Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Vegetarians test more alkaline. Generally, 7.4 is too high for urine or saliva but kids can have readings that would be frightening on an adult and get by. Is he eating correctly? He may need some digestive enzymes. Also, readings first go alkaline before they go acid, at least for the urine. Those on the West Coast are more alkaline. Those of us in the south more acid. Meat eaters are more acid. So are chronically sick people. 6.4 - 6.6 is good for urine pH and saliva. They do that pH test of blood on arterial blood. I don't think you'd want them to do that. The urine/saliva tests are sufficient. Blood values wont change or you'd be dead meat. It's a savage test with little reward. jp >I, personally, like to see mine in the green range. I don't sell the chem >but if you'd like, I'll try to find a source. The best, Obie. After testing myself and a number of other people, which are in the green range, only one person has tested 7.4 for salavia. Typically, mine is 6.5. Nothing seems to change it. The 7.4 test was my 15 year old grandson. How can we test blood pH? When I was at the blood lab, I asked for a blood pH test. They all had a blank look, then told me they could not test blood pH. Maybe that is not an " approved " test or else it is on the category which is called, " we don't test for that " . Any suggestions? Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 6.5 saliva is perfect. If you have eaten your saliva will test more alkaline. Test first thing in the morning or an hour away from food and drinks. linda meeh CN www.vitalitymatters.net acidic blood, How ? > > >I, personally, like to see mine in the green range. I don't sell the chem > >but if you'd like, I'll try to find a source. The best, Obie. > > After testing myself and a number of other people, which are in the > green range, only one person has tested 7.4 for salavia. > > Typically, mine is 6.5. Nothing seems to change it. > > The 7.4 test was my 15 year old grandson. > > How can we test blood pH? When I was at the blood lab, I asked for a > blood pH test. > > They all had a blank look, then told me they could not test blood pH. > > Maybe that is not an " approved " test or else it is on the category > which is called, > " we don't test for that " . > > Any suggestions? > > Wayne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2002 Report Share Posted October 26, 2002 In a message dated 10/25/2002 3:31:14 PM Central Daylight Time, wayne@... writes: > >I, personally, like to see mine in the green range. I don't sell the chem > >but if you'd like, I'll try to find a source. The best, Obie. > > After testing myself and a number of other people, which are in the > green range, only one person has tested 7.4 for salavia. > > Typically, mine is 6.5. Nothing seems to change it. > > The 7.4 test was my 15 year old grandson. > > How can we test blood pH? When I was at the blood lab, I asked for a > blood pH test. > > They all had a blank look, then told me they could not test blood pH. > > Maybe that is not an " approved " test or else it is on the category > which is called, > " we don't test for that " . > > Any suggestions? > > Wayne > > If you study the works of Dr Carey Reams, the saliva should be 6.4 and the urine the same. The saliva shows the pH of the liver bile and urine the condition of the organs. My dad has prostate cncer and we are using the Reams appraoch for this. His PSA has dropped from 33 to 10.6. Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2002 Report Share Posted October 26, 2002 Wayne, any reason why you want to test for blood pH? It's always at 7.4, I believe. If it's more than a couple points off that, then you're not alive. I'd encourage you to test and change when needed your saliva pH. This is really more of a system check if you take it first thing in the morning. Best regards, Obie. acidic blood, How ? >I, personally, like to see mine in the green range. I don't sell the chem >but if you'd like, I'll try to find a source. The best, Obie. After testing myself and a number of other people, which are in the green range, only one person has tested 7.4 for salavia. Typically, mine is 6.5. Nothing seems to change it. The 7.4 test was my 15 year old grandson. How can we test blood pH? When I was at the blood lab, I asked for a blood pH test. They all had a blank look, then told me they could not test blood pH. Maybe that is not an " approved " test or else it is on the category which is called, " we don't test for that " . Any suggestions? Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2002 Report Share Posted October 26, 2002 Blood pH isn't always 7.4. Mine was 7.26 a few years ago and I felt " ok " , not great. I have a Biological Terrain manual by the owner of the BTA machine that tested someone's blood at 7.81. linda meeh acidic blood, How ? > > > > >I, personally, like to see mine in the green range. I don't sell the chem > >but if you'd like, I'll try to find a source. The best, Obie. > > After testing myself and a number of other people, which are in the > green range, only one person has tested 7.4 for salavia. > > Typically, mine is 6.5. Nothing seems to change it. > > The 7.4 test was my 15 year old grandson. > > How can we test blood pH? When I was at the blood lab, I asked for a > blood pH test. > > They all had a blank look, then told me they could not test blood pH. > > Maybe that is not an " approved " test or else it is on the category > which is called, > " we don't test for that " . > > Any suggestions? > > Wayne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2002 Report Share Posted October 26, 2002 Evening Obie, At 03:20 PM 10/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Wayne, any reason why you want to test for blood pH? It's always at 7.4, >I believe. If it's more than a couple points off that, then you're not alive. Yes, Ignorance. I did not know it would always be 7.4 ...... I thought I had read that the blood pH varies from time to time and day to day so there is no need to test it. > I'd encourage you to test and change when needed your saliva pH. This > is really more of a system check if you take it first thing in the morning. True, I have done that a few times. Seems it is about 6.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2002 Report Share Posted October 26, 2002 The test I had was from a ND that did lots of them. On the BTA graph optimum blood pH was 7.35. My test was 7.26 and a month later after using alkalizing remedies it was 7.29. My graph was in the viral/cancer degeneration zone. I had food allergies and major systemc candida. I should get it tested again now, after several years of an alkaline diet and see how it improved. Have you ever tested anyone with blood that acidic? It scared me to know how seriously sick I was. The Dr. said " You ARE sick, did you KNOW? " He was surprised I looked so fit and healthy. I chose to go forward and do all I could in the way of detox and rebuilding my cellular terrain. Since I do darkfield, I analyzed my blood routinely, and saw it go from bad to worse and then gradually get better. After three months my blood looked like the best I had seen in anyone. Health and Happiness linda meeh CN Re: acidic blood, How ? > > from - http://www.bloodph.com/research/venus.html > > Venous Blood Acid/Alkaline Testing > > The importance for maintaining an optimal venous blood pH > cannot be over emphasized. Any deviation from optimal venous > blood pH of 7.46 can result in lack of utilization of enzymes, > lack of absorption of trace nutrients, vitamins, minerals, and > fatty acids. > > When these deviations are too great or go on for a long period > of time, metabolic problems arise as well as degenerative > disease systems. Three of the most common complaints I hear > from patients are fatigue, digestive disorders, and allergies. > The first focus of my testing is to optimize the venous blood > pH. We do this via a fasting urine pH, fasting blood glucose > test, and a glucose tolerance and intolerance test. We do > fasting blood dark field oil immersion microscopic work ups to > check the various particulates in the plasmachylous bodies or > fat cells. > > All the above testings help me determine your acid alkaline > biobalance profile. > > In addition to the above tests, we do a complete capillary > blood work up with our dark field microscope, electro > acupuncture testing, urine pathology, bowel toxicity, and > vitamin C threshold. > > This test takes about one and a half hours and requires you to > be on a 15 hour fast. Very few supplements are prescribed. Most > biobalance profiles change with food. The proper foods will > bring your venous blood pH back into biobalance. When this > adjustment occurs, wonderful things happen to your body, > because you are now absorbing and utilizing nutrients. My > success rate is over 90% in helping people obtain a higher > level of health and endurance. > > > > > . > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2002 Report Share Posted October 27, 2002 Well, it's not like I know everything; just sharing my own experience. You know, we're all individuals, all operate in different ways so we have to hunt and peck until we find where is right for us. I believe if we test in the morning before we have anything to eat or drink, that we're testing our system pH. Personally, I wouldn't worry about blood pH. There's not much we can do to change it. Saliva and system, we can change. My two cents, Obie. Re: acidic blood, How ? Evening Obie, At 03:20 PM 10/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Wayne, any reason why you want to test for blood pH? It's always at 7.4, >I believe. If it's more than a couple points off that, then you're not alive. Yes, Ignorance. I did not know it would always be 7.4 ...... I thought I had read that the blood pH varies from time to time and day to day so there is no need to test it. > I'd encourage you to test and change when needed your saliva pH. This > is really more of a system check if you take it first thing in the morning. True, I have done that a few times. Seems it is about 6.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2002 Report Share Posted October 28, 2002 meeh, Beware just as much with ND's and others telling " How sick you are! " . I a great proponent of natural medicine and preventative health but there are just as many bad ND's as there are bad regular doctor's (percentage wise), except, I believe they are practicing in a more enlightened field. Glad to hear you took responsibility for your own health and took charge. It is great to see where you are headed but for the guy to say " You ARE sick, did you KNOW? " makes me really very wary of him. Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. Re: acidic blood, How ? > The test I had was from a ND that did lots of them. On the BTA graph optimum > blood pH was 7.35. My test was 7.26 and a month later after using > alkalizing remedies it was 7.29. My graph was in the viral/cancer > degeneration zone. I had food allergies and major systemc candida. > I should get it tested again now, after several years of an alkaline diet > and see how it improved. > Have you ever tested anyone with blood that acidic? It scared me to know > how seriously sick I was. The Dr. said " You ARE sick, did you KNOW? " He > was surprised I looked so fit and healthy. > I chose to go forward and do all I could in the way of detox and > rebuilding my cellular terrain. Since I do darkfield, I analyzed my blood > routinely, and saw it go from bad to worse and then gradually get better. > After three months my blood looked like the best I had seen in anyone. > Health and Happiness > linda meeh CN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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