Guest guest Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 We give him this enzyme everyday with each meal and snack...... 1 capsule...... We are working towards 100% GFCF - and this has helped us greatly. We can tell when we forget to give the enzyme..... it really helps our son digest food - he eats more at once - and doesn't snack all day. I guess by it helping to digest the food properly - doesn't need to eat all day.... For us the enzyme works....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 FYI: If you live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, Healthy Approach Market in Colleyville carries Kirkman products. 500 State Highway 121 Colleyville, TX. I found this out at a support group meeting. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 No, Houston NI does not offer trials. If the Kirkman brand does not work - try the Houstons. We did not see a difference with the Kirkmans but I have heard the same for the Houston brand for other kids. I would suggest reading the FILES section of the enzyme and autism group at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/enzymesandautism It is full of information (ideas on how to administer, how to get them approved to administer at school, etc..). There are some personal accounts too. I think the list is more Houston oriented though -- but both products are similar. Both companies will talk to you about them to help you get started correctly. We did not try a deviation from the diet for 3 months but others have done so sooner. It all depends on your child. One of the problems with Houston enzymes is that you have to take at least 2 different kinds. I have copied and pasted the information from their web site-- " They have four digestive support enzyme products. Peptizyde™ is a multiple protease formulation to assist digestion of casein, gluten, soy, corn, and other food proteins. It is one of the highest DPP IV peptidase-containing products available. HN-Zyme Prime is a formulation of ten enzymes to assist digestion of carbohydrates, fats, starches, fibers and phenolic foods. No-Fenol is designed to help assimilate phenolic foods. It is also helpful with vegetarian diets. " ... If the regular Peptizyde does not work you can try AFP Peptizyde™ -- " is the same high DPP IV formulation as original Peptizyde™ except that papain has been removed and another protease added. Same effective product but without the papain odor. Better for those sensitive to fruit-based enzyme products. " If you are truly GFCF then the Pep. should not be a big deal, BUT if you are not, your child may go through withdrawals from the peptide highs if you introduce a whole Pep capsule too soon. We started small and worked our way up to 1 each of Pep and Zyme and 1/4 - 1/2 No Fenol a meal. We only give the ones that are designed for the food I am serving. If I am giving fruit for a snack, I may only do some of a No Fenol. If I am doing Ruffles potato chips I only do a Zyme with a small dash of Pep. They only come in capsules but are easy to open and reseal. There are quiet a few people on this list who have tried enzymes and may still be using them in case you want more opinions. Hope the opinions help, Theresa I would recommend trying a trial of the Kirkmans (they will send you a trial amount for $3.00s so that you can see if this works). We know families using Kirkman enzymes and families using Houston's enzymes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 We have used both Kirkman's and Houston's. We are still using some of Houston's, but have started a new kind with good results. Our son responded very well to a Secretin study he was involved in. I then saw some enzyme products that contain Pancreas enzymes. He showed a similar, but lesser, effect that the Secretin gave. On these new enzymes he will get a little flushing of his cheeks (like Secretin did) and better bowl movements. I am sold on these things. There are quite a few companies that make them. What we have now is Schiff Enzymall, which can be ordered from the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 My son also showed digestion improvement while part of the secretin study. His stomach is still so much better than it used to be. He did the study about 18 mos ago and has mainted it. I am now considering the transdermal secretin. In a message dated 12/29/02 9:14:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, kevnhou@... writes: > Subj: Re: Re: Kirkman's Enzymes > Date: 12/29/02 9:14:22 PM Pacific Standard Time > From: <A HREF= " mailto:kevnhou@... " >kevnhou@...</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF= " mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy " >Texas-Autism-Advocacy@yahoog\ roups.com</A> > To: <A HREF= " mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy " >Texas-Autism-Advocacy@yahoog\ roups.com</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > We have used both Kirkman's and Houston's. We are still using some of > Houston's, but have started a new kind with good results. Our son > responded > very well to a Secretin study he was involved in. I then saw some enzyme > products that contain Pancreas enzymes. He showed a similar, but lesser, > effect that the Secretin gave. On these new enzymes he will get a little > flushing of his cheeks (like Secretin did) and better bowl movements. I am > > sold on these things. There are quite a few companies that make them. > What > we have now is Schiff Enzymall, which can be ordered from the Internet. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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