Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Hi Vilik, Actually it could be true with the silver as when you add h2o2 to silver it does make it ionic. I think that maybe blasting might just be a term, being used. I don't really know the procedure that they use as obviously they are are not going to tell anyone, but it could be a possibility. I don't know if this procedure works for other minerals or not. Glenda ; ) Vilik Rapheles wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:21:48 -0000 > > Subject: Making Ionic Silver > > I was just on the phone with one of my patients. He told me that he > ran into a friend that worked at Water Oz. There they ozonated > colloidal silver to make ionic silver...Any truth to this??? > > Does ozonating colloidal minerals create ionic minerals? And, if it > does, how long do you ozonate and at what setting??? > > I don't think he was pulling my leg...Ron Inda > > ~~~~~~ > No Ron he wasn't just pulling your leg...he was yanking your > chain, getting your goat, and anything else you can think of. > > :):) > > Call wateroz and ask them how they make their minerals. It > is a secret method, but they can tell you enough to convice > you that what your friend told you isn't it. > > They blast the minerals in such a way that they end up in > very small ionic particles. > > ~^^V^^~ > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Glenda, all: Many people create various strange forms of silver, fooling themselves into believing that they are creating a superior product. Ozonation can be used prior to, or even during colloidal silver production. Not wise. Like many silver products, Water OZ is effective, but has also been attributed to several cases of argyria. One of the two most knowledgeable experts on silver solutions/colloids has done analytical work on Water OZ and determined that it is a silver ionic compound with an unknown anion. Please be aware that playing with silver production can yield excess amounts of nitrogen in the solution; using anything but the purest water can result in silver complexes, including silver salts and other compounds that are not only less effective, but pose a possible health risk ( argyria ) through long term and excessive use. Remember that all ions are created equal; more important is what the anion is, and why this particular anion is used. Beware of companies that will not tell you what their product contains. In the case of silver colloids and solutions, hard science is your best friend, and the best of the best will always share exactly what you are consuming, as well as give you access to laboratory analysis clearly showing a) how much silver you would be ingesting the form of silver you are ingesting. There is no need to join the ranks of Rosemary s or Stan , nor any reason to fear correctly utilizing a properly made colloidal silver. On our site, we expound upon three primary principles of electro-colloidal silver production. If these principles are violated, an inferior product is always the result. Companies then " crank up " the concentration as measured in PPM to ensure effectiveness. Many people, even those who make colloidal silver for a living, are not aware of the three principles, and thus immediately limit the quality of product they can produce. They then let fictitous and fanciful ideas lead them into thinking that alternative methods produce a higher quality product... Funny, that in every single case, these people who claim to have a superior product refuse to allow a lab comparison to become public, or show no interest whatsoever in proving their claims of greater effectiveness. Best Regards http://www.silvermedicine.org Making Ionic Silver > > > > I was just on the phone with one of my patients. He told me that he > > ran into a friend that worked at Water Oz. There they ozonated > > colloidal silver to make ionic silver...Any truth to this??? > > > > Does ozonating colloidal minerals create ionic minerals? And, if it > > does, how long do you ozonate and at what setting??? > > > > I don't think he was pulling my leg...Ron Inda > > > > ~~~~~~ > > No Ron he wasn't just pulling your leg...he was yanking your > > chain, getting your goat, and anything else you can think of. > > > > :):) > > > > Call wateroz and ask them how they make their minerals. It > > is a secret method, but they can tell you enough to convice > > you that what your friend told you isn't it. > > > > They blast the minerals in such a way that they end up in > > very small ionic particles. > > > > ~^^V^^~ > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 Hi , I'd be very interested in your take on the colloidal silver maker Duncan refers to that he built from a microwave oven... Dang - I was sure I saved that - Duncan? Thanks > Many people create various strange forms of silver, fooling themselves into > believing that they are creating a superior product. Ozonation can be used > prior to, or even during colloidal silver production. Not wise. Like many > silver products, Water OZ is effective, but has also been attributed to > several cases of argyria. One of the two most knowledgeable experts on > silver solutions/colloids has done analytical work on Water OZ and > determined that it is a silver ionic compound with an unknown anion. > > Please be aware that playing with silver production can yield excess amounts > of nitrogen in the solution; using anything but the purest water can result > in silver complexes, including silver salts and other compounds that are not > only less effective, but pose a possible health risk ( argyria ) through > long term and excessive use. Remember that all ions are created equal; more > important is what the anion is, and why this particular anion is used. > > Beware of companies that will not tell you what their product contains. In > the case of silver colloids and solutions, hard science is your best friend, > and the best of the best will always share exactly what you are consuming, > as well as give you access to laboratory analysis clearly showing a) how > much silver you would be ingesting the form of silver you are ingesting. > > There is no need to join the ranks of Rosemary s or Stan , nor any > reason to fear correctly utilizing a properly made colloidal silver. > > On our site, we expound upon three primary principles of electro-colloidal > silver production. If these principles are violated, an inferior product is > always the result. Companies then " crank up " the concentration as measured > in PPM to ensure effectiveness. > > Many people, even those who make colloidal silver for a living, are not > aware of the three principles, and thus immediately limit the quality of > product they can produce. They then let fictitous and fanciful ideas lead > them into thinking that alternative methods produce a higher quality > product... Funny, that in every single case, these people who claim to have > a superior product refuse to allow a lab comparison to become public, or > show no interest whatsoever in proving their claims of greater > effectiveness. > > Best Regards > > > http://www.silvermedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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