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They will be doing another MRI I let them know about the last one and I had

sent for a copy of the films so they are here with the doctors now. I am

still waiting on all the medical records I requested. I know they will be

doing the MRI and seizures first so they will do more EEG's on her and they

said they want to do some blood work on her too.

Karrie

www.clik.to/abigail

Here we go again

> Karrie - that's wonderful !!! Thank God Abby is finally getting the care

> that she needs. Please keep us updated on her test results. Are they going

> to do another MRI on her ???? I'd let them know that the term Pachygyria

was

> used in her last MRI, and you want to determine the extent of her brain

> abnormality....Hopefully, they'll run another MRI on her brain....

>

>

>

> Good luck !!!

>

> Give that brave little girl of yours great big {{{ HUGS }}} & kisses for

> us....

>

>

> Hang in there, you're doing great ...

>

> Your friends in NJ....

>

> & her little Angel, Crystal Aquielle....

>

>

>

>

>

>

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They will be doing another MRI I let them know about the last one and I had

sent for a copy of the films so they are here with the doctors now. I am

still waiting on all the medical records I requested. I know they will be

doing the MRI and seizures first so they will do more EEG's on her and they

said they want to do some blood work on her too.

Karrie

www.clik.to/abigail

Here we go again

> Karrie - that's wonderful !!! Thank God Abby is finally getting the care

> that she needs. Please keep us updated on her test results. Are they going

> to do another MRI on her ???? I'd let them know that the term Pachygyria

was

> used in her last MRI, and you want to determine the extent of her brain

> abnormality....Hopefully, they'll run another MRI on her brain....

>

>

>

> Good luck !!!

>

> Give that brave little girl of yours great big {{{ HUGS }}} & kisses for

> us....

>

>

> Hang in there, you're doing great ...

>

> Your friends in NJ....

>

> & her little Angel, Crystal Aquielle....

>

>

>

>

>

>

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They will be doing another MRI I let them know about the last one and I had

sent for a copy of the films so they are here with the doctors now. I am

still waiting on all the medical records I requested. I know they will be

doing the MRI and seizures first so they will do more EEG's on her and they

said they want to do some blood work on her too.

Karrie

www.clik.to/abigail

Here we go again

> Karrie - that's wonderful !!! Thank God Abby is finally getting the care

> that she needs. Please keep us updated on her test results. Are they going

> to do another MRI on her ???? I'd let them know that the term Pachygyria

was

> used in her last MRI, and you want to determine the extent of her brain

> abnormality....Hopefully, they'll run another MRI on her brain....

>

>

>

> Good luck !!!

>

> Give that brave little girl of yours great big {{{ HUGS }}} & kisses for

> us....

>

>

> Hang in there, you're doing great ...

>

> Your friends in NJ....

>

> & her little Angel, Crystal Aquielle....

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Karrie - that's really great !!! MY thoughts & prayers are with you all...

Give her & her sister great big {{{ HUGS }}} & kisses for us...

Luv to you all...

& he Angel, Crystal Aquielle....

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Karrie - that's really great !!! MY thoughts & prayers are with you all...

Give her & her sister great big {{{ HUGS }}} & kisses for us...

Luv to you all...

& he Angel, Crystal Aquielle....

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Hi Cheryl. I am sorry to hear about your rough time. Do you know anyone

handy that could fix that microwave? Is it somewhat of a positive to know

that he still has the fine motor skills to even do that?

Hang in there. These rollercoaster rides are something else. I find you

just get into a pattern that you can handle, and then, wham, your going down

hill at fast speed. Then, thankfully, we hit level ground for a while more.

This was a hard thing for me to get used to. In fact, I am still trying to

adjust to how this is.

I will be thinking about you! Take care.

> here we go again

>

> Last week I wrote that it was nice while it lasted - Bob's improvement.

> Boy,

> was it ever, especially after last night and today.

>

> Bob often gets up at night for an Ensure. I sleep right through it. This

>

> morning I found the usual empty Ensure can on the counter and the computer

>

> guts out of the microwave!!! I can't get it back together and am

> reminded

> about how he did a similar thing with the security system even before I

> realized he was ill. We haven't had an operating security alarm for at

> least

> 5 years and maybe longer - we had never used it and since he didn't know

> how,

> intended to fix it. But I do need that microwave and the light and the

> exhaust fan!

>

> After daybreak he coughed and choked, spitting up stale Ensure and

> complaining of an upset stomach. Said he'd used an old straw instead of

> getting a fresh one and thought it was contaminated. He went back to bed

> and

> after some bad dreams and scary gurgling, slept until 4:30 this afternoon!

>

> He felt a little feverish - 100.3 - but also too soon after having been

> asleep, so I think it probably isn't really that high. Drank 7-Up and

> water

> and had a cup of soup, which is staying down without any trouble. I

> skipped

> his AM and mid-day meds and gave him a 25/100 Sinemet at 5PM. Can really

> see

> how badly he needs it. Brought him his walker, which he used when I was

> there. But he was up a few minutes ago and moving a little better, not

> using

> it.

>

> We talk about getting a reprieve from Lewy now and then, and I can tell

> you

> those 5 weeks after hospitalization were terrific - better than I'd seen

> him

> in several years. Tonight he is acting and talking like he did prior to

> hospitalization. Today I organized all of the insurance reports so I can

> match them up with the bills as they come in. This evening I am hoping

> we're

> not headed for a new batch!!

>

> Cheryl - riding the rollercoaster

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Cheryl. I am sorry to hear about your rough time. Do you know anyone

handy that could fix that microwave? Is it somewhat of a positive to know

that he still has the fine motor skills to even do that?

Hang in there. These rollercoaster rides are something else. I find you

just get into a pattern that you can handle, and then, wham, your going down

hill at fast speed. Then, thankfully, we hit level ground for a while more.

This was a hard thing for me to get used to. In fact, I am still trying to

adjust to how this is.

I will be thinking about you! Take care.

> here we go again

>

> Last week I wrote that it was nice while it lasted - Bob's improvement.

> Boy,

> was it ever, especially after last night and today.

>

> Bob often gets up at night for an Ensure. I sleep right through it. This

>

> morning I found the usual empty Ensure can on the counter and the computer

>

> guts out of the microwave!!! I can't get it back together and am

> reminded

> about how he did a similar thing with the security system even before I

> realized he was ill. We haven't had an operating security alarm for at

> least

> 5 years and maybe longer - we had never used it and since he didn't know

> how,

> intended to fix it. But I do need that microwave and the light and the

> exhaust fan!

>

> After daybreak he coughed and choked, spitting up stale Ensure and

> complaining of an upset stomach. Said he'd used an old straw instead of

> getting a fresh one and thought it was contaminated. He went back to bed

> and

> after some bad dreams and scary gurgling, slept until 4:30 this afternoon!

>

> He felt a little feverish - 100.3 - but also too soon after having been

> asleep, so I think it probably isn't really that high. Drank 7-Up and

> water

> and had a cup of soup, which is staying down without any trouble. I

> skipped

> his AM and mid-day meds and gave him a 25/100 Sinemet at 5PM. Can really

> see

> how badly he needs it. Brought him his walker, which he used when I was

> there. But he was up a few minutes ago and moving a little better, not

> using

> it.

>

> We talk about getting a reprieve from Lewy now and then, and I can tell

> you

> those 5 weeks after hospitalization were terrific - better than I'd seen

> him

> in several years. Tonight he is acting and talking like he did prior to

> hospitalization. Today I organized all of the insurance reports so I can

> match them up with the bills as they come in. This evening I am hoping

> we're

> not headed for a new batch!!

>

> Cheryl - riding the rollercoaster

>

>

>

>

>

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Hang in there Cheryl, your doing a great job as are so many others. Please

do not attemp to fix the microwave you can be seriously injured and possibly

electricuted.....Shirley

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>To: CAREGIVER-ONLINE@..., LBDcaregivers

>CC: angelx@... (Peggy Cone), PRUMMENIE@... (Pat Rummenie),

> Nanette7fl@..., mgoldber@... (Miriam Goldberg),

>LORRIERIGELMAN@... (LORRIE BROWN), LewyLady@...,

>Krisrg25@..., gigir@... (GiGi Rue), dmillar@...

>(Donna Millar)

>Subject: here we go again

>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:16:49 EDT

>

>Last week I wrote that it was nice while it lasted - Bob's improvement.

>Boy,

>was it ever, especially after last night and today.

>

>Bob often gets up at night for an Ensure. I sleep right through it. This

>morning I found the usual empty Ensure can on the counter and the computer

>guts out of the microwave!!! I can't get it back together and am reminded

>about how he did a similar thing with the security system even before I

>realized he was ill. We haven't had an operating security alarm for at

>least

>5 years and maybe longer - we had never used it and since he didn't know

>how,

>intended to fix it. But I do need that microwave and the light and the

>exhaust fan!

>

>After daybreak he coughed and choked, spitting up stale Ensure and

>complaining of an upset stomach. Said he'd used an old straw instead of

>getting a fresh one and thought it was contaminated. He went back to bed

>and

>after some bad dreams and scary gurgling, slept until 4:30 this afternoon!

>He felt a little feverish - 100.3 - but also too soon after having been

>asleep, so I think it probably isn't really that high. Drank 7-Up and

>water

>and had a cup of soup, which is staying down without any trouble. I

>skipped

>his AM and mid-day meds and gave him a 25/100 Sinemet at 5PM. Can really

>see

>how badly he needs it. Brought him his walker, which he used when I was

>there. But he was up a few minutes ago and moving a little better, not

>using

>it.

>

>We talk about getting a reprieve from Lewy now and then, and I can tell you

>those 5 weeks after hospitalization were terrific - better than I'd seen

>him

>in several years. Tonight he is acting and talking like he did prior to

>hospitalization. Today I organized all of the insurance reports so I can

>match them up with the bills as they come in. This evening I am hoping

>we're

>not headed for a new batch!!

>

>Cheryl - riding the rollercoaster

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 7/24/02 8:37:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

cindy.riggs@... writes:

> Is it somewhat of a positive to know that he still has the fine motor skills

> to even do that?

Hi, .

He didn't actually disconnect any wires THANK GOODNESS. It was a pry job to

get the panel off, which hangs by those wires. Several PC " tapes " have been

disconnected, though. Too scary!

Cheryl

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And to think...I was all excited that my Mom was able to open and close the

sliding glass door to the deck!

LTJG Emerson

Aviation Stores Officer

USS NASSAU (LHA 4)

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In a message dated 7/24/02 8:37:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

cindy.riggs@... writes:

> Is it somewhat of a positive to know that he still has the fine motor

skills

> to even do that?

Hi, .

He didn't actually disconnect any wires THANK GOODNESS. It was a pry job to

get the panel off, which hangs by those wires. Several PC " tapes " have been

disconnected, though. Too scary!

Cheryl

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Did he ever say why he did it?

>

>

> In a message dated 7/24/02 8:37:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

> cindy.riggs@... writes:

>

>

> > Is it somewhat of a positive to know that he still has the fine motor

> skills

> > to even do that?

>

> Hi, .

> He didn't actually disconnect any wires THANK GOODNESS. It was a pry job

> to

> get the panel off, which hangs by those wires. Several PC " tapes " have

> been

> disconnected, though. Too scary!

> Cheryl

>

>

>

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In a message dated 7/25/02 2:01:10 PM Central Daylight Time,

cindy.riggs@... writes:

> Did he ever say why he did it?

>

He doesn't seem to remember doing it. I'm sure not going to push him. He

looks so confused about what went on. Cheryl

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Hi Cheryl. Have you found someone to repair it yet?

Take care,

> Re: here we go again

>

> In a message dated 7/25/02 2:01:10 PM Central Daylight Time,

> cindy.riggs@... writes:

>

>

> > Did he ever say why he did it?

> >

>

> He doesn't seem to remember doing it. I'm sure not going to push him. He

>

> looks so confused about what went on. Cheryl

>

>

>

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Hello Mariea,

I am sorry to hear about your Mom. It is NOT unusual for our LO's to have a

bad day. For my MIL, it depends on where she is in her thoughts. Just

recently my MIL became very aggressive and scratched and hit at one of the

staff and tried to pull her shirt of her. My MIL's Paxil had been reduced

and she wasn't sleeping well. Plus, my FIL was out of town and my MIL was

missing him terribly. He is her main focus in life now. One morning, my

MIL was saying how her husband had died and she was sad, and then the staff

lady tried to get my MIL dressed and then wham. It all happened so fast.

She just lost it for a moment. They also think it could have happened

because she had not been sleeping, so she was getting agitated easily, so

they gave her some extra Risperidal at night (a PRN dose). Well, a side

effect of too much Risperidal can cause insomnia, increased agitation, and

hallucinations. The very things we look to this drug to control! So now

they gave her a sleeping agent to ensure she gets her rest. As for your

Mom, maybe she is having a reaction to a med change, or perhaps she may have

had some thoughts that could have been upsetting her. There is no rhyme or

reason to this asinine disease. What is worse is the healthcare industry

just does not know enough about the disease and the behaviors associated

with it.

I hope everything works out with your Mom. I will say an extra prayer for

you tonight.

Here We Go Again

Went to see Mom at lunch time at the NH. She was awake, I got her

glasses for her and she hugged and kissed me. Mom actually fed

herself at lunch time today. Then one of the aids tells me she was

hitting her aid today. Then I see the head nurse who tells me that

about 3p yesterday Mom started getting agitated and hitting the tray

with her hands and with her knees from underneath. She said this

continued the rest of the evening and into the night. Mom didn't

sleep last night. One of the night nurses padded the tray, above and

below. Now this is the first incident in a week. Mom had the

Trazodone increased one week ago. I'm a little disturbed because of

this one incident, even though it was prolong, her doctor was called

and he is asking for another psych consult. I made it clear to the

nurse that I don't want Mom put on any antipsychotics and that I want

the psychiatrist to call with what he is thinking of doing. I know

it was extreme, but can't Mom who suffers from a terrible disease

have a really bad day.

The rest of my visit with Mom was great. We chatted a little and

then I put her in bed because she was so tired she was figity and

fretful. I no sooner put her in bed and she was out like a light

I told the nurse that it was probably the disease and that things

flucuate with this disease.

Has anyone else dealt with this problem. Any suggestions would be

greatly appreciated.

Thank,

Mariea

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Mariea

I deal with the kind of behaviour you explained almost daily with my

dad. Friday, when dad went back to the nh I had another talk with the

administrator. I pleaded that they adjust their schedule to fit my dad,

after all, their job is to care for my dad. One of her replies was " Oh,

so you are saying your dad needs more sleep than most people? " Oh did

this tick me off. I told her it is too bad she didn't know my dad

before LBD. He would go to bed late, 10:00-midnight most nights, and

was up by 6:00 or 7:00 in the morning. So what I am truly saying is

that " MY DAD " doesn't require more sleep, but " THE DISEASE " seems to.

My dad is not an agitated person, the disease is. I lost my dad several

years ago, this disease just happened to move into his body. She

changed her wording and perspective on our conversation quickly. I

apologized for my dad being such a " burden " on the staff, and told her,

for the sake of the nh, hopefully dad wouldn't be around much longer for

them to have to care for. Then I walked away. I refuse to let any

staff at the nh put any guilt on my shoulders for them needing to do

their job. I am sure if my dad were to apply for a disease, he wouldn't

have picked this one, neither would I, and with that said, all of this

is not HIS fault. The administrator seemed to drop her shoulders as I

was walking away, hopefully she can be a little more compassionate

toward this disease instead of transferring my dad to an adult

psychiatric hospital. I know this was a little harsh, yet my dad is

worth it.

Sandie

Des Moines, IA

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Mariea

I deal with the kind of behaviour you explained almost daily with my

dad. Friday, when dad went back to the nh I had another talk with the

administrator. I pleaded that they adjust their schedule to fit my dad,

after all, their job is to care for my dad. One of her replies was " Oh,

so you are saying your dad needs more sleep than most people? " Oh did

this tick me off. I told her it is too bad she didn't know my dad

before LBD. He would go to bed late, 10:00-midnight most nights, and

was up by 6:00 or 7:00 in the morning. So what I am truly saying is

that " MY DAD " doesn't require more sleep, but " THE DISEASE " seems to.

My dad is not an agitated person, the disease is. I lost my dad several

years ago, this disease just happened to move into his body. She

changed her wording and perspective on our conversation quickly. I

apologized for my dad being such a " burden " on the staff, and told her,

for the sake of the nh, hopefully dad wouldn't be around much longer for

them to have to care for. Then I walked away. I refuse to let any

staff at the nh put any guilt on my shoulders for them needing to do

their job. I am sure if my dad were to apply for a disease, he wouldn't

have picked this one, neither would I, and with that said, all of this

is not HIS fault. The administrator seemed to drop her shoulders as I

was walking away, hopefully she can be a little more compassionate

toward this disease instead of transferring my dad to an adult

psychiatric hospital. I know this was a little harsh, yet my dad is

worth it.

Sandie

Des Moines, IA

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Hi all:

Tonight I got a call from the owner of the caregiving agency: she thinks

the caregiver I hired is giving up on caring for my mom. She can't handle

how listless Mom is. She can't engage her in anything. All Mom does is

sit and doze. The owner of the agency asked me if perhaps the Pacerone

they have Mom on could be making her listless. The only other med she gets

is .25 mg of Risperdal at bedtime.

Any thoughts or helpful experiences on this?

Thanks.

Anne

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Just a baby aspirin a day.

At 05:09 AM 9/24/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>

> >The only other med she gets is .25 mg of Risperdal at bedtime.

>

>Anne is she taking any over the counter drugs? Barb

>

>

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Anne

I just went to my Physician's Desk Reference (PDR) to look up

Pacerone...never heard of it before. I would type in the information

but this med. takes up almost 4 pages.

It does state it is used as an antiarrythmic agent. My interpretation

is it can be very harmful...actually states:

Side Effects:

Adverse reactions, some potentially fatal, are common with doses greater

than 400 mg/day.

Special Concerns:

The drug may be more sensitive in geriatric clients, especially in

thyroid dysfunction.

Client/Family Teaching:

1. Drug is used to control heart beat irregularities.

2. Report is crystals develop on the skin, producing a bluish color, so

dosage can be adjusted.

3. Avoid direct exposure to sunlight. Wear protective clothing and a

sunscreen when exposed.

4. Report all side effects, especially any abnormal swelling, bleeding

or bruising.

5. Complaints of painful breathing, wheezing, fever, coughing, or

shortness of breath are signs & symptoms of pulmonary problems and

require prompt attention.

6. Central nervous system symptoms such as tremor, lack of

coordination, numbness, and dizziness require evaluation.

7. Cmplaints of headaches, depression, or insomnia as well as any

change in behavior such as decreased interest in personal appearance or

apparent hallucinations may require a change in therapy

8. Schedule periodic eye exams because small yellow-brown granular

corneal deposits may develop during prolonged therapy. Visual changes

require prompt ophthalmic evaluation.

9. Therapy with this drug requires periodic lab studies and close

medical evaluation.

Also, in one section it states " effects may persist for several weeks or

months after therapy is terminated " .

This all sounded like a concern to me. Hope this helps, and by the

sounds of all above, it may be one reason your mom is in the state she

is. Please let us know how she is...and if I can help. I don't

understand why the caregiver is possibly " giving up " . This happened to

my dad as well and as I told the former NH it reminds me of the old

cliche... " When the going gets tough, the touch get going " , they

abandoned my dad when he needed them most. This is all just beside me.

Keeping you in my prayers Anne.

Sandie

Des Moines, IA

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Hi Anne. What other meds does your Mom take? Is she sleeping at night?

Some of the " spells " of this disease are sleeping/and or dozing a lot. This

usually passes but I would make certain the doctor knows about it.

Take care Anne.

Here we go again

Hi all:

Tonight I got a call from the owner of the caregiving agency: she thinks

the caregiver I hired is giving up on caring for my mom. She can't handle

how listless Mom is. She can't engage her in anything. All Mom does is

sit and doze. The owner of the agency asked me if perhaps the Pacerone

they have Mom on could be making her listless. The only other med she gets

is .25 mg of Risperdal at bedtime.

Any thoughts or helpful experiences on this?

Thanks.

Anne

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Hi Anne. What other meds does your Mom take? Is she sleeping at night?

Some of the " spells " of this disease are sleeping/and or dozing a lot. This

usually passes but I would make certain the doctor knows about it.

Take care Anne.

Here we go again

Hi all:

Tonight I got a call from the owner of the caregiving agency: she thinks

the caregiver I hired is giving up on caring for my mom. She can't handle

how listless Mom is. She can't engage her in anything. All Mom does is

sit and doze. The owner of the agency asked me if perhaps the Pacerone

they have Mom on could be making her listless. The only other med she gets

is .25 mg of Risperdal at bedtime.

Any thoughts or helpful experiences on this?

Thanks.

Anne

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