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On Fibromyalgia " Brain Fog " . It is so strange and I've started

comparing it to King's book " The Dead Zone " . After

has his accident there are just some things that he can't put a name to.

Luckily my dh had become quite adept at playing the guessing game.

" Honey, you know the little square black thing I stick in the drive to

get info stored on it. " " Oh, " he said, " You mean the disk. " Such is

life with FMS. He also knows that when I say to put something in the

oven I actually mean the fridge.

deb Q in KS

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Lots of us have " memory " problems. Some of us have Fibromyalgia with which

usually comes " Brain Fog! " When people ask what that is? I answer, " I

can't see what I'm suppose to remember. " Usually gets a laugh. Had a

friend actually go to the doctor the other day and demand an Alzheimer test

because his memory was getting so bad. He doesn't have Alzheimers but he

does have Old Timers memory loss.

I'm 50 and it has gotten far worse this year. Like you I was the one who

didn't ever have to write anything down since I could remember

everything...just short of having a photographic memory. I could actually

remember the page number and which paragraph a quote was in a book! Boy,

those days are long gone now.

I was a walking phone book everywhere I ever worked. Nobody used the phone

book, they just asked me what so-and-so's number was and I could give it to

them. Sometimes now little short-circuits take place: the other night I

typed in our old phone number from ten years ago when we lived in Madison,

WI, when a form asked for our current phone number. Floored me when I

realized what I had done.

Never did balance my checkbook. Just ran the totals and debits in my mind.

Not any longer! I have two programs installed to which I am transferring

the chore to. Hope it helps. Now I just have to remember to use them!

Those of you who have fibro, do you ever get your words mixed up when

speaking? Do you ever add odd words to your sentences that have absolutely

nothing to do with what you're trying to say? At least my wife has a good

sense of humor! I just hope I can keep mine!

Ray

Re: If this doesn't get a smile out of you, you're

brain-dead!

> From: Tlsouthw@...

>

> I LOVED this!!! Due to suicidal depression most of 1998 had ECT ( " shock " )

> treatments (14 first time, 10 second time) to help depression -- it worked

> all right!!! Since it messed up my memory (short and long term) I

couldn't

> remember what I was supposed to be depressed about!!!!! Seriously, it has

> been a real problem for me and is to this day because I always had an

> excellent memory (husband really relied on me to remember things for him)

and

> now I sometimes can't even remember things for more than several

seconds --

> my kids (8 and 10) tell people that I had my brain " ZAPPED " too many times

> and I'm a " little " forgetful!! I don't know if I did start to think

> (dangerous anyway {ha ha ha}) and stopped -- I'd need a " jumpstart " to get

> going again.

>

> Take care, be well!!!

>

> Tracey Southworth

>

> ---------------------------

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Ray,

Well I've never put the milk in the pantry, but I have put the canned

cat food in the freezer. *the cats were not impressed with their frozen

dinner *

Oh and I once lost a 25 lb bag of cat food. I know I bought it,

remember loading it in the car, but where it went from there who knows.

That was 6 months ago and we still haven't found it.

Oh, and I forgot about the phone numbers. I've always been a walking

phone book, never wrote any down, I called hub in tears because I

couldn't remember my Grandma's and I wanted/needed to talk to her.

Needless to say, now I have a Phone/address book and a daily

Try-To-Do-List. (Of course the list is always 2-3 times the amount I

could ever hope to accomplish, but if it's not written down it's lost).

deb Q in KS

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Deb wrote: Such is life with FMS. He also knows that when I say to put

something in the oven I actually mean the fridge.

deb Q in KS

Hey, Deb, and all you other Fibro-Brain-Fog folks...what does it mean when

you get home in the afternoon and find the cereal in the refrigerator and

the milk in the pantry?

Ray

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Kat, Ray, Deb and Fellow Foggers -

I find it amazing that in the middle of a particularly foggy day when I

can't remember what to call a fork, I can come up with some obscure bit

of information right out of the blue.

Do any of the rest of you do this??

Also a question of importance - I've been in a heavy duty flare for

about 3 weeks, anybody have any tidbits of info on how to make it stop,

or to at least help. My sense of humor is starting to run out.

deb Q in KS

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Hi everyone,

Didn't someone here post " You might have FMS if... " If it wasn't posted

here I'll do it when I get back from my daughter's. It fits us FM's to a tee.

Kathleen

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Hi everyone,

Didn't someone here post " You might have FMS if... " If it wasn't posted

here I'll do it when I get back from my daughter's. It fits us FM's to a tee.

Kathleen

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Hi again,

The memory loss is really frustrating! My daughters try to fill in the

blanks. I've " lost " so many things (right now I can't remember what they

are) I've even thought of bringing in someone who can telapathically find

stuff for me! I recently had some testing done to see exactly how much

damage has been done to my memory etc. One of the outcomes was the doctor

said it was unadvisable for me to have a cell phone. " She may get confused. "

What does he mean " May " It has become a permanent state of mind. I'm

getting rather adept at it.

Memory loss has brought me to tears more than once. I've tried leaving

myself notes on the mirror. There are so many post-it's I can't see myself

in the mirror. Luckily I've been at my job for some time and my routine is

imbedded in my mind (I hope) so it hasn't been a big problem. The teacher I

teach with is aware of my problem and very supportive.

Of any of the problems that come with FMS I really wish they could help us

with the Fog the most. I end up feeling stupid, and that has alot of old

baggage with it.

I'm rambling sorry

Kathleen

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Kathleen,

At 12:12 PM 8/13/99 -0400, you wrote:

>One of the outcomes was the doctor

>said it was unadvisable for me to have a cell phone. " She may get confused. "

>

I am confused about this.

Ken

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Hey, Ray!

You don't have to have FMS to have " brain fog " . Earlier this year a

new pain dr got me into an almost pain free state for the first time

in years. I could not believe the mental clarity I had! It was like

opening a window and letting all the stale air out and beautiful

spring breezes in for a change. I could think for a change. I could

follow a sermon instead of wonder what he was talking about. I could

concentrate on what I was doing. And I didn't need my afternoon nap.

Well, I'm back to afternoon naps, but I know that my brain fog is

linked to my level of pain, whether it is from my nerve damage,

fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis or my rheumatoid arthritis - take your

pick. I think it's the pain that distracts our brains from where we

want it to go, because it's so preoccupied with trying to keep the

internal screaming down.

Just my 2 cents.

Lois

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Hey, Ray!

You don't have to have FMS to have " brain fog " . Earlier this year a

new pain dr got me into an almost pain free state for the first time

in years. I could not believe the mental clarity I had! It was like

opening a window and letting all the stale air out and beautiful

spring breezes in for a change. I could think for a change. I could

follow a sermon instead of wonder what he was talking about. I could

concentrate on what I was doing. And I didn't need my afternoon nap.

Well, I'm back to afternoon naps, but I know that my brain fog is

linked to my level of pain, whether it is from my nerve damage,

fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis or my rheumatoid arthritis - take your

pick. I think it's the pain that distracts our brains from where we

want it to go, because it's so preoccupied with trying to keep the

internal screaming down.

Just my 2 cents.

Lois

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Lois,

Of course your 2 cents are right...

I think most of our " little gray cells " are working to alleviate the

pain that is bombarding our bodies. I do remember that Sherlock Holmes

once said that the brain has only a certain capacity, and to fill it

with useless information wasn't logical. *not the exact quote of

course, but that's the gist.

I know that my " fogginess " is worse when I'm in a fibro-flare, but it

seems to be there all the time and does seem to be getting more and more

of a problem in life. But what else is easier with this dang hurting.

take care

deb Q in KS

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Lois,

Of course your 2 cents are right...

I think most of our " little gray cells " are working to alleviate the

pain that is bombarding our bodies. I do remember that Sherlock Holmes

once said that the brain has only a certain capacity, and to fill it

with useless information wasn't logical. *not the exact quote of

course, but that's the gist.

I know that my " fogginess " is worse when I'm in a fibro-flare, but it

seems to be there all the time and does seem to be getting more and more

of a problem in life. But what else is easier with this dang hurting.

take care

deb Q in KS

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Thanks a bunch -- " brain fog " -- " can't see " (ha ha ha)!! I was leaving a

message on a friend's answering machine the other day and I think my words

were " Oh, gosh, what is my phone number? " !!!!!! I don't have fibromyalgia

(just severe chronic thoracic back pain (undiagnosed after 3-1/2 years --

every doctor I've seen has a different opinion and a different treatment --

the money pit!!) along with some other problems which don't help!! The

memory glitches are still embarassing sometimes because you can't take five

minutes to explain to someone why you can't remember things!! Every time it

happens and my children are with me, they just tell people that " Mom had her

brain zapped and it doesn't work as well now " -- seems to say it all!!

Take care, keep hangin' in!!

Tracey

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Thanks a bunch -- " brain fog " -- " can't see " (ha ha ha)!! I was leaving a

message on a friend's answering machine the other day and I think my words

were " Oh, gosh, what is my phone number? " !!!!!! I don't have fibromyalgia

(just severe chronic thoracic back pain (undiagnosed after 3-1/2 years --

every doctor I've seen has a different opinion and a different treatment --

the money pit!!) along with some other problems which don't help!! The

memory glitches are still embarassing sometimes because you can't take five

minutes to explain to someone why you can't remember things!! Every time it

happens and my children are with me, they just tell people that " Mom had her

brain zapped and it doesn't work as well now " -- seems to say it all!!

Take care, keep hangin' in!!

Tracey

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It's one of those nights! Can't sleep...pain with every breath due to

chostochondritis (inflammation of rib cage, tendons, and adjoining muscle

spasms...forget diaphragm breathing right now!

As to memory loss...it's been a terrible day. Can't remember where I put

anything. I've been putting stuff in ridiculous places which makes it even

harder to find them. I've come to the conclusion that my brain fog is

better after nights when I forget to take 150mg of Trazodone (tetra-cyclic

anti-depressant). Isn't that great...when my brain fog is at its worst and I

forget this medication, I experience far less brain fog the next day.

Wonder if that would work for other things? I'll have to ask my regular

doctor about lowering the dosage or eliminating it altogether.

I teach an adult class on Sundays. The people who participate are great at

tolerating my brain fog mistakes. I don't even know when I've inserted the

incorrect word for the word that would have made my sentence, question,

statement understandable. Luckily I'm not a lecture type teacher but a

" students get to find the answers to their own questions about the material

and discuss their discoveries " kind of teacher. Works great most of the

time. It has taken close to three years to get them to the point where I

just have to check off the things I wanted to cover in the lesson as they

discover those truths for themselves in our discussions.

If I speak to larger groups where a lecture is required, I have always

written out an exact script of what I am to say. This helps with the brain

fog during a speech though I still occasionally substitute odd words

sometimes, but am more apt to catch the mistake as I read the

script... " Whoops, now that wasn't right. What I should have said was...

Most people don't know I use a script when I do public speaking.

But the first of September I will switch to teaching 10 year olds on

Sundays. My youngest daughter is the class along with two of my best

friends children. I tell children that sometimes I will intentionally (not)

make a mistake and whoever hears the mistake has to say, " Mr. Neal you made

a mistake! " Then I ask them what I said and what I most likely meant to

say. They think its a great game. I'm just glad that I can turn a problem

into a blessing. Keeps on my toes...already chewed my nails to the quick.

LOL

Well, dream time is rapidly approaching. Good night!

Ray

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More years ago than I care to remember, I x-stitched a witty-cism for my Mom:

" I live my bifocals; my dentures fit me fine...

But Lord, how I miss my mind... "

It's beginning to fit me to a tee...boo hoo!

Deb C

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Quote: " Of all the things I've lost, I miss my memory the most. " >>

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