Re: Deceleration Training Vs Acceleration Training

[Guest guest]

An interesting point, without making this sound overly simple, if they have

accelerated do they not also have to deccelerate.

Mark Helme

Wakefield, UK

Deceleration Training Vs Acceleration Training

In young athletes which should we teach first? The skill of

decelerating or accelerating? After all if young athletes cannot

control the speed at which they change direction with reasonable

control what is the use of teaching acceleration?

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[Guest guest]

Why does it have to be mutually exclusive? If they want to decelerate

they have to accelerate and vice versa.

Creative play with the very young should address this somewhat. If you

are talking about a young athlete who is past general physical

preparation than I would say it depends on the sport. I wouldn't worry

much about a sprinter being good a decelerating, but a football player

should be.

alanruddock wrote:

> In young athletes which should we teach first? The skill of

> decelerating or accelerating? After all if young athletes cannot

> control the speed at which they change direction with reasonable

> control what is the use of teaching acceleration?

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Alan Ruddock

> Leeds, UK

>

>

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Hobman

Saskatoon, CANADA

[Guest guest]

Completely agree.

The number one goal of any training program should be to reduce the risk of

injury. If we teach our athletes to be fast with out giving them to tools to

slow down, it is like buying a Ferrari with no brakes. This will most

assuredly increase the risk of injury. And at the end of the day if the

athlete is injured it really doesn't matter how fast he was...

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Moody

Overland Park, KS

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Deceleration Training Vs Acceleration Training

In young athletes which should we teach first? The skill of

decelerating or accelerating? After all if young athletes cannot

control the speed at which they change direction with reasonable

control what is the use of teaching acceleration?

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[Guest guest]

Even if you wanted to, how can you teach deceleration if the students were not

already moving pretty fast?

Ed White

Sandwich, MA USA

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alanruddock wrote:

In young athletes which should we teach first? The skill of

decelerating or accelerating? After all if young athletes cannot

control the speed at which they change direction with reasonable

control what is the use of teaching acceleration?

Any thoughts?

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[Guest guest]

True. When athletes accelerate they have to decelerate. However, this

does not mean they decelerate with the correct technique. I'm not

talking about decelerating until zero velocity, just decelerating

enough for the athlete to position themselves optimally for a change

in direction at high speed. We all know you can't run 100% and change

direction effectively. Therefore, there must be some form of

deceleration. Training deceleration technique would assist in

application of force in the change of direction.

I see it time and time again, young athletes who have exceptional

acceleration have difficulty changing direction at high speed.

Members are correct in saying you cannot uncouple the two, but you

can emphasise one or the other.

Alan Ruddock

Leeds, UK

>

> An interesting point, without making this sound overly simple, if

they have accelerated do they not also have to deccelerate.

>

> Mark Helme

> Wakefield, UK

>

> Deceleration Training Vs Acceleration

Training

>

> In young athletes which should we teach first? The skill of

> decelerating or accelerating? After all if young athletes cannot

> control the speed at which they change direction with reasonable

> control what is the use of teaching acceleration?

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I think the answer is you emphasize training the weak

point. Unless you play a position in a sport where the

action always comes to you first (baseball catcher?),

you have to be fast enough to get to the ball in the

first place before worrying about what you will do

when you get there. If, on the other hand, you

consistently run past the ball, getting there first

doesn't mean much.

Generally, the sport itself trains both skills

simultaneously. Kids who cannot change direction

quickly relative to their straight ahead speed tend to

run more upright, are simply misjudging when to start

slowing down, or lack the coordination to execute

quick changes in direction. All of those issues can

be addressed in the context of training for the sport.

If the problem can't be corrected, the athlete is

probably headed to track where it doesn't matter.

Jon Haddan

Irvine, CA

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/28/2007 2:35:54 AM Central Daylight Time,

jon_haddan@... writes:

If the problem can't be corrected, the athlete is

probably headed to track where it doesn't matter.

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There is a term that I think football coaches in Texas still use to describe

talented running backs: they have 'zuzu.'

An athlete with zuzu has the ability to read the field, react quickly,

reverse direction, cut quickly, elude defenders, etc. The best backs all have

zuzu. It is not just speed or agility.

It is a 'feel' for the game that allows them to control the field of play. I

dont know to what extent this is trainable.

Yes, in our situation, it you're fast but don't have zuzu, you're spread

wide instead of in the backfield, and you're most likely looking forward to

track.

Ken Jakalski

Lisle HS.

Lisle, Illinois USA

[Guest guest]

Mel once noted the following:

" ... since all supplementary training is not identical to the

actual sporting skills, then this logic decrees that all supplementary

training is redundant, be it with weights, via running, swimming, Pilates,

yoga,... you name it. This, of course, ignores the difference between the

different goals and phases of training (supplementary activity) and practice

(sport specific skill activity). That is why periodisation classically

distinguishes between GPP (General Physical Preparation) and SPP (Special

Physical Preparation).

A similar mentality has been adopted by strength coaches for athletic teams,

often implementing explosive exercise movements in the belief that athletes

become more explosive in game play. The skills of power cleaning (viz.,

throwing a barbell up to the shoulders from a hanging arm position) cannot

transfer to the skills of sprinting and dodging in football, or a slap shot

in hockey. Strength is general and contributes to any activity. The applied

demonstration of strength is specific, however, and applying strength to any

activity, such as football, requires specific skill training. And the only

way to produce specificity in a sport is by practicing the sports skills in

question.

More explicitly, in football there are many positions, including running

back, quarterback, and wide receiver. Being good at one position does not

make an athlete good at all positions. If this were the case, a running back

could take the quarterback’s place if the quarterback became injured. It

should be obvious that the skill acquisition is much different from one

position to another. "

Ken Jakalski Lisle

HS

Lisle, Illinois USA

[Guest guest]

One has to accelerate before one has to decelerate, if you cannot

accelerate.

There is no deceleration without acceleration. Any 100 meter race one can

see sprinters " step on the brake " aggressively after the finish or one can

see sprinters decelerate taking the whole curve to do that, which is

healthier for the quads, considering the eccentric load which decelerating.

Now in team or ball sports decelerating become more important but this

quality is automatically developed by acceleration training or nice

exercises in which one is accelerating towards a mark and then forced stop

before the second mark (for slow learners one can use a wall ;-) or change

direction (choice of two different marks e.g. left and right, dependent on

acoustic signal of the coach or the visual signal of a ball thrown towards

one of the marks.

For tennis players I use a beautiful automatic system to improve reaction

time, anticipation speed, decision making speed. and deceleration speed,

connected to a specific skill, giving a visual choice signal and recording

the split times, passing infrared beams.

Henk Kraaijenhof

Amstelveen

Holland

[Guest guest]

Who here teaches acceleration technique?

Who teaches athletes, optimal foot and body posistioning? Who teaches

the importance of arm mechanics.

Who then forgets about the importance of teaching deceleration

technique?

Alan Ruddock

Leeds, UK

>

>

> In a message dated 7/28/2007 2:35:54 AM Central Daylight Time,

> jon_haddan@... writes:

>

> If the problem can't be corrected, the athlete is

> probably headed to track where it doesn't matter.

>

> ****

> There is a term that I think football coaches in Texas still use

to describe

> talented running backs: they have 'zuzu.'

>

> An athlete with zuzu has the ability to read the field, react

quickly,

> reverse direction, cut quickly, elude defenders, etc. The best

backs all have

> zuzu. It is not just speed or agility.

> It is a 'feel' for the game that allows them to control the field

of play. I

> dont know to what extent this is trainable.

>

> Yes, in our situation, it you're fast but don't have zuzu, you're

spread

> wide instead of in the backfield, and you're most likely looking

forward to

> track.

>

> Ken Jakalski

> Lisle HS.

> Lisle, Illinois USA

>