Ken/Need advice on my new job

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In a message dated 7/14/00 5:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kturbin@... writes:

<< However, I don't want to lie any further, but do want to stay with the

program. trouble is that I have periods of inactivity & got off to a slow but

promising start. If I explain that I am disabled, I am pretty certain I will

be kept on, but explaining my disability is like writing a book & I really

don't want to do that. But My performance will probably be productive but

inconsistent, & I don't want to look bad for that, or regarded lame. >>

Ken::

Sounds like you have lucked into a good job for you. You know, of course,

that the company cannot fire your for your disability. Can you get a feel

for what your boss is like when it comes to disabilities? That might help

you determine whether or not to let him know you are disabled from pain. You

could outline your disability to him - not a long story, as well as give a

brief history of your success before your disability kicked in. If you are

as good as the boss thinks you are [and he accepted your excuse of flu], I

really think he will accept your disability and that there will be times when

you cannot work. Of course, you will need to explain to him what happens

when your pain kicks in and generally how long it lasts. And, from what I

know about you, you could still do some work when you are under the weather.

One other question: Do you push yourself too hard with the new job or do you

pace yourself so that you don't overdo it and wind up in one of your pain

cycles?

{{{And Pain-Free Wishes}}}

Carol

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At 11:03 PM 7/14/00 -0400, msvvarrior@... wisely said:

>Do you push yourself too hard with the new job or do you

>pace yourself so that you don't overdo it and wind up in one of your pain

>cycles?

Carol,

here's where there is a problem. what I can do & if I can do

anything at all varies daily & is not really predictable. I need some

continuity week to week for seeing people by appointment. However,

telephone calls can be made at any time on regular work days. I can

probably manage a certain amount of follow-through, but sometimes not.

However I use my " up " time very efficiently and can probably keep pace with

others or better most of the time.

It's not really necessary that the employer knows my schedule.

There just needs to be a continuing commitment to follow through, and it is

very promising to do so.

I'm inclined to explain my situation to the company president, who

is directly managing the program, but I am tired of long sad stories. It is

hard for anyone to understand my situation, and I am not eager to go there

anymore.

Ken

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At 11:03 PM 7/14/00 -0400, msvvarrior@... wisely said:

>You know, of course,

>that the company cannot fire your for your disability. Can you get a feel

>for what your boss is like when it comes to disabilities?

I was fired from an agency I worked for 11 years for disability, &

saw no point in arguing it because I just couldn't work regularly anymore &

had tried all kinds of adjusted schedules. It was the formal defeat of my

professional working life. There was nothing to win or gain.

I have my rehab Counseling certification, & if I could manage any

real consistency would prefer to remain a counselor. But I don't see this

as practical or responsible.

The work at issue is commission sales. It is very lucrative, and

the person running the program I am in is the company president. It is

evidently a pilot program. He appears to be very bright & open, and I

suspect he would not have too much difficulty with recognizing I am

severely disabled, yet capable of achieving. Perhaps the basic issue is

these are contradictory & I have more difficulty accepting how I am & how I

must consequently " run " my life than he might.

Ken

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Ken and all,

If the Pres. really has confidence in you, then why not level with him and go for a "work at home" setup.

That might solve several problems and make it a lot easier on your body.

If you need to meet with a client, you may have enough steam to go to the appropriate office for an hour or two.... however, aside from a possible initial "getting to know you, your company and its needs" meeting, you should be able to convince almost all who suggest additional meetings, that it is best done on the web so that they can get a true feeling from the web site development.

In this day and age, KISS may be the best solution.

Best of luck to you Ken, and thanks for all of your input and help to those of us on the list.

Temp

In SBA

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-----Original Message-----From: Turbin Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 5:09 PMTo: chronic_painegroupsSubject: Re: Ken/Need advice on my new jobAt 11:03 PM 7/14/00 -0400, msvvarrior@... wisely said:>You know, of course,>that the company cannot fire your for your disability. Can you get a feel>for what your boss is like when it comes to disabilities? I was fired from an agency I worked for 11 years for disability, & saw no point in arguing it because I just couldn't work regularly anymore & had tried all kinds of adjusted schedules. It was the formal defeat of my professional working life. There was nothing to win or gain. I have my rehab Counseling certification, & if I could manage any real consistency would prefer to remain a counselor. But I don't see this as practical or responsible. The work at issue is commission sales. It is very lucrative, and the person running the program I am in is the company president. It is evidently a pilot program. He appears to be very bright & open, and I suspect he would not have too much difficulty with recognizing I am severely disabled, yet capable of achieving. Perhaps the basic issue is these are contradictory & I have more difficulty accepting how I am & how I must consequently "run" my life than he might. KenKnow someone who could profit from our list? Send our direct sign-up URL: /subscribe.cgi/chronic_pain or write us at: chronic_pain-listowneregroupsManage your subscription with several special email addresses:chronic_pain-owneregroups - Sends email to the list owners chronic_pain-subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email chronic_pain-unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list chronic_pain-normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal chronic_pain-digestegroups - Switch your subscription to digest

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Ken and all,

If the Pres. really has confidence in you, then why not level with him and go for a "work at home" setup.

That might solve several problems and make it a lot easier on your body.

If you need to meet with a client, you may have enough steam to go to the appropriate office for an hour or two.... however, aside from a possible initial "getting to know you, your company and its needs" meeting, you should be able to convince almost all who suggest additional meetings, that it is best done on the web so that they can get a true feeling from the web site development.

In this day and age, KISS may be the best solution.

Best of luck to you Ken, and thanks for all of your input and help to those of us on the list.

Temp

In SBA

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-----Original Message-----From: Turbin Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2000 5:09 PMTo: chronic_painegroupsSubject: Re: Ken/Need advice on my new jobAt 11:03 PM 7/14/00 -0400, msvvarrior@... wisely said:>You know, of course,>that the company cannot fire your for your disability. Can you get a feel>for what your boss is like when it comes to disabilities? I was fired from an agency I worked for 11 years for disability, & saw no point in arguing it because I just couldn't work regularly anymore & had tried all kinds of adjusted schedules. It was the formal defeat of my professional working life. There was nothing to win or gain. I have my rehab Counseling certification, & if I could manage any real consistency would prefer to remain a counselor. But I don't see this as practical or responsible. The work at issue is commission sales. It is very lucrative, and the person running the program I am in is the company president. It is evidently a pilot program. He appears to be very bright & open, and I suspect he would not have too much difficulty with recognizing I am severely disabled, yet capable of achieving. Perhaps the basic issue is these are contradictory & I have more difficulty accepting how I am & how I must consequently "run" my life than he might. KenKnow someone who could profit from our list? Send our direct sign-up URL: /subscribe.cgi/chronic_pain or write us at: chronic_pain-listowneregroupsManage your subscription with several special email addresses:chronic_pain-owneregroups - Sends email to the list owners chronic_pain-subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email chronic_pain-unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list chronic_pain-normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal chronic_pain-digestegroups - Switch your subscription to digest

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In a message dated 7/15/00 8:03:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kturbin@... writes:

<< I suspect he would not have too much difficulty with recognizing I am

severely disabled, yet capable of achieving. Perhaps the basic issue is these

are contradictory & I have more difficulty accepting how I am & how I must

consequently " run " my life than he might. >>

Ken:

I think you hit the nail on the head with your recognition that it is

something you have to accept in yourself first. Hopefully, you will have

this resolved soon; and, with enough experience and success in your new job,

your boss will be understanding about your disabilities. My thoughts and

prayers are with you as you go through this struggle.

Carol

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In a message dated 7/15/00 8:03:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kturbin@... writes:

<< I suspect he would not have too much difficulty with recognizing I am

severely disabled, yet capable of achieving. Perhaps the basic issue is these

are contradictory & I have more difficulty accepting how I am & how I must

consequently " run " my life than he might. >>

Ken:

I think you hit the nail on the head with your recognition that it is

something you have to accept in yourself first. Hopefully, you will have

this resolved soon; and, with enough experience and success in your new job,

your boss will be understanding about your disabilities. My thoughts and

prayers are with you as you go through this struggle.

Carol

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In a message dated 7/15/00 7:33:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kturbin@... writes:

<< I'm inclined to explain my situation to the company president, who is

directly managing the program, but I am tired of long sad stories. It is hard

for anyone to understand my situation, and I am not eager to go there anymore.

>

Ken:

Your explanation does not have to be a long, sad, detailed story. Just

outline the situation to him; and, just in case, you might want to have a lot

of literature [or a doctor's letter of evaluation] with you if he asks a lot

of questions. Obviously, you would answer his questions before giving him

the printed material; but make it short and positive based on your previous

and current work history and experience.

Carol

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In a message dated 7/15/00 7:33:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kturbin@... writes:

<< I'm inclined to explain my situation to the company president, who is

directly managing the program, but I am tired of long sad stories. It is hard

for anyone to understand my situation, and I am not eager to go there anymore.

>

Ken:

Your explanation does not have to be a long, sad, detailed story. Just

outline the situation to him; and, just in case, you might want to have a lot

of literature [or a doctor's letter of evaluation] with you if he asks a lot

of questions. Obviously, you would answer his questions before giving him

the printed material; but make it short and positive based on your previous

and current work history and experience.

Carol

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Thanks Carole, this is something I may never resolve. But I am

able to go forward anyway. The work is at home, and I decided to send the

boss an email about talking about it on the phone (He is in Boston & me

Nevada). I have more confidence after all the helpful feedback that it

will simply be accepted. It may seem like a small thing, but it took a lot

to think through, and raised a lot of emotion for me. I have a track record

of high achievement after the onset of the disability, and even it's

becoming severe. I can take confidence in that. And prayers are always welcome!

Thanks for your (and others') concern.

Ken

At 03:53 PM 7/16/00 -0400, msvvarrior@... wisely said:

>In a message dated 7/15/00 8:03:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>kturbin@... writes:

>

><< I suspect he would not have too much difficulty with recognizing I am

>severely disabled, yet capable of achieving. Perhaps the basic issue is these

>are contradictory & I have more difficulty accepting how I am & how I must

>consequently " run " my life than he might. >>

>

>Ken:

>

>I think you hit the nail on the head with your recognition that it is

>something you have to accept in yourself first. Hopefully, you will have

>this resolved soon; and, with enough experience and success in your new job,

>your boss will be understanding about your disabilities. My thoughts and

>prayers are with you as you go through this struggle.

>

>Carol

>

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Hi Ken,

GOOD LUCK! with your decision. I agree with others on the list, this

is the best solution.

Hopefully, you won't need to revert to the ADA laws, but they do require

employers to provide reasonable accommodations.

Hope everything works out well for you.

JoAnn