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In a round about way I can see what you mean. Their posts are very sharp and

abrupt. Whether they are trying to hurt us intentionally or not I have no

idea.

Yes the moderated should be able to put them on moderated status. Which

means all of their posts have to go thru the mod and be approved before we

see them.

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Missy, from Peggy

> Hi Missy,

>

> I just went back and read some of his posts. I think he /she is

> trying to contribute in an off beat way. also mentioned that he/she

> was GF/CF for three years. I'm willing to bet this person is on the

> spectrum and just doesn't get it. Can't the moderator make contact

> and give this person some guidelines. I'm not computer savy so maybe

> its not possible.

>

> Peggy

>

>

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Wait a minute here.. Im getting a little upset about some of the things that you guys are posting about this person. You dont know them and really dont even know if they are on the spectrum. If you dont like what they are posting then dont read it and dont respond!!!

If they are on the spectrum then maybe we as parents should listen to what they are saying because they are living it and most of us arent. If they have been put on these drugs then we should really listen. WHY? Because most of us dont know what its like to be on most of these drugs and NONE of us know what the long term affects are as most of the drugs are not tested and are not approved by the FDA for use in children.

Everyone has different opinions and in a way there are different reasons why people take medications, drugs whatever you want to call them. To say medication is not a drug??? What is that about. WHO cares if you call them meds or drugs..

Ritalin is more potent than cocaine and its being used on children without the long term effects known yet parents and physicians constantly give these children this drug.

If this person has the view that drugs are not appropriate then that is their opinion. Its not wrong, its just not what some of you agree with.

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That is what I am trying to say!! If you read one of my emails you would see that none us, but the person, knows why they are here on the list. We don't know if the person themselves is on the spectrum or has a family member on the spectrum. We don't know if they have been burned by the medical profession, either. their emails tend to have a biting edge to them and that is what gets to the readers of the posts.

Meds? Drugs? It's the same thing, it is just how this person presented it. I would love to know more about this person to be honest. A name would be a start.

As you recall the first email I sent was if you don't want to read it then delete it. For some people they know as soon as they see who the sender is start getting upset. It's not worth it.

MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!!

Excuse Me While I Go Raise Tomorrow's Future.

RE: Missy, from Peggy

Wait a minute here.. Im getting a little upset about some of the things that you guys are posting about this person. You dont know them and really dont even know if they are on the spectrum. If you dont like what they are posting then dont read it and dont respond!!!

If they are on the spectrum then maybe we as parents should listen to what they are saying because they are living it and most of us arent. If they have been put on these drugs then we should really listen. WHY? Because most of us dont know what its like to be on most of these drugs and NONE of us know what the long term affects are as most of the drugs are not tested and are not approved by the FDA for use in children.

Everyone has different opinions and in a way there are different reasons why people take medications, drugs whatever you want to call them. To say medication is not a drug??? What is that about. WHO cares if you call them meds or drugs..

Ritalin is more potent than cocaine and its being used on children without the long term effects known yet parents and physicians constantly give these children this drug.

If this person has the view that drugs are not appropriate then that is their opinion. Its not wrong, its just not what some of you agree with.

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Oh.. im sorry then.. I thought you guys were saying this person should not be allowed to speak in this group.. apparently im not following this entire line of posts at all, lol.

Sorry Missy and Peggy.. I truly apologize..

Ding dong is anyone home in my head today?? Apparently not ;)

-----Original Message-----From: Missy Feldhaus Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:36 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: Missy, from Peggy

That is what I am trying to say!! If you read one of my emails you would see that none us, but the person, knows why they are here on the list. We don't know if the person themselves is on the spectrum or has a family member on the spectrum. We don't know if they have been burned by the medical profession, either. their emails tend to have a biting edge to them and that is what gets to the readers of the posts.

Meds? Drugs? It's the same thing, it is just how this person presented it. I would love to know more about this person to be honest. A name would be a start.

As you recall the first email I sent was if you don't want to read it then delete it. For some people they know as soon as they see who the sender is start getting upset. It's not worth it.

MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!!

Excuse Me While I Go Raise Tomorrow's Future.

RE: Missy, from Peggy

Wait a minute here.. Im getting a little upset about some of the things that you guys are posting about this person. You dont know them and really dont even know if they are on the spectrum. If you dont like what they are posting then dont read it and dont respond!!!

If they are on the spectrum then maybe we as parents should listen to what they are saying because they are living it and most of us arent. If they have been put on these drugs then we should really listen. WHY? Because most of us dont know what its like to be on most of these drugs and NONE of us know what the long term affects are as most of the drugs are not tested and are not approved by the FDA for use in children.

Everyone has different opinions and in a way there are different reasons why people take medications, drugs whatever you want to call them. To say medication is not a drug??? What is that about. WHO cares if you call them meds or drugs..

Ritalin is more potent than cocaine and its being used on children without the long term effects known yet parents and physicians constantly give these children this drug.

If this person has the view that drugs are not appropriate then that is their opinion. Its not wrong, its just not what some of you agree with.

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Heheee, I got rattled about something in another club last week and

things were very similar. It's exactly why I have that love/hate

relationship with the internet. I luv to have everyone at my

fingertips (smile) but keeping everything in context get's

complicated sometimes.

In autism-aspergers , " TK " <torrieka12@a...> wrote:

> Oh.. im sorry then.. I thought you guys were saying this person

should not

> be allowed to speak in this group.. apparently im not following

this entire

> line of posts at all, lol.

>

> Sorry Missy and Peggy.. I truly apologize..

>

>

> Ding dong is anyone home in my head today?? Apparently not ;)

> Re: Missy, from Peggy

>

>

> That is what I am trying to say!! If you read one of my emails

you would

> see that none us, but the person, knows why they are here on the

list. We

> don't know if the person themselves is on the spectrum or has a

family

> member on the spectrum. We don't know if they have been burned by

the

> medical profession, either. their emails tend to have a biting edge

to them

> and that is what gets to the readers of the posts.

>

> Meds? Drugs? It's the same thing, it is just how this person

presented it.

> I would love to know more about this person to be honest. A name

would be a

> start.

>

> As you recall the first email I sent was if you don't want to

read it then

> delete it. For some people they know as soon as they see who the

sender is

> start getting upset. It's not worth it.

>

>

> MISSY

> SAHM to some special kids!!!

>

> Excuse Me While I Go

> Raise Tomorrow's Future.

> RE: Missy, from Peggy

>

>

> Wait a minute here.. Im getting a little upset about some of

the things

> that you guys are posting about this person. You dont know them

and really

> dont even know if they are on the spectrum. If you dont like what

they are

> posting then dont read it and dont respond!!!

>

> If they are on the spectrum then maybe we as parents should

listen to

> what they are saying because they are living it and most of us

arent. If

> they have been put on these drugs then we should really listen.

WHY?

> Because most of us dont know what its like to be on most of these

drugs and

> NONE of us know what the long term affects are as most of the drugs

are not

> tested and are not approved by the FDA for use in children.

>

> Everyone has different opinions and in a way there are

different reasons

> why people take medications, drugs whatever you want to call them.

To say

> medication is not a drug??? What is that about. WHO cares if you

call

> them meds or drugs..

>

> Ritalin is more potent than cocaine and its being used on

children

> without the long term effects known yet parents and physicians

constantly

> give these children this drug.

>

> If this person has the view that drugs are not appropriate then

that is

> their opinion. Its not wrong, its just not what some of you agree

with.

>

>

>

>

>

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LOLOL Now worries.

MISSYSAHM to some special kids!!!

Excuse Me While I Go Raise Tomorrow's Future.

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Wait a minute here.. Im getting a little upset about some of the things that you guys are posting about this person. You dont know them and really dont even know if they are on the spectrum. If you dont like what they are posting then dont read it and dont respond!!!

If they are on the spectrum then maybe we as parents should listen to what they are saying because they are living it and most of us arent. If they have been put on these drugs then we should really listen. WHY? Because most of us dont know what its like to be on most of these drugs and NONE of us know what the long term affects are as most of the drugs are not tested and are not approved by the FDA for use in children.

Everyone has different opinions and in a way there are different reasons why people take medications, drugs whatever you want to call them. To say medication is not a drug??? What is that about. WHO cares if you call them meds or drugs..

Ritalin is more potent than cocaine and its being used on children without the long term effects known yet parents and physicians constantly give these children this drug.

If this person has the view that drugs are not appropriate then that is their opinion. Its not wrong, its just not what some of you agree with.

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The first thing a person with nothing to say wants you to know is their name. The second thing they want you to know is that they have nothing to say and are proud of it. The third thing they want you to know is that they want to shut up everybody who isn't their personal cheerleader.

Every drug (med, if you prefer) is a poison, so poisonous that the drug companies spent more dollars on advertising and marketing than on research and testing. The crap is legal (just like booze and cigarettes) because money grubbing profiteer pharmaceutical pushers buy and own Congressmen and because there is a forever-naive, know-nothing sucker born every minute.

RE: Missy, from Peggy

Wait a minute here.. Im getting a little upset about some of the things that you guys are posting about this person. You dont know them and really dont even know if they are on the spectrum. If you dont like what they are posting then dont read it and dont respond!!!

If they are on the spectrum then maybe we as parents should listen to what they are saying because they are living it and most of us arent. If they have been put on these drugs then we should really listen. WHY? Because most of us dont know what its like to be on most of these drugs and NONE of us know what the long term affects are as most of the drugs are not tested and are not approved by the FDA for use in children.

Everyone has different opinions and in a way there are different reasons why people take medications, drugs whatever you want to call them. To say medication is not a drug??? What is that about. WHO cares if you call them meds or drugs..

Ritalin is more potent than cocaine and its being used on children without the long term effects known yet parents and physicians constantly give these children this drug.

If this person has the view that drugs are not appropriate then that is their opinion. Its not wrong, its just not what some of you agree with.

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Moderated status means a censored list.

You then only hear what the owner and sidekicks want you to read. It no longer is a list but a propaganda tool for three or four people preaching to all who join, without the victims even knowing they've been had. Welcome to big brotherville.

Missy, from Peggy> Hi Missy,>> I just went back and read some of his posts. I think he /she is> trying to contribute in an off beat way. also mentioned that he/she> was GF/CF for three years. I'm willing to bet this person is on the> spectrum and just doesn't get it. Can't the moderator make contact> and give this person some guidelines. I'm not computer savy so maybe> its not possible.>> Peggy>>>>

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If a researchers main goal is to be polite, we'd all still be living in caves.

If Louis Pasteur had let the milkmaids run him out of town, your grandparents would have died of small pox before birthing your mom.

There is a pre-delete button on your computer; feel free to pre-delete all messages I contribute -- before you melt.

Missy, from Peggy

Hi Missy,I just went back and read some of his posts. I think he /she is trying to contribute in an off beat way. also mentioned that he/she was GF/CF for three years. I'm willing to bet this person is on the spectrum and just doesn't get it. Can't the moderator make contact and give this person some guidelines. I'm not computer savy so maybe its not possible.Peggy

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** The first thing a person with nothing to say wants you to know is their name. The second thing they want you to know is that they have nothing to say and are proud of it. The third thing they want you to know is that they want to shut up everybody who isn't their personal cheerleader.***

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Ok now I see. I have for sure almost read that exact quote on another list. Not to me, but in general on a list. Mhev I bet your on other lists where people have similar views as yours.

Why this list? Why did you join?

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RE: Missy, from Peggy

Wait a minute here.. Im getting a little upset about some of the things that you guys are posting about this person. You dont know them and really dont even know if they are on the spectrum. If you dont like what they are posting then dont read it and dont respond!!!

If they are on the spectrum then maybe we as parents should listen to what they are saying because they are living it and most of us arent. If they have been put on these drugs then we should really listen. WHY? Because most of us dont know what its like to be on most of these drugs and NONE of us know what the long term affects are as most of the drugs are not tested and are not approved by the FDA for use in children.

Everyone has different opinions and in a way there are different reasons why people take medications, drugs whatever you want to call them. To say medication is not a drug??? What is that about. WHO cares if you call them meds or drugs..

Ritalin is more potent than cocaine and its being used on children without the long term effects known yet parents and physicians constantly give these children this drug.

If this person has the view that drugs are not appropriate then that is their opinion. Its not wrong, its just not what some of you agree with.

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I bring sunshine and knowledge wherever I go.

You are in the process of seeing who the meanies are on this list. Surely you are not saying you want to stay ignorant!!

RE: Missy, from Peggy

Wait a minute here.. Im getting a little upset about some of the things that you guys are posting about this person. You dont know them and really dont even know if they are on the spectrum. If you dont like what they are posting then dont read it and dont respond!!!

If they are on the spectrum then maybe we as parents should listen to what they are saying because they are living it and most of us arent. If they have been put on these drugs then we should really listen. WHY? Because most of us dont know what its like to be on most of these drugs and NONE of us know what the long term affects are as most of the drugs are not tested and are not approved by the FDA for use in children.

Everyone has different opinions and in a way there are different reasons why people take medications, drugs whatever you want to call them. To say medication is not a drug??? What is that about. WHO cares if you call them meds or drugs..

Ritalin is more potent than cocaine and its being used on children without the long term effects known yet parents and physicians constantly give these children this drug.

If this person has the view that drugs are not appropriate then that is their opinion. Its not wrong, its just not what some of you agree with.

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mhev insisted:

>

> The first thing a person with nothing to say wants you to know is their

name. The second thing they want you to know is that they have nothing to say

> and are proud of it. The third thing they want you to know is that they want

to shut up everybody who isn't their personal cheerleader.

>

> Every drug (med, if you prefer) is a poison, so poisonous that the drug

companies spent more dollars on advertising and marketing than on research

> and testing. The crap is legal (just like booze and cigarettes) because money

grubbing profiteer pharmaceutical pushers buy and own Congressmen and

> because there is a forever-naive, know-nothing sucker born every minute.

This is not usenet. This is not a newsgroup. This is a listserv full

of people with the same interest: how to make life better for their

autistic kids/young adults/spouses/selves. Please go and build your

strawmen elsewhere. The waters here are not amenable to trolling.

Annie, who loves ya annie@...

" Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps. "

Emo Philips

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