Re: aranizers produce EMF fields (was: Colds/Influenza/SARS - air purifier)

[Guest guest]

I would agree that they emit magnetic fields.

The Aranjecter has both an electric motor and a HV

transformer. Stainless steel case is not a good magnetic

shield. Otherwise, they are excellent products: I'm a dealer.

Fred Walter wrote:

> " Nina Silver " <ninas@b...> wrote:

> > Please see my website to learn more about ozone therapy.

>

> http://www.drninasilver.com/default.asp?contentID=598 & toplevel=598

>

> You state that Aranizers produce ozine/ions

> " without creating harmful electromagnetic radiation " .

>

> This isn't true. I've used a Trifield Broadband Meter and

> measured the magnetic field strength around my SS-4X and

> my Aran-jecter. I posted an article about the Aran-jecter

> a while back. I never got around to posting an article

> on my SS-4X, so I don't have the figures for my SS-4X handy,

> but I assume the EMF fields produced are similar.

>

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyplus/message/31928

>

> :From: " Fred Walter <canadian_fred@y...> " <canadian_fred@y...>

> :Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 1:38 pm

> :Subject: aran-jecter and EMF

> :

> :I have a broadband Trifield meter:

> :http://www.trifield.com/broadband.htm

> :

> :I used it to check out my aran-jecter when it was running.

> :

> :When put right on top of my aran-jecter, my Trifield meter measures

> :0 on the electric setting and on the radio/microwave setting.

> :

> :However, when my meter is on the 0.2-100 milligauss setting,

> :it goes off the scale when I get too close to my aran-jecter.

> :My meter reads acceptable levels (less than 3 milligauss)

> :around 2'-3' away from the unit and practically 0 milligauss

> :when you are > 5' away from the unit.

> :

> :If you are sensitive to EMF fields then you probably don't want

> :to be sitting right beside your aran-jecter when it is on.

> :

> :I don't recall ever testing my aranizer SS-4X but I'm willing

> :to bet it has a similar strength magnetic field around it.

> :So the same cavet applies - have it at least 5' away from you

> :when it is on, if you are sensitive to EMF.

>

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[Guest guest]

aranizers produce EMF fields (was: Colds/Influenza/SARS - air

purifier)

> You state that Aranizers produce ozine/ions

> " without creating harmful electromagnetic radiation " .

>

> This isn't true. I've used a Trifield Broadband Meter and

> measured the magnetic field strength around my SS-4X and

> my Aran-jecter. I posted an article about the Aran-jecter

> a while back. I never got around to posting an article

> on my SS-4X, so I don't have the figures for my SS-4X handy,

> but I assume the EMF fields produced are similar.

> :

> :When put right on top of my aran-jecter, my Trifield meter measures

> :0 on the electric setting and on the radio/microwave setting.

> :

> :However, when my meter is on the 0.2-100 milligauss setting,

> :it goes off the scale when I get too close to my aran-jecter.

> :My meter reads acceptable levels (less than 3 milligauss)

> :around 2'-3' away from the unit and practically 0 milligauss

> :when you are > 5' away from the unit.

> :

> :If you are sensitive to EMF fields then you probably don't want

> :to be sitting right beside your aran-jecter when it is on.

> :

> :I don't recall ever testing my aranizer SS-4X but I'm willing

> :to bet it has a similar strength magnetic field around it.

> :So the same cavet applies - have it at least 5' away from you

> :when it is on, if you are sensitive to EMF.

This is important, Fred. Thank you for letting me know this about the

aran-jecter. However, I would *not* assume that just because one piece of

equipment emits EMF, that all the equipment does this.

The information I have about the Aranizers on my website (NOT the excerpt on

ozone from my book, which is to educate rather than sell equipment) is from the

manufacturer. I trusted his information and never asked for corroboration. It's

good to know that there is a " watchdog " like you who is willing to take the time

to conduct tests.

I will call the manufacturer and ask him about this. Thanks again.

Nina

Nina Silver, Ph.D.

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Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*

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[Guest guest]

<keith@m...> wrote:

> The Aranjecter has both an electric motor and a HV

> transformer. Stainless steel case is not a good magnetic

> shield. Otherwise, they are excellent products: I'm a dealer.

Have you tried getting the output of the aran-jecter tested?

Aranizer's literature says something that translates to > 40 gamma

output of " aran " (O3+O4+O5+...). However the only available test

equipment (that I know of) tests O3 (and not O4, etc).

What those of us with Aran-jecters really need to know is

the ozone (O3) output, so we can determine the duration time

for the different treatment techniques for which it can be used.

[Guest guest]

" Nina Silver " <ninas@b...> wrote:

> Thank you for letting me know this about the aran-jecter.

> However, I would *not* assume that just because one piece

> of equipment emits EMF, that all the equipment does this.

All transformers emit EMF. It's intrinsic to them.

All aranizers have transformers in them.

The aran-jecter, and the SS-seriers of aranizers do not have

any special EMF shielding. I suspect that all currently sold

ozone air purifiers don't have any special EMF shielding

(because if they did, it would be a selling feature).

All aranizers will emit EMF. This is not an assumption.

All equipment (eg. computer monitors, TVs, etc) that has

a transformer in it will emit EMF, unless that equipment

has special shielding.

For example, computer monitors are designed so that

a person sitting right in front of the monitor,

at a minimal distance away from it,

will get at most a neglible amount of EMF.

I found this to be the case when I tested a bunch of

computer monitors at work. HOWEVER, I found that there

was a strong magnetic field extending out on the right side

of every monitor that I tested at work.

So the shielding on computer monitors isn't perfect,

but is adequate for people who use them as expected,

by sitting in front of them, and not beside them.

When it comes devices with transformers, and EMF,

the questions are, how strong is the magnetic field produced,

and how far away do you have to be from the device

to get a neglible exposure to that magnetic field.

I didn't give the figures for my SS-4X because

I didn't bother writing them down when I checked it out.

As soon as I bring my Trifield meter in to work,

I'll check out my SS-4X. (I keep my SS-4X at work

because one of my co-workers has a hygiene problem,

PLUS he stores his kitty litter box in his clothes closet,

and he doesn't change the kitty litter often enough,

and neither myself, nor HR, can get him to bathe more often,

or wash his clothes more often, or change his kitty litter

more often, and they won't fire him for stinking.)

> The information I have about the Aranizers on my website (...)

> is from the manufacturer. I trusted his information and never

> asked for corroboration.

I like Aranizers, but I don't trust the manufacturer's

'aran' output figures, because the test equipment commercially

available can only measure O3 output, not 'aran' (O3+O4+O5+...).

I suspect that his output figures are theoretical,

and not based on any empirical measurement.

I also think that company is having growing pains,

based on some of my experiences, and the experiences of others.

> It's good to know that there is a " watchdog " like you who

> is willing to take the time to conduct tests.

I'm testing the equipment for my own benefit, and reporting

my results. I just wish more people would do the same.

I know that there are a bunch of people with Trifield meters,

purchased a while ago for testing the output of Bare/Rife devices.

But it seems as if most people who experiment with Bare/Rife

devices don't experiment with ozone generators (and vica-versa).

[Guest guest]

I've measured the magnetic field around my SS-4X using my

Trifield Broadband meter.

The magnetic field strengh varies as you adjust the output level.

It is also stronger on the sides of the unit then at the front/back.

I used the 0.2-100 milligauss range on my meter.

With the output turned to maximum on my SS-4X,

my meter pegs (> 100 milligauss) when I get to within

a few inches of the SS-4X. My meter measures around

3 milligauss at ~3' away from the sides of the unit,

3 milligauss at ~2' away from the front/back of the unit,

~0 milligauss at >= ~5' away from the sides of the unit,

~0 milligauss at >= ~4' away from the front/back of the unit.

If I turn output on my SS-4X up about halfway,

so that the white marking on the output-knob points straight up,

my meter pegs (> 100 milligauss) when I get to within

a few inches of the SS-4X. My meter measures around

3 milligauss at ~2' away from the sides of the unit,

3 milligauss at ~1.5' away from the front/back of the unit,

~0 milligauss at >= ~4' away from the sides of the unit,

~0 milligauss at >= ~3' away from the front/back of the unit.

People who are sensitive to EMF, and weak magnetic fields

pulsing at 60 Hz, should be at least 5' away from Aranizers,

and Aran-jecters, when they are running.