Re: effect of consuming mastitic = bitter milk

November 10, 2004

Hello folks,

We just got two nubian does that have milk and are learning how to milk

them. I have been able to get milk twice a day, not without a lot of goaty

complaining. I have seen a lot of different advice as to the procedure of

santination though. I know that after the milk is in the clean bucket it

should be strained and chilled quickly. My question is what and how should

I clean the teats with before and after milking? I remember a reference

from someplace in the past that something is applied to the teat after

milking helps the orifice to close up and prevent mastitis. I don't want my

goats getting the dreaded mastitis, especially because I feel I might not

have enough experience to catch it early.

Layla

>

>Reply-To: RawDairy

>To: RawDairy

>Subject: effect of consuming mastitic = bitter milk

>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:24:28 -0000

>

>As for drinking mastitic milk, I did drink a bit of the batches we

>were getting. It was drinkable, but definitely unpleasant,with a

>bitter aftertaste. I did not get sick after consuming, say, about a

>quart total over a few days, in separate batches.

>

>Because it bothered me to throw it out, I just let it sit there in

>the fridge. Finally about two weeks later I put it out. It had not

>soured, neither did the cream rise, as usual.

>

>Perhaps, when it does occur, such milk could be used to make

>buttermilk paint / glue / soap?

>

>Gordon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> From: " Bekki Kirby " <bekkikirby@s...>

>Date: Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:43 pm

>Subject: Re: bitter milk

>I'm finally jumping in on this to cause a little trouble... why would

>mastitic milk be unsafe to drink? It isn't a problem with human

>mothers and human babies... no matter what doctors thought 20 years

>ago. (They used to advise " pump and dump " ) Is it a cross-species

>issue? Or is it simply assumed to be a problem with no evidence

>behind it?

>

>Bekki in SC

>

November 10, 2004

I'm probably the only person I know that uses moisturizing wash to clean the teats with (LOL).

You need to visit Hoagger Supply (for goats, but I have cattle and they had what I needed). I got their small milk strainer and filters and they work great. There are also recognized teat washes and teat dips. I not only use teat dip after each milking, but I have a homeopathic spray that has prevented mastitis now for 2 years. It gets pretty mucky out here in the winter till I can have someone come in with a tractor and clean things up. I also have a drying off homeopathic spray that works great. I get the sprays from New Zealand and with the rate of exchange they are not expensive at all and well worth the wait.

If you have a farm supply near you or a dairy supply place, you can get their teat dips and washes from them. A small bucket with hot water and any kind of liquid soap works great for a wash. You can even get the anti bacterial type. It's the dip after that is sooooo important.

K.C.

RE: effect of consuming mastitic = bitter milk

I clean the teats with before and after milking? I remember a reference from someplace in the past that something is applied to the teat after milking helps the orifice to close up and prevent mastitis. I don't want my goats getting the dreaded mastitis, especially because I feel I might not have enough experience to catch it early.

November 10, 2004

I'm probably the only person I know that uses moisturizing wash to clean the teats with (LOL).

You need to visit Hoagger Supply (for goats, but I have cattle and they had what I needed). I got their small milk strainer and filters and they work great. There are also recognized teat washes and teat dips. I not only use teat dip after each milking, but I have a homeopathic spray that has prevented mastitis now for 2 years. It gets pretty mucky out here in the winter till I can have someone come in with a tractor and clean things up. I also have a drying off homeopathic spray that works great. I get the sprays from New Zealand and with the rate of exchange they are not expensive at all and well worth the wait.

If you have a farm supply near you or a dairy supply place, you can get their teat dips and washes from them. A small bucket with hot water and any kind of liquid soap works great for a wash. You can even get the anti bacterial type. It's the dip after that is sooooo important.

K.C.

RE: effect of consuming mastitic = bitter milk

I clean the teats with before and after milking? I remember a reference from someplace in the past that something is applied to the teat after milking helps the orifice to close up and prevent mastitis. I don't want my goats getting the dreaded mastitis, especially because I feel I might not have enough experience to catch it early.

November 10, 2004

Thank you for your response! Could you tell me the name of the homeopathic

sprays and where you order them from? I might join you in the moisturizing

wash idea.

>

>Reply-To: RawDairy

>To: <RawDairy >

>Subject: Re: effect of consuming mastitic = bitter milk

>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:34:11 -0700

>

>I'm probably the only person I know that uses moisturizing wash to clean

>the teats with (LOL).

>

>You need to visit Hoagger Supply (for goats, but I have cattle and they had

>what I needed). I got their small milk strainer and filters and they work

>great. There are also recognized teat washes and teat dips. I not only

>use teat dip after each milking, but I have a homeopathic spray that has

>prevented mastitis now for 2 years. It gets pretty mucky out here in the

>winter till I can have someone come in with a tractor and clean things up.

>I also have a drying off homeopathic spray that works great. I get the

>sprays from New Zealand and with the rate of exchange they are not

>expensive at all and well worth the wait.

>

>If you have a farm supply near you or a dairy supply place, you can get

>their teat dips and washes from them. A small bucket with hot water and

>any kind of liquid soap works great for a wash. You can even get the anti

>bacterial type. It's the dip after that is sooooo important.

>

>K.C.

> RE: effect of consuming mastitic = bitter milk

>

> I clean the teats with before and after milking? I remember a reference

> from someplace in the past that something is applied to the teat after

> milking helps the orifice to close up and prevent mastitis. I don't

>want my

> goats getting the dreaded mastitis, especially because I feel I might

>not

> have enough experience to catch it early.

>

November 10, 2004