Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Greetings Oxygen Listers! Funny how I've recently re-joined the oxy-list, having been off the list for awhile, to talk about oxygen, and I haven't gotten around to it yet! My apologies to those interested in oxygen rather than mud! I've been doing a series of rather informal tests ( informal because the measuring equipment I have is not sophisticated enough! ) with adding hydrogen peroxide to silver. I understand that the general consesus among oxygen enthusiasts is that more stable forms of oxygen are preffered for use in the body than hydogen peroxide, but I ask that you bear with me, as it is just the powerful and " explosive " nature of H2O2 that I am trying to harness. I'm wondering if there are any chemistry enthusiasts on the list, who can help me understand what is occuring. For reference: http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2archives.html The image depicted at the beginning of this page is an example of what occurs when hydrogen peroxide comes in contact with silver particles. I would have posted a before image, but it would have just looked like clear water, as the tyndall effect was too faint to easily capture on camera ( and my images from the camera just showed a glass of 'water' with no tyndall effect ). Now, from discussions with scientists with access to atomic adsorption spectronomy and other sophisticated measuring devices, I know that hydrogen peroxide will completely ionize minute silver particles. I've been watching just such a reaction over the last two weeks. The problem is, I have a few anomolies that I can't account for. As silver is ionized, it increases the conductivity of the distilled water, as measured with something like a PWT meter. This is easily identified and measureable by using such a meter with silver electrolysis ( utilizing distilled water ) and taking conductivity readings throughout the process. However, when 35% H2O2 is added to a product that is roughly 80% ionic, 20% particulate ( silver content ), I'm showing two things: A reduction in the conductivity of the solution. An increase in the PH level. The biggest problem I am faced with is the minute amounts of nitrogen contaminating the water from air. I don't have the equipment needed to re-distill and process the water ( then keep seal on the container ) to pull out all of the nitrogen, whereby there would only be three significant elements in the equation: Ag, O and H. Some believe that the majoritiy of the silver ions are bound with ( OH - ). Ag + e- + H2O(aq) -----> [Ag(OH-)]+1 + H (gass).. made by an interaction with water; others believe that it is the hydronium molecule ( H3O) that is used in the reaction. And that with a properly made product, the minute silver particles are clusters of silver atoms with a zeta potential yielding particles with a net NEGATIVE charge, as apposed to the POSITIVE charge of the ionic silver. The hydrogen peroxide will not react with the silver ions. However, the reaction is fantastic with silver particles. Consider: Ag- + H2O2(aq) ----- > Ag(OH)+ + ? Can anyone identify the reaction that would interfere with the conductivity of the water? Depending on how much particulate content I have in the silver solution, the measurements vary by as much as ( .est ) 4 parts per million. Utilizing an extremely carefully brewed ionic silver with a very low particulate content, I get the expected rise in conductivity when adding H2O2, although I need to run a few more batches to verify my latest measurements. Comments, suggestions, equations, and or ideas appreciated! ( my apologies for any mistakes in the chemical notations, its been a long time since I took chemistry in school ) Best Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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