Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 Aluminum barbeques > I was looking at some gas barbecues today and one brand had cast > aluminum cover lids on all their models, and I was wondering if there would be any danger of the aluminum gassing into the food under high temperatures. It possibly could combine with some of the cooking by products and recondense on the food. I just thinking cooking with aluminum is a bad idea even if no aluminum actually gets into the food. Iron has better energy. If I were in your shoes no way would I opt for aluminum unless the item will be used rarely. Just my opinion Dan > > Does anyone have an opinion? > jp > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 I've never heard of aluminum gassing. In cooking utensils the problem, as I understand it, is that acid foods leach out aluminum, causing the pitting, and thus it gets in food. Even tho people might eat it, inorganic aluminum won't get across the BBB, unless someone has heard something I haven't, so is not connected to the high aluminum content in the brain of alzheimer's patients. Still, I don't use them. Someone told me a good way to SEE the problem. Prepare some whipped potatoes, leave them in an aluminum pot overnight in the refridgerator. All those black lines the next day are aluminum. jim Price wrote: >I was looking at some gas barbecues today and one brand had cast >aluminum cover lids on all their models, and I was wondering if there would be any danger of the aluminum gassing into the food under high temperatures. > >Does anyone have an opinion? >jp > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 My guess would be that it does off gass. I understand that even stanless steel gives of nickle when heated with gas instead of electric. Stainless is much harder than aluminum. If it can put nickle into the air, the I suspect that aluminum can also. But this is with gas heat. An electric stove is not a problem. A gas or fire barbeque would be a problem. I wouldn't risk it. Donna Re: Aluminum barbeques I've never heard of aluminum gassing. In cooking utensils the problem, as I understand it, is that acid foods leach out aluminum, causing the pitting, and thus it gets in food. Even tho people might eat it, inorganic aluminum won't get across the BBB, unless someone has heard something I haven't, so is not connected to the high aluminum content in the brain of alzheimer's patients. Still, I don't use them. Someone told me a good way to SEE the problem. Prepare some whipped potatoes, leave them in an aluminum pot overnight in the refridgerator. All those black lines the next day are aluminum. jim Price wrote: >I was looking at some gas barbecues today and one brand had cast >aluminum cover lids on all their models, and I was wondering if there would be any danger of the aluminum gassing into the food under high temperatures. > >Does anyone have an opinion? >jp > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 I agree. Just from the damage that aluminum mining does to the enviroment, it should be avoided everywhere it is possible to avoid it, in my very opinionated opinion. Smile Even if it doesn't hurt your body it hurts your world, which will eventually hurt everyones body. Donna Re: Aluminum barbeques If I were in your shoes no way would I opt for aluminum unless the item will be used rarely. Just my opinion Dan > > Does anyone have an opinion? > jp > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 I agree. Just from the damage that aluminum mining does to the enviroment, it should be avoided everywhere it is possible to avoid it, in my very opinionated opinion. Smile Even if it doesn't hurt your body it hurts your world, which will eventually hurt everyones body. Donna Re: Aluminum barbeques If I were in your shoes no way would I opt for aluminum unless the item will be used rarely. Just my opinion Dan > > Does anyone have an opinion? > jp > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Hi Craig. I know that stainless is alot harder than aluminum and I did read that an expert in metals, sorry don't remember the name, said that stainless steel and gas heat released nickle in gas form and he recommended only using ceramic cooking pots. So if stainless can off gas when in contact with gas heat, I would imagine aluminum could too. But I am not an expert, so lets see if there are any on the list. Donna Re: Aluminum barbeques Greetings, I let this one go by the first time, but I have to ask the question: What basis does anyone have for this supposition regarding aluminum outgassing? Now, I am assuming that we are talking about the body of the grill, not components inside the body of the grill. I know that aluminum alloys, have an average melting temperature of 1190 degrees F. I also know that most grills aren't used at temperatures over 450-500 degrees F, and usually more like 325-375 F. Way below the melting point. I have used mine at 550 F for quickly searing rack of lamb and typically clean it at 800 F. Until someone who is a metallurgist steps up and comments on this, I am not going to worry about the aluminum forgings/castings which constitute the body of the grill... WRT aluminum cooking utensils, I wouldn't touch them, but in this case food is in direct contact and there are utensils scraping the metal. Looking forward to an answer:) Ciao, Craig Price wrote: > > I was in Branson this weekend and found a great portable grill at > clearance price. No aluminum. > jp > > > I was looking at some gas barbecues today and one brand had cast > > aluminum cover lids on all their models, and I was wondering if there > would be any danger of the aluminum gassing into the food under high > temperatures. > > It possibly could combine with some of the cooking by products and > recondense on the food. I just thinking cooking with aluminum is a bad idea > even if no aluminum actually gets into the food. Iron has better energy. If > I were in your shoes no way would I opt for aluminum unless the item will be > used rarely. > > Just my opinion > > Dan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 I was in Branson this weekend and found a great portable grill at clearance price. No aluminum. jp > I was looking at some gas barbecues today and one brand had cast > aluminum cover lids on all their models, and I was wondering if there would be any danger of the aluminum gassing into the food under high temperatures. It possibly could combine with some of the cooking by products and recondense on the food. I just thinking cooking with aluminum is a bad idea even if no aluminum actually gets into the food. Iron has better energy. If I were in your shoes no way would I opt for aluminum unless the item will be used rarely. Just my opinion Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Greetings, I let this one go by the first time, but I have to ask the question: What basis does anyone have for this supposition regarding aluminum outgassing? Now, I am assuming that we are talking about the body of the grill, not components inside the body of the grill. I know that aluminum alloys, have an average melting temperature of 1190 degrees F. I also know that most grills aren't used at temperatures over 450-500 degrees F, and usually more like 325-375 F. Way below the melting point. I have used mine at 550 F for quickly searing rack of lamb and typically clean it at 800 F. Until someone who is a metallurgist steps up and comments on this, I am not going to worry about the aluminum forgings/castings which constitute the body of the grill... WRT aluminum cooking utensils, I wouldn't touch them, but in this case food is in direct contact and there are utensils scraping the metal. Looking forward to an answer:) Ciao, Craig Price wrote: > > I was in Branson this weekend and found a great portable grill at > clearance price. No aluminum. > jp > > > I was looking at some gas barbecues today and one brand had cast > > aluminum cover lids on all their models, and I was wondering if there > would be any danger of the aluminum gassing into the food under high > temperatures. > > It possibly could combine with some of the cooking by products and > recondense on the food. I just thinking cooking with aluminum is a bad idea > even if no aluminum actually gets into the food. Iron has better energy. If > I were in your shoes no way would I opt for aluminum unless the item will be > used rarely. > > Just my opinion > > Dan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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