Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Hi Missy, what king of difference did it make? Kim Wheaton18/2003 scrapbook pagesNo man or woman is worth your tears, and the one who is, won't make you cry. View my items for sale at http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/ozsaleswaportrade/database?method=reportRows & tbl=1My favourite shop: www.scrapthat.net.auMy favourite site: www.ourcreativecompanion.com www.twopeasinabucket.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Refresh my memory on what I had said. Thats one of the reasons I hate not being able to read the previous message. I forget what comment went to which post, lolol MISSYSAHM of MANY April is Autism Awareness Month!!Become aware of our special kids!! Excuse Me While I Go Raise Tomorrow's Future. Re: medications Hi Missy, what king of difference did it make? Kim Wheaton18/2003 scrapbook pagesNo man or woman is worth your tears, and the one who is, won't make you cry. View my items for sale at http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/ozsaleswaportrade/database?method=reportRows & tbl=1My favourite shop: www.scrapthat.net.auMy favourite site: www.ourcreativecompanion.com www.twopeasinabucket.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 In a message dated 6/8/03 4:36:41 AM Central Daylight Time, autism-aspergers writes: My 14 year old with AS (and bipolar) is 5' and 140 pounds. She is dieting, TRYING to lose weight. She's lost about 7 pounds. She's gained 30 pounds this year on Seroquel although my psychiatrist says that is not a side effect.(!) My son is on Remeron, an anti D , started this in the fall. He does have some weight gain and increased hunger since then. He also is gaining and eating more lately while on the meds, after his day time meds, which may supress his appetite wear off, and his evening meds kick in, then he gets hungry. I am pretty sure that many who have children with Seroquel claim that same that you mentioned - the weight gain. I think the doctor is looking at the perspective of the side effects that are written , but there are some that may not be int eh medication's literature as a definite side effect. Who knows... in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Parents -- NOT doctors -- give kids drugs. If the parent doesn't know what they are doing, most likely the doctor doesn't either. The blind leading the blind, they both fall in the ditch. Doctors need to drug kids to keep a hook in the parents' pocketbook. medications In a message dated 6/8/03 4:36:41 AM Central Daylight Time, autism-aspergers writes: My 14 year old with AS (and bipolar) is 5' and 140 pounds. She is dieting, TRYING to lose weight. She's lost about 7 pounds. She's gained 30 pounds this year on Seroquel although my psychiatrist says that is not a side effect.(!) My son is on Remeron, an anti D , started this in the fall. He does have some weight gain and increased hunger since then. He also is gaining and eating more lately while on the meds, after his day time meds, which may supress his appetite wear off, and his evening meds kick in, then he gets hungry.I am pretty sure that many who have children with Seroquel claim that same that you mentioned - the weight gain. I think the doctor is looking at the perspective of the side effects that are written , but there are some that may not be int eh medication's literature as a definite side effect. Who knows... in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Thank you for convincing me that you are not knowledgeable of what you speak. If you are doing great with your child(ren) on the Feingold diet and with no drugs - more power to you. PLEASE realize that this is not appropriate for ALL children. I tried Feingold with my oldest before he was diagnosed ADHD. It did NOT work for HIM. I have seen it do amazing things for other children though. Before he was diagnosed ADHD, we were doing everything already that we were told to do after his diagnosis. Again, didn't work. He started Adderall XR just after Thanksgiving. I am so PROUD to report that after 4 years in a self contained special ed, he is moving up to an integrated class for 2nd grade. The difference in him is amazing if he does not receive his meds. I know full well what I am doing and I give his doctors all the info so that they can assist me in making an informed choice for him. My youngest son, just a few days shy of 4, is going through the eval process with the neurologist. We're told he has autistic tendencies, but she's not labeling him yet until she sees info from his school. Again, the Feingold diet was not a success with him. It IS a genetic thing in many cases. Therapies assist these children. Sometimes diet helps too. I would hope in a community such as this, knowing how wide the spectrum of autism is, would also understand that the treatments that assist each child are about as wide as the spectrum. - Ticali Honor Society, Certified Beauty Advisor, Fundraising Specialist To Buy or Sell Avon Call or visit www.BuyAvon.com Wife to - 7/8/95 Mom to Vinny (4/3/96) and ph (6/15/99) -----Original Message-----From: mhev Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:50 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: medications Parents -- NOT doctors -- give kids drugs. If the parent doesn't know what they are doing, most likely the doctor doesn't either. The blind leading the blind, they both fall in the ditch. Doctors need to drug kids to keep a hook in the parents' pocketbook. medications In a message dated 6/8/03 4:36:41 AM Central Daylight Time, autism-aspergers writes: My 14 year old with AS (and bipolar) is 5' and 140 pounds. She is dieting, TRYING to lose weight. She's lost about 7 pounds. She's gained 30 pounds this year on Seroquel although my psychiatrist says that is not a side effect.(!) My son is on Remeron, an anti D , started this in the fall. He does have some weight gain and increased hunger since then. He also is gaining and eating more lately while on the meds, after his day time meds, which may supress his appetite wear off, and his evening meds kick in, then he gets hungry.I am pretty sure that many who have children with Seroquel claim that same that you mentioned - the weight gain. I think the doctor is looking at the perspective of the side effects that are written , but there are some that may not be int eh medication's literature as a definite side effect. Who knows... in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 Doctors need to drug kids to keep a hook in the parents' pocketbook. ********************************* Whatever !! That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. If it wasn't for my dd's meds,the only person that would have a " hook in my pocketbook " ,would be the funeral home,,because she was so depressed,having hallucinations,,and jumping out of her own skin,,that she wouldn't have survived another year ! Kim,mom to Meaghan 13,,,Katelyn 11 Bipolar,OCD,,,Logan 5 Aspergers,JRA, & some kind of connective tissue disorder, & last,but not least,,Ethan 4 & 100% BOY ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Tk, Thanks for sharing your opinions, and for making it clear that you weren't 'prescribing' (a little joke there LOL) the same advice for all..... I appreciate it! : ) Toodles!>^..^<Maralee RE: medications Mhev, I myself am bipolar and have found alternative ways of dealing with my ups and downs. While it hasnt gotten rid of my problems they have decressed and I can live with them. FELLOW LIST MEMBERS IM NOT SAYING IF YOU GIVE YOUR CHILD MEDICATION YOU ARE BAD PARENTS. THESE ARE MY FEELINGS AND WHY I DONT MEDICATE MY CHILD. PLEASE DONT START AN ARGUMENT ABOUT WHAT IM ABOUT TO SAY. AGAIN THIS IS WHAT WORKS FOR MY FAMILY AND IM NOT BASHING ANY OF YOU. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAY HAVE DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH YOUR CHILDREN AND THOSE ISSUES ARE NOT BEING CONTROLLED BY NON-MEDICAL INTERVENTIONS. OK? Im deathly afraid of giving my child (aspergers) medication because so much of it has not been tested on these children. Most doctors will say there are not very many side effects of these meds. Like Clondine, its for adults to help with high blood pressure but parents and doctors give this to children all the time and dont even monitor what effects this medication has had on their childs blood pressure. How about Ritalin, recent studies show this med is stronger than COCAINE!!!! We know what effects cocaine have on peoples brains and bodies yet we havent tested this drug for long term effects on children..deductive reasoning tells me that since these two drugs are similar that the same side effects can be seen 5-10-20 years down the road. Then what will happen with these children are walking around partially brain dead , having ulcers, and other problems??? Also, why would I trust the same drug companies that intially could have hurt my child with mercury doses? My sons "autistic" features started showing up exactly 3 days after a round of shots. 3 DAYS!!!! I KNOW this had a huge part to play in my sons life and it really pisses me off that these companies that produce medication to help save lives could possibly hurt so many children and lie to families!!!! So I DONT trust anything that comes out of their money hungary little mouths. Drug companies SPEND MORE ON ADVERTISTING THAN THEY DO ON RESEARCH. What does that say.. money money money..all they want is money!!! As far as you refering to the antacids..yes you are correct that diet can cause problems I also would like to add stress to that list of the cause of acid reflux. -----Original Message-----From: mhev Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:31 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: medications There are a handful of conditions that drugs are effective with: diabetes, schizophrenia, etc. This is, however, a list that deals mostly with autism and aspergers and there is no drug cure for these two conditions. Unfortunately some charlatan doctors who know very little about autism string the children out on drugs and create additional problems which are then erroneously thought to be due to the autism and more drugs are then prescribed to deal with those gruesome side effects. I was in a large drug store once and measured off the length of shelving for ant-acids: 80 (eighty) meters!!! There is one simple cure for indigestion / reflux that costs nothing: stop eating junk food. Junk food by definition is made from wheat, grease, milk -- Aspergers and autistics should be drug-free so that the root condition can be dealt with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Maralee, Its hard not to just start talking about things and making it clear that this is what we think.. and not facts. Although some things that are said there are even two sets of facts, which I THINK (lol) is the case with medicaiton. For every parent who medicates for the right reasons there is another parent who medicates for the wrong reason. Likewise, for every one good drug there seems to be a bad drug. Thats why it has to be a personal decsion for each family and each individual and each case I think we all can agree on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 LOLOL I know what you mean. I think the most important thing to remember about medications is it has to be a decision made between you and your doctor. Researching the medication would be a good idea as well. Don't let anyone make you feel bad for using medication, it is something you chose to do to help make your child's life better. MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!! Excuse Me While I Go Raise Tomorrow's Future. RE: medications Missy, I think you are right. Of course when he is 6'4" and raging I may have a totally different outlook on medication But at 5 and barely over 40 pounds I can still handle him .. grrrr!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 Are you enjoying yourself? Life is so short and full of so many unexpected surprises. If you feel you have something to contribute, try to do so. If not, use your intelligence on something else that is more constructive. If you actually have one of these illnesses, you can do so much for all these children. If you don't, find another hobby. Re: medications Doctors need to drug kids to keep a hook in the parents' pocketbook.*********************************Whatever !! That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. If itwasn't for my dd's meds,the only person that would have a "hook in mypocketbook",would be the funeral home,,because she was sodepressed,having hallucinations,,and jumping out of her own skin,,thatshe wouldn't have survived another year !Kim,mom to Meaghan 13,,,Katelyn 11 Bipolar,OCD,,,Logan 5Aspergers,JRA, & some kind of connective tissue disorder, & last,but notleast,,Ethan 4 & 100% BOY________________________________________________________________The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 Hello everyone, Here's my two cents. Pharmaceuticals have one goal and one goal only and that is to make money. The last thing they want is to find cures for any disease. What would threaten the pharmaceuticals profits? The answer is health. Big Pharma has beocme so powerful they now control most of medical research. If you notice they never look for the causes they look for medications to treat the symtoms. Now if some of those medications cause more illness which infact they do they can make more drugs to treat those. This equals more profits. They also control most medical Doctors. They now control most of the media because the corporatios that own the media have thier stocks in Pharmaceuticals. Then comes Government who also own stock in big Pharma. Big Pharma also contributes huge amount of money to the parties. So what is left! Knowledge is very powerful. They of course don't want you to know any of this so they try to keep the truth under raps and then push congress to pass laws to take away your rights that allow you to ake your own decisions for yourself. They also call Doctors that think outside the box Quacks. The only drug that ever cured anything was an antibiotic and look what was done to that. They over prescribed so now we have resistant strains of bacteria that take stronger and stronger antibiotics that are very dangerous. They have a captive market and we no longer live in a free society. Our air, water, and food is poluted which makes us sick so we can take more drugs to make us sicker. Medicine is corrupted because it is controled by the people who profit from it. Who are the people that profit. Big Pharma, Doctors, Government adn stock holders which are all of the above and more. We just it, eat it and then die from it. Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 Ive actually enjoyed some of the comments as it has fostered a good conversation among the other group members about issues. I think everyone is contributing in some fashion even if we all dont agree with it. I also think everyone is entitled to their own opinions about all of these issues, mhev is not the only one sporting these opinions here or in the world. -----Original Message-----From: Heidi French Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:18 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: medications Are you enjoying yourself? Life is so short and full of so many unexpected surprises. If you feel you have something to contribute, try to do so. If not, use your intelligence on something else that is more constructive. If you actually have one of these illnesses, you can do so much for all these children. If you don't, find another hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 Peggy you make very good points!!! I totally agree with you!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 I have no problem with some of the comments. However, it would be nice to know where they're coming from. Heidi RE: medications Ive actually enjoyed some of the comments as it has fostered a good conversation among the other group members about issues. I think everyone is contributing in some fashion even if we all dont agree with it. I also think everyone is entitled to their own opinions about all of these issues, mhev is not the only one sporting these opinions here or in the world. -----Original Message-----From: Heidi French Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:18 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: medications Are you enjoying yourself? Life is so short and full of so many unexpected surprises. If you feel you have something to contribute, try to do so. If not, use your intelligence on something else that is more constructive. If you actually have one of these illnesses, you can do so much for all these children. If you don't, find another hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 I live in scotland and have a ten year old son who has Aspergers, i have never been offered medication in any form for my son. I am currently about to try a gluten and casein free diet for him as i feel this could be beneficial to him. I would be interested to know if anybody else has any experience of this diet. I`ve been a member of this group for quite some considerable time now and i don`t usually put in my tuppence worth but this person Mhev - i wouldn`t even give this person the satisfaction of opening the e-mails, block them or delete them, it`s like school bullies - if you don`t respond they soon become bored. Anyway thanks for taking the time to read this, hope to get some good info back. ally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2003 Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 Hi Ally, Have you thought of doing a urine test first? You can get them done at the University of Sunderland and this will show whether there is an intolerance to gluten,caesin or both. Knowing before you start could save you a lot of hassle - and money! THere are also some firms in the UK who will send you free samples of their products, but I can't remember who they are offhand Regards -----Original Message-----From: alysonthomsona@... Sent: 15 June 2003 20:22To: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: medicationsI live in scotland and have a ten year old son who has Aspergers, i have never been offered medication in any form for my son. I am currently about to try a gluten and casein free diet for him as i feel this could be beneficial to him. I would be interested to know if anybody else has any experience of this diet.I`ve been a member of this group for quite some considerable time now and i don`t usually put in my tuppence worth but this person Mhev - i wouldn`t even give this person the satisfaction of opening the e-mails, block them or delete them, it`s like school bullies - if you don`t respond they soon become bored.Anyway thanks for taking the time to read this, hope to get some good info back. ally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2003 Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 Hi Ally!! I am scanning emails right now so I haven't had a chance to see responses to your post. There are several people who are very knowledgeable concerning the GF/CF diet. I, myself am looking into a couple of easy to read and follow books to get started on this. I think it would benefit my 14yr old with asperger's as well as my other children. MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!! Excuse Me While I Go Raise Tomorrow's Future. Re: medications I live in scotland and have a ten year old son who has Aspergers, i have never been offered medication in any form for my son. I am currently about to try a gluten and casein free diet for him as i feel this could be beneficial to him. I would be interested to know if anybody else has any experience of this diet.I`ve been a member of this group for quite some considerable time now and i don`t usually put in my tuppence worth but this person Mhev - i wouldn`t even give this person the satisfaction of opening the e-mails, block them or delete them, it`s like school bullies - if you don`t respond they soon become bored.Anyway thanks for taking the time to read this, hope to get some good info back. ally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 Ha/So RE: medications Ive actually enjoyed some of the comments as it has fostered a good conversation among the other group members about issues. I think everyone is contributing in some fashion even if we all dont agree with it. I also think everyone is entitled to their own opinions about all of these issues, mhev is not the only one sporting these opinions here or in the world. -----Original Message-----From: Heidi French Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:18 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: medications Are you enjoying yourself? Life is so short and full of so many unexpected surprises. If you feel you have something to contribute, try to do so. If not, use your intelligence on something else that is more constructive. If you actually have one of these illnesses, you can do so much for all these children. If you don't, find another hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 Ha/So RE: medications Ive actually enjoyed some of the comments as it has fostered a good conversation among the other group members about issues. I think everyone is contributing in some fashion even if we all dont agree with it. I also think everyone is entitled to their own opinions about all of these issues, mhev is not the only one sporting these opinions here or in the world. -----Original Message-----From: Heidi French Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:18 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: medications Are you enjoying yourself? Life is so short and full of so many unexpected surprises. If you feel you have something to contribute, try to do so. If not, use your intelligence on something else that is more constructive. If you actually have one of these illnesses, you can do so much for all these children. If you don't, find another hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 Ha/So Re: medications Doctors need to drug kids to keep a hook in the parents' pocketbook.*********************************Whatever !! That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. If itwasn't for my dd's meds,the only person that would have a "hook in mypocketbook",would be the funeral home,,because she was sodepressed,having hallucinations,,and jumping out of her own skin,,thatshe wouldn't have survived another year !Kim,mom to Meaghan 13,,,Katelyn 11 Bipolar,OCD,,,Logan 5Aspergers,JRA, & some kind of connective tissue disorder, & last,but notleast,,Ethan 4 & 100% BOY________________________________________________________________The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 My DS, 7 takes 2.5 mg of abilify for OCD. It works well, with the exception of the weight gain side effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 My DS, 7 takes 2.5 mg of abilify for OCD. It works well, with the exception of the weight gain side effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 I didn’t think of side affects. Good point. Anyone wish to add side affects? .+'*'+.+'*'+. . *'+. .+'* * |My DS, 7 takes 2.5 mg of abilify for OCD. It works well, with the |exception of the weight gain side effect. | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 I didn’t think of side affects. Good point. Anyone wish to add side affects? .+'*'+.+'*'+. . *'+. .+'* * |My DS, 7 takes 2.5 mg of abilify for OCD. It works well, with the |exception of the weight gain side effect. | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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