All over body rash - Olive leaf extract??

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My son who is 8 years old, with regressive autism, a history of

colitis and LNH of the ileum, and on Step I of the Yasko protocol

developed a horrible full body rash last night and this morning.

This is a first ever rash he has ever had and he rarely gets sick.

The only other rash he had was when he had a tummy rash of a totally

different appearance when had at 3 yo when chelating with oral DMSA.

That rash was fine; this one is blotchy and welty.

I am wondering if Olive Leaf extract could be responsible.

I gave him 1 OLE (a capsule of the Life Flo brand) and 1 Caprylic on

Wednesday late afternoon. I noticed nothing that day. I gave him

the same doses on Thursday afternoon. The OLE is new, the caprylic

is not.

On Thursday evening around 8 pm, I noticed a raised welty looking

rash on his mid to lower back concentrated along his spine and

spreading out more diffusely to his hips, torso, groin, and thighs.

By morning he had a rash all over his entire body including face,

arms, legs, neck and scalp. Most of it looks like hives, some looks

like erythema mutiforme. The rash is itchy. He has no fever and

though he is a little foggier today, he is still pretty active and up

and about. His face and eyes appear a bit swollen today, and he

complained about his eyes this morning.

I took him to the pediatrician this morning who confirmed it was not

chicken pox or roseola, and said it looked like hives and some spots

of erythema multiforme. He said it could be caused form just about

anything including an allergy to a food, environmental trigger, an

antibiotic he just came off of, or a virus, etc. Basically he sent

me home with directions to give benedryl as needed and to stop any

possible provokers including herbs, novel supplements, or antibiotics.

Some possibilities come to mind. just finished up a 2 week

course of Septra (trimethoprim sulfamethaxazole) and had his last

dose the day before the rash. He has seen Septra before several

years ago and I noted neither rash then, nor any rash while he was on

it this time (only good things behaviorally), but the pediatrician

said it could still be a delayed reaction to the antibiotic. My

thought is that perhaps the Septra brought his bacterial/protozoa

load down enough that his body could mount an immune reaction to

latent virus in his system, which was precipitated by OLE. Another

possibility is that and some other children were rolling down

a grassy hill late yesterday and perhaps the grass was sprayed with

chemicals and he is having an allergic reaction to the chemicals or

tot he grass itself.

None of the other children seem to be affected though including his

brother and the rash started on his back which is an area that was

covered by his shirt.

I am looking for any help with an explanation of a cause of the rash,

and also an action plan. I stopped all supplements today except

Houston enzymes, Vitamin C, and magnesium and lots of water to flush

out his system. He has never been on Valtrex.

Thank you for any help with this concerning situation. I am not sure

whether to be worried or to rejoice.

Beth

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Beth -

I would definately DROP the Olive Leaf, and never give it again! We

had this exact reaction while doing Yasko's clostridia protocol with

Bay Leaf and some herbs. Although it DID cure the severe clostridia

and prevent us from having to resort to antibiotics, my 2yr dd was

COVERED in raised, whelty hives. That is an allergic reaction that

you are describing, also called hives, and I would discontinue it

immediately. Herbs can REALLY cause some serious hives, and are quite

powerful. I know about chemical exposure, and I think that would be

more like the red face, hyper activity, etc instead. And viral detox,

from what I know, does NOT look like raised hives. Delayed reaction

from antibiotcs...doubtful. For THIS kind of reaction, you would have

seen it I would think within the first few days. Swelling face and

eyes are definately a sign of a severe allergic reaction. The rule

with allergic reactions is that the next time it will be even more

severe.

We are also in Step 1 Yasko, so the supplements I know can be

overwhelming. I would also recommend also easing SLOWLY into all new

supplements, like 1/4cap the first two days, then 1/4cap at 2x/day

for few days, then 1/2cap once day, etc. For the meantime, if the

benedryl doesn't work overnight, get some Cortef and Zyrtec from your

doctor to calm down the reaction.

Hope this helps.

:-)

>

> My son who is 8 years old, with regressive autism, a history of

> colitis and LNH of the ileum, and on Step I of the Yasko protocol

> developed a horrible full body rash last night and this morning.

> This is a first ever rash he has ever had and he rarely gets sick.

> The only other rash he had was when he had a tummy rash of a

totally

> different appearance when had at 3 yo when chelating with oral

DMSA.

> That rash was fine; this one is blotchy and welty.

>

> I am wondering if Olive Leaf extract could be responsible.

>

> I gave him 1 OLE (a capsule of the Life Flo brand) and 1 Caprylic

on

> Wednesday late afternoon. I noticed nothing that day. I gave him

> the same doses on Thursday afternoon. The OLE is new, the caprylic

> is not.

>

> On Thursday evening around 8 pm, I noticed a raised welty looking

> rash on his mid to lower back concentrated along his spine and

> spreading out more diffusely to his hips, torso, groin, and

thighs.

> By morning he had a rash all over his entire body including face,

> arms, legs, neck and scalp. Most of it looks like hives, some

looks

> like erythema mutiforme. The rash is itchy. He has no fever and

> though he is a little foggier today, he is still pretty active and

up

> and about. His face and eyes appear a bit swollen today, and he

> complained about his eyes this morning.

>

> I took him to the pediatrician this morning who confirmed it was

not

> chicken pox or roseola, and said it looked like hives and some

spots

> of erythema multiforme. He said it could be caused form just about

> anything including an allergy to a food, environmental trigger, an

> antibiotic he just came off of, or a virus, etc. Basically he sent

> me home with directions to give benedryl as needed and to stop any

> possible provokers including herbs, novel supplements, or

antibiotics.

>

> Some possibilities come to mind. just finished up a 2 week

> course of Septra (trimethoprim sulfamethaxazole) and had his last

> dose the day before the rash. He has seen Septra before several

> years ago and I noted neither rash then, nor any rash while he was

on

> it this time (only good things behaviorally), but the pediatrician

> said it could still be a delayed reaction to the antibiotic. My

> thought is that perhaps the Septra brought his bacterial/protozoa

> load down enough that his body could mount an immune reaction to

> latent virus in his system, which was precipitated by OLE. Another

> possibility is that and some other children were rolling

down

> a grassy hill late yesterday and perhaps the grass was sprayed with

> chemicals and he is having an allergic reaction to the chemicals or

> tot he grass itself.

> None of the other children seem to be affected though including his

> brother and the rash started on his back which is an area that was

> covered by his shirt.

>

> I am looking for any help with an explanation of a cause of the

rash,

> and also an action plan. I stopped all supplements today except

> Houston enzymes, Vitamin C, and magnesium and lots of water to

flush

> out his system. He has never been on Valtrex.

>

> Thank you for any help with this concerning situation. I am not

sure

> whether to be worried or to rejoice.

>

> Beth

>