Re: normal boy behavour?

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Does the principle know? I think the teachers arent doing their jobs if they dont try to put an end to it. Those boys should be getting some sort of punishment. Your son has a right to go to school and not be harrassed everyday.

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In assemblys the mess with my son so bad the HE gets moved to the ground alone

They should be the ones to get moved ....to the principles office!

Yet the school said this was normal also.

Go above the school, call the school system and complain. Get them in trouble.

I would NEVER treat people this way

Nobody should, AND THAT IS WHAT THE SCHOOL IS TEACHING THESE BOYS BY LETTING THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.

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I WOULD CONTACT A LAWYER. START LOGGING THINGS, AND COLLECTING EVIDENCE. OTHERWISE TRANSFER HIM TO ANOTHER PUBLIC SCHOOL, OR A PRIVATE ONE IF YOU HAVE TO. GINA

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WHERE DO YOU LIVE? WHAT IS THE POPULATION OF THAT TOWN?

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NO I dont think so. I was bullied at school for about a year and it should not be ignored. The school have to do better than this it is not acceptable behaviour. Is it always the same boys? can you not talk to their parents? Good Luck Katy

michele e wrote:

My son is tripped and teased weekly. Nothing new there.

Yesterday he was drug, on the ground, into the girls restroom. The teacher questioned him as to why he was in the girls restroom. He normally wont tell, but he had to in this case. As usual the teacher did nothing.

At my IEP I was told this is all normal boy behavior and that when I listen to him about this Im teaching him to play the victim?

What ever happened to you keep your hands to yourself? No teasing people to make funny entertainment for yourself?

Is this normal and reasonable behavior?

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

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The parents are ok with it? Ofcourse there boys are normal size and have no special needs etc..

In fact those parents are mad that their sons got in trouble** at first**.

NOW there is no punishment and they just ignore everything.

Yes its always the same 5 boys.

In assemblys the mess with my son so bad the HE gets moved to the ground alone

The they all throw things at him the whole assembly. My son really seems bothered by this and them all laughing at him. Yet the school said this was normal also.

I honestly feel I have landed on the wrong planet!

I would NEVER treat people this way.

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

Re: normal boy behavour?

NO I dont think so. I was bullied at school for about a year and it should not be ignored. The school have to do better than this it is not acceptable behaviour. Is it always the same boys? can you not talk to their parents? Good Luck Katy michele e wrote:

My son is tripped and teased weekly. Nothing new there.

Yesterday he was drug, on the ground, into the girls restroom. The teacher questioned him as to why he was in the girls restroom. He normally wont tell, but he had to in this case. As usual the teacher did nothing.

At my IEP I was told this is all normal boy behavior and that when I listen to him about this Im teaching him to play the victim?

What ever happened to you keep your hands to yourself? No teasing people to make funny entertainment for yourself?

Is this normal and reasonable behavior?

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

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The principle and the gym teacher ( bullys mom) are best friends. Last time the brusies were all over my son and I had to take pic. The pics were supposed to be private between me and the spec ed teacher for political reasons but she showed the principle. BIG MISTAKE.

Now the principle is no longer buddy buddy with me. Shes not going to have me treating her teacher staff that way. Welcome to small town USA. Dont go rocking any boats now...............

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

Re: normal boy behavour?

Does the principle know? I think the teachers arent doing their jobs if they dont try to put an end to it. Those boys should be getting some sort of punishment. Your son has a right to go to school and not be harrassed everyday.

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This is not normal boy behavior; this is bullying! Would it be ok with his teacher if she were dragged into the boys bathroom? Teaching him to be the "victim"? Oh please, do you get up in the morning and tell him how much fun you think it would be if he got bullied in school? Your school needs a wake up call, medical professionals all over the world recognize this as a health problem. Absolutely noone should have to tolerate bullying as a normal part of life. The number one complaint I hear from other Aspie parents is the treatment of their children in schools by their peers and sometimes school staff.

Don't let your school push you around, gain knowledge and use it to make yourself be heard. You'll be helping all the kids and teachers to have a better school climate. Check out the links I sent, they're a good place to start.

http://www.successunlimited.co.uk/bully/index.htm

http://www.colorado.edu/cspv/safeschools/bullying/overview.html#links

http://www.antibullying.net/index.html

http://www.bullying.org/public/frameset.cfm?w=s

http://ericps.crc.uiuc.edu/eece/pubs/digests/1997/banks97.html

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2602/0001/2602000112/p1/article.jhtml

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/article/2403-6389.html

>From: "michele e"

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>Subject: normal boy behavour? >Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 07:38:07 -0500 > >My son is tripped and teased weekly. Nothing new there. >Yesterday he was drug, on the ground, into the girls restroom. The teacher questioned him as to why he was in the girls restroom. He normally wont tell, but he had to in this case. As usual the teacher did nothing. >At my IEP I was told this is all normal boy behavior and that when I listen to him about this Im teaching him to play the victim? >What ever happened to you keep your hands to yourself? No teasing people to make funny entertainment for yourself? >Is this normal and reasonable behavior? > > ´¨¨)) -:¦:- > ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) > ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E > -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*

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Not only is this behavior wrong, it is illegal. If you have pictures and witnesses, you have enough information to get the police involved. Also, file a complaint with the state Department of ed. Your son is required to have a free and appropriate education. Make sure in the complaint you include copies of the pictures and statements from your witnesses.

Bullying is not acceptable. Our children cannot protect themselves and should be able to believe that the adults around him are there to help him. Not only will you be helping your child, you will be helping the bullies by providing something they need, reasonable limits.

Good luck,

Debi(the one in AZ)

normal boy behavour?

My son is tripped and teased weekly. Nothing new there.

Yesterday he was drug, on the ground, into the girls restroom. The teacher questioned him as to why he was in the girls restroom. He normally wont tell, but he had to in this case. As usual the teacher did nothing.

At my IEP I was told this is all normal boy behavior and that when I listen to him about this Im teaching him to play the victim?

What ever happened to you keep your hands to yourself? No teasing people to make funny entertainment for yourself?

Is this normal and reasonable behavior?

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

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Michele,

OK, here comes Mama Bear!

My husband was bullied in high

school. You didn’t mention

the age of these kids. I assume

they are in grade school. If this

behavior isn’t controlled at this age, your son will have broken ribs and

arms like my husband did. My MIL

went to the school but the boys were sons of the Police Chief, Principal,

Mayor, Minister, etc. They told her

the same thing. “Boys will be

boys. They are just playing”. My husband didn’t FEEL like

playing their game. Nothing stopped

until he left school. My DH came

from small town middle America.

I went to a lecture a couple of months ago

on bullying. The lecturer was our

school districts Director of Safety and Security. He was one of the Federal Special Agents

assigned to Columbine. He stated

that we see repeatedly that those that are bullied are the ones that eventually

snap and bring the guns to school to stop this crap when no one else

would. He said it is his personal

mission to ensure that another Columbine never happens.

BTW, the lecturer also stated that most of

those that are bullied are kids that have the social disorders. Those that are extremely handicapped are

not usually bothered much. I have

one of each. One child that is considered

mildly on the Autism Spectrum another that is in your face with his

disability. The lecturer told me

that my ASD child is the one that is “just normal enough” to be targeted

by bullies as “weird” and “needing to be punched”. (Words the kids at my DHs school used

with him.)

I have seen some of this just

starting. He is only 6 yo. So far, the

parents of the other kids have been very supportive and helpful in curbing the

behavior of their kids.

This can be such a tough deal. Some issues can have that fine line where

we don’t know if it was bullying or rough play that was legitimately

play. I believe the answer lies in

the same place on “date rape”.

If the girl says no, you stop.

If the kid says no, they should stop. If they don’t stop, it is

bullying. A child running away to

the bleachers is a clear “no” to me. A child saying he didn’t

appreciate being dragged into the girls bathroom is a

clear “no” to me. Play

is only play if all parties are having fun.

When I think that no one protected my DH,

I get so mad. His mother tried then

gave up bc she wasn’t

getting any support. My DH did not

snap and take weapons to school BUT HE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, OFTEN. Even now, if we talk

about going to his class reunion.

He states angrily that if he went he would want to take an uzzi with him to thin the herd of a few bad apples. He has been out of school for over 20

years.

He is still angry and hurt about what

happened in high school. He doesn’t

bring it up. Occasionally, high school

comes up and he gets angry all over again.

It would likely be helpful for him to seek counseling, he won’t. He is not an overall angry person

now. He did struggle with that for

years. He worked with himself on

not taking out his anger on others.

That would just make him a bully, too.

I told our Director of Safety and Security

if the kids started bullying my son and nobody stopped them that I would be in

his office with a lawyer and sue the school for not protecting my child. He stated that he would EXPECT and WANT to

see me in his office if nobody stopped it.

If the school isn’t stopping it and

is discounting the deal, go over their heads. Go to the District. Keep going up the ladder until you find

someone that listens to you. If

they won’t, find a lawyer.

Please don’t let what happened to my husband to happen to your

child. Protect him. Do whatever you can. Keep a log of every occasion when these

things occur. Note date and whom was involved.

If we don’t protect our children and

stand up for them, then nobody else will.

Yes, they need to know the difference between being a victim of the

world with everything and everyone and when they are legitimately a victim. How many young girls were told they “invited”

sex by going on a date with a boy or wearing a short dress? NO MEANS NO!

OK, I am done now. I hope and pray you can find someone to

help you.

Bec

Re:

normal boy behavour?

I WOULD CONTACT A LAWYER.

START LOGGING THINGS, AND COLLECTING EVIDENCE. OTHERWISE TRANSFER HIM TO

ANOTHER PUBLIC SCHOOL, OR A PRIVATE ONE IF YOU HAVE TO. GINA

[Guest guest]

, change schools they sound like they are just as bad as the bullys. Has your son got long left at this school? I feel so angry for you!! Katy

michele e wrote:

The parents are ok with it? Ofcourse there boys are normal size and have no special needs etc..

In fact those parents are mad that their sons got in trouble** at first**.

NOW there is no punishment and they just ignore everything.

Yes its always the same 5 boys.

In assemblys the mess with my son so bad the HE gets moved to the ground alone

The they all throw things at him the whole assembly. My son really seems bothered by this and them all laughing at him. Yet the school said this was normal also.

I honestly feel I have landed on the wrong planet!

I would NEVER treat people this way.

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

Re: normal boy behavour?

NO I dont think so. I was bullied at school for about a year and it should not be ignored. The school have to do better than this it is not acceptable behaviour. Is it always the same boys? can you not talk to their parents? Good Luck Katy michele e wrote:

My son is tripped and teased weekly. Nothing new there.

Yesterday he was drug, on the ground, into the girls restroom. The teacher questioned him as to why he was in the girls restroom. He normally wont tell, but he had to in this case. As usual the teacher did nothing.

At my IEP I was told this is all normal boy behavior and that when I listen to him about this Im teaching him to play the victim?

What ever happened to you keep your hands to yourself? No teasing people to make funny entertainment for yourself?

Is this normal and reasonable behavior?

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

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Something's really really wrong here. Threaten to go to the police and the media, and if nothing happens, then do it.

Theresa

On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 08:45:48 -0500 "michele e" writes:

The principle and the gym teacher ( bullys mom) are best friends. Last time the brusies were all over my son and I had to take pic. The pics were supposed to be private between me and the spec ed teacher for political reasons but she showed the principle. BIG MISTAKE.

Now the principle is no longer buddy buddy with me. Shes not going to have me treating her teacher staff that way. Welcome to small town USA. Dont go rocking any boats now...............

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

Re: normal boy behavour?

Does the principle know? I think the teachers arent doing their jobs if they dont try to put an end to it. Those boys should be getting some sort of punishment. Your son has a right to go to school and not be harrassed everyday.