Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 This may be old news to you all but I thought I would share it anyway. I have a friend that is a Wrap Around TSS and she told me that Social Security normally will not approve an application for SSI the first or second time you apply, but if you request a hearing each time you are denied SSI and you loose, the third time you apply you will most likely get approved. She sees this repeatedly with her clients. So if any of you have been turned down---keep trying. I guess they figure people will not reapply and it will save them money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Marcia, I am a teacher as well and the first time I took my daughter in to apply for SSI, she did not qualify. She is autistic and has already been diagnosed so I had all the medical confirmations as well as the school tests to prove her disability. When my husband lost his job, I went and applied again hoping the income limits had changed even though the first time it was my gross income alone that disqualified my daughter. This time, the lady who did the paper work looked at my gross but took out the insurance and some other things that she said she can legally take out and this time my daughter qualified! This just happened last month so maybe you can ask someone at the ssi office about that. Using my gross income alone would not have helped me but the lady at ssi did everything she could and that is what helped us. Some SSI employees act as if the benefits that we are applying for come straight from their pockets and they do very little to help us. I did not know that they could deduct the insurance from my gross or I would have told them to do so the first time I applied. Corina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Marcia, I am a teacher as well and the first time I took my daughter in to apply for SSI, she did not qualify. She is autistic and has already been diagnosed so I had all the medical confirmations as well as the school tests to prove her disability. When my husband lost his job, I went and applied again hoping the income limits had changed even though the first time it was my gross income alone that disqualified my daughter. This time, the lady who did the paper work looked at my gross but took out the insurance and some other things that she said she can legally take out and this time my daughter qualified! This just happened last month so maybe you can ask someone at the ssi office about that. Using my gross income alone would not have helped me but the lady at ssi did everything she could and that is what helped us. Some SSI employees act as if the benefits that we are applying for come straight from their pockets and they do very little to help us. I did not know that they could deduct the insurance from my gross or I would have told them to do so the first time I applied. Corina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Marcia, I am a teacher as well and the first time I took my daughter in to apply for SSI, she did not qualify. She is autistic and has already been diagnosed so I had all the medical confirmations as well as the school tests to prove her disability. When my husband lost his job, I went and applied again hoping the income limits had changed even though the first time it was my gross income alone that disqualified my daughter. This time, the lady who did the paper work looked at my gross but took out the insurance and some other things that she said she can legally take out and this time my daughter qualified! This just happened last month so maybe you can ask someone at the ssi office about that. Using my gross income alone would not have helped me but the lady at ssi did everything she could and that is what helped us. Some SSI employees act as if the benefits that we are applying for come straight from their pockets and they do very little to help us. I did not know that they could deduct the insurance from my gross or I would have told them to do so the first time I applied. Corina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 I did give them my check stub. That is what they took a copy of when they put entered everything into the computer. I told them all I really wanted was help with medical things not so much the money. They said that if I so much as qualify for $1.00 my duaghter would automatically get medicaid. CL Re: SSI In a message dated 7/24/2003 11:44:01 AM Central Daylight Time, elopez@... writes: > I did not know that they could deduct the insurance from my gross or I > would have told them to do so the first time I applied. > They don't normally do this. The only decutino they are supposed to give you is one for having another child, but they take your entire gross pay into account. Probably what will happen is that when you turn in your pay stubs they will look at it then and if you make too much money you will not get a check or a lower check that month. When we made over 2600 gross per month we would get a check for 360.00 dollars. if we made 3000 a month ( one time we had three holidays and a five week pay period and we went over 3000) we got less than $20. If we make less than 2600 we get 536 a month SSI goes on a month ot month basis, so if you get a raise or work even a little overtime your benefits can be reduced. What you earn in July will determine what benefit you get for September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 I did give them my check stub. That is what they took a copy of when they put entered everything into the computer. I told them all I really wanted was help with medical things not so much the money. They said that if I so much as qualify for $1.00 my duaghter would automatically get medicaid. CL Re: SSI In a message dated 7/24/2003 11:44:01 AM Central Daylight Time, elopez@... writes: > I did not know that they could deduct the insurance from my gross or I > would have told them to do so the first time I applied. > They don't normally do this. The only decutino they are supposed to give you is one for having another child, but they take your entire gross pay into account. Probably what will happen is that when you turn in your pay stubs they will look at it then and if you make too much money you will not get a check or a lower check that month. When we made over 2600 gross per month we would get a check for 360.00 dollars. if we made 3000 a month ( one time we had three holidays and a five week pay period and we went over 3000) we got less than $20. If we make less than 2600 we get 536 a month SSI goes on a month ot month basis, so if you get a raise or work even a little overtime your benefits can be reduced. What you earn in July will determine what benefit you get for September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 re: My insurance would not evaluate him > for that because they said school would do it. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Marcia Marcia, I was told " point blank " by our insurance rep to: First...go to a child psychologist for an eval...to prove that it's not just mental but, also medical...you will really need to stress to the psych how touchy the insurance co is with the " Asperger " diagnosis...see if you can coax them into writing up a PDD or Developmental Delay diagnosis Next...go to a neurologist to prove once again that this is a medical condition Once the above is taken care of the insurance company should have no doubt of mental/medical issues anymore. I was told that our insurance co would be bound by their policy to provide my son with everything needed to treat a developmental delay or neurological disorder Unfortunately I have no advice about co-pays..we are in the same boat (we have 4 therapy visits a wk that are $30 a pop; not to mention out- of-pocket therapies). The SSI thing, well a gentleman from this group emailed me some info...I will forward it on to you. I chose to cancel my appt because I knew we would be laughed at as well. I am uneasy about the waiver because if we prove that he needs " nursing home care " , the govt is on the fence right now concerning this waiver...if anyone should ever question our parenting I don't want someone to come in and say, " Well he needs to be in a facility anyway. " Maybe I am just too untrusty of our govt but, hey, they have given me much reason to doubt!! Good luck with everything! Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 They won't tell you over the phone if your child qualifies. They have to collect all of the info from you and the doctors before they make their decision. MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!! All kid's are gifted; some just open their packagesearlier than others.-- Carr RE: SSI Sheila, They base it on household income. You need to call them try . Ask them if you (or your child?) qualifies. If it is for a child it will still be on your and/or spouses income. You can apply for the Medicaid Deeming Waiver even if you don't qualify for SSI. Call GA Dept of Human Resources - DFCS at and ask for a package. Did your Dr. not give you any information on any of this? I'm sure most of us have been through this and will be more than happy to any your questions. Darla -----Original Message-----From: hopeNhealing@... Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:50 AMTo: autism-georgia Subject: SSIAnybody on here on SSI? How do you qualify? How long does it take toget started?Please let me know.Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 They won't tell you over the phone if your child qualifies. They have to collect all of the info from you and the doctors before they make their decision. MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!! All kid's are gifted; some just open their packagesearlier than others.-- Carr RE: SSI Sheila, They base it on household income. You need to call them try . Ask them if you (or your child?) qualifies. If it is for a child it will still be on your and/or spouses income. You can apply for the Medicaid Deeming Waiver even if you don't qualify for SSI. Call GA Dept of Human Resources - DFCS at and ask for a package. Did your Dr. not give you any information on any of this? I'm sure most of us have been through this and will be more than happy to any your questions. Darla -----Original Message-----From: hopeNhealing@... Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:50 AMTo: autism-georgia Subject: SSIAnybody on here on SSI? How do you qualify? How long does it take toget started?Please let me know.Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 They did disqualify us over the phone due to income restrictions after some pushing. I think if we hadn't been excluded for income we would have had to go down there. However, if I remember correctly, I kept asking them what the income limits were and they wanted to schedule an appoinment. My Babies Can't Wait case worker told us they could tell us if we make too much to qualify. I called them back and said "I DO NOT WANT TO WASTE MY TIME TO GO THERE FOR YOU TO TELL US YOU MAKE TOO MUCH." They asked how much household income and I told them so they said yeah you won't qualify. Then they sent us the "you do not qualify due to income" letter we needed to send in with the Deeming Waiver application for Medicaid. Hope this clarifies the process I went through. I kind of figured we would be excluded. If you're still in Babies Can't Wait and happen to talk to your case worker, she may know what the income limits are. Won't hurt to ask but I would definately find out before you go on an appointment - Your too busy as it is. Of course, You'd still need to qualify under the disability with the medical records if they can't disqualify you for too much income. Good Luck! Darla -----Original Message-----From: Missy Feldhaus Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:24 PMTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: SSI They won't tell you over the phone if your child qualifies. They have to collect all of the info from you and the doctors before they make their decision. MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!! All kid's are gifted; some just open their packagesearlier than others.-- Carr RE: SSI Sheila, They base it on household income. You need to call them try . Ask them if you (or your child?) qualifies. If it is for a child it will still be on your and/or spouses income. You can apply for the Medicaid Deeming Waiver even if you don't qualify for SSI. Call GA Dept of Human Resources - DFCS at and ask for a package. Did your Dr. not give you any information on any of this? I'm sure most of us have been through this and will be more than happy to any your questions. Darla -----Original Message-----From: hopeNhealing@... Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:50 AMTo: autism-georgia Subject: SSIAnybody on here on SSI? How do you qualify? How long does it take toget started?Please let me know.Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 They did disqualify us over the phone due to income restrictions after some pushing. I think if we hadn't been excluded for income we would have had to go down there. However, if I remember correctly, I kept asking them what the income limits were and they wanted to schedule an appoinment. My Babies Can't Wait case worker told us they could tell us if we make too much to qualify. I called them back and said "I DO NOT WANT TO WASTE MY TIME TO GO THERE FOR YOU TO TELL US YOU MAKE TOO MUCH." They asked how much household income and I told them so they said yeah you won't qualify. Then they sent us the "you do not qualify due to income" letter we needed to send in with the Deeming Waiver application for Medicaid. Hope this clarifies the process I went through. I kind of figured we would be excluded. If you're still in Babies Can't Wait and happen to talk to your case worker, she may know what the income limits are. Won't hurt to ask but I would definately find out before you go on an appointment - Your too busy as it is. Of course, You'd still need to qualify under the disability with the medical records if they can't disqualify you for too much income. Good Luck! Darla -----Original Message-----From: Missy Feldhaus Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:24 PMTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: SSI They won't tell you over the phone if your child qualifies. They have to collect all of the info from you and the doctors before they make their decision. MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!! All kid's are gifted; some just open their packagesearlier than others.-- Carr RE: SSI Sheila, They base it on household income. You need to call them try . Ask them if you (or your child?) qualifies. If it is for a child it will still be on your and/or spouses income. You can apply for the Medicaid Deeming Waiver even if you don't qualify for SSI. Call GA Dept of Human Resources - DFCS at and ask for a package. Did your Dr. not give you any information on any of this? I'm sure most of us have been through this and will be more than happy to any your questions. Darla -----Original Message-----From: hopeNhealing@... Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:50 AMTo: autism-georgia Subject: SSIAnybody on here on SSI? How do you qualify? How long does it take toget started?Please let me know.Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 They did disqualify us over the phone due to income restrictions after some pushing. I think if we hadn't been excluded for income we would have had to go down there. However, if I remember correctly, I kept asking them what the income limits were and they wanted to schedule an appoinment. My Babies Can't Wait case worker told us they could tell us if we make too much to qualify. I called them back and said "I DO NOT WANT TO WASTE MY TIME TO GO THERE FOR YOU TO TELL US YOU MAKE TOO MUCH." They asked how much household income and I told them so they said yeah you won't qualify. Then they sent us the "you do not qualify due to income" letter we needed to send in with the Deeming Waiver application for Medicaid. Hope this clarifies the process I went through. I kind of figured we would be excluded. If you're still in Babies Can't Wait and happen to talk to your case worker, she may know what the income limits are. Won't hurt to ask but I would definately find out before you go on an appointment - Your too busy as it is. Of course, You'd still need to qualify under the disability with the medical records if they can't disqualify you for too much income. Good Luck! Darla -----Original Message-----From: Missy Feldhaus Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:24 PMTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: SSI They won't tell you over the phone if your child qualifies. They have to collect all of the info from you and the doctors before they make their decision. MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!! All kid's are gifted; some just open their packagesearlier than others.-- Carr RE: SSI Sheila, They base it on household income. You need to call them try . Ask them if you (or your child?) qualifies. If it is for a child it will still be on your and/or spouses income. You can apply for the Medicaid Deeming Waiver even if you don't qualify for SSI. Call GA Dept of Human Resources - DFCS at and ask for a package. Did your Dr. not give you any information on any of this? I'm sure most of us have been through this and will be more than happy to any your questions. Darla -----Original Message-----From: hopeNhealing@... Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:50 AMTo: autism-georgia Subject: SSIAnybody on here on SSI? How do you qualify? How long does it take toget started?Please let me know.Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 We applied for SSI to get on the Beckett Deeming Waiver and they told us we wouldn't qualify (over the phone)- I didn't even ask them for this information- they asked our income and why we were applying- I answered both questions- they told me the denial letter would be in the mail and we received it within 10 days- I guess it depends on whom you are talking with- like everything else. (that was two years ago) Thanks -----Original Message-----From: Darla Birchall Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 5:01 PMTo: autism-georgia Subject: RE: SSI They did disqualify us over the phone due to income restrictions after some pushing. I think if we hadn't been excluded for income we would have had to go down there. However, if I remember correctly, I kept asking them what the income limits were and they wanted to schedule an appoinment. My Babies Can't Wait case worker told us they could tell us if we make too much to qualify. I called them back and said "I DO NOT WANT TO WASTE MY TIME TO GO THERE FOR YOU TO TELL US YOU MAKE TOO MUCH." They asked how much household income and I told them so they said yeah you won't qualify. Then they sent us the "you do not qualify due to income" letter we needed to send in with the Deeming Waiver application for Medicaid. Hope this clarifies the process I went through. I kind of figured we would be excluded. If you're still in Babies Can't Wait and happen to talk to your case worker, she may know what the income limits are. Won't hurt to ask but I would definately find out before you go on an appointment - Your too busy as it is. Of course, You'd still need to qualify under the disability with the medical records if they can't disqualify you for too much income. Good Luck! Darla -----Original Message-----From: Missy Feldhaus Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:24 PMTo: autism-georgia Subject: Re: SSI They won't tell you over the phone if your child qualifies. They have to collect all of the info from you and the doctors before they make their decision. MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!! All kid's are gifted; some just open their packagesearlier than others.-- Carr RE: SSI Sheila, They base it on household income. You need to call them try . Ask them if you (or your child?) qualifies. If it is for a child it will still be on your and/or spouses income. You can apply for the Medicaid Deeming Waiver even if you don't qualify for SSI. Call GA Dept of Human Resources - DFCS at and ask for a package. Did your Dr. not give you any information on any of this? I'm sure most of us have been through this and will be more than happy to any your questions. Darla -----Original Message-----From: hopeNhealing@... Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:50 AMTo: autism-georgia Subject: SSIAnybody on here on SSI? How do you qualify? How long does it take toget started?Please let me know.Sheila ---Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Sheila: Call the Social Security Administration on the phone. They will let you apply by phone (and send a confirming written application in the mail). We did not qualify for SSI because my income is too high, but we had to be rejected for SSI to get Deeming Waiver benefits (medicaid that covers what insurance won't). Good luck! hopeNhealing@... 07/04/2004 01:49 AM Please respond to autism-georgia To: autism-georgia cc: Subject: SSI Anybody on here on SSI? How do you qualify? How long does it take to get started? Please let me know. Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Sheila: Call the Social Security Administration on the phone. They will let you apply by phone (and send a confirming written application in the mail). We did not qualify for SSI because my income is too high, but we had to be rejected for SSI to get Deeming Waiver benefits (medicaid that covers what insurance won't). Good luck! hopeNhealing@... 07/04/2004 01:49 AM Please respond to autism-georgia To: autism-georgia cc: Subject: SSI Anybody on here on SSI? How do you qualify? How long does it take to get started? Please let me know. Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Just wanted to comment on this message, . I have heard of folks being told by DFACS workers that , unless you have gone through the SSI process and been turned down , that you do not qualify for the Deeming Waiver . I wanted to let everyone know that it is not necessary to actually go through the entire SSI application process and be turned down in writing from SSI to get the Deeming Waiver. Many DFACs workers are misinformed and do not actually know what the regulations of the KB or the Right From the Start ( which is what we have ) are and , unfortunately, have been misinforming parents. You can tell DFACS that you know that you would be turned down for SSI if you were to apply and give them your salary information. There has been some confusion on this issue from some members of this group before and I want to make sure that everyone has the correct information. I really hate for folks to think they have to go through the entire SSI application process and be turned down because that process can take months and will delay the appropriate medical care for the child. In the step-by-step application process for this waiver ( which you can find on the GA-ParentNetwork ), the wording is " SSI eligibility is determined using deemed income and resources of the parent( s) or by obtaining an SSI denial letter " , Bowen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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