet that her digestion is shutting down due to the sympathtic nervous system even as her panic attacks improve. Treat her stress. Dr. I Buttler Naturopathic PhysicianNorthwest Natural Medicine, LLC2305 SE Washington St., Suite 104Milwaukie, Oregon 97222www.nwnaturalmedicine.comThis e-mail message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any

dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and destroy the original and any copies of this e-mail. To: Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 6:49 PM Subject: Q-10 yo female with epigastric pain Hello Great Minds,This 10 year old girl ptc 2

mos ago with panic attacks and generalized llq and rlq pain of aching quality, constipation, and fatigue x 2.5 mos (such that she had been out of school x 2 months). Had been to see peds gastro who rxed PPIs to no effect, and then Prozac and Clonazepam, both of which caused intense anger rxns. I I rxed BTGs, UNDA 4,43,46 and some nervous system phytogens, Replete.Her panic attacks and abdml pain subsided, energy increased in the next two weeks so she started back at school. Around that time her pain pattern changed to a epigastric pain, worse food, so we had her do a barium scan, which was negative for pathology. Complete abdml u/s also came back negative. CMP and CBC wnl with low Vit D at 17.7.She is still at school, panic attacks are still at bay, but the pain continues such that she doesn't eat at school since her whole body arches with the pain and she has to walk to help it subside.

Occurs with gluten and non-gluten foods, fatty foods, food with no fat, protein and non-protein meals, and also is not restricted to after eating. I am sending her to another pediatric gastroenterologist, have recommended a food sensitivity test, and am considering testing her for celiac and trying some cholecystitis txs in case she has acalculous cholecystitis. She has a family hx of migraines so I wanted to work on liver/gb. Last tx plan incl. UNDA 1,20,258, digest-gen, digestive enzymes, magnelevures and continued btgs. No further change so far after two weeks on this tx plan.Please let me know your thoughts on the next testing options, any ideas on things I may have missed, treatment suggestions. Any input appreciated!!Christie

Christie Winkelman, N.D., M.A. Naturopathic Physician and Counselorhttp://www.insightstohealth.netNow accepting all major insurance

plans! Insights to Health, LLCDiscovery through medicineHolistic healthcare in Multnomah Villageph: fax: drcwinkelman@...Village Offices, Suite 3022929 SW Multnomah Blvd. Portland, OR 97219NOTICE: This e-mail message and its attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy, forward or act in reliance on it or its attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please return the message to the sender and delete the message and any attachments from your computer. The unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including

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