Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Was she at this school last year? for pre-school. If so I bet they would put her in CDC until the IEP is worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Was she at this school last year? for pre-school. If so I bet they would put her in CDC until the IEP is worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Was she at this school last year? for pre-school. If so I bet they would put her in CDC until the IEP is worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 To my understanding, your old IEP <and placement> remain in effect. That is what happened with us last year. We had 1 hour of speech daily and the district tried to pull it 2 months after we agreed to it, based on, " Well, Mrs. Lee, I don't know what I was thinking that day, I thought it was bizarre to request daily speech but it just slipped my mind. " Well - - sorry, district, but I am not agreeing to your new " recommendations " and since I did not agree and it was only for the summer program that it was written into my IEP for - - - they had no choice but to honor it. Debi, it's none of my business, really - - but what is the big deal about what they are suggesting? I know some parents even in my own district want mainstreaming, inclusion and such in a hurry - - and I do understand LRE as well as why you feel the way you do - - but ensuring the child's success is just as important, and with autistic children, my personal take is that it is best to slowly and consistently expose them to the new classroom until they are familiar with it - THEN move them in. Granted, each child is different. But as my children have " upgraded " in classes for the last 4 years - this has been the very best approach where we have made sure it's #1 - the right fit indeed, and #2 the child transitions flawlessly without a period of adjustment as we phase out one atmosphere by exposing them more and more to the other. If the SD was not willing to put her in regular Kindergarten at all - I see the issue and would fight also. But that is not the case here, is it? Trying Allie out in Kindy during the regular " CDC " day - - and finding out exactly what she needs in such a placement <full-time aide? P/t? None? Or perhaps NOT the right placement?> before putting her in the class altogether is not such a bad deal. If you have had tremendous issues with your SD, I suppose I can see what the concern is about, but if they have been generally fair and decent about placement in the past.... Well, it's like arguing over six or half a dozen of something, no? Grace IEP question Let's say we don't get Allie's IEP worked out by the start of school. Someone told me she thought we would go with the old IEP until a new one is worked out. My question is that the current IEP is for a pre-K setting and she will be 6 by the start of the new year and going into kindergarten. The issue for us is inclusion in general ed with visits to sped vs. staying in sped setting with visits into general ed. I'm wanting her to " try " general ed kindergarten and pull out as needed; they want to put her in sped and " try her " in k " as she can handle it " . If we don't have this thing worked out by the start of school, what will the school do? Will they try to put her in a CDC class? My feeling is without an IEP she should be a " regular " kindergarten student until she has an IEP. Is this a correct feeling and a legal one? TIA, Debi 's Little Sister ISBN 1-4137-1724-1 www.debityree.com Some of our families have been told to put their child into an institution. We're hoping for Harvard. www.tacanow.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 I don't mean to but in but just want to relay my daughter's transition into kindergarten. It started in Oct. She is still not fully transitioned. She loves kindergarten but also needs structure of an intense program. She has the best of both worlds here. There are two types of parents. One that hurries transistions one that holds back to trying to keep their child in special ed. I'm the second type. I'd rather her get intensive ed. But I have to tell you I just may be all wrong on this. She has come 3 years worth in just one year. Is it because of the new intensive school or kindergarten??? Both I think are very important to her overall developement. Go slow and steady. Don't set your child up for failure it's too easy to do with our kids. Let your child judge the pace as to how fast to move. -- In Autism_in_Girls , " Grace Keh " <gracekeh@c...> wrote: > To my understanding, your old IEP <and placement> remain in effect. > That is what happened with us last year. > > We had 1 hour of speech daily and the district tried to pull it 2 months > after we agreed to it, based on, " Well, Mrs. Lee, I don't know what I was > thinking that day, I thought it was bizarre to request daily speech but it > just slipped my mind. " > Well - - sorry, district, but I am not agreeing to your new > " recommendations " and since I did not agree and it was only for the summer > program that it was written into my IEP for - - - they had no choice but to > honor it. > > Debi, it's none of my business, really - - but what is the big deal about > what they are suggesting? > I know some parents even in my own district want mainstreaming, inclusion > and such in a hurry - - and I do understand LRE as well as why you feel the > way you do - - but ensuring the child's success is just as important, and > with autistic children, my personal take is that it is best to slowly and > consistently expose them to the new classroom until they are familiar with > it - THEN move them in. Granted, each child is different. But as my > children have " upgraded " in classes for the last 4 years - this has been the > very best approach where we have made sure it's #1 - the right fit indeed, > and #2 the child transitions flawlessly without a period of adjustment as we > phase out one atmosphere by exposing them more and more to the other. > > If the SD was not willing to put her in regular Kindergarten at all - I see > the issue and would fight also. But that is not the case here, is it? > > Trying Allie out in Kindy during the regular " CDC " day - - and finding out > exactly what she needs in such a placement <full-time aide? P/t? None? Or > perhaps NOT the right placement?> before putting her in the class altogether > is not such a bad deal. > If you have had tremendous issues with your SD, I suppose I can see what the > concern is about, but if they have been generally fair and decent about > placement in the past.... Well, it's like arguing over six or half a dozen > of something, no? > > > Grace > IEP question > > Let's say we don't get Allie's IEP worked out by the start of school. > Someone told me she thought we would go with the old IEP until a new one is > worked out. My question is that the current IEP is for a pre-K setting and > she will be 6 by the start of the new year and going into kindergarten. The > issue for us is inclusion in general ed with visits to sped vs. staying in > sped setting with visits into general ed. I'm wanting her to " try " general > ed kindergarten and pull out as needed; they want to put her in sped and > " try her " in k " as she can handle it " . > > If we don't have this thing worked out by the start of school, what will the > school do? Will they try to put her in a CDC class? My feeling is without an > IEP she should be a " regular " > kindergarten student until she has an IEP. Is this a correct feeling and a > legal one? > > TIA, > Debi > > 's Little Sister ISBN 1-4137-1724-1 www.debityree.com Some of our > families have been told to put their child into an institution. We're hoping > for Harvard. www.tacanow.org > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 I don't mean to but in but just want to relay my daughter's transition into kindergarten. It started in Oct. She is still not fully transitioned. She loves kindergarten but also needs structure of an intense program. She has the best of both worlds here. There are two types of parents. One that hurries transistions one that holds back to trying to keep their child in special ed. I'm the second type. I'd rather her get intensive ed. But I have to tell you I just may be all wrong on this. She has come 3 years worth in just one year. Is it because of the new intensive school or kindergarten??? Both I think are very important to her overall developement. Go slow and steady. Don't set your child up for failure it's too easy to do with our kids. Let your child judge the pace as to how fast to move. -- In Autism_in_Girls , " Grace Keh " <gracekeh@c...> wrote: > To my understanding, your old IEP <and placement> remain in effect. > That is what happened with us last year. > > We had 1 hour of speech daily and the district tried to pull it 2 months > after we agreed to it, based on, " Well, Mrs. Lee, I don't know what I was > thinking that day, I thought it was bizarre to request daily speech but it > just slipped my mind. " > Well - - sorry, district, but I am not agreeing to your new > " recommendations " and since I did not agree and it was only for the summer > program that it was written into my IEP for - - - they had no choice but to > honor it. > > Debi, it's none of my business, really - - but what is the big deal about > what they are suggesting? > I know some parents even in my own district want mainstreaming, inclusion > and such in a hurry - - and I do understand LRE as well as why you feel the > way you do - - but ensuring the child's success is just as important, and > with autistic children, my personal take is that it is best to slowly and > consistently expose them to the new classroom until they are familiar with > it - THEN move them in. Granted, each child is different. But as my > children have " upgraded " in classes for the last 4 years - this has been the > very best approach where we have made sure it's #1 - the right fit indeed, > and #2 the child transitions flawlessly without a period of adjustment as we > phase out one atmosphere by exposing them more and more to the other. > > If the SD was not willing to put her in regular Kindergarten at all - I see > the issue and would fight also. But that is not the case here, is it? > > Trying Allie out in Kindy during the regular " CDC " day - - and finding out > exactly what she needs in such a placement <full-time aide? P/t? None? Or > perhaps NOT the right placement?> before putting her in the class altogether > is not such a bad deal. > If you have had tremendous issues with your SD, I suppose I can see what the > concern is about, but if they have been generally fair and decent about > placement in the past.... Well, it's like arguing over six or half a dozen > of something, no? > > > Grace > IEP question > > Let's say we don't get Allie's IEP worked out by the start of school. > Someone told me she thought we would go with the old IEP until a new one is > worked out. My question is that the current IEP is for a pre-K setting and > she will be 6 by the start of the new year and going into kindergarten. The > issue for us is inclusion in general ed with visits to sped vs. staying in > sped setting with visits into general ed. I'm wanting her to " try " general > ed kindergarten and pull out as needed; they want to put her in sped and > " try her " in k " as she can handle it " . > > If we don't have this thing worked out by the start of school, what will the > school do? Will they try to put her in a CDC class? My feeling is without an > IEP she should be a " regular " > kindergarten student until she has an IEP. Is this a correct feeling and a > legal one? > > TIA, > Debi > > 's Little Sister ISBN 1-4137-1724-1 www.debityree.com Some of our > families have been told to put their child into an institution. We're hoping > for Harvard. www.tacanow.org > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 I don't mean to but in but just want to relay my daughter's transition into kindergarten. It started in Oct. She is still not fully transitioned. She loves kindergarten but also needs structure of an intense program. She has the best of both worlds here. There are two types of parents. One that hurries transistions one that holds back to trying to keep their child in special ed. I'm the second type. I'd rather her get intensive ed. But I have to tell you I just may be all wrong on this. She has come 3 years worth in just one year. Is it because of the new intensive school or kindergarten??? Both I think are very important to her overall developement. Go slow and steady. Don't set your child up for failure it's too easy to do with our kids. Let your child judge the pace as to how fast to move. -- In Autism_in_Girls , " Grace Keh " <gracekeh@c...> wrote: > To my understanding, your old IEP <and placement> remain in effect. > That is what happened with us last year. > > We had 1 hour of speech daily and the district tried to pull it 2 months > after we agreed to it, based on, " Well, Mrs. Lee, I don't know what I was > thinking that day, I thought it was bizarre to request daily speech but it > just slipped my mind. " > Well - - sorry, district, but I am not agreeing to your new > " recommendations " and since I did not agree and it was only for the summer > program that it was written into my IEP for - - - they had no choice but to > honor it. > > Debi, it's none of my business, really - - but what is the big deal about > what they are suggesting? > I know some parents even in my own district want mainstreaming, inclusion > and such in a hurry - - and I do understand LRE as well as why you feel the > way you do - - but ensuring the child's success is just as important, and > with autistic children, my personal take is that it is best to slowly and > consistently expose them to the new classroom until they are familiar with > it - THEN move them in. Granted, each child is different. But as my > children have " upgraded " in classes for the last 4 years - this has been the > very best approach where we have made sure it's #1 - the right fit indeed, > and #2 the child transitions flawlessly without a period of adjustment as we > phase out one atmosphere by exposing them more and more to the other. > > If the SD was not willing to put her in regular Kindergarten at all - I see > the issue and would fight also. But that is not the case here, is it? > > Trying Allie out in Kindy during the regular " CDC " day - - and finding out > exactly what she needs in such a placement <full-time aide? P/t? None? Or > perhaps NOT the right placement?> before putting her in the class altogether > is not such a bad deal. > If you have had tremendous issues with your SD, I suppose I can see what the > concern is about, but if they have been generally fair and decent about > placement in the past.... Well, it's like arguing over six or half a dozen > of something, no? > > > Grace > IEP question > > Let's say we don't get Allie's IEP worked out by the start of school. > Someone told me she thought we would go with the old IEP until a new one is > worked out. My question is that the current IEP is for a pre-K setting and > she will be 6 by the start of the new year and going into kindergarten. The > issue for us is inclusion in general ed with visits to sped vs. staying in > sped setting with visits into general ed. I'm wanting her to " try " general > ed kindergarten and pull out as needed; they want to put her in sped and > " try her " in k " as she can handle it " . > > If we don't have this thing worked out by the start of school, what will the > school do? Will they try to put her in a CDC class? My feeling is without an > IEP she should be a " regular " > kindergarten student until she has an IEP. Is this a correct feeling and a > legal one? > > TIA, > Debi > > 's Little Sister ISBN 1-4137-1724-1 www.debityree.com Some of our > families have been told to put their child into an institution. We're hoping > for Harvard. www.tacanow.org > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 She has been in sped preschool with visits to general ed K. Allie will not be in CDC until it is worked out, I can assure you of that... :-) Debi > Was she at this school last year? for pre-school. If so I bet they would put > her in CDC until the IEP is worked out. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 She has been in sped preschool with visits to general ed K. Allie will not be in CDC until it is worked out, I can assure you of that... :-) Debi > Was she at this school last year? for pre-school. If so I bet they would put > her in CDC until the IEP is worked out. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 She has been in sped preschool with visits to general ed K. Allie will not be in CDC until it is worked out, I can assure you of that... :-) Debi > Was she at this school last year? for pre-school. If so I bet they would put > her in CDC until the IEP is worked out. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Short answer, the current suggestion is not appropriate for Allie's educational needs. Best way to answer your question is why *not* try a fuller inclusion for a time and see how it goes? What's the harm in making sure fuller inclusion will not be her most appropriate placement? Why try it the other way, esp considering the law states to *start* in general ed, not to *start* in restrictive setting? What's the harm in trying it the way law dictates? Debi > Trying Allie out in Kindy during the regular " CDC " day - - and finding out > exactly what she needs in such a placement <full-time aide? P/t? None? Or > perhaps NOT the right placement?> before putting her in the class altogether > is not such a bad deal. > If you have had tremendous issues with your SD, I suppose I can see what the > concern is about, but if they have been generally fair and decent about > placement in the past.... Well, it's like arguing over six or half a dozen > of something, no? > > > Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Short answer, the current suggestion is not appropriate for Allie's educational needs. Best way to answer your question is why *not* try a fuller inclusion for a time and see how it goes? What's the harm in making sure fuller inclusion will not be her most appropriate placement? Why try it the other way, esp considering the law states to *start* in general ed, not to *start* in restrictive setting? What's the harm in trying it the way law dictates? Debi > Trying Allie out in Kindy during the regular " CDC " day - - and finding out > exactly what she needs in such a placement <full-time aide? P/t? None? Or > perhaps NOT the right placement?> before putting her in the class altogether > is not such a bad deal. > If you have had tremendous issues with your SD, I suppose I can see what the > concern is about, but if they have been generally fair and decent about > placement in the past.... Well, it's like arguing over six or half a dozen > of something, no? > > > Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Short answer, the current suggestion is not appropriate for Allie's educational needs. Best way to answer your question is why *not* try a fuller inclusion for a time and see how it goes? What's the harm in making sure fuller inclusion will not be her most appropriate placement? Why try it the other way, esp considering the law states to *start* in general ed, not to *start* in restrictive setting? What's the harm in trying it the way law dictates? Debi > Trying Allie out in Kindy during the regular " CDC " day - - and finding out > exactly what she needs in such a placement <full-time aide? P/t? None? Or > perhaps NOT the right placement?> before putting her in the class altogether > is not such a bad deal. > If you have had tremendous issues with your SD, I suppose I can see what the > concern is about, but if they have been generally fair and decent about > placement in the past.... Well, it's like arguing over six or half a dozen > of something, no? > > > Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 That's great you've found a program to work with your daughter. I wish we had a good intensive program in the k-5 grade, Allie had intensive 3 & 4 yr old programming. The push for the programming I am requesting is slow and steady, appropriate for her needs. Debi > > Go slow and steady. Don't set your child up for failure it's too > easy to do with our kids. Let your child judge the pace as to how > fast to move. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 That's great you've found a program to work with your daughter. I wish we had a good intensive program in the k-5 grade, Allie had intensive 3 & 4 yr old programming. The push for the programming I am requesting is slow and steady, appropriate for her needs. Debi > > Go slow and steady. Don't set your child up for failure it's too > easy to do with our kids. Let your child judge the pace as to how > fast to move. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 That's great you've found a program to work with your daughter. I wish we had a good intensive program in the k-5 grade, Allie had intensive 3 & 4 yr old programming. The push for the programming I am requesting is slow and steady, appropriate for her needs. Debi > > Go slow and steady. Don't set your child up for failure it's too > easy to do with our kids. Let your child judge the pace as to how > fast to move. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Debi, I didn't mean to hit a nerve with my suggestions. Like I said, it's none of my business and you do what you feel is correct. I apologize. Grace >> Re: IEP question >> >>Short answer, the current suggestion is not appropriate for >>Allie's educational needs. Best way to answer your question >>is why *not* try a fuller inclusion for a time and see how it >>goes? What's the harm in making sure fuller inclusion will >>not be her most appropriate placement? Why try it the other >>way, esp considering the law states to >>*start* in general ed, not to *start* in restrictive setting? >>What's the harm in trying it the way law dictates? >> >>Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Grace, no offense taken at all. I just don't understand why they are so adamently opposed to a trial run in kindergarten because I think she would make the adjustment faster than the opposite way. considering the law is on my side and every parent I've talked to with older children in my district tell me they feel their children who were not in full inclusion would not be having the problems with " catching up " academically if they had been in inclusion, I just don't get the reason why, except for they don't want to provide the $$ to make it happen. They have yet to give me a good reason for not trying it. I have stated, " Let's try it for six weeks and see how she does " and they don't want to try it. I'm really baffled at why not. Debi > Debi, > I didn't mean to hit a nerve with my suggestions. Like I said, it's none of > my business and you do what you feel is correct. > I apologize. > > Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Does anyone know if the school keeps a child’s IEP on record from year to year? I would assume yet. We had an incident a week ago and I am trying to find my copy of last years IEP. We had our house up for sale and got a storage unit. Of course nothing is in order in that unit so we have to go out there and dig. I assume I can get a copy from the school. Our 12 year old daughter has moderate AAI. I was not going to let her go on a roller skating trip with her class for obvious reasons. I called and told her special ed teacher. He assured me if I let her go she would not be on skates. Spoke to him by phone. He said he was going to take other things along for the kids who could not skate, they were going to Mc’s and she would enjoy the trip even if she was not skating. He would keep her OFF of the skates. Ok great! I turned in the permission slip so she could go with her class with the assurance she would NOT be on skates. She got home the day of the trip and had some ugly marks on her arm. We questioned her and she said the teacher did it when he was holding onto her arm when she was SKATING! I have 3 witnesses. My respite provider and two employees who work for our counties individuals with disabilities and their families. We contacted the school and have been corresponding by e-mail (love e-mail!) took pictures, got ANOTHER note from the doctor for the school about the AAI, I checked her previous IEP’s that I could find here at home and in every one the AAI is noted. Teacher is trying to turn this back onto me saying he thought since I turned in the permission slip it was ok for her to skate. This morning we are headed to the lawyers office with the e-mail, pictures, previous IEP’s, and a note from her doctor. When we first enrolled her in school we provided all of her medical information to them. A letter from her doctor about her AAI and the restrictions she has for certain activities. So anyway I am just wondering if the school saves IEPS from year to year. I’d like to see last years. This is a new teacher and this year has been just awful. He is smarter than the parents of course. He wanted to give the experience of skating. I think that would be the place of her father and myself to decide if it is worth the risk. There are many things in life we don’t get to experience. I have MS and have never gone water skiing. I doubt I ever will. A child’s safety is more important than experiencing being on roller skates. Anyway………..we are not happy. The school response has been that he has been talked to…not good enough. My kids will NOT be in his class room. Being that this is a small school and there is only one special Ed teacher this could cause a problem. I have 4 children with Downs in that school system and they are letter teachers go because of budget problems. It will be interesting to see how they respond to this. I am not the only parent upset with this guy but I seem to be the only one willing to take any action. Sorry this ended up being long. Lee Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Hi and good luck....The school does have copies of older IEP's just becareful as I have known people how's IEP has been changed....I have learned through the years that there are no phone calls it is always done in writing. I am hoping and praying that you have better luck than myself with people wanting to speak up so in the end they will have to talk when it all goes to court on our end. We are in Los Angeles Unified and have met with so many problems including abuse to my daughter and her friend's working dog that can go everywhere cause that's the law has not been allowed on the campus by the principle, who ya would think knows the ADA laws. Just keep up the fight its for our kids after all. Rhonda†Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] IEP questionTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 5:56 AM Does anyone know if the school keeps a child’s IEP on record from year to year? I would assume yet. We had an incident a week ago and I am trying to find my copy of last years IEP. We had our house up for sale and got a storage unit. Of course nothing is in order in that unit so we have to go out there and dig. I assume I can get a copy from the school. Our 12 year old daughter has moderate AAI. I was not going to let her go on a roller skating trip with her class for obvious reasons. I called and told her special ed teacher. He assured me if I let her go she would not be on skates. Spoke to him by phone. He said he was going to take other things along for the kids who could not skate, they were going to Mc ’s and she would enjoy the trip even if she was not skating. He would keep her OFF of the skates. Ok great! I turned in the permission slip so she could go with her class with the assurance she would NOT be on skates. She got home the day of the trip and had some ugly marks on her arm. We questioned her and she said the teacher did it when he was holding onto her arm when she was SKATING! I have 3 witnesses. My respite provider and two employees who work for our counties individuals with disabilities and their families. We contacted the school and have been corresponding by e-mail (love e-mail!) took pictures, got ANOTHER note from the doctor for the school about the AAI, I checked her previous IEP’s that I could find here at home and in every one the AAI is noted. Teacher is trying to turn this back onto me saying he thought since I turned in the permission slip it was ok for her to skate. This morning we are headed to the lawyers office with the e-mail, pictures, previous IEP’s, and a note from her doctor. When we first enrolled her in school we provided all of her medical information to them. A letter from her doctor about her AAI and the restrictions she has for certain activities. So anyway I am just wondering if the school saves IEPS from year to year. I’d like to see last years. This is a new teacher and this year has been just awful. He is smarter than the parents of course. He wanted to give the experience of skating. I think that would be the place of her father and myself to decide if it is worth the risk. There are many things in life we don’t get to experience. I have MS and have never gone water skiing. I doubt I ever will. A child’s safety is more important than experiencing being on roller skates. Anyway………..we are not happy. The school response has been that he has been talked to…not good enough. My kids will NOT be in his class room. Being that this is a small school and there is only one special Ed teacher this could cause a problem. I have 4 children with Downs in that school system and they are letter teachers go because of budget problems. It will be interesting to see how they respond to this. I am not the only parent upset with this guy but I seem to be the only one willing to take any action. Sorry this ended up being long. Lee Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I called the school and asked for her past 3 years of IEP's...I know, I should have been more careful in keeping track of them here. But I do have her first 3 years IEP's so that is good. I don't know what the school is going to do. I do not want to go to court and do not want any money, I just want them to listen and follow through when I give them important information. AAI is not just a small issue. Should I have written my no skating request down...probably but should I have NEEDED to write it on the slip...NO. We had a conversation and an agreement if I would allow her to go along. He should have followed through on his word. He is not one to be trusted. This is his first year so even IF the fact he took her roller skating becomes my word or his word, he left an ugly bruise on her arm and we have pictures and witnesses. And said it was her teacher who did it. is a very high functioning girl. All I can say is the whole thing stinks. Lee Ann > > > > Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoEdromeInfoExchange] IEP question > To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 5:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > >  Does anyone know if the school keeps a child’s IEP on record from year to year? I would assume yet. > We had an incident a week ago and I am trying to find my copy of last years IEP. We had our house up for sale and got a storage unit. Of course nothing is in order in that unit so we have to go out there and dig. I assume I can get a copy from the school. > Our 12 year old daughter has moderate AAI. I was not going to let her go on a roller skating trip with her class for obvious reasons. I called and told her special ed teacher. He assured me if I let her go she would not be on skates. Spoke to him by phone. He said he was going to take other things along for the kids who could not skate, they were going to Mc ’s and she would enjoy the trip even if she was not skating. He would keep her OFF of the skates. Ok great! I turned in the permission slip so she could go with her class with the assurance she would NOT be on skates. > She got home the day of the trip and had some ugly marks on her arm. We questioned her and she said the teacher did it when he was holding onto her arm when she was SKATING! I have 3 witnesses. My respite provider and two employees who work for our counties individuals with disabilities and their families. > We contacted the school and have been corresponding by e-mail (love e-mail!) took pictures, got ANOTHER note from the doctor for the school about the AAI, I checked her previous IEP’s that I could find here at home and in every one the AAI is noted. > Teacher is trying to turn this back onto me saying he thought since I turned in the permission slip it was ok for her to skate. > This morning we are headed to the lawyers office with the e-mail, pictures, previous IEP’s, and a note from her doctor. When we first enrolled her in school we provided all of her medical information to them. A letter from her doctor about her AAI and the restrictions she has for certain activities. So anyway I am just wondering if the school saves IEPS from year to year. I’d like to see last years. > This is a new teacher and this year has been just awful. He is smarter than the parents of course. He wanted to give the experience of skating. I think that would be the place of her father and myself to decide if it is worth the risk. There are many things in life we don’t get to experience. I have MS and have never gone water skiing. I doubt I ever will. A child’s safety is more important than experiencing being on roller skates. Anyway………..we are not happy. > The school response has been that he has been talked to…not good enough. My kids will NOT be in his class room. Being that this is a small school and there is only one special Ed teacher this could cause a problem. I have 4 children with Downs in that school system and they are letter teachers go because of budget problems. It will be interesting to see how they respond to this. I am not the only parent upset with this guy but I seem to be the only one willing to take any action. > Sorry this ended up being long. >  > Lee Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 LeeAnn, It sure does stink, and what is said is that most not all teacher's or aids think they can get away with what they are doing because nobody does anything about it. With my daughter teaching her what is abuse is very heard even though she tells me everything she still thinks its okay.. I have been in the SDC class with her since preschool and I am getting ready to put her in inclusion due to the lack of teaching done in the present SDC class and the number of years it takes to get the teacher's moved due to there union's... Love teacher';s have a son that is a teacher but theres is the only job that after 5 years you can't get them out. No other job in this country does it work that way and it should not work that way for the teacher's either. Good luck and stay with it. * you should be able to file with the state you live in against there creditionals my son says they don't like those strikes" Rhonda†Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: IEP questionTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 10:58 AM I called the school and asked for her past 3 years of IEP's...I know, I should have been more careful in keeping track of them here. But I do have her first 3 years IEP's so that is good. I don't know what the school is going to do. I do not want to go to court and do not want any money, I just want them to listen and follow through when I give them important information. AAI is not just a small issue.Should I have written my no skating request down...probably but should I have NEEDED to write it on the slip...NO. We had a conversation and an agreement if I would allow her to go along. He should have followed through on his word. He is not one to be trusted. This is his first year so even IF the fact he took her roller skating becomes my word or his word, he left an ugly bruise on her arm and we have pictures and witnesses. And said it was her teacher who did it. is a very high functioning girl. All I can say is the whole thing stinks. Lee Ann> > > From: Lee Ann Walter <lee.ann@... >> Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoEd romeInfoExchange ] IEP question> To: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 5:56 AM> > > > > > > > > > >  Does anyone know if the school keeps a child’s IEP on record from year to year? I would assume yet. > We had an incident a week ago and I am trying to find my copy of last years IEP. We had our house up for sale and got a storage unit. Of course nothing is in order in that unit so we have to go out there and dig. I assume I can get a copy from the school.> Our 12 year old daughter has moderate AAI. I was not going to let her go on a roller skating trip with her class for obvious reasons. I called and told her special ed teacher. He assured me if I let her go she would not be on skates. Spoke to him by phone. He said he was going to take other things along for the kids who could not skate, they were going to Mc ’s and she would enjoy the trip even if she was not skating. He would keep her OFF of the skates. Ok great! I turned in the permission slip so she could go with her class with the assurance she would NOT be on skates.> She got home the day of the trip and had some ugly marks on her arm. We questioned her and she said the teacher did it when he was holding onto her arm when she was SKATING! I have 3 witnesses. My respite provider and two employees who work for our counties individuals with disabilities and their families. > We contacted the school and have been corresponding by e-mail (love e-mail!) took pictures, got ANOTHER note from the doctor for the school about the AAI, I checked her previous IEP’s that I could find here at home and in every one the AAI is noted.> Teacher is trying to turn this back onto me saying he thought since I turned in the permission slip it was ok for her to skate. > This morning we are headed to the lawyers office with the e-mail, pictures, previous IEP’s, and a note from her doctor. When we first enrolled her in school we provided all of her medical information to them. A letter from her doctor about her AAI and the restrictions she has for certain activities. So anyway I am just wondering if the school saves IEPS from year to year. I’d like to see last years.> This is a new teacher and this year has been just awful. He is smarter than the parents of course. He wanted to give the experience of skating. I think that would be the place of her father and myself to decide if it is worth the risk. There are many things in life we don’t get to experience. I have MS and have never gone water skiing. I doubt I ever will. A child’s safety is more important than experiencing being on roller skates. Anyway………..we are not happy.> The school response has been that he has been talked to…not good enough. My kids will NOT be in his class room. Being that this is a small school and there is only one special Ed teacher this could cause a problem. I have 4 children with Downs in that school system and they are letter teachers go because of budget problems. It will be interesting to see how they respond to this. I am not the only parent upset with this guy but I seem to be the only one willing to take any action. > Sorry this ended up being long. >  > Lee Ann> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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