Intro

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Joan

>Still in a bit of a shock. I'm never sick, there is no asthma in my

>family--this hit me out of the blue.

I already have a heap of health problems so the SHOCK was multiply-fold

thinking how could I add something else already to the heap! What will be

different, how will I cope and soooooo on.

>If I could ask a few more questions...

>Is there any hope that I won't need to take meds for the rest of my

>life? (That's one thing in my long list of questions for the next doc

>appt.)

You sound like you are an adult.......i gather from my research that you

will probably be taking the meds for the rest of your life. Because they

are a preventive - but you may be able to downgrade the amount when there

are better times or upgrade when a virus/cold/flu hits the system. Which in

my opinion are pretty hard to avoid unless you wanna lock yourself away in

a glass bubble for the rest of your like :-)

>Is there anything I can do (vitamins, alternative treatments, etc.) to

>decrease my needs for meds?

I think because there are recognised meds that do help etc that taking

anything else won't necessarily help asthma. There is a breathing programme

called Butekyo [?sp] but I think it also recommends you still take the

preventative. Here in NZ it's very expensive to do whereas some meds are

covered under the Community Service card system depending on your financial

situation.

>Has anyone here used Singulair while pregnant? (I'm not...now.) Are

>there meds that are truely safe to use during pregnancy?

oops you must be older - if you are thinking/are pregnant :-) however can't

help you here on this matter as I'm past this

>I'm having a hard time accepting that I have asthma--I know it's not

>the end of the world, but some days it feels like it is.

That's IT......it's not the end of the world however there has to be

changes to adapt to the new set of rules as such. I'm still muddling along

trying my best to do what they suggest - finding it hard to work with the

regime set up with the inhalers/Peak Flow Meter and today decided to try

and keep a day2day diary of things including weather, what I did i.e.

cleaning, outing, driving etc. Yesterday I did something really very silly

- emptied the vacuum cleaner without thinking - dust everywhere and later I

paid the breathing price with tight chest/tickle throat so Ventolin

reliever to the fore which in turn had the Peak Flow reading up higher than

it's been before so I checked previous high days and noticed Ventolin was

in the picture :-)

who is quite aware that a mask should be on for dusty things.......but it

was just habit that hit with the cleaner!

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Hi kathy: I will not disclose my distributors. Its just not done. These are professional masks use ny the medical folks that are completely risjk free to what they are supposed todo. Protect the individual from airborne infection and particles up to .05 or one half of one micron in size. Chemtrail stuff is 5.0 microns in size or alittle smaller. I do not know what air borne virus's etc. These are worn by proffessions in infected areas of high risk.

Walt

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At 12:38 27/02/2004, you wrote:>where you get the masks?>what kind are there?The ones I use for short term dust aspects are from my local chemist........look like a soft paper with elastic to put over your ears.......there is also another type that has a minor wire over the nose which house painters use again with elastic.And then I have a much more serious mask which I bought from a Workplace type company which has filters on it - fits over my head with straps to hold it on. That is for when I'm mixing dye powder which is part of my life :-) abet now hobby.You could also create yourself a mask from a muslin/gauze square with ties that is the way they did many years ago and I believe they are still available as when they show TV coverage of Asians wearing masks against the SARS flu thing many were wearing them. That also means you could wash them as needed whereas the minor paper type masks are meant to be disposable - in fact they seem to tear when that is time.You might not create much dust but if you are at least aware that dust is potential trigger then when you go to do something like vacuum/sweep or put away a heap of clean clothes that kinda of swish the air/dust particles about then you should try to remember that a mask will save a lot of problems. in the North Island of New Zealandmailto:dseton@...

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But can you send them to SCOTLAND Walt????

Lynn

-- Re: Intro

Hi kathy: I will not disclose my distributors. Its just not done. These are professional masks use ny the medical folks that are completely risjk free to what they are supposed todo. Protect the individual from airborne infection and particles up to .05 or one half of one micron in size. Chemtrail stuff is 5.0 microns in size or alittle smaller. I do not know what air borne virus's etc. These are worn by proffessions in infected areas of high risk.

Walt

Re: Intro

At 12:38 27/02/2004, you wrote:>where you get the masks?>what kind are there?The ones I use for short term dust aspects are from my local chemist........look like a soft paper with elastic to put over your ears.......there is also another type that has a minor wire over the nose which house painters use again with elastic.And then I have a much more serious mask which I bought from a Workplace type company which has filters on it - fits over my head with straps to hold it on. That is for when I'm mixing dye powder which is part of my life :-) abet now hobby.You could also create yourself a mask from a muslin/gauze square with ties that is the way they did many years ago and I believe they are still available as when they show TV coverage of Asians wearing masks against the SARS flu thing many were wearing them. That also means you could wash them as needed whereas the minor paper type masks are meant to be disposable - in fact they seem to tear when that is time.You might not create much dust but if you are at least aware that dust is potential trigger then when you go to do something like vacuum/sweep or put away a heap of clean clothes that kinda of swish the air/dust particles about then you should try to remember that a mask will save a lot of problems. in the North Island of New Zealandmailto:dseton@...

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More on Masks from Slate:

Do Surgical Masks Stop SARS?

By Jon Cohen

Posted Monday, April 7, 2003, at 2:41 PM PT

Masks: a poor prophylactic

The dramatic photos of surgical-masked people walking the streets of

Asian cities hit by severe acute respiratory syndrome pose the question:

Do the masks offer them any meaningful protection against the disease?

Viruses, including the coronavirus that scientists believe may be the

cause of SARS, are so tiny that they can easily pass through such

barriers. Several studies even have shown that surgical masks fail to

prevent transmission of the much larger mycobacterium tuberculosis,

which causes TB. While the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and

Prevention advises that people who have SARS wear these masks, they do

not even recommend them for people in contact with those patients unless

the infected person can't wear one. Wearing surgical masks outdoors,

where virus-laden particles easily disperse, has even less value.

CDC does advise health-care workers working with SARS patients to wear a

special mask called an N-95 respirator. But even these masks offer

limited protection from coronaviruses. The name of the mask says it all.

The " 95 " means the mask, if properly fitted—and that " fit factor "

presents a big if—can filter out particles down to .3 microns 95 percent

of the time. (A human hair is roughly 100 microns in diameter.) Human

coronaviruses measure between .1 and .2 microns, which is one to two

times below the cutoff.

Continue Article The University of Cincinnati's Sergey Grinshpun has

studied N-95 respirators and says it all comes down to " collection

efficiency. " N-95s made by different manufacturers have different

collection efficiencies below the .3 cutoff. In other words, one

company's mask, if properly fitted, might filter out 92 percent of

coronaviruses, while another might catch only 50 percent.

" It seems to offer better protection than nothing, " Grinshpun says. And

he notes that viruses often travel on top of larger carrier

molecules—like globs of mucus—making it easier to filter them. That's

why CDC Director Gerberding last week noted that covering your

face with a T-shirt might help if you come in close contact with an

infected person.

To efficiently protect yourself from coronaviruses, you would need to

wear a full-faced mask with a high-efficiency particle air filter. But

such HEPA filter masks cause what Grinshpun calls " quite a discomfort "

in short order.

Any mask clearly wards off one bug: fear. Confoundingly, the sight of so

many people wearing masks also spreads fear. And there's no measure of

collection efficiency or fit factors that can help humans out of that

pickle. >>

Google for surgical supply houses an d call them inquiring about their

products.

I make jewelry and the fumes from soldering, as well as the dust from

polishing are very hard for me and my asthma.

I got a painters mask ( hard plastic with paper insert and make my own

inserts by cutting them from coffeefilter, two of them , one with a

drop of ttee oil. It's done well for me.

Over this mask I wear a bandana, so it's anchored well and it also keeps

my glasses from fogging up, something ordinary masls do.

C-M

[Guest guest]

At 12:38 27/02/2004, you wrote:

>where you get the masks?

>what kind are there?

The ones I use for short term dust aspects are from my local

chemist........look like a soft paper with elastic to put over your

ears.......there is also another type that has a minor wire over the nose

which house painters use again with elastic.

And then I have a much more serious mask which I bought from a Workplace

type company which has filters on it - fits over my head with straps to

hold it on. That is for when I'm mixing dye powder which is part of my life

:-) abet now hobby.

You could also create yourself a mask from a muslin/gauze square with ties

that is the way they did many years ago and I believe they are still

available as when they show TV coverage of Asians wearing masks against the

SARS flu thing many were wearing them. That also means you could wash them

as needed whereas the minor paper type masks are meant to be disposable -

in fact they seem to tear when that is time.

You might not create much dust but if you are at least aware that dust is

potential trigger then when you go to do something like vacuum/sweep or put

away a heap of clean clothes that kinda of swish the air/dust particles

about then you should try to remember that a mask will save a lot of problems.

in the North Island of New Zealand

mailto:dseton@...

[Guest guest]

At 12:38 27/02/2004, you wrote:

>where you get the masks?

>what kind are there?

The ones I use for short term dust aspects are from my local

chemist........look like a soft paper with elastic to put over your

ears.......there is also another type that has a minor wire over the nose

which house painters use again with elastic.

And then I have a much more serious mask which I bought from a Workplace

type company which has filters on it - fits over my head with straps to

hold it on. That is for when I'm mixing dye powder which is part of my life

:-) abet now hobby.

You could also create yourself a mask from a muslin/gauze square with ties

that is the way they did many years ago and I believe they are still

available as when they show TV coverage of Asians wearing masks against the

SARS flu thing many were wearing them. That also means you could wash them

as needed whereas the minor paper type masks are meant to be disposable -

in fact they seem to tear when that is time.

You might not create much dust but if you are at least aware that dust is

potential trigger then when you go to do something like vacuum/sweep or put

away a heap of clean clothes that kinda of swish the air/dust particles

about then you should try to remember that a mask will save a lot of problems.

in the North Island of New Zealand

mailto:dseton@...

[Guest guest]

Hi : These Masks are a MUST to wear on Chemtrail spray days. Because alot of the stuff in Chemtrails is DEADLY to mammals. The NWO bunch cares little about howmany die from what they do. Believe me they are the cause of about all deaths worldwide oneway or the other. Actually they want the world population reduced to less than 1 billion. The reason I do not tell sources is i'm thinking of starting a survivial business for people aware of what's going on that want to survive the mass killings. Sources or lack of sources can made or break a new upstart business. These are just like surgical masks with high quality filtration that all proffessionals wear.

Walt

Re: Intro

Walt wrote:>Hi kathy: I will not disclose my distributors. Its just not done. These >are professional masks use ny the medical folks that are completely risjk >free to what they are supposed todo. Protect the individual from airborne >infection and particles up to .05 or one half of one micron in size. >Chemtrail stuff is 5.0 microns in size or alittle smaller. I do not know >what air borne virus's etc. These are worn by proffessions in infected >areas of high risk.I'm not actually concerned about wearing a mask as such.......more about remembering that when I'm going to do something that could create a little more dust than what is already invisibly floating around to wear something tooooo keep over and above average dust from entering my systemI already have the industrial mask with filters because I used to work with fine powder in my previous business life. I have been classed as Invalid for many years with some other serious health issues but I do from time to time like to dabble/hobby like.And as someone else pointed out a quick online search will show other masks that you can wear for whatever reason - whether for dust or for germs as in the SARS problem. And whether they protect or not is I think really to do with peoples' attitudes over getting said germs. I think basically you have to think past the germs in many cases and have good hygiene system in place like handwashing.These are my opinions gleaned from my commonsense lessons YMMVin NZ where is raining.......where has summer gone to!

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Funny Cmaria: The masks I get filter out down to .05 micron. Most all

proffessional medical and hospital folks use them. The article is pure BS.

Like asking the killer what helps to prevent you from killig me, and

expecting a truthful reply when they are the ones wanting alot of us to die?

It amazes me the amount of ignorance outthere in people who have NOT figured

out what is really going on and why. The VERY last place I'd seek advice or

info on the truth about anything is from any agency connected to the

government. Sorry that articule is pure BS.

It might interested you to know even doctors who are AMA certified will

refuse any treatment that cures a person. I know I hit that wall of denial,

and refusal on a constant basis. Somuch so I now know the real game and

easily distinguish the good guys versus the bad. The good guys are healing

people and under constant attack by those killing people the AMA doctors.

Walt

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> More on Masks from Slate:

> Do Surgical Masks Stop SARS?

> By Jon Cohen

> Posted Monday, April 7, 2003, at 2:41 PM PT

>

> Masks: a poor prophylactic

> The dramatic photos of surgical-masked people walking the streets of

> Asian cities hit by severe acute respiratory syndrome pose the question:

> Do the masks offer them any meaningful protection against the disease?

>

> Viruses, including the coronavirus that scientists believe may be the

> cause of SARS, are so tiny that they can easily pass through such

> barriers. Several studies even have shown that surgical masks fail to

> prevent transmission of the much larger mycobacterium tuberculosis,

> which causes TB. While the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and

> Prevention advises that people who have SARS wear these masks, they do

> not even recommend them for people in contact with those patients unless

> the infected person can't wear one. Wearing surgical masks outdoors,

> where virus-laden particles easily disperse, has even less value.

>

> CDC does advise health-care workers working with SARS patients to wear a

> special mask called an N-95 respirator. But even these masks offer

> limited protection from coronaviruses. The name of the mask says it all.

> The " 95 " means the mask, if properly fitted—and that " fit factor "

> presents a big if—can filter out particles down to .3 microns 95 percent

> of the time. (A human hair is roughly 100 microns in diameter.) Human

> coronaviruses measure between .1 and .2 microns, which is one to two

> times below the cutoff.

>

> Continue Article The University of Cincinnati's Sergey Grinshpun has

> studied N-95 respirators and says it all comes down to " collection

> efficiency. " N-95s made by different manufacturers have different

> collection efficiencies below the .3 cutoff. In other words, one

> company's mask, if properly fitted, might filter out 92 percent of

> coronaviruses, while another might catch only 50 percent.

>

> " It seems to offer better protection than nothing, " Grinshpun says. And

> he notes that viruses often travel on top of larger carrier

> molecules—like globs of mucus—making it easier to filter them. That's

> why CDC Director Gerberding last week noted that covering your

> face with a T-shirt might help if you come in close contact with an

> infected person.

>

> To efficiently protect yourself from coronaviruses, you would need to

> wear a full-faced mask with a high-efficiency particle air filter. But

> such HEPA filter masks cause what Grinshpun calls " quite a discomfort "

> in short order.

>

> Any mask clearly wards off one bug: fear. Confoundingly, the sight of so

> many people wearing masks also spreads fear. And there's no measure of

> collection efficiency or fit factors that can help humans out of that

> pickle. >>

>

>

>

> Google for surgical supply houses an d call them inquiring about their

> products.

>

> I make jewelry and the fumes from soldering, as well as the dust from

> polishing are very hard for me and my asthma.

> I got a painters mask ( hard plastic with paper insert and make my own

> inserts by cutting them from coffeefilter, two of them , one with a

> drop of ttee oil. It's done well for me.

> Over this mask I wear a bandana, so it's anchored well and it also keeps

> my glasses from fogging up, something ordinary masls do.

> C-M

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Yup!

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At 12:38 27/02/2004, you wrote:>where you get the masks?>what kind are there?The ones I use for short term dust aspects are from my local chemist........look like a soft paper with elastic to put over your ears.......there is also another type that has a minor wire over the nose which house painters use again with elastic.And then I have a much more serious mask which I bought from a Workplace type company which has filters on it - fits over my head with straps to hold it on. That is for when I'm mixing dye powder which is part of my life :-) abet now hobby.You could also create yourself a mask from a muslin/gauze square with ties that is the way they did many years ago and I believe they are still available as when they show TV coverage of Asians wearing masks against the SARS flu thing many were wearing them. That also means you could wash them as needed whereas the minor paper type masks are meant to be dispo

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Walt wrote:

>Hi kathy: I will not disclose my distributors. Its just not done. These

>are professional masks use ny the medical folks that are completely risjk

>free to what they are supposed todo. Protect the individual from airborne

>infection and particles up to .05 or one half of one micron in size.

>Chemtrail stuff is 5.0 microns in size or alittle smaller. I do not know

>what air borne virus's etc. These are worn by proffessions in infected

>areas of high risk.

I'm not actually concerned about wearing a mask as such.......more about

remembering that when I'm going to do something that could create a little

more dust than what is already invisibly floating around to wear something

tooooo keep over and above average dust from entering my system

I already have the industrial mask with filters because I used to work with

fine powder in my previous business life. I have been classed as Invalid

for many years with some other serious health issues but I do from time to

time like to dabble/hobby like.

And as someone else pointed out a quick online search will show other masks

that you can wear for whatever reason - whether for dust or for germs as in

the SARS problem. And whether they protect or not is I think really to do

with peoples' attitudes over getting said germs. I think basically you

have to think past the germs in many cases and have good hygiene system in

place like handwashing.

These are my opinions gleaned from my commonsense lessons YMMV

in NZ where is raining.......where has summer gone to!

[Guest guest]

Walt,

Surgical masks are worn in hospitals, by staff, more that their own

breath will not contain anything to spread bacteria.

It really goes both ways.

To protect oneself from harmful particles, such as fumes etc. that

contain harmful elements,those are particular masks that are

specialized. Masks that also stop 'wet' matters, such as blood or

droplets from sneezing or coughing..

Go to Google and type in ' surgical masks' , you will find oodles of

sources that sell masks for all kind of purposes. masks approved for the

profession they serve.

Some sites that might interest Walt, for they are 'survival' businesses..

C-M

[Guest guest]

Walt, quit trolling on this message board. You are a complete lunatic

who know nothing about asthma. You don't have and have never had

asthma. You are nothing but a nitwit who likes to jerk peple around.

If you want to impress the folks here with your knowledge, tell us

about the stuff that you do know about. Tell us about the vast array

of tunnels and the Brown's gas and the underground cities and the

human clones and the Chemtrails and the kortrons. Tell us why the

government is trying to kill us. In other words Walt, tell us about

your paranoia.

> >where you get the masks?

> >what kind are there?

>

> The ones I use for short term dust aspects are from my

local

> chemist........look like a soft paper with elastic to put

over your

> ears.......there is also another type that has a minor wire

over the nose

> which house painters use again with elastic.

>

> And then I have a much more serious mask which I bought from

a Workplace

> type company which has filters on it - fits over my head

with straps to

> hold it on. That is for when I'm mixing dye powder which is

part of my life

> :-) abet now hobby.

>

> You could also create yourself a mask from a muslin/gauze

square with ties

> that is the way they did many years ago and I believe they

are still

> available as when they show TV coverage of Asians wearing

masks against the

> SARS flu thing many were wearing them. That also means you

could wash them

> as needed whereas the minor paper type masks are meant to be

dispo

>

>

>

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Walt

>Hi : These Masks are a MUST to wear on Chemtrail spray days. Because

>alot of the stuff in Chemtrails is DEADLY to mammals. The NWO bunch cares

>little about howmany die from what they do. Believe me they are the cause

>of about all deaths worldwide oneway or the other. Actually they want the

>world population reduced to less than 1 billion. The reason I do not tell

>sources is i'm thinking of starting a survivial business for people aware

>of what's going on that want to survive the mass killings. Sources or lack

>of sources can made or break a new upstart business. These are just like

>surgical masks with high quality filtration that all proffessionals wear.

AHA now I can see where you are coming from........I was coming from

household pollution that could be upsetting my asthma not from spray

days......

We were both talking about different things & now I understand why etc.

[Guest guest]

Hi Wildthing: I have access to masks. They come in a box I think of

fifty or twenty five not sure. They filter down to 1.2 of a micron and

thats even smaller then anything in Chemtrails 5 microns or dust 2 to 6

microns floating around in your house. I think they will go for $.50

apiece for a box of  25  $12.50 or fifty $25.00. Havn't got a case

yet so do

I'm interested when you're ready to share.

I found some masks. They're throw aways. They're are for when you're

working in the shop or garage or something like that but I feel better

since I've started wearing them while cleaning or even when I'm in the

same room when someone is cleaning. That's as far as I've came with it

though. Just got them.

HUGS!!!

MARIE

mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis,

right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial,

simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord,

allergies, ezema, lazy eye

Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds

-mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma

[Guest guest]

Hi Wildthing: I have access to masks. They come in a box I think of

fifty or twenty five not sure. They filter down to 1.2 of a micron and

thats even smaller then anything in Chemtrails 5 microns or dust 2 to 6

microns floating around in your house. I think they will go for $.50

apiece for a box of  25  $12.50 or fifty $25.00. Havn't got a case

yet so do

I'm interested when you're ready to share.

I found some masks. They're throw aways. They're are for when you're

working in the shop or garage or something like that but I feel better

since I've started wearing them while cleaning or even when I'm in the

same room when someone is cleaning. That's as far as I've came with it

though. Just got them.

HUGS!!!

MARIE

mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis,

right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial,

simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord,

allergies, ezema, lazy eye

Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds

-mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie: Really money strapped right now trying new tinctures for Asthma. But I will in the near future get back with the supplier. These masks are great the filter down to .05 ,icron and are what top of the line physicians wear for protection. These are not funky look alikes but the real deal.

For your Asthma try "lobolia" tincture. It really get out that deep lung mucous in your lower lungs out and relaxs bronchial tubes spasams in Asthma attacks. I'm enclosing below the purge. But the address in it for tinctures iswhere I get mine. Hugs Back at cha!

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Hi Wildthing: I have access to masks. They come in a box I think offifty or twenty five not sure. They filter down to 1.2 of a micron andthats even smaller then anything in Chemtrails 5 microns or dust 2 to 6microns floating around in your house. I think they will go for $.50apiece for a box of 25 $12.50 or fifty $25.00. Havn't got a caseyet so doI'm interested when you're ready to share.I found some masks. They're throw aways. They're are for when you'reworking in the shop or garage or something like that but I feel bettersince I've started wearing them while cleaning or even when I'm in thesame room when someone is cleaning. That's as far as I've came with itthough. Just got them.HUGS!!!MARIEmother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial,simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord,allergies, ezema, lazy eyeAnastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds-mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie: Really money strapped right now trying new tinctures for Asthma. But I will in the near future get back with the supplier. These masks are great the filter down to .05 ,icron and are what top of the line physicians wear for protection. These are not funky look alikes but the real deal.

For your Asthma try "lobolia" tincture. It really get out that deep lung mucous in your lower lungs out and relaxs bronchial tubes spasams in Asthma attacks. I'm enclosing below the purge. But the address in it for tinctures iswhere I get mine. Hugs Back at cha!

Re: Intro

Hi Wildthing: I have access to masks. They come in a box I think offifty or twenty five not sure. They filter down to 1.2 of a micron andthats even smaller then anything in Chemtrails 5 microns or dust 2 to 6microns floating around in your house. I think they will go for $.50apiece for a box of 25 $12.50 or fifty $25.00. Havn't got a caseyet so doI'm interested when you're ready to share.I found some masks. They're throw aways. They're are for when you'reworking in the shop or garage or something like that but I feel bettersince I've started wearing them while cleaning or even when I'm in thesame room when someone is cleaning. That's as far as I've came with itthough. Just got them.HUGS!!!MARIEmother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial,simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord,allergies, ezema, lazy eyeAnastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds-mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma

[Guest guest]

Name: Bolen

Welcome to the list !

I will bless the Lord at all times; His praise shall continually be in my mouth. Psalm 34:1

I love that verse! )

Koepke

[Guest guest]

Contact at Peaceful Pastures All Natural MeatsNashville, TN areaBeef, chicken, turkey, lamb, pork, duckRaw dairywww.PeacefulPastures.comWe ship nationwide!

Her note read " We have several, cows currently in milk for sale: Jersey, Jersey X's and a rare, Dutch belted. Cows have been AI'd and exposed to a bull, but as they have not been preg checked by a vet, they are NOT selling as "bred." Price $750 and up. Sincere inquiries please. Can email photos. Delivery within 250 miles a consideration, but will be pricey due to fuel prices and our short handed situation.Pleas email me off list if interested. Located an hour east of Nashville. "

She may be able to help you.

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Name: Bolen

e-mail address: livingforJesus@...

City/State: DeFuniak Springs, Florida

No, to the best of my knowledge, raw milk is not available for human consumption in Florida; I understand that you can sell it if you label it ‘pet’ quality, but I have yet to check on that.

The reason I want to join this group is two fold: 1. We have been looking for a Jersey to purchase for our family for about three months and have not been successful. Our county extension agent even said he does not know anyone how owns a ‘family’ milk cow! I figure there are folks out there, I just need to find them and then I thought of the yahoo groups. As I was looking for one that dealt with Jersey, I came across this group and it sounded great. So maybe I will find a cow for sale through this group, but if not, when I get my cow, it sounds like I have access to all of the experts to help me make butter, cheese and yogurt for the first time. 2. In addition to the assistance of making milk products, it will be nice to talk with others about the proper way to handle raw milk. I already know of so many health benefits of raw milk, but I’m sure I will learn more.

in N. Fl

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Welcome! Another good book is The

Good Fat Cookbook … easy reading, good reference book, and a few recipes

as well. I have recently read a little of Nourishing Traditions, and its

addictive!!!! So much info! My dad has Reflux disease, but pretty

much beat that with his diet (The Makers diet) as well as raw goat’s

milk. He is lactose intolerant too, unless it is raw milk … imagine

that! Is the Makers diet the one where you eat “dirt”

pills? If so, he has done that too, with amazing results!

Again Welcome!

Beverly

New Mexico

From: TCW

Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004

4:50 PM

To: RawDairy

Subject: Intro

Hello,

I'm CW and live in Texas.

My email address is boundless@....

I'm interested in joining this list for health

reasons. I learned of it

from another list. I've read The Maker's Diet and

am reading Nourishing

Traditions.

We have food allergies in the family and can't

tolerate cow's milk.

However, I've recently discovered that we can

tolerate raw goat's milk

and have been purchasing it when available from a

local source.

I hope to learn lots from the list and will gladly

contribute what I

can but more than likely not much due to my very

limited knowledge

about raw dairy.

Thanks.

CW

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HI Pam,

I'm a newbie here too.

> My name is Pamela. I live in South Mississippi on 12 acres. I subscribed with

wwacres@d...

> We raise Purebred Nubians with great milk lines and show quality, although we

can

never find time to show them come fair season.

> Here in MS we are allowed to sell raw milk straight off the farm only as long

as we're

milking 9 goats or under..( I am milking 4 this year)...we are not allowed to

advertise or

transport across state lines..so anyone who buys must pick the milk up here..)

I'm glad that you've got some reasonable laws in place so that you can sell your

goat milk.

If there is a WAP group meeting around your place be sure to introduce yourself

and your

willing nubians to 'em. :-)

> My 9 year old daughter had no appitite and was skinny as a rail...no vitamins

I found

helped her...when she started drinking the goats milk her appetite picked up and

she tell's

us she's hungry ALL THE TIME now...(that's a good thing...no more worries about

her) I'm

enjoying reading all the posts and hope to learn tons from everyone here..

> Thanks for allowing me to join the group,

Hey, I'm glad to hear that about your sweetie's appitite increasing after

drinking the goats

milk. I've just started drinking raw goat's milk, and some raw cow milk from

organic

pastures. I've also been adding a raw egg into my breakfast routine. These are

organic

store bought ones, but tomorrow I'm gonna get some fresh eggs from the lady I

get my

goat milk from. She says I'll be able to taste a difference.

Be sure and try some kefir in that goat's milk. :-) The folks here are nice,

and are always

ready to help! Tell us more about yourself, and make yourself at home here. In

other

words......WELCOME!!!

'

Sorry if this is a duplicate, my pc is acting up for some reason.

[Guest guest]

HI Pam,

I'm a newbie here too.

> My name is Pamela. I live in South Mississippi on 12 acres. I subscribed with

wwacres@d...

> We raise Purebred Nubians with great milk lines and show quality, although we

can

never find time to show them come fair season.

> Here in MS we are allowed to sell raw milk straight off the farm only as long

as we're

milking 9 goats or under..( I am milking 4 this year)...we are not allowed to

advertise or

transport across state lines..so anyone who buys must pick the milk up here..)

I'm glad that you've got some reasonable laws in place so that you can sell your

goat milk.

If there is a WAP group meeting around your place be sure to introduce yourself

and your

willing nubians to 'em. :-)

> My 9 year old daughter had no appitite and was skinny as a rail...no vitamins

I found

helped her...when she started drinking the goats milk her appetite picked up and

she tell's

us she's hungry ALL THE TIME now...(that's a good thing...no more worries about

her) I'm

enjoying reading all the posts and hope to learn tons from everyone here..

> Thanks for allowing me to join the group,

Hey, I'm glad to hear that about your sweetie's appitite increasing after

drinking the goats

milk. I've just started drinking raw goat's milk, and some raw cow milk from

organic

pastures. I've also been adding a raw egg into my breakfast routine. These are

organic

store bought ones, but tomorrow I'm gonna get some fresh eggs from the lady I

get my

goat milk from. She says I'll be able to taste a difference.

Be sure and try some kefir in that goat's milk. :-) The folks here are nice,

and are always

ready to help! Tell us more about yourself, and make yourself at home here. In

other

words......WELCOME!!!

'

Sorry if this is a duplicate, my pc is acting up for some reason.

[Guest guest]

Sound like you are well on your way to a healthy life for all of you.

I'm sure you will find lots of good info here.

Aren't Jerseys just the best? I have a mini. Had more, but had to sell them. I'm now rebuilding my herd. I'm sure you will find lots to do with the milk, like making kefir smoothies for the whole family. They are wonderful.

Welcome aboard.

K.C.

Intro

Hello....We are Dave & Michele @ dmblessings@... in Lee County, IllinoisWe are on a 13 acre farmette.Raw milk is only sold thru cow shares in Illinois from what we know.We had learned about raw milk from reading the book The Maker's Diet. Fromthere we got on the internet to research about raw milk. We went toRawMilk.com and found a local farm that was selling shares. We purchased ashare and started drinking raw milk. That was back in January of 2005.After one week we decided that we needed our own cow due to family size andneeds of milk. We told the family our need and within a week they found usour jersey cow. She came to the farm on Feb 14th. We have never milkedbefore. So far we have made some cheese and yogurt from the milk. We have2 children that are unable to drink milk from the store but so far they havebeen doing well on the raw milk. So far it seems we have 4 familiesinterested in purchasing our milk already.Thank You,Dave & MicheleDad & Mom to 4 DS's & 6 DD's ages 16yrs to 2yrs~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

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Hi Dave & Michele,

Ain't it a great thing to have your OWN source for " Gods most perfect

food " ? It's well worth all the work that goes with keeping your girl. The

fun is yet to come. Wait till you have your own little baby and are able to

raise it the way you want. The goods the bads, the in the outs and everthing

that goes with it.

I've been raising Jersey cows for better than 25 years and I started

out the hard way. With a 7 year old sickly hardship case that was my pride

and joy, my Jessiecow. (not ) She was my best friend. I had to have

her put to sleep as I sat with her head in my lap. At better than 16 years

old, her kidneys and liver failed her. Within a week she lost most of her

body weight (she stopped eating and drinking) and was in worse shape then

when I first got her. I and my mom cried for days. Now mom walks with Jessie

by her side. Neither of them in pain anymore as they wait for me to join

them.

I've learned alot in my many years with my girls and if there is

ANYTHING I might be able to help you with, feel free to e-mail me if you'd

like and I will do what I can to help you threw " your new adventure " .

dusty47@...

All My Best,

Vicky

>

>Reply-To: RawDairy

>To: <RawDairy >

>Subject: Intro

>Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:50:32 -0600

>

>

>Hello....

>We are Dave & Michele @ dmblessings@... in Lee County, Illinois

>We are on a 13 acre farmette.

>Raw milk is only sold thru cow shares in Illinois from what we know.

>We had learned about raw milk from reading the book The Maker's Diet. From

>there we got on the internet to research about raw milk. We went to

>RawMilk.com and found a local farm that was selling shares. We purchased a

>share and started drinking raw milk. That was back in January of 2005.

>After one week we decided that we needed our own cow due to family size and

>needs of milk. We told the family our need and within a week they found us

>our jersey cow. She came to the farm on Feb 14th. We have never milked

>before. So far we have made some cheese and yogurt from the milk. We have

>2 children that are unable to drink milk from the store but so far they

>have

>been doing well on the raw milk. So far it seems we have 4 families

>interested in purchasing our milk already.

>

>Thank You,

>

>Dave & Michele

>Dad & Mom to 4 DS's & 6 DD's ages 16yrs to 2yrs

>~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

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[Guest guest]

Welcome Dave and Michele.

We have 10 children as well, all still at home ages 3-22. Do you homeschool?

We drink a lot of milk! Between cheesemaking, cooking and drinking, we could

easily use the milk from one Jersey, so don't get too comitted to selling

milk 'till you've been doing it for a while. Milking cows is addictive,

however, so you might end up with more Jerseys before you know it!

Blessings to you,

Tina in TX

mamaof10sofar@...