Guest guest Posted November 29, 2002 Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 To which wand to you refer? http://www.crystalheaven.com/Vogel%20Mineral%20Wands%20Pictures.htm Jim Lambert wrote: > > Nina, > > Heavy metals aren't necessary to make one feel edgy. It is axiomatic in > Chinese medicine that when pain is involved the meridian is over-energy. > So, all magnets would need to do in time is interrupt normal grounding, > or add to the body's electric. (pun intended) Either way, energy would > build up in the individual & a vague edginess would be likely. > > When I drive cross-country I get a lot of neck & back pain from sitting > still so long. I get extremely over-energy. I have a 2 pound crystal in > my car, I call it my " big honker. " I use the yin end to suck over-energy > (pain) out of an area, & the yang end like a laser to add energy, > jump-starting a sluggish meridian. Doing this in sunlight with a large > Vogel wand, I call it solar crystal charging. One can feel the body take > on energy, especially at the 2nd, 3rd & 4th chakras. So far, I have only > felt it this intensely using a large Vogel wand. They do seem more > potent than natural crystals. > > jim > > Nina Silver wrote: > > >Hi Saul. > >Did you ever give this feedback to Dean Bonlie? > > > >One might think that you of all people, with your ready access to ozone saunas, > >would NOT be toxified from heavy metals -- so I wonder why you had that > >response. Perhaps you were loaded with certain chemicals and didn't know it. > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2002 Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 Well I finally got to my computer today. A lot of lively discussion on magnetic sleep pads. Nina was correct in passing on Dr. Bonlie's comments that someone south of the equator would reverse the sleep pad. He told me the same thing. I was very interested in those who shared their negative experiences with the unified negative field sleep pad that goes under the mattress. I have sold many of these particular sleep pads and had three people only with any problems and that includes Nina. I get to hear of problems because people have six months to return them if unsatisfied and I lose my commission:>) I find the mercury toxicity issue an interesting one. Some members of my family have mouths full of amalgams and a friend has so many her teeth are " silver " . None of them experienced any mercury detoxification. Everyone is an individual. That is why I am so happy with the MagnetiCo satisfaction guarantee of six months return. I have had repeat customers who have purchased for their children and have had people who have upgraded to the Starter Core or Super Bed. I have 12 family members on these magnetic sleep pads and remember I make no money on those. I don't think I would sell them to my family including grandchildren if I wasn't pretty sure of their value and safety. None of these people has had any problems with detoxification other than a little fatigue when they first got them including myself. I have no answer to Saul's posting. I would have hoped he had checked with Dean Bonlie who is very open and willing to solving any problems. At least that is my experience over five years. Given what I have been taught, what I observed radionically, and the observations of the biofeedback practitioner, I would not suggest anyone " make a comforter " with magnets in it nor purchase a magnetic sleep pad that went on " top " of the mattress. This is just my opinion. Dr. Bonlie is President of the North American Magnetic Therapy Association and is very involved in research. I consider him a knowledgeable and trustworthy person. I know that he and Dr. Philpott disagree on some points. Dr. Philpott is aging and may not be able to accept the new information. That is only my guess. If one has seen the Dr. Bruce Lipton videos, you will understand how it is difficult for scientists to change their views and how science has been wrong in cell biology. That helps me to understand Dr. Philpott and his struggle as I understand it, with Dr. Bonlie's theories. Members of this list involved with ozone also know how hard it is to change minds and perceptions. Many people have been encouraging Dean to write a book. At present, he refers people to Dr. Becker's books to learn about magnetism. It is of interest to me that the National Institute of Health is funding a study with the Super Beds. It is being arranged as I write. It will probably take 2 years or more before it gets to a journal. There must be something good about the MagnetiCo! Nina was correct in stating that the MagnetiCo sleep pad is a licensed medical device in Canada and can be deducted from income tax. Sadly for my chiropractor, the visits I haven't needed due to the magnetic pad have helped me to pay for it. Plus all the other benefits I feel I have realized. In the end, it is a personal choice and decision depending on many factors. The people who have upgraded have obviously felt the magnetic sleep pads are valuable. In a couple of weeks, I should have CD's made from a video that I am willing to send out on request. Hopefully I have addressed all the issues from my point of view. I have appreciated the many comments. Kallie www.4optimallife.com Products and services to enhance your health and life. Water Ionizers, Magnetic Sleep Pads, Accutone CDs, Zappers, Energy Therapies - EFT, ERT. Re: Magnetic sleep pad > Ron, > > No. The north-seeking side of a bi-polar magnet is calming, the > South-seeking side is exciting. The excitement from magnetism & Em of > all sorts is most powerful in acting on fast-replicating cells. High > frequency EM increases the growth rate of cancer cells 600%! From Nina's > anecdotes, possibly no-frequency magnetism also speeds it. Jim, Actually, Dean Bonlie DOES say that for people living South of the equator, the situation is reversed. I would love to hear from Kallie at this point. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2002 Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 Hi Saul With you and your father having the negative experiences, why did not return them with the six-month satisfaction guarantee? I am of course assuming that a few months is less than six. Kallie www.4optimallife.com Products and services to enhance your health and life. Water Ionizers, Magnetic Sleep Pads, Accutone CDs, Zappers, Energy Therapies - EFT, ERT. Re: Magnetic sleep pad Dear Nina, My experience parallels yours. I bought a Magnetico mattress from Dr. Bonlie in 1995, and was a dealer for them briefly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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