Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 There is no standard for inhome and parent training. Everything is based on case law and who interprets it. However, - who represents school districts says this: Parent training is training the parent - you should have a goal to acheive: " Will understand and demonstrate how to use ecxtinction in conjunction w/ positive reinforcement to decrease ny's screaming from 5 episodes a day to 1 episode a day. " or " will understand and demonstrate how to fade the use of prompts so that ny can toilet independent of adult supervision in 3/4 situtations " . For in home training: " ny will generalize to the home and community setting his skill of independently using the toilet at school " or " ny will follow his tooth brushing routine with ONLY the use of a visual, sequential schedule that breaks toothbrushing into 8 steps. " or " ny will generalize to the home and community his ability to use a picture exchange system, unprompted, in order to indicate which snack he wants after school in 4/5 times " . Now, these can be combined where they are looking for generalization of a skill (in home training) and will work on it by the trainer working w/ the child and also modeling for and training the parent how to do it ( ie parent training). But, you both need to have goals to achieve. I hope this helps! If your trainer is bad - document her visits by taking notes of what she is doing or video tape ( " I would really like to be able to review what you are doing later w/ my husband so he too can learn this " ) - if she is not adaquately skilled ( vs trained) refuse her services and request training for the trainer ( which is a right under IDEA: in order for the training to meet the requirements of ?300.347(a)(3), it would normally be targeted directly on assisting the teacher to meet a unique and specific need of the child, and not simply to participate in an inservice training program that is generally available within a public agency " (at p. 12,593). ) and then get another trainer in there who knows what they are doing. Good luck.... In Home Training And yet again, I think I am wayyy off base with what is available for my son. My understanding was that in-home training applied to the parent. The " autism team " (one lady) would come to my house and give me suggestions. She has been out twice and never even attempted to work with . Basically, she looks around and says that I am doing a lot. What is the standard here? Gimme some ammo for the ARD Robyn TEXAS-AUTISM-ADVOCACY WEBSITE: http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/autismlist FEAT News Information: http://www.feat.org/scripts/wa.exe http://www.feat.org " Healing Autism: No Finer a Cause on the Planet " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 I was constantly being denied for in home training. Everytime I would ask for an in home trainer, I was told that they could train me how to do the things myself. I have another ARD coming up on the 17th. What should I say if they keep telling me this? Mache Liu Schleiss wrote: > There is no standard for inhome and parent training. Everything is > based on > case law and who interprets it. However, - who represents > school > districts says this: Parent training is training the parent - you > should > have a goal to acheive: " Will understand and demonstrate how to use > ecxtinction in conjunction w/ positive reinforcement to decrease > ny's > screaming from 5 episodes a day to 1 episode a day. " or " will > understand and > demonstrate how to fade the use of prompts so that ny can toilet > independent of adult supervision in 3/4 situtations " . > > For in home training: " ny will generalize to the home and > community > setting his skill of independently using the toilet at school " or > " ny > will follow his tooth brushing routine with ONLY the use of a visual, > sequential schedule that breaks toothbrushing into 8 steps. " or > " ny will > generalize to the home and community his ability to use a picture > exchange > system, unprompted, in order to indicate which snack he wants after > school > in 4/5 times " . > > Now, these can be combined where they are looking for generalization > of a > skill (in home training) and will work on it by the trainer working w/ > the > child and also modeling for and training the parent how to do it ( ie > parent > training). But, you both need to have goals to achieve. > > I hope this helps! If your trainer is bad - document her visits by > taking > notes of what she is doing or video tape ( " I would really like to be > able > to review what you are doing later w/ my husband so he too can learn > this " ) - if she is not adaquately skilled ( vs trained) refuse her > services > and request training for the trainer ( which is a right under IDEA: > in > order for the training to meet the requirements of ?300.347(a)(3), it > would > normally be targeted directly on assisting the teacher to meet a > unique and > specific need of the child, and not simply to participate in an > inservice > training program that is generally available within a public agency " > (at p. > 12,593). ) and then get another trainer in there who knows what they > are > doing. > > Good luck.... > In Home Training > > > And yet again, I think I am wayyy off base with what is available for > my > son. My understanding was that in-home training applied to the > parent. The > " autism team " (one lady) would come to my house and give me > suggestions. She > has been out twice and never even attempted to work with . > Basically, > she looks around and says that I am doing a lot. > What is the standard here? Gimme some ammo for the ARD > > Robyn > > > > > TEXAS-AUTISM-ADVOCACY WEBSITE: > http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/autismlist > > FEAT News Information: > http://www.feat.org/scripts/wa.exe > http://www.feat.org > " Healing Autism: No Finer a Cause on the Planet " > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 <<My understanding was that in-home training applied to the parent>> In home is where the trainer actually works with the child in the home setting. Parent training is where they teach you things you need to know and also work as a liaison to the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 <<My understanding was that in-home training applied to the parent>> In home is where the trainer actually works with the child in the home setting. Parent training is where they teach you things you need to know and also work as a liaison to the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 ronnie: thanks for the great advice! you're the best. funny this was a post today. i was just about to ask. jennifer In Home Training And yet again, I think I am wayyy off base with what is available for my son. My understanding was that in-home training applied to the parent. The " autism team " (one lady) would come to my house and give me suggestions. She has been out twice and never even attempted to work with . Basically, she looks around and says that I am doing a lot. What is the standard here? Gimme some ammo for the ARD Robyn TEXAS-AUTISM-ADVOCACY WEBSITE: http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/autismlist FEAT News Information: http://www.feat.org/scripts/wa.exe http://www.feat.org " Healing Autism: No Finer a Cause on the Planet " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 SIGN DISAGREE. As long as you relent and sign AGREE on an IEP where they have refused your requests they will continue to turn your requests down. IF you really think your kid needs the service, sign DISAGREE, and demand (politely) that they give you all the data, tests,etc they are using to deny your request. Also, ask for the district policy and procedures for determining level of inhome training services. IF you do not want the expense or head ache of due process, immediately file for mediation by calling the TEA special education department. IT costs you nothing and if the school doesn't attend they look bad in front of TEA. Maybe they will be inconvenienced enough they will relent and give you what you need. - Ronnie In Home Training > > > And yet again, I think I am wayyy off base with what is available for > my > son. My understanding was that in-home training applied to the > parent. The > " autism team " (one lady) would come to my house and give me > suggestions. She > has been out twice and never even attempted to work with . > Basically, > she looks around and says that I am doing a lot. > What is the standard here? Gimme some ammo for the ARD > > Robyn > > > > > TEXAS-AUTISM-ADVOCACY WEBSITE: > http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/autismlist > > FEAT News Information: > http://www.feat.org/scripts/wa.exe > http://www.feat.org > " Healing Autism: No Finer a Cause on the Planet " > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Some ideas for parent training - especially if you feel you already know alot on shaping behavior, SI, or whatever, and you think the district is not that effective w/ their parenat training is to ask for the district to pay for you and/or your husbnad to attend some workshops. If you know of what will be around in the fall - specifically name the workshop and the presenter. Other wise, you can be more general - " a 4 to 6 hour workshop presented by a certified ABA (CABA) on how to reduce aggressive behavior " , or " A full day workshop on language development in children w/ developmental disorders " , " social skills development " , " PECS system " , " reducing self stim behaviors " ,etc. The state autism conference is always in the fall - you can ask to have your registration paid - districts will often pay for this once every other year. You will have to provide transportation and hotel/food. But the ESC's have offered parent stipends the last 3 years or so. The biggest challenge is always child care or leaving DH home to manage the kids and house. FYI - parent training, under IDEA, is now clearly spelled out that it relates to all disabilities so that parents can better understand the full scope of their child's disability as it impacts their ability to be educated and how they can support achievement of the IEP in the home setting. Re: In Home Training <<My understanding was that in-home training applied to the parent>> In home is where the trainer actually works with the child in the home setting. Parent training is where they teach you things you need to know and also work as a liaison to the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Some ideas for parent training - especially if you feel you already know alot on shaping behavior, SI, or whatever, and you think the district is not that effective w/ their parenat training is to ask for the district to pay for you and/or your husbnad to attend some workshops. If you know of what will be around in the fall - specifically name the workshop and the presenter. Other wise, you can be more general - " a 4 to 6 hour workshop presented by a certified ABA (CABA) on how to reduce aggressive behavior " , or " A full day workshop on language development in children w/ developmental disorders " , " social skills development " , " PECS system " , " reducing self stim behaviors " ,etc. The state autism conference is always in the fall - you can ask to have your registration paid - districts will often pay for this once every other year. You will have to provide transportation and hotel/food. But the ESC's have offered parent stipends the last 3 years or so. The biggest challenge is always child care or leaving DH home to manage the kids and house. FYI - parent training, under IDEA, is now clearly spelled out that it relates to all disabilities so that parents can better understand the full scope of their child's disability as it impacts their ability to be educated and how they can support achievement of the IEP in the home setting. Re: In Home Training <<My understanding was that in-home training applied to the parent>> In home is where the trainer actually works with the child in the home setting. Parent training is where they teach you things you need to know and also work as a liaison to the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2002 Report Share Posted September 15, 2002 I'm with you. There are parents out there who would be great parent trainers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2002 Report Share Posted September 15, 2002 In-home training is most definitely to work directly with the CHILD, not the parent. It is to help the child generalize learning from school to home and vice-versa. If your district seems to be confused about how this is supposed to work, I suggest contacting Peyton at the TEA hotline number and asking him to contact your district to explain how this is supposed to work. Additionally, someone referred to past hearing officer decisions on this issue with in-home training. These can be accessed on the TEA website, printed off, and taken to your ARD meeting to SHOW your district what hearing officers say in-home training is. Additionally, like ALL related services provided by the school district, in-home training (as well as parent training) is supposed to have INDIVIDUALIZED IEP GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. My understanding is that even the parent training should have goals pertaining to one's own child, and that hearing officers have also found that generic, group parent training as provided by the district is NOT SUFFICIENT to meet the definition. You might look into this as well. I know for years I have received both individualized in-home training for each of my children (with their own goals and objectives) as well as individualized parent training (which discusses my children's particular individual issues...like sibling issues related to both having autism) and has NOT been about generic things regarding autism....geez, I could be teaching THEM on that! nna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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