Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Bob, You have my interests perked. What " mystery " effect? Bob on 5/12/03 8:11 PM, Comm Central at r_welldon@... wrote: > MS is neither a bug or a germ, and to use a " pure " Rife > device to handle it would be to make a false assumption. > Possibly, pure Rife devices could be used against MS > for their " other " benefit, the one most Rifers don't > like to talk about, and the one Aubrey, in his brilliant > essay, referred to as the " mystery " Rife effect. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Bob, You have my interests perked. What " mystery " effect? Bob on 5/12/03 8:11 PM, Comm Central at r_welldon@... wrote: > MS is neither a bug or a germ, and to use a " pure " Rife > device to handle it would be to make a false assumption. > Possibly, pure Rife devices could be used against MS > for their " other " benefit, the one most Rifers don't > like to talk about, and the one Aubrey, in his brilliant > essay, referred to as the " mystery " Rife effect. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 The pathogen component of MS may not be the whole story but it is part of it. MS patients are far more likely to have Lyme disease and/or HHV6 than the general population. Then there is the heavy metals issue, and the lack of B-12 in the spinal fluid, etc. Dick http://www.royalrife.com MS and frequency devices > MS is neither a bug or a germ, and to use a " pure " Rife > device to handle it would be to make a false assumption. > Possibly, pure Rife devices could be used against MS > for their " other " benefit, the one most Rifers don't > like to talk about, and the one Aubrey, in his brilliant > essay, referred to as the " mystery " Rife effect. > > MS is a medical monster. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 The pathogen component of MS may not be the whole story but it is part of it. MS patients are far more likely to have Lyme disease and/or HHV6 than the general population. Then there is the heavy metals issue, and the lack of B-12 in the spinal fluid, etc. Dick http://www.royalrife.com MS and frequency devices > MS is neither a bug or a germ, and to use a " pure " Rife > device to handle it would be to make a false assumption. > Possibly, pure Rife devices could be used against MS > for their " other " benefit, the one most Rifers don't > like to talk about, and the one Aubrey, in his brilliant > essay, referred to as the " mystery " Rife effect. > > MS is a medical monster. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Bob, I'm surprised you would make a cut-and-dry statement that MS is not a bug nor a germ, especially when there are health professionals who have been stuying it for years and years that think that it is " probably " caused by infection? In other words, they don't know for sure. Please tell me how you know that. Based on my research, in my opinion, MS is just a label for a bunch of symptoms of unknown origin. Causes can be various - infection, heavy metal or other environmental toxicity, etc. Thanks, Comm Central wrote: MS is neither a bug or a germ, and to use a " pure " Rife device to handle it would be to make a false assumption. Possibly, pure Rife devices could be used against MS for their " other " benefit, the one most Rifers don't like to talk about, and the one Aubrey, in his brilliant essay, referred to as the " mystery " Rife effect. MS is a medical monster. While people on this board have been offering anectodal chitchat, there are very few documented cases of MS reversal, under medical supervision. Those that do exist are often traced back to the ARE clinic, which has, over several decades, been using the Edgar Cayce remedies as practiced by medical doctors: http://www.arizonanewage.com/body/areclinic.htm A first person story about this approach and MS can be found at : http://members.tripod.com/~dudley_delany/index-111.html The frequency device used in the treatment of MS is not a Rife device but it does use frequency and current, albeit low. Plans for its deign are freely given at the URL above. To my knowldge the only person making these devices for sale can be reached at cayceconcepts@... (assuming you dont just follow the plans and build your own) Hope this helps Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Bob, I'm surprised you would make a cut-and-dry statement that MS is not a bug nor a germ, especially when there are health professionals who have been stuying it for years and years that think that it is " probably " caused by infection? In other words, they don't know for sure. Please tell me how you know that. Based on my research, in my opinion, MS is just a label for a bunch of symptoms of unknown origin. Causes can be various - infection, heavy metal or other environmental toxicity, etc. Thanks, Comm Central wrote: MS is neither a bug or a germ, and to use a " pure " Rife device to handle it would be to make a false assumption. Possibly, pure Rife devices could be used against MS for their " other " benefit, the one most Rifers don't like to talk about, and the one Aubrey, in his brilliant essay, referred to as the " mystery " Rife effect. MS is a medical monster. While people on this board have been offering anectodal chitchat, there are very few documented cases of MS reversal, under medical supervision. Those that do exist are often traced back to the ARE clinic, which has, over several decades, been using the Edgar Cayce remedies as practiced by medical doctors: http://www.arizonanewage.com/body/areclinic.htm A first person story about this approach and MS can be found at : http://members.tripod.com/~dudley_delany/index-111.html The frequency device used in the treatment of MS is not a Rife device but it does use frequency and current, albeit low. Plans for its deign are freely given at the URL above. To my knowldge the only person making these devices for sale can be reached at cayceconcepts@... (assuming you dont just follow the plans and build your own) Hope this helps Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Hi Dick, Vitamin B12 deficiency seems to be central to many neuropathic conditions and has been widely implicated as a key factor in MS. It's worth trying a regular dose of Methylcobalamin (1 mg upwards per day) to see if there is any improvement. Methylcobalamin is not dependent on intrinsic factor for absorption and can be taken sublingually with very good effect. Best wishes Aubrey > The pathogen component of MS may not be the whole story but it is part of > it. MS patients are far more likely to have Lyme disease and/or HHV6 than > the general population. Then there is the heavy metals issue, and the lack > of B-12 in the spinal fluid, etc. > > Dick http://www.royalrife.com > > > MS and frequency devices > > > > MS is neither a bug or a germ, and to use a " pure " Rife > > device to handle it would be to make a false assumption. > > Possibly, pure Rife devices could be used against MS > > for their " other " benefit, the one most Rifers don't > > like to talk about, and the one Aubrey, in his brilliant > > essay, referred to as the " mystery " Rife effect. > > > > MS is a medical monster. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 read www. cavitat.com on the dental issue ,root canals, amalgoms and cavations. > > Bob, > > I'm surprised you would make a cut-and-dry statement that MS is not a bug nor a germ, especially when there are health professionals who have been stuying it for years and years that think that it is " probably " caused by infection? In other words, they don't know for sure. Please tell me how you know that. > > Based on my research, in my opinion, MS is just a label for a bunch of symptoms of unknown origin. Causes can be various - infection, heavy metal or other environmental toxicity, etc. > > Thanks, > > > Comm Central wrote: > MS is neither a bug or a germ, and to use a " pure " Rife > device to handle it would be to make a false assumption. > Possibly, pure Rife devices could be used against MS > for their " other " benefit, the one most Rifers don't > like to talk about, and the one Aubrey, in his brilliant > essay, referred to as the " mystery " Rife effect. > > MS is a medical monster. While people on > this board have been offering anectodal > chitchat, there are very few documented > cases of MS reversal, under medical > supervision. Those that do exist are > often traced back to the ARE clinic, which > has, over several decades, been using > the Edgar Cayce remedies as practiced > by medical doctors: > http://www.arizonanewage.com/body/areclinic.htm > > A first person story about this approach and MS > can be found at : > http://members.tripod.com/~dudley_delany/index-111.html > > The frequency device used in the treatment of > MS is not a Rife device but it does use > frequency and current, albeit low. Plans > for its deign are freely given at the URL above. > To my knowldge the only person making > these devices for sale can be reached > at cayceconcepts@... (assuming > you dont just follow the plans and build > your own) > > Hope this helps > > Bob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2003 Report Share Posted May 14, 2003 -my daughter was diagnosed w/ms for years, but no one looked for Lyme, yet, she had the telling rash 27 years ago, misdiagnosed. There are few Drs who know how to diagnose Lyme, and even fewer labs. I was thankful that I found out her MS was a bug, and yes, Rife is helping, as she was almost blind, and close to the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2003 Report Share Posted May 14, 2003 Yes, Herpes 6 was a co-infection of her (my daughters) compromised immune system. With Lyme, much the same testing is done as is done with Aides. The co infections take out white and red blood cells. MS/CFS/FM/Lupis/parkinsons/Gulf/mono, have all been found to have a Lymes bug in some folks. At a lecture by Dr Masters yesterday, this Gulf war similarity was brought up. We are Lucky, we have 3 Doctors that are Lyme Literate, some states do not have any! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2003 Report Share Posted May 14, 2003 That's really a typical story. Unfortunately, doctors are not only uninformed about lyme, but misinformed. How long has your daughter been Rifing? Is she on antibiotics as well? E. >-my daughter was diagnosed w/ms for years, but no one looked for >Lyme, yet, she had the telling rash 27 years ago, misdiagnosed. >There are few Drs who know how to diagnose Lyme, and even fewer >labs. I was thankful that I found out her MS was a bug, and yes, >Rife is helping, as she was almost blind, and close to the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Hi Dick, I don't much about MS and I haven't researched the biochemistry but here are a couple of ideas to throw into the pot! I don't think you need to use anything to facilitate crossing the blood brain barrier, Methylcobalamin seems to cross by itself if needed without any problems. I started using it a while back for chronic insomnia and it works wonders just on its own. I can't find any specific chemotaxonomy on Betony so I can't really comment on that. One thing that might be worth trying (with caution) is Shepherds Purse (Capsella Bursa Pastoris) because it contains numerous cholingeric agents that improve nerve transmission and muscle tone. I'm very undercertain about the Hyaluronidase. My own personal opinion would be that I would think that INCREASED Hyaluronic acid would be beneficial in auto immune conditions, so on that basis Hyaluronidase (which breaks down Hyaluronic acid) would seem to be the exact opposite of what is required! But like I said, I don't know for certain, it's a just a generic opinion without having studied the detailed biochemical pathways. What I would suggest is to try the Methylcobalamin on some patients WITHOUT the Hyaluronidase and see if there is any difference between those and a group WITH the enzyme. If the results for the " without " group improve significantly then it might be worth trying supplemental Hyaluronic acid instead. Finally you might also want to add B6, Folic Acid and Manganese supplementation to the regime to facilitate the metabolic pathways of Methylcobalamin and Homocysteine reversal. Best wishes Aubrey > Hi Aubrey, > > I am using 5000 mg with MS patients. The herb wood betony or the enzyme > hyaluronidase is used to carry it across the blood-brain barrier. Any ideas > on that issue? > > Dick http://www.royalrife.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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