Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Hi Ken, I used my SCENAR unit for this problem last week. One treatment all pain gone and muscle released. I have massaged this muscle for the past 3 months with very limited success. The SCENAR also healed my wife's 3 month old hip pain in 2 sessions and no pain for a week. Last week we were walking and my wife's knee started aching. One SCENAR treatment and no more pain since Saturday. My dentist had 20 year old hip pain the SCENAR eliminated the pain. He regularly went to chiropractors and acupuncturists and never had been pain free before. The Acuscen dealer is in California someplace. Call him and he might have a SCENAR owner near you. <A HREF= " www.brain-tuner.com " >www.brain-tuner.com</A> (If I remember correctly) JJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Ken Gullan - IRI wrote: > > HI all, 2 days ago my wife returned from Spain, Portugal and England > trip > with a horrible back problem. Was taken to emergency by ambulance in > England and given pain killers, Valium and something else to relax the > muscles (Total cost and $8 - including ambulance ride) Personally, I > don't > think it was worth even that but worth noting. > She has a tight knot in the muscle under her right shoulder blade > (about > where you could touch with your right thumb) and it is incapacitating > her. > Have tried heat, mag pulser, various homeopathic, tiger balm, etc. but > have > not managed to get the muscles to release. Actually can notice a lump > which > looks like a buried baseball. Any suggestions? Many thanks and much Massage till the muscles release their tension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 IV Cal/ Mag and trace minerals then a full hour at 2 ata in a hyperbaric Oxygen chamber. worth a try. Back pain - tight muscles > HI all, 2 days ago my wife returned from Spain, Portugal and England trip > with a horrible back problem. Was taken to emergency by ambulance in > England and given pain killers, Valium and something else to relax the > muscles (Total cost and $8 - including ambulance ride) Personally, I don't > think it was worth even that but worth noting. > She has a tight knot in the muscle under her right shoulder blade (about > where you could touch with your right thumb) and it is incapacitating her. > Have tried heat, mag pulser, various homeopathic, tiger balm, etc. but have > not managed to get the muscles to release. Actually can notice a lump which > looks like a buried baseball. Any suggestions? Many thanks and much love, > Ken > Ken Gullan > Institute for Research Integration (IRI) > San Diego, CA > IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with > developmental difficulties. > To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Dear Ken, This is where fibromyalgia often first manifests. Take your thumb and press carefully in the center of the muscle knot. Be VERY careful not to roll off, because that is easy to do, and very painful. Press steadily and forcefully into the center of the knot, and have your wife inhale strongly, and 'direct' the oxygen into that exact spot (visualizing) as you press. That usually relaxes the knot quickly. Sometimes it is necessary to use the flat part under the elbow instead of the thumb, for more force, but a wider area. It is also easier to avoid the painful roll off. Best of health! Dr. Saul ------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: oxyplus To: <oxyplus > Subject: Back pain - tight muscles Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:38:51 -0800 HI all, 2 days ago my wife returned from Spain, Portugal and England trip with a horrible back problem. Was taken to emergency by ambulance in England and given pain killers, Valium and something else to relax the muscles (Total cost and $8 - including ambulance ride) Personally, I don't think it was worth even that but worth noting. She has a tight knot in the muscle under her right shoulder blade (about where you could touch with your right thumb) and it is incapacitating her. Have tried heat, mag pulser, various homeopathic, tiger balm, etc. but have not managed to get the muscles to release. Actually can notice a lump which looks like a buried baseball. Any suggestions? Many thanks and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Ken, Are her fingertips numb, especially the smaller fingers? Does she drink coffee, smoke, eat much sugar, drink sodas with or without cafeine? If you rub fairly hard over the arc of the top of her gluteus medius, where the muscle connects to the top of the hipbone, does it hurt anywhere sharply, sort of like a burning dagger point? I would consult a chiropractor, especially one who has familiarity with acupressure & kinesiology. The thing between the shoulder blades could easily be a common subluxation in the T4-5 & sometimes also T5-6 joint. This can almost be assumed in people who smoke or drink coffee/soda pop w/caffeine. If she has any numbness in her fingers, this is most likely it. If it is this, drugs & rubbing won't help. The vertebrae has to be adjusted by a professional. I do lots of back & neck adjustments, but this one requires a chiro. After time, this can drive people crazy with the constancy of the pain. I read Betty Ford had this, and if so, it is most likely what drove her to drink & pills. I am currently working with someone (and she isn't the first) who manifests the same pain & knot between the shoulder blades, that turned out to be peripheral tension related to her gluteus medius. (Could also be the maximus in some people, or both). I would try the glutes on the same side first. The reason a problem between the shoulderblades can originate in the butt is actually very simple. Say you have a vertebrae out to the right near the sacum. In order to balance the spine vertically, the body will compensate & you will have another vertebrae out on the left a little higher up, then another on the right higher still, etc. This is sort of hard to explain in writing. Imagine the upper joint of the thigh bone as a small ball. One end of the glutes attaches here. The other attaches along the arc of the top of the hipbone for the medius, and into the maximus as it approaches the sacrum. The grain of the muscle goes from the thighbone to the hipbone. If there is a sharp pain when you rub (hard with a fingertip) cross-grain along the edge of the hipbone, you will find a corresponding soreness on the same portion of the arc over the top of the thighbone, and must rub hard crossgrain there also. In acupressure this is called the origin/insertion technique. I have seen ( and experienced) this going one of two ways. One, it can manifest as a a sharp pain between the shoulderblades, with or without numbness in the fingers. (The numbness just confirms it.) Two, when someone lifts something light & their back goes out & they can't stand up -- it is this. If for some reason you don't want to go to a chiropractor, then go to an osteopath, which is a combination of MD & chiropractor. Usually, 10-20 minutes from experienced hands brings relief. jim jim Ken Gullan - IRI wrote: >HI all, 2 days ago my wife returned from Spain, Portugal and England trip >with a horrible back problem. Was taken to emergency by ambulance in >England and given pain killers, Valium and something else to relax the >muscles (Total cost and $8 - including ambulance ride) Personally, I don't >think it was worth even that but worth noting. >She has a tight knot in the muscle under her right shoulder blade (about >where you could touch with your right thumb) and it is incapacitating her. >Have tried heat, mag pulser, various homeopathic, tiger balm, etc. but have >not managed to get the muscles to release. Actually can notice a lump which >looks like a buried baseball. Any suggestions? Many thanks and much love, >Ken >Ken Gullan >Institute for Research Integration (IRI) >San Diego, CA >IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with >developmental difficulties. >To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Thanks for asking, Donna. She is healthy again. I just made her rest in bed for 2 days while I did a version of Gerson therapy with lots of juicing and coffee enemas. Also, did a couple of Feldenkrais sessions on her and used the mag pulser and several natural relaxants like tiger balm, etc. She is well again and playing tennis. I thought it may be just tension problems and/or reflected pain from liver/kidney/gall and constipation that she had while in Europe so attacked it from all angles. she was worried that she had a muscle detached from the rib and wanted to have an MRI but was very relieved when the pain started subsiding almost immediately she started on the enemas. Many thanks and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call Back pain - tight muscles > > > HI all, 2 days ago my wife returned from Spain, Portugal and England trip > with a horrible back problem. > > She has a tight knot in the muscle under her right shoulder blade (about > where you could touch with your right thumb) and it is incapacitating her. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 Hi Ken. I was wondering how your wife is doing with this? Donna Back pain - tight muscles HI all, 2 days ago my wife returned from Spain, Portugal and England trip with a horrible back problem. She has a tight knot in the muscle under her right shoulder blade (about where you could touch with your right thumb) and it is incapacitating her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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