Re: tetanus shot

June 3, 2009

I'm of the mindset a tetanus shot is pointless and irrelevant, and I suppose

that would make is unnecessary. Just in case you feel like giving her

information for her to re-consider, here's my best shot.....so to

speak......:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clifford.g.miller/risks.html#A_Pointless_Vaccinatio\

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http://www.doctoryourself.com/vaccination.html - unless she's letting her

daughter run barefoot through horse poop, tetanus is pointless; it has

nothing to do with rusty nails, etc. The thinking is that tetanus is no

longer an issue, like it once was, because the majority of people don't come

in contact with daily horse pooh - tetanus is a bacteria that thrives in

horse intestines.

Do they have a lifestyle that makes her fear being exposed to tetanus? It's

everywhere, btw - the old, rusty nail thing is a myth.....

HTH.

Sharon, NH

> She is anti vaccines except for the tetanus vaccine. She isn't going to

> be talked out of it, so now I am simply trying to help her find a plain old

>

> tetanus shot.

>

> Any information would be appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

> Cristy

>

June 4, 2009

On Thursday 04 June 2009 01:31:11 pm trad-foods-MN wrote:

> unless she's letting her

> daughter run barefoot through horse poop, tetanus is pointless; it has

> nothing to do with rusty nails, etc. Â The thinking is that tetanus is no

> longer an issue, like it once was, because the majority of people don't

> come in contact with daily horse pooh - tetanus is a bacteria that thrives

> in horse intestines.

>

> Do they have a lifestyle that makes her fear being exposed to tetanus?

> Â It's everywhere, btw - the old, rusty nail thing is a myth.....

Here's my experience with the threat of tetanus and the shot. My then 9yr old

son got cut on his finger by his brother using some rusty hedgetrimmers. He

needed several stitches. The doctor wanted to give him a tetanus shot and I

might have let him if it had only been tetanus, but it wasn't so I didn't.

Now, here's the " kicker " : we have animals. At that time we had horses,

llamas, a dog, cats, guineas, and rabbits (and since then we've added chickens

and goats). Instead of the shot, I made sure he drank plenty of kefir and

kombucha, probably gave him some echinacea and severely limited his sugar

intake. He did not get tetanus and he's now 11, almost 12.

God bless,

, the lady in purple, in Oster MN

Isaiah 26:3

" The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction,

is the first and only object of good government. "

--- Jefferson

June 5, 2009

I like what has been said here, especially augmenting the immune system with

super-foods, vitamins C, A, D and E, and antibacterial herbs such as garlic.

I'm not a fan of the tetanus toxoid vaccine at all, it's a dirty vaccine and

there are more bad reactions to it than most other vaccines. I've avoided the

vaccine for decades and I think that 99.9%of the time it's given for

insurance/lawsuit reasons, NOT for good health. Doctors are forced to do many

things for legal reasons! I'm sure that in these strange times PARENTS could be

sued for not blasting their puncture-wound child with the vaccine!

My main prevention, having treated thousands of deep puncture wounds is an

immediate flush with RUBBING ALCOHOL. While this does burn for a few seconds

(bad!) and it does mortify the open flesh, NOTHING stops secondary infection as

well (particularly true for animal bites!). Following that, HYDROGEN PEROXIDE

into the wound and soaking in EPSOM SALTS and keeping the wound open and

draining for several days is essential. Bandaging a puncture wound is big time

bad news!

As a vet, I have to defend what was said about horses. Their intestine, like any

other intestine, does NOT cause C. tetani to thrive at all, No Clostridium

organism, nor any other anaerobe, can grow where there is oxygen. However, the

horse does ingest C. tetani SPORES from the soil which can pass through via the

manure. Horses, unlike ruminants, have biting teeth and are often on abused

pastures and therefore graze closer to the ground, thus it's theoretically

possible that they might get more soil-borne spores. So, there are just as many

city folks that get the rare disease of tetanus living 20 miles from the closest

horse as there are farmers who get it.

While I wouldn't wish the disease on anyone, nobody, except in 3rd world

countries, dies of tetanus anymore. In the extremely rare case of getting the

disease, the bacteria responds quite well to common antibiotics and the patient

recovers.

Will Winter

June 5, 2009

Will thank you for all of your great information. I always appreciate

when you make comments.

June 5, 2009

It might be a long shot, but I got a plain tetanus shot four years ago when

I went to a " Country Doctor " named Dr. Rutten near Long Prairie, MN. She

is a fabulous doctor who would be able to tell you for sure whether or not the

single vaccine is available for kids. She hardly charges anything for her

office visits, but she doesn't take any insurance.

P.S. We went ahead and let our doctor vaccinate our two-year-old daughter with

the DTP vaccine last week because she is spending so much time on farms.

Perhaps it was a mistake, but at least she did not have any negative reaction

that we could discern. She watched with interest as the nurses pushed the

needle into her thigh. She said " ouch! " but didn't cry at all. I think good

nutrition gives kids a higher tolerance for pain. If anyone does choose to

vaccinate, I recommend plenty of probiotic foods and fermented cod liver oil to

help your child eliminate the toxins in the vaccine. We are not planning to

vaccinate her against anything else.

June 5, 2009