Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Dear Obie, I would suggest you look into the Chi Lamp which can be found on the web sites. Other names exist for the Chi Lamp, but also a book by Dr.Chi is available in some of the health stores. It is remarkable and I cannot explain its mystery, how it works, but it does in many such cases.. Manson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Obie, You're right, there's no help from doctors, except one neurosurgeon wanted to drill a hole in the back of my neck for exactly the same kind of pain. Started in the neck, went down the shoulder and into the arm. Lived with this for several years, sadly it ruined my daughter's wedding for me, as I was hurting so much. One day a physical therapist was cautioning me about holding my neck in an unnatural position, straining his head forward to demonstrate what he meant. Like a bolt out of the blue I saw myself leaning forward, several hours a day while playing/teaching the organ in order to see the music which was getting smaller and smaller due to loss of the eyesight I used to have. I changed the way I held my neck, by jerry rigging something to bring the music closer, and in no time at all the pain was gone, never to return in more than 10 years. I don't know if your sister-in-law's work involves an unnatural position of her neck, but you could at least mention this to her as something to think about. And if she sees a connection to her pain and her occupation I hope she can find a way to alleviate the situation.... sure beats having a hold drilled in her neck. ... ----- Group, please excuse the exclamation but I need your help. My lady's sister is having tremendous pain. She says she's had it for years. The Docs say it's an inflamation of the nerves in her neck that radiates down into her shoulder and into her arm; an old injury, serious pain. She's an Operating Room RN with no hope from allopathy for this. Can we help her, would straight DMSO sprayed on the skin help with this pain, should we dilute it or do something else? Thank you, Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Had a similar problem with and accident involving c3,4,5,6. Had a series of injections of zylocain(sp?) and some kind of steriod, into the respective cervical nerves. Major pain reduction. No side effects. Only poblem is that they have to place the needle directly into the nerve without deadening it so you can tell them when the needle gets there. dblack wrote: > > Obie, > You're right, there's no help from doctors, except one neurosurgeon wanted to drill a hole in the back of my neck for exactly the same kind of pain. Started in the neck, went down the shoulder and into the arm. Lived with this for several years, sadly it ruined my daughter's wedding for me, as I was hurting so much. > One day a physical therapist was cautioning me about holding my neck in an unnatural position, straining his head forward to demonstrate what he meant. Like a bolt out of the blue I saw myself leaning forward, several hours a day while playing/teaching the organ in order to see the music which was getting smaller and smaller due to loss of the eyesight I used to have. I changed the way I held my neck, by jerry rigging something to bring the music closer, and in no time at all the pain was gone, never to return in more than 10 years. > I don't know if your sister-in-law's work involves an unnatural position of her neck, but you could at least mention this to her as something to think about. And if she sees a connection to her pain and her occupation I hope she can find a way to alleviate the situation.... sure beats having a hold drilled in her neck. > ... > > ----- > Group, please excuse the exclamation but I need your help. My lady's sister is having tremendous pain. She says she's had it for years. The Docs say it's an inflamation of the nerves in her neck that radiates down into her shoulder and into her arm; an old injury, serious pain. She's an Operating Room RN with no hope from allopathy for this. Can we help her, would straight DMSO sprayed on the skin help with this pain, should we dilute it or do something else? Thank you, Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 Hi Obie, All too often surgeons misunderstand the principle of Occam's Razor and interpret it literally rather than as the metaphor which it is. This could appear funny to some or tragic to others who have experienced the razor cutting them rather then the wheat from the chaff. Much Goodwill, Re: ALERT - PAIN Obie, You're right, there's no help from doctors, except one neurosurgeon wanted to drill a hole in the back of my neck for exactly the same kind of pain. Started in the neck, went down the shoulder and into the arm. Lived with this for several years, sadly it ruined my daughter's wedding for me, as I was hurting so much. One day a physical therapist was cautioning me about holding my neck in an unnatural position, straining his head forward to demonstrate what he meant. Like a bolt out of the blue I saw myself leaning forward, several hours a day while playing/teaching the organ in order to see the music which was getting smaller and smaller due to loss of the eyesight I used to have. I changed the way I held my neck, by jerry rigging something to bring the music closer, and in no time at all the pain was gone, never to return in more than 10 years. I don't know if your sister-in-law's work involves an unnatural position of her neck, but you could at least mention this to her as something to think about. And if she sees a connection to her pain and her occupation I hope she can find a way to alleviate the situation.... sure beats having a hold drilled in her neck. ... ----- Group, please excuse the exclamation but I need your help. My lady's sister is having tremendous pain. She says she's had it for years. The Docs say it's an inflamation of the nerves in her neck that radiates down into her shoulder and into her arm; an old injury, serious pain. She's an Operating Room RN with no hope from allopathy for this. Can we help her, would straight DMSO sprayed on the skin help with this pain, should we dilute it or do something else? Thank you, Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 I have read that if you are going to use DMSO on skin, that you shouldn't use anything stronger than 70% DMSO. The 30% is usually distilled water, from what I have read. Carol At 01:52 PM 10/18/2002, you wrote: >Group, please excuse the exclamation but I need your help. My lady's >sister is having tremendous pain. She says she's had it for years. The >Docs say it's an inflamation of the nerves in her neck that radiates down >into her shoulder and into her arm; an old injury, serious pain. She's an >Operating Room RN with no hope from allopathy for this. Can we help her, >would straight DMSO sprayed on the skin help with this pain, should we >dilute it or do something else? Thank you, Obie. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2002 Report Share Posted November 7, 2002 In a message dated 11/7/2002 4:53:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, jlambert@... writes: << information >> Dear Jim I eavesdropped on ;your post with Obie. That Dr. Schultze Liver/GB Tonic sounds like something you can take with a spoon. I haven't had any success with the traditional Liver Flush. Is the tonic something you can take and get the same result as the flush and if so where would I find it. Health Food Store? Thanks Jim Manson The first joint in my index finger is developing a hard lump and some soreness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2002 Report Share Posted November 7, 2002 , Dr. Schulze can only be bought direct (800) HERB-DOC. He says it increases bile flow which melts out the stones in time. How long is the question. I would guess 1-2 years the slow way. But, it DOES increase bile flow. You can tell at the next bowell movement there is more bile. Its exit burn is distinct from, say, cayenne. It comes as a tincture, 1-2 droppersful 2-4 times a day. I do 2 twice a day. jim FAMANSON@... wrote: >In a message dated 11/7/2002 4:53:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, >jlambert@... writes: > ><< information >> >Dear Jim I eavesdropped on ;your post with Obie. That Dr. Schultze Liver/GB >Tonic sounds like something you can take with a spoon. I haven't had any >success with the traditional Liver Flush. Is the tonic something you can take >and get the same result as the flush and if so where would I find it. Health >Food Store? Thanks Jim Manson The first joint in my index finger is >developing a hard lump and some soreness. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2002 Report Share Posted November 7, 2002 And trade in that .44 for a .22. Jim Lambert wrote: > > Obie, > > Redheaded, freckled people usually have skin sensitive to chemicals & > the Sun. DMSO is a slovent distilled from wood fiber. It can easily be > too strong for someone with sensitive skin. The shoulder pain sounds > like a liver/GB flush is indicated. Have her checked for clogging there. > A clogged liver is responsible for most back pains above the middle of > the back, shoulder, elbow, wrist & even finger pain. I once thought I > was developing arthritis in my fingers, had 44 magnum elbow & bursitis > in the shoulder, along with myospasms in the upper back. They all > disappeared overnight when I did a flush. > > If this is her problem, Dr. Schulze's liver/GB tonic should help. > > jim > > Obie2 wrote: > > >During the middle of October, I asked for help with pain extending down to fingers due to shoulder inflammation of nerves and asked about DMSO and someone suggested a 70% mix. Let me tell you what happened. She is a redhead, very light and thin skinned individual. After using the 70% spray, she came up, after two days, with what looked like a sun burn with blisters scattered within the burned area. Also, she didn't feel any reduction of her pain. So should we dilute the mix down to, maybe, 50% and try again? I mean, with DMSO, I can't imagine she didn't feel any pain relief. Or does it need several applications? Feedback, please. Obie. > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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