Re: Vaccine question - please help

[Guest guest]

My daughter is entering preschool this

year and I’m just sending in a religious exemption note. Each state

varies some. I say that it’s against my religious beliefs to…..Sign

it and have it notarized and then print a copy of the Mass law and bring it in

to the school. They all know my son regressed so I get no objections, they

also know how many allergies and physical issues he has. You do not have to

state which religion you are. To get more information you can go to this sight

and type in your state and find out your rights. -

http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm

From:

mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Angie

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007

10:29 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Vaccine

question - please help

I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son

age 3. I would

like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-

to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was

born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his

first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any

after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was

to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School

giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do?

Any comments - please? What did others do?

[Guest guest]

If it's a private preschool they don't have to let him in. If it receives any monies, even a little, from the government they have no choice as to admit him or not, they have to.

Regardless, and this is my OPINION only as a mother, grandmother and a Child/Family psychologist, not going to preschool is not a bad thing. Again, in my OPINION, I believe the best place for a 3 year old is with his parents, with occasional, nice mom supervised play dates with other 3 year olds.

There are lots of nice studies that show the longer you delay putting your child in any kind of formal education the more independent he will be, the stronger his bonding with his family will be, and the less susceptible to later peer pressure he will be.

I have this fear that by the time my dgd is a mother that the state educational system will show up at the hospital to take her newborn, promising off course to return it at 3 pm.

Again, just my opinion, I'm aware the push to put children in a formal educational atmosphere is happening earlier and earlier.

Vaccine question - please help

I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son age 3. I would like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do? Any comments - please? What did others do?

[Guest guest]

Many parents where we live request a religious exemption. We were advised many years ago by a doctor we no longer use (Magaziner of Cherry Hill, NJ) to do so and a sample letter was given to us. The internet is flooded with exemption examples. Each state has its own rules also so check with your state health dpt to see what is needed. For example, some school systems require written proof from a clergy member. Below are some of the information that we used in one of our letters. We got it off the internet about 5 years ago. It was enough information for the public school systems in Gloucester County, NJ back then when we chose not to immunize our children. All vaccines are made in violation of God’s Word. Vaccines are made with toxic chemicals that are injected into the bloodstream by vaccination. All

vaccines are made with foreign proteins (viruses and bacteria), and some vaccines are made with genetically engineered viral and bacterial materials.A conflict arises if you believe that man is made in God’s image and the injection of toxic chemicals and foreign proteins into the bloodstream is a violation of God’s directive to keep the body/temple holy and free from impurities.Vaccines are produced in animal tissues. A conflict arises if you accept God’s warning not to mix the blood of man with the blood of animals. Some vaccines are produced in aborted fetal tissue.A conflict arises if your religious convictions are predicated on the belief that all life is sacred. God’s commandment “Thou Shall Not Kill” applies to the practice of abortion. When it is believed that the practice of abortion should not be encouraged or supported in any manner, a conflict may arise with vaccines produced in aborted fetal tissue even though you didn’t have anything to

do with the abortions from which the vaccines are made from.The Hepatitis-A vaccine containing MRC-5 is obtained from human babies that were electively aborted. WI-38 was created from the tissue of an aborted fetus and is used for the rubella portion of the MMR-II vaccine. RA 273 was created from the tissue of an aborted fetus, and is used for MMR-II vaccine. A conflict arises because my religious convictions are predicated on the belief that all life is sacred. God's commandment "Thou Shall Not Kill" applies to the practice of abortion. The acceptance of this/these vaccine(s) promotes/promote abortion and violates the Sixth Commandment of "Thou Shall Not Kill". The Chickenpox (Varivax) vaccine containing MRC-5 and RA 273, is obtained from human babies that were electively aborted. The acceptance of this vaccine promotes abortion and violates the Sixth Commandment of "Thou Shall

Not Kill".The Hepatitis-B vaccine protects against a disease that is only transmitted through multiple sexual partners or street IV drug users. The acceptance of this vaccine promotes sexual promiscuity and immoral behavior in direct contradiction to the teachings of my faith.For a child under age 18, where parent has to make the statement, concerning Hep B vaccine...The Hepatitis-B vaccine protects against a disease that is only transmitted through multiple sexual partners or street IV drug users and therefore usurps my parental authority to condemn such activity in my child. The acceptance of this vaccine promotes sexual promiscuity and immoral behavior in direct contradiction to the teachings of our faith. ”I believe that inherent in each individual is an innate intelligence, provided by God, which will protect the host environment and provide homeostasis.” “Life and physical health are precious gifts

entrusted to us by God. We must take reasonable care of them…” [2288 – Catechism of the Catholic Church 1994]“The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of … medicine.” [2290 – Catechism of the Catholic Church 1994] (Indicate rationale and attach statement from clergy or other authority.)You do not need to belong to a church or religious organization to claim religious exemption from vaccines.Applicable law has been interpreted to mean that a religious belief is subject to protection even though no religious group espouses such beliefs or the fact that the religious group to which the individual professes to belong may not advocate or require such belief. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended Nov. 1, 1980; Part 1605.1-Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Religion.Our legal rights are guaranteed by the free exercise clause of the First Amendment to the U.S.

Constitution. Recent court decisions have upheld the rights of individuals seeking exemptions from immunizations based upon personal and religious reasons. On the U.S. Supreme Court level in Frazee V. Illinois Dept. of Security, 489 U.S. 829, it was found that a state may not deny an exemption simply because a person is not a member of a formal religious organization.Angie wrote: I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son age 3. I would like to start my son in

preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do? Any comments - please? What did others do? Tistan

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<www.amazon.com> What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About

Children's Vaccinations by Cave and Deborah

(Paperback - Sep 1, 2001) Buy new: $14.95 $10.17 56 Used & new

from $5.50

This may be one very useful reference; but hard to read if you don't

know the subject already.

MB12 members must know which net references are inspirational; useful;

uphold the American Constitution.

A few sources put together will save your son's health. Tell the

school that human sacrifice is outlawed in the US ! Of course you may

have to tell them very nicely and authoritatively. There may

be a couple of shots that are good for us all, too, after all ?

( There are non-confrontational methods of dealing with difficult

arguments that may be much, much,

more important than the facts involved in this case. Those I

know of are: 1) Mind Mapping the topic 2) "Getting to Yes" kind of

approach 3) de Bono's "Six Thinking Hats."

If I were to be told that "The causes of autism are still being

researched and that there is no definitive link proven between

immunizations and autism; which does have a genetic link." I'd

answer: "As there is a 60% genetic link to autism I want to

know the other 40% of the jigsaw puzzle before consenting to

indiscriminate multiple immunizations. At the present rate of progress

it will take medical researchers another 60 years just to find the

funds to do that. So please encourage the funding agencies to get off

their ......* "

Please imagine the happy, non-confrontational voice and face used.

Knowing the names of several law firms that specialize in this kind of

legal problem would certainly help. Are there home schooling

co-operatives that can help solve these problems ? I'll be getting

grandchildren sometime in the next 5 years...

Perhaps I'll Mind Map the answers you get to this difficult question. 8-) )

Angie wrote:

I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son age 3. I

would

like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-

to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was

born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his

first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any

after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was

to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School

giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do?

Any comments - please? What did others do?

[Guest guest]

Beautifully crafted ammunition .

Now to be flexible enough to use it against compulsory immunizations,

but not to blind ourselves to a few possibly useful ones.

Multi-vitamins-minerals or some magic fruit juice blend for a month

before a useful shot and for two months after, might go a long way

towards protecting against side effects ? And waiting till children

are old enough to manage the shots.

Tistan wrote:

Many parents where we live request a religious exemption........

The Hepatitis-A vaccine containing MRC-5 is obtained

from human babies that were electively aborted. WI-38 was

created from the tissue of an aborted fetus and is used for the rubella

portion of the MMR-II vaccine. RA 273 was created from

the tissue of an aborted fetus, and is used for MMR-II vaccine.

A conflict arises because my religious convictions are predicated on

the belief that all life is sacred. God's commandment "Thou Shall

Not Kill" applies to the practice of abortion. The acceptance

of this/these vaccine(s) promotes/promote abortion and violates the

Sixth Commandment of "Thou Shall Not Kill".....

[Guest guest]

,

I have always used a simple religious exemption w/no problems. However, this is an excellent explanation when someone, like a school nurse, gives you a look. Thank you so much for taking the time to write and share this with us.

- Dana

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of TistanSent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:10 AMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Vaccine question - please help

Many parents where we live request a religious exemption. We were advised many years ago by a doctor we no longer use (Magaziner of Cherry Hill, NJ) to do so and a sample letter was given to us. The internet is flooded with exemption examples. Each state has its own rules also so check with your state health dpt to see what is needed. For example, some school systems require written proof from a clergy member. Below are some of the information that we used in one of our letters. We got it off the internet about 5 years ago. It was enough information for the public school systems in Gloucester County, NJ back then when we chose not to immunize our children.

All vaccines are made in violation of God’s Word. Vaccines are made with toxic chemicals that are injected into the bloodstream by vaccination. All vaccines are made with foreign proteins (viruses and bacteria), and some vaccines are made with genetically engineered viral and bacterial materials.A conflict arises if you believe that man is made in God’s image and the injection of toxic chemicals and foreign proteins into the bloodstream is a violation of God’s directive to keep the body/temple holy and free from impurities.Vaccines are produced in animal tissues. A conflict arises if you accept God’s warning not to mix the blood of man with the blood of animals. Some vaccines are produced in aborted fetal tissue.A conflict arises if your religious convictions are predicated on the belief that all life is sacred. God’s commandment “Thou Shall Not Kill” applies to the practice of abortion. When it is believed that the practice of abortion should not be encouraged or supported in any manner, a conflict may arise with vaccines produced in aborted fetal tissue even though you didn’t have anything to do with the abortions from which the vaccines are made from.The Hepatitis-A vaccine containing MRC-5 is obtained from human babies that were electively aborted. WI-38 was created from the tissue of an aborted fetus and is used for the rubella portion of the MMR-II vaccine. RA 273 was created from the tissue of an aborted fetus, and is used for MMR-II vaccine. A conflict arises because my religious convictions are predicated on the belief that all life is sacred. God's commandment "Thou Shall Not Kill" applies to the practice of abortion. The acceptance of this/these vaccine(s) promotes/promote abortion and violates the Sixth Commandment of "Thou Shall Not Kill". The Chickenpox (Varivax) vaccine containing MRC-5 and RA 273, is obtained from human babies that were electively aborted. The acceptance of this vaccine promotes abortion and violates the Sixth Commandment of "Thou Shall Not Kill".The Hepatitis-B vaccine protects against a disease that is only transmitted through multiple sexual partners or street IV drug users. The acceptance of this vaccine promotes sexual promiscuity and immoral behavior in direct contradiction to the teachings of my faith.For a child under age 18, where parent has to make the statement, concerning Hep B vaccine...The Hepatitis-B vaccine protects against a disease that is only transmitted through multiple sexual partners or street IV drug users and therefore usurps my parental authority to condemn such activity in my child. The acceptance of this vaccine promotes sexual promiscuity and immoral behavior in direct contradiction to the teachings of our faith. ”I believe that inherent in each individual is an innate intelligence, provided by God, which will protect the host environment and provide homeostasis.” “Life and physical health are precious gifts entrusted to us by God. We must take reasonable care of them…” [2288 – Catechism of the Catholic Church 1994]“The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of … medicine.” [2290 – Catechism of the Catholic Church 1994] (Indicate rationale and attach statement from clergy or other authority.)You do not need to belong to a church or religious organization to claim religious exemption from vaccines.Applicable law has been interpreted to mean that a religious belief is subject to protection even though no religious group espouses such beliefs or the fact that the religious group to which the individual professes to belong may not advocate or require such belief. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended Nov. 1, 1980; Part 1605.1-Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Religion.Our legal rights are guaranteed by the free exercise clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Recent court decisions have upheld the rights of individuals seeking exemptions from immunizations based upon personal and religious reasons. On the U.S. Supreme Court level in Frazee V. Illinois Dept. of Security, 489 U.S. 829, it was found that a state may not deny an exemption simply because a person is not a member of a formal religious organization.Angie <angcarter97> wrote:

I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son age 3. I would like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do? Any comments - please? What did others do?

Tistan

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[Guest guest]

When I enrolled my NT, not fully

vaccinated, daughter in preschool I simply explained the situation to them. They

recommended filing a religious waiver.

The director was very helpful. I filled out the form saying that my daughter

is not vaccinated due to religious beliefs. Then I had it notarized. She starts

school in the fall and I’m filing another one then for her.

Pamela

" Courage is doing

what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker,

top US

fighter ace, WWI

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Angie

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007

10:29 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Vaccine

question - please help

I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son

age 3. I would

like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-

to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was

born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his

first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any

after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was

to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School

giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do?

Any comments - please? What did

others do?

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your advice. I respect your opinion and also agree with it very strongly. He will be going only 2 days a week for 2 1/2 hours (9 - 11:30). I'm not taking him for educational reasons. It's more about play. We don't have many small children in our neighborhood most are older or much younger. And our friends that do have children...again older or babies. So, our darling little whirl-wind of energy is often left to play alone or with me. I'm a stay-at-home mom & a pretty cool play date but I do think he needs time to play with other little boys his age. It's a wonderful church and a really neat place for kids, the "teacher" is also a close friend of my mother. He may only go one day a week....just depends, but no more than 2 days...I'm not ready to let go I appreciate your concern and respect your opinions but in the future you might want to hold back a little. You

could really hurt someone's feelings unneccesarily. There are some parents out there who REALLY don't have a choice. They have to work and unfortunatly can't stay home with their children. I've been very blessed to have the option to stay home with my children. Again I DO AGREE with you 100%. Take Care, Angie wrote: If it's a private preschool they don't have to let him in. If it receives any monies, even a

little, from the government they have no choice as to admit him or not, they have to. Regardless, and this is my OPINION only as a mother, grandmother and a Child/Family psychologist, not going to preschool is not a bad thing. Again, in my OPINION, I believe the best place for a 3 year old is with his parents, with occasional, nice mom supervised play dates with other 3 year olds. There are lots of nice studies that show the longer you delay putting your child in any kind of formal education the more independent he will be, the stronger his bonding with his family will be, and the less susceptible to later peer pressure he will be. I

have this fear that by the time my dgd is a mother that the state educational system will show up at the hospital to take her newborn, promising off course to return it at 3 pm. Again, just my opinion, I'm aware the push to put children in a formal educational atmosphere is happening earlier and earlier. Vaccine question - please help I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son age 3. I would like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do? Any comments - please? What did others do?

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thanks for all the info!!! Tistan wrote: Many parents where we live request a religious exemption. We were advised many years ago by a doctor we no longer use (Magaziner of Cherry Hill, NJ) to do so and a sample letter was given to us. The internet is flooded with exemption examples. Each state has its own rules also so check with your state health dpt to see what is needed. For example, some school systems require written proof from a clergy

member. Below are some of the information that we used in one of our letters. We got it off the internet about 5 years ago. It was enough information for the public school systems in Gloucester County, NJ back then when we chose not to immunize our children. All vaccines are made in violation of God’s Word. Vaccines are made with toxic chemicals that are injected into the bloodstream by vaccination. All vaccines are made with foreign proteins (viruses and bacteria), and some vaccines are made with genetically engineered viral and bacterial materials.A conflict arises if you believe that man is made in God’s image and the injection of toxic chemicals and foreign proteins into the bloodstream is a violation of God’s directive to keep the body/temple holy and free from impurities.Vaccines are produced in animal tissues. A conflict

arises if you accept God’s warning not to mix the blood of man with the blood of animals. Some vaccines are produced in aborted fetal tissue.A conflict arises if your religious convictions are predicated on the belief that all life is sacred. God’s commandment “Thou Shall Not Kill” applies to the practice of abortion. When it is believed that the practice of abortion should not be encouraged or supported in any manner, a conflict may arise with vaccines produced in aborted fetal tissue even though you didn’t have anything to do with the abortions from which the vaccines are made from.The Hepatitis-A vaccine containing MRC-5 is obtained from human babies that were electively aborted. WI-38 was created from the tissue of an aborted fetus and is used for the rubella portion of the MMR-II vaccine. RA 273 was created from the tissue of an aborted fetus, and is used for MMR-II vaccine. A conflict arises because my

religious convictions are predicated on the belief that all life is sacred. God's commandment "Thou Shall Not Kill" applies to the practice of abortion. The acceptance of this/these vaccine(s) promotes/promote abortion and violates the Sixth Commandment of "Thou Shall Not Kill". The Chickenpox (Varivax) vaccine containing MRC-5 and RA 273, is obtained from human babies that were electively aborted. The acceptance of this vaccine promotes abortion and violates the Sixth Commandment of "Thou Shall Not Kill".The Hepatitis-B vaccine protects against a disease that is only transmitted through multiple sexual partners or street IV drug users. The acceptance of this vaccine promotes sexual promiscuity and immoral behavior in direct contradiction to the teachings of my faith.For a child under age 18, where parent has to make the statement, concerning Hep B vaccine...The Hepatitis-B vaccine

protects against a disease that is only transmitted through multiple sexual partners or street IV drug users and therefore usurps my parental authority to condemn such activity in my child. The acceptance of this vaccine promotes sexual promiscuity and immoral behavior in direct contradiction to the teachings of our faith. ”I believe that inherent in each individual is an innate intelligence, provided by God, which will protect the host environment and provide homeostasis.” “Life and physical health are precious gifts entrusted to us by God. We must take reasonable care of them…” [2288 – Catechism of the Catholic Church 1994]“The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of … medicine.” [2290 – Catechism of the Catholic Church 1994] (Indicate rationale and attach statement from clergy or other authority.)You do not need to belong to a church or religious organization to claim

religious exemption from vaccines.Applicable law has been interpreted to mean that a religious belief is subject to protection even though no religious group espouses such beliefs or the fact that the religious group to which the individual professes to belong may not advocate or require such belief. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended Nov. 1, 1980; Part 1605.1-Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Religion.Our legal rights are guaranteed by the free exercise clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Recent court decisions have upheld the rights of individuals seeking exemptions from immunizations based upon personal and religious reasons. On the U.S. Supreme Court level in Frazee V. Illinois Dept. of Security, 489 U.S. 829, it was found that a state may not deny an exemption simply because a person is not a member of a formal religious organization.Angie

<angcarter97> wrote: I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son age 3. I would like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do? Any comments - please? What did others do? Tistan Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

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thanks george Wade wrote: <www.amazon.com> What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Children's Vaccinations by Cave and Deborah (Paperback - Sep 1, 2001) Buy new: $14.95 $10.17 56 Used & new from $5.50This may be one very useful reference; but hard to read if you don't know the subject already.MB12 members must know which net references are

inspirational; useful; uphold the American Constitution.A few sources put together will save your son's health. Tell the school that human sacrifice is outlawed in the US ! Of course you may have to tell them very nicely and authoritatively. There may be a couple of shots that are good for us all, too, after all ?( There are non-confrontational methods of dealing with difficult arguments that may be much, much, more important than the facts involved in this case. Those I know of are: 1) Mind Mapping the topic 2) "Getting to Yes" kind of approach 3) de Bono's "Six Thinking Hats."If I were to be told that "The causes of autism are still being researched and that there is no definitive link proven between immunizations and autism; which does have a genetic link." I'd answer: "As there is a 60% genetic

link to autism I want to know the other 40% of the jigsaw puzzle before consenting to indiscriminate multiple immunizations. At the present rate of progress it will take medical researchers another 60 years just to find the funds to do that. So please encourage the funding agencies to get off their ......* "Please imagine the happy, non-confrontational voice and face used. Knowing the names of several law firms that specialize in this kind of legal problem would certainly help. Are there home schooling co-operatives that can help solve these problems ? I'll be getting grandchildren sometime in the next 5 years...Perhaps I'll Mind Map the answers you get to this difficult question. 8-) )Angie wrote: I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son age 3. I would

like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do? Any comments - please? What did others do?

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I wish one of the crazy anti vaccine mothers would have risked hurting our feelings before my dgd was vaccinated and told us that there was a great risk (1 in 150) that she would likely end up with Autism or ADHD in our case. That sure would have saved us a lot of trouble.

People get their feelings hurt from the truth all the time, believe me I do marriage therapy and I see it all the time. But the one indisputable fact is that despite the reality that people get their feelings hurt, it never changes the truth.

In this case based on my experience, I gave my opinion and that is something altogether different. Noone should get their feelings hurt from opinions, we're all free to agree or disagree with them.

My best wishes for you and your family,

Vaccine question - please help

I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son age 3. I would like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do? Any comments - please? What did others do?

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Hi to all, My son Ish was diagnosed july 2006, " Classic Autism " . This

is only the diagnoses not the death sentence, they (professionals)

make it out to be. He was never vacinated in any way, I have had no

vacinations since my teen years. I believe that vacinations for many

are the last trigger to cause sickness. Our childrens bodies and

minds are sick with many triggering polutants. You as the

mother/father of your children have the right to not vacinate your

children. Now that you have a child proven to react to this " trigger "

you have more reason to object. My 9 year old hasn't gotten any

vaccinations beyond 3 years old, I also fefused Pertosin in the DPT

and MMR before being introduced to Autism. She was never refused

admittance into private or public school. Now knowing what I know I

will never let them bully me into giving my children controlled or

uncontrolled amounts of poison. Yes, my son as many other unvacinated

children, prove that vacinations aren't the only poisons in contact

with our children. There are many triggers causing our children to

get sick. Our JOB as parents, as their protectors, as their avocates

are to eliminate as many triggers as we can from our childrens world.

To educate as many as we can to maintane trigger elimination when we

are not around.

Bless you, Love & Faith , Naima

> If it's a private preschool they don't have to let him in. If

it receives any monies, even a little, from the government they have

no choice as to admit him or not, they have to.

>

> Regardless, and this is my OPINION only as a mother,

grandmother and a Child/Family psychologist, not going to preschool

is not a bad thing. Again, in my OPINION, I believe the best place

for a 3 year old is with his parents, with occasional, nice mom

supervised play dates with other 3 year olds.

>

> There are lots of nice studies that show the longer you delay

putting your child in any kind of formal education the more

independent he will be, the stronger his bonding with his family

will be, and the less susceptible to later peer pressure he will be.

>

> I have this fear that by the time my dgd is a mother that the

state educational system will show up at the hospital to take her

newborn, promising off course to return it at 3 pm.

>

> Again, just my opinion, I'm aware the push to put children in a

formal educational atmosphere is happening earlier and earlier.

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>

> Vaccine question - please help

>

>

> I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son age 3. I

would

> like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he

is not up-

> to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after

he was

> born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did

receive his

> first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2

or any

> after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My

plan was

> to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary.

School

> giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know

what to do?

> Any comments - please? What did others do?

>

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I was so shocked to read that post that aborted babies are used in vaccinations.

That seriously makes me want to vomit. I think that an easy to understand ingrediant list for vaccines should be handed to the parent before they decide to give their kids shots or not.

If I had seen "aborted fetal tissues" on the list, I would have taken my kids and ran the hell out of there!!!!

Jen

Vaccine question - please help> > > I have 6 yr old daughter with ASD. I also have a son age 3. I would > like to start my son in preschool this year. Problem is, he is not up-> to-date on his shots. My daughter was diagnosised just after he was > born. Because of my daughter we stopped all shots. He did receive his > first round of shots but none of the boosters..No shots at 2 or any > after..including MMR. I am so scared to give him anything. My plan was > to wait until he was older and give only what is necessary. School > giving me a hard time and may not let him in...I don't know what to do? > Any comments - please? What did others do?> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.>

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