Re: Looking for evidence of effectiveness.

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir;

I am not a scientific minded or educated in the medical field ,but I

do not have to be to know that this type of therapy works ! Rife

therapy is not just a machine that puts out frequencies ,it is a

frame of mind ,a life style if you can call it that .It is the

knowledge that there is another answer to helping our children and fellow

humans(and pets).Alternative healing is a frame of mind that you have

to be brought back into the awareness of, since we are subtly

brainwashed into thinking that drug companies and doctors are the only

way to heal our bodies. There are plenty of PHD's and Medical DR.'s out

there who have more than enough data to convince anyone who has a open

mind to it. I would probably not have my Daughter here today if it

wasn't for Doctors and scientists in Europe who freely gave me information

and their knowledge to help treat her.Not to mention the truly, God

blessed DR. right here in America who did what doctors are supposed to

do ,find a better way to heal even if they are punished for it by there

peers! I'm sure someone will e-mail you back with a statement that may

give you the answers you seek.The best thing I can tell you is my

experience. My daughter is doing better than any child in the groups

I belong to on the internet since using this therapy and we use it

combined with chinese herbalism,and wholistic nutrition .I do not take

lightly what I'm going to tell you .I feel blessed that I have my child

since many other mothers cannot say that statement .You see my Daughter

has a brainstem tumor,and while so many other children who have this

horrible nightmare , that you don't wake up from monster,as we in the

brain tumor groups call it- are dying,or are already dead,the ones that are

alive have balance,deafness (from radiation)loss of physical and mental

functions,( the brainstem controls all of these )including heart and

breathing ,we are not even mentioning Pain or emotionall problems yet

either.My child is doing just fine ,so fine that you won't even know that

she has a tumor, not on any chemical prescribed medicines either . I'm

betting that it will be gone ,it has already decreased 1 centimeter in all

directions and changed in consistency and that was 6 months ago- DOCUMENTED

with MRI'S and read by the best neurosurgeons here and in another State!

They can be e-mailed if your computer can handle the size of the

films if you need proof. When a mother who has been told take her child

home and enjoy the time you have because there is no cure ,and to now

have this result .Who needs Data Anymore ? Sincerly ,Gail Strano,mother of

Corrine, Dx with a Intercervical Medullar Tumor ,No Radiation ,No Chemo

..Just Rife ,Chinese herbs,wholistic Nutriton,Faith and Love.

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>To: Rife

>Subject: Looking for evidence of effectiveness.

>Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 01:20:00 -0000

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sir;

I am not a scientific minded or educated in the medical field ,but I

do not have to be to know that this type of therapy works ! Rife

therapy is not just a machine that puts out frequencies ,it is a

frame of mind ,a life style if you can call it that .It is the

knowledge that there is another answer to helping our children and fellow

humans(and pets).Alternative healing is a frame of mind that you have

to be brought back into the awareness of, since we are subtly

brainwashed into thinking that drug companies and doctors are the only

way to heal our bodies. There are plenty of PHD's and Medical DR.'s out

there who have more than enough data to convince anyone who has a open

mind to it. I would probably not have my Daughter here today if it

wasn't for Doctors and scientists in Europe who freely gave me information

and their knowledge to help treat her.Not to mention the truly, God

blessed DR. right here in America who did what doctors are supposed to

do ,find a better way to heal even if they are punished for it by there

peers! I'm sure someone will e-mail you back with a statement that may

give you the answers you seek.The best thing I can tell you is my

experience. My daughter is doing better than any child in the groups

I belong to on the internet since using this therapy and we use it

combined with chinese herbalism,and wholistic nutrition .I do not take

lightly what I'm going to tell you .I feel blessed that I have my child

since many other mothers cannot say that statement .You see my Daughter

has a brainstem tumor,and while so many other children who have this

horrible nightmare , that you don't wake up from monster,as we in the

brain tumor groups call it- are dying,or are already dead,the ones that are

alive have balance,deafness (from radiation)loss of physical and mental

functions,( the brainstem controls all of these )including heart and

breathing ,we are not even mentioning Pain or emotionall problems yet

either.My child is doing just fine ,so fine that you won't even know that

she has a tumor, not on any chemical prescribed medicines either . I'm

betting that it will be gone ,it has already decreased 1 centimeter in all

directions and changed in consistency and that was 6 months ago- DOCUMENTED

with MRI'S and read by the best neurosurgeons here and in another State!

They can be e-mailed if your computer can handle the size of the

films if you need proof. When a mother who has been told take her child

home and enjoy the time you have because there is no cure ,and to now

have this result .Who needs Data Anymore ? Sincerly ,Gail Strano,mother of

Corrine, Dx with a Intercervical Medullar Tumor ,No Radiation ,No Chemo

..Just Rife ,Chinese herbs,wholistic Nutriton,Faith and Love.

>

>Reply-To: Rife

>To: Rife

>Subject: Looking for evidence of effectiveness.

>Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 01:20:00 -0000

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Thank you for the great reply to this gentleman ,You hit the nail

right on the head , In my case One operation ,7 days in a hospital

over$ 100,000 .Now add on all the medications,doctor visits

,physiatrists',antidepressants ,Repeated surgery's,chemo,radiation on so

on .The only answers anyone in conventioal medical fields ever had for

me with my daughter were these.Multiply that by Thousands ,millions of

people ! Is there anyone who really believes that money is not at

the root of the inhumanity of this system??? At least the money I

spend now I know goes into healing my child ,not into the pockets of

people who refuse to take the life and health of a person over money.

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>Reply-To: Rife

>To: <Rife >

>Subject: Re: Looking for evidence of effectiveness.

>Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 20:56:48 -0500

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for the great reply to this gentleman ,You hit the nail

right on the head , In my case One operation ,7 days in a hospital

over$ 100,000 .Now add on all the medications,doctor visits

,physiatrists',antidepressants ,Repeated surgery's,chemo,radiation on so

on .The only answers anyone in conventioal medical fields ever had for

me with my daughter were these.Multiply that by Thousands ,millions of

people ! Is there anyone who really believes that money is not at

the root of the inhumanity of this system??? At least the money I

spend now I know goes into healing my child ,not into the pockets of

people who refuse to take the life and health of a person over money.

>

>Reply-To: Rife

>To: <Rife >

>Subject: Re: Looking for evidence of effectiveness.

>Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 20:56:48 -0500

>

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[Guest guest]

In my opinion, too..

Is that all too many people are looking for a magic pill, just like

antibiotics were maybe 45 years ago - one shot, and wow, within hours

one was all better. As we got older the effects slowed down. Slowed

down a lot in many cases, and then sometimes the antibiotics stopped

working as the " bad " bugs learned how to deal with them.

I am personally convinced that the Rife Effect does disturb the various

pathogens, and then helps the body's immune system to come clean up.

When we see people exposing themselves to the plasma lamps, and

sometimes having herx reactions in the next day or so, but also feeling

relief from whatever they were complaining of, that is a result. (And

nutritional support is also needed - that's too much work for some.)

Unfortunately such a result is scientifically near-worthless. And in

this day of US federal agencies raiding and suing " to protect the

public " , who is prepared to publish in that atmosphere, even if they had

data?

Milbank , MD, stated in a letter about his 1934 Clinic in La

Jolla, California, that his records were complete but rudimentary, and

that as such they could not be given to any scientific body for

examination. I note that he later did an extensive cataract clinic in

Pasadena, and wrote of Very Good results from that clinic (detailed

records never found.) (Emphasis mine)

Dave

jophil50 wrote:

> Do any of you have any notes or is there a published trial which

> substantiates Rife's MOR theory. It seems to me that this modality

> will remain in the realm of fringe/alternative/ folklore medicine

> until someone conducts a trial or study which is acceptable to Big

> Med. or the wider scientific community.

... snip ...

[Guest guest]

In my opinion, too..

Is that all too many people are looking for a magic pill, just like

antibiotics were maybe 45 years ago - one shot, and wow, within hours

one was all better. As we got older the effects slowed down. Slowed

down a lot in many cases, and then sometimes the antibiotics stopped

working as the " bad " bugs learned how to deal with them.

I am personally convinced that the Rife Effect does disturb the various

pathogens, and then helps the body's immune system to come clean up.

When we see people exposing themselves to the plasma lamps, and

sometimes having herx reactions in the next day or so, but also feeling

relief from whatever they were complaining of, that is a result. (And

nutritional support is also needed - that's too much work for some.)

Unfortunately such a result is scientifically near-worthless. And in

this day of US federal agencies raiding and suing " to protect the

public " , who is prepared to publish in that atmosphere, even if they had

data?

Milbank , MD, stated in a letter about his 1934 Clinic in La

Jolla, California, that his records were complete but rudimentary, and

that as such they could not be given to any scientific body for

examination. I note that he later did an extensive cataract clinic in

Pasadena, and wrote of Very Good results from that clinic (detailed

records never found.) (Emphasis mine)

Dave

jophil50 wrote:

> Do any of you have any notes or is there a published trial which

> substantiates Rife's MOR theory. It seems to me that this modality

> will remain in the realm of fringe/alternative/ folklore medicine

> until someone conducts a trial or study which is acceptable to Big

> Med. or the wider scientific community.

... snip ...

[Guest guest]

Since put it so eloquently, I'll just offer a quick thought

and a link. Follow the 3 links on this webpage, they are all pretty

quick reads.

Big Pharma is in the business of DISEASE, and have zero interest

in HEALTH. I believe BOB BECK said something like " a cured patient

is a lost patient. " My apologies, something like this. The point is

that there is very little money in curing patients for the Medical

Mafia and Pharmaceutical Cartels. Big Pharma is BIG $$. You probably

won't see them funding any alternative approaches that involve

electricity/etc. any time soon that actually use.....God

forbide....home-made or low cost devices that they could use in

the leisure of their own home. No way, Big Pharma and the Medical Mafia

can't have people feeling healthy and resolving sickness. Nope.

No money in that for them. Just follow the money trail and that will

answer most if not all of the questions you posted here.

Hmmm, I thought Rife's cancer patients experiment (CURE) in Southern

California in the 30's(?) was pretty convincing.

[Guest guest]

Since put it so eloquently, I'll just offer a quick thought

and a link. Follow the 3 links on this webpage, they are all pretty

quick reads.

Big Pharma is in the business of DISEASE, and have zero interest

in HEALTH. I believe BOB BECK said something like " a cured patient

is a lost patient. " My apologies, something like this. The point is

that there is very little money in curing patients for the Medical

Mafia and Pharmaceutical Cartels. Big Pharma is BIG $$. You probably

won't see them funding any alternative approaches that involve

electricity/etc. any time soon that actually use.....God

forbide....home-made or low cost devices that they could use in

the leisure of their own home. No way, Big Pharma and the Medical Mafia

can't have people feeling healthy and resolving sickness. Nope.

No money in that for them. Just follow the money trail and that will

answer most if not all of the questions you posted here.

Hmmm, I thought Rife's cancer patients experiment (CURE) in Southern

California in the 30's(?) was pretty convincing.

[Guest guest]

My apologies, the website I referred to is here:

http://www.thecureforalldisease.com/

Just follow the 3 links if you have a little time.

I particularly found the article by MR. Bolen concerning

electricity interesting.

[Guest guest]

My apologies, the website I referred to is here:

http://www.thecureforalldisease.com/

Just follow the 3 links if you have a little time.

I particularly found the article by MR. Bolen concerning

electricity interesting.

[Guest guest]

Kuki, I have had triple bypass surgery , four angio-plastis , and have

pacemaker leads( no pacemaker) attached to my heart. I use my rife

machine weekly for Lyme disease with no adverse results

Skip

[Guest guest]

Using my own homebrew logic, clinical trials of Rife equipment are

premature at this time. While I spend a great deal of my own time

and

money in my own research, I do not believe that the basic physics of

electrotherapy has been adequately defined. MORs remain at the

hypothesis stage, not at the proof stage. Not all equipment seems to

work equally for some obscure reason. Even Rife could not

successfully duplicate his own results in the equipment manufactured

by Beam Ray Co.

A success rate of 95% would not satisfy my own criteria. Experiments

must show 100% repeatability to indicate proof of any hypothesis.

Even then it does not prove the hypothesis but rather demonstrates

that it only COULD BE true. If the speed of light was measured the

same 99% of the time, it could not be considered a constant.

Conversely the same can be said by the medical profession. The

concept of carcinogens for example is clearly non-sense. In order to

be a cancer causing agent, it must cause cancer 100% of the time, not

30% to 50% over 10 to 20 years. Carbon monoxide on the other hand

causes death 100% of the time at levels over a specific percentage

and

exposure.

I get a kick out of alleged consumer protection groups such as

QuackWatch. They ridicule us as " medical practitioners armed with

soldering guns " . How ironic that MRI, CAT, and X-Ray equipment was

discovered and perfected, not by medical folks, but by electrical

engineers and our cousins.

When Marconi discovered the spark gap transmitter/receiver there was

not a cry for home radios. The brothers first flew in 1903.

But it was not until 1909, when they flew their aircraft around

Manhattan Island that the magnitude of their discovery was truly

acknowledged by both the government and public. The FCC did not

demand trials of the Marconi radio, nor did the FAA demand the

brothers prove their flying machine safe. Those agencies did not

exist until after those inventions were reality and commonplace.

Medicine has existed for thousands of years, but is slow to accept

change. Previous technologies are always replaced in time by newer

technologies.

Tremendous work yet remains in the area of electrotherapy research.

The more I learn, the more aware I am of how little I actually know.

Experimenters will continue to experiment and eventually the answers

will eventually come. In the meantime I do not invest in

pharmaceutical companies. It is highly likely they will go the way

of

the buggy whip and steam engine locomotive.

In the meanwhile it is a waste of effort to whine about Big Medicine

until we find a better solution to the problem. However I agree that

government needs to butt out of medicine in its entirety. My own

life

was spared in pre-FDA days when I was given an experimental and

untested drug that saved my life. Had I lived after the FDA I would

have never received it. As usual government is part of the problem,

not part of the solution.

Al