Re: OT: Vitamin A Protocol?

July 1, 2007

We do it through Usman as well-be prepared if your child is a responder for them to get very ill. It is 40 drops for two days...repeat (if you are under Usman) every three months. We did it for three months, and the first time my ds was very ill (105 temp), the second time he got what looked like the measles, and the third time his cheeks turned red. We backed off to doing it once every 6 months...until we retest titers. HTH KAngele wrote: Anyone know what the Vitamin A Protocol is? Dr. Usman recommended doing the Vitamin A and can't remember what she said to do. I'd like to start on it this weekend, but not sure what to do.We have the Vitamin A from Klaire Labs. I thought she said we did it for a day...maybe two and then off for a month and back on... back and forth for 3 months. Not sure how many drops though.We're doing Valtrex 3x/day and also take 1/2tsp of Kirkman's CLO.Thank you for any assistance here...Angele

July 1, 2007

Please you guys be very careful. It depends on what Vit A product you are using. The one From Klaire's is ONLY 5 Drops for 2 days....every six months MAX. The protocol is in Dr. McCandless's book, Starving Brains. Good Luck. Kersten Rojas wrote: We do it through Usman as well-be prepared if your child is a responder for them to get very ill. It is 40 drops for two days...repeat (if you are under Usman) every

three months. We did it for three months, and the first time my ds was very ill (105 temp), the second time he got what looked like the measles, and the third time his cheeks turned red. We backed off to doing it once every 6 months...until we retest titers. HTH KAngele <angele.oconnellgmail> wrote: Anyone know what the Vitamin A Protocol is? Dr. Usman recommended doing the Vitamin A and can't remember what she said to do. I'd like to start on it this weekend, but not sure what to do.We have the Vitamin A from Klaire Labs. I thought she said we did it for a day...maybe two and then off for a month and back on... back and forth for 3 months. Not sure how many drops

though.We're doing Valtrex 3x/day and also take 1/2tsp of Kirkman's CLO.Thank you for any assistance here...Angele

July 1, 2007

Yes, I am aware of this too-BUT we are both patients of Dr. Usman, and she recommends 40 drops every 3 months. It is true. Angel-it is best to call their office though...that is just what she recommended for us, and we use the same product as you from her office. Thanks for your concern . HTH K wrote: Please you guys be very careful. It

depends on what Vit A product you are using. The one From Klaire's is ONLY 5 Drops for 2 days....every six months MAX. The protocol is in Dr. McCandless's book, Starving Brains. Good Luck. Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas> wrote: We do it through Usman as well-be prepared if your child is a responder for them to get very ill. It is 40 drops for two days...repeat (if you are under Usman) every three months. We did it for three months, and the first time my ds was very ill (105 temp), the second time he got what looked like the measles, and the third time his cheeks turned red. We backed off to doing it once every 6 months...until we retest titers. HTH KAngele <angele.oconnellgmail> wrote: Anyone know what the Vitamin A Protocol is? Dr. Usman recommended doing the Vitamin A and can't remember what she said to do. I'd like to start on it this weekend, but not sure what to do.We have the Vitamin A from Klaire Labs. I thought she said we did it for a day...maybe two and then off for a month and back on... back and forth for 3 months. Not sure how many drops though.We're doing Valtrex 3x/day and also take 1/2tsp of Kirkman's CLO.Thank you for any assistance here...Angele

July 1, 2007

May I ask you guys how high your titers were? We had our son

tested, and his numbers are very high (well out of the reference

range)but our doctor is not comfortable with the high-dose

protocol. She prefers a slightly higher daily dose of CLO instead,

and not the Klaire Labs mycellized (sp?) vitamin A.

Dr. Baker/Dr. Pangborn book said the two day protocol seems very

safe, as long as it is done only every 6 months, and that's the

route I'd do as my doctor doesn't support it at all!! I'm

interested that Dr. Usman is doing it more frequently.

Did you see big gains after the reactions? Both my kids are so much

better after a few days of fever; that's a flag to me that they'd do

well with the antivirals and the high-dose vit. A.

Thanks!

> Anyone know what the Vitamin A Protocol is? Dr. Usman

recommended

> doing the Vitamin A and can't remember what she said to do. I'd

like

> to start on it this weekend, but not sure what to do.

>

> We have the Vitamin A from Klaire Labs. I thought she said we did

it

> for a day...maybe two and then off for a month and back on... back

and

> forth for 3 months. Not sure how many drops though.

>

> We're doing Valtrex 3x/day and also take 1/2tsp of Kirkman's CLO.

>

> Thank you for any assistance here...

>

> Angele

>

July 1, 2007

I don't remember what his titers were exactly, other than that they were way up there as well. We saw tremendous gains after each round. I did three rounds-and we will retest this month. Each time my child responded-less severe with each round. I am not sure why she recommends every three months-I just do as I am told because I trust her completely-she is the best in my book. HTH Ka_nwmn wrote: May I ask you guys how high your titers were? We had our son tested, and his numbers are very high (well out of the reference range)but our doctor is not comfortable with the high-dose protocol. She prefers a slightly higher daily dose of CLO instead, and not the Klaire Labs mycellized (sp?) vitamin A.Dr. Baker/Dr. Pangborn book said the two day protocol seems very safe, as long as it is done only every 6 months, and that's the route I'd do as my doctor doesn't support it at all!! I'm interested that Dr. Usman is doing it more frequently.Did you see big gains after the reactions? Both my kids are so much better after a few days of fever; that's a flag to me that they'd do well with the antivirals and the high-dose vit. A.Thanks!> Anyone know what the Vitamin A Protocol is? Dr. Usman recommended > doing the Vitamin A and can't remember what she said to do. I'd like > to start on it this weekend, but not sure what to do.> > We have the Vitamin A from Klaire Labs. I thought she said we did it > for a day...maybe two and then off for a month and back on... back and > forth for 3 months. Not sure how many drops though.> > We're doing Valtrex 3x/day and also take 1/2tsp of

Kirkman's CLO.> > Thank you for any assistance here...> > Angele>

July 1, 2007

Can I ask you what the vitamin A protocol is for? What does it address? I have heard that vitamin A taken in large doses is very toxic and can put you in a coma??? I am really interested in learning more about this protocol. I am from NJ and I believe dr. Usman is too. Thank youKersten Rojas wrote: I don't remember what his titers were exactly, other than that they were way up there as well. We saw tremendous gains after each round. I did three rounds-and we will retest this month. Each time my child responded-less severe with each round. I am not sure why she recommends every three months-I just do as I am told because I trust her completely-she is the best in my book. HTH Ka_nwmn <a_nwmn> wrote: May I ask you guys how high your titers were? We had our son tested, and his numbers are very high (well out of the reference range)but our doctor is not comfortable with the high-dose protocol. She prefers a slightly higher daily dose of CLO instead, and not the Klaire Labs mycellized (sp?) vitamin A.Dr. Baker/Dr. Pangborn book said the two day protocol

seems very safe, as long as it is done only every 6 months, and that's the route I'd do as my doctor doesn't support it at all!! I'm interested that Dr. Usman is doing it more frequently.Did you see big gains after the reactions? Both my kids are so much better after a few days of fever; that's a flag to me that they'd do well with the antivirals and the high-dose vit. A.Thanks!> Anyone know what the Vitamin A Protocol is? Dr. Usman recommended > doing the Vitamin A and can't remember what she said to do. I'd like > to start on it this weekend, but not sure what to do.> > We have the Vitamin A from Klaire Labs. I thought she said we did it > for a day...maybe two and then off for a month and back on... back and > forth for 3 months. Not sure how many drops though.> > We're doing Valtrex 3x/day and also take 1/2tsp of Kirkman's CLO.> > Thank you for any assistance here...> > Angele>

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July 1, 2007

This may seem like a silly question, but what is the difference btw doing the high dose Vit A and using Cod liver oil daily? I'm a little confused. Is the Vit A protocol more? And What titers were done to determine this? Our Dan just has us doing CLO daily and has never mentioned Vit A protocol to us though I do remember reading about it. Kersten Rojas wrote: I don't remember what his titers were exactly, other than that they were way up there as well. We saw

tremendous gains after each round. I did three rounds-and we will retest this month. Each time my child responded-less severe with each round. I am not sure why she recommends every three months-I just do as I am told because I trust her completely-she is the best in my book. HTH Ka_nwmn <a_nwmn> wrote: May I ask you guys how high your titers were? We had our son tested, and his numbers are very high (well out of the reference range)but our doctor is not comfortable with the high-dose protocol. She prefers a slightly higher daily dose of CLO instead, and not the Klaire Labs mycellized (sp?) vitamin A.Dr. Baker/Dr. Pangborn book said the two day protocol seems very safe, as long as

it is done only every 6 months, and that's the route I'd do as my doctor doesn't support it at all!! I'm interested that Dr. Usman is doing it more frequently.Did you see big gains after the reactions? Both my kids are so much better after a few days of fever; that's a flag to me that they'd do well with the antivirals and the high-dose vit. A.Thanks!> Anyone know what

the Vitamin A Protocol is? Dr. Usman recommended > doing the Vitamin A and can't remember what she said to do. I'd like > to start on it this weekend, but not sure what to do.> > We have the Vitamin A from Klaire Labs. I thought she said we did it > for a day...maybe two and then off for a month and back on... back and > forth for 3 months. Not sure how many drops though.> > We're doing Valtrex 3x/day and also take 1/2tsp of Kirkman's CLO.> > Thank you for any assistance here...> > Angele>

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July 1, 2007

The Dr. Usman we see is located in Naperville. She is very knowledgeable and we also think she is one of the best. We did the protocoal too with both of our sons- 40 drops for two days and then again three months later. We really didn't see much from it, so maybe our son is a non-responder. We may try it again later.

Nickie

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Can I ask you what the vitamin A protocol is for? What does it address? I have heard that vitamin A taken in large doses is very toxic and can put you in a coma???

I am really interested in learning more about this protocol. I am from NJ and I believe dr. Usman is too.

Thank youKersten Rojas <kerstenrojas> wrote:

I don't remember what his titers were exactly, other than that they were way up there as well.

We saw tremendous gains after each round. I did three rounds-and we will retest this month. Each time my child responded-less severe with each round.

I am not sure why she recommends every three months-I just do as I am told because I trust her completely-she is the best in my book.

HTH

Ka_nwmn <a_nwmn> wrote:

May I ask you guys how high your titers were? We had our son tested, and his numbers are very high (well out of the reference range)but our doctor is not comfortable with the high-dose protocol. She prefers a slightly higher daily dose of CLO instead, and not the Klaire Labs mycellized (sp?) vitamin A.Dr. Baker/Dr. Pangborn book said the two day protocol seems very safe, as long as it is done only every 6 months, and that's the route I'd do as my doctor doesn't support it at all!! I'm interested that Dr. Usman is doing it more frequently.Did you see big gains after the reactions? Both my kids are so much better after a few days of fever; that's a flag to me that they'd do well with the antivirals and the high-dose vit. A.Thanks!> Anyone know what the Vitamin A Protocol is? Dr. Usman recommended > doing the Vitamin A and can't remember what she said to do. I'd like > to start on it this weekend, but not sure what to do.> > We have the Vitamin A from Klaire Labs. I thought she said we did it > for a day...maybe two and then off for a month and back on... back and > forth for 3 months. Not sure how many drops though.> > We're doing Valtrex 3x/day and also take 1/2tsp of Kirkman's CLO.> > Thank you for any assistance here...> > Angele>

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July 1, 2007

What is the safest highest limit for Vitamin A We are using CLO 2000 I/U My Son 2.8 yrs old Any suggestion Thanks Yahya BRIAN RAZZI wrote: Can I ask you what the vitamin A protocol is for? What does it address? I have heard that vitamin A taken in large doses is very toxic and can put you in a coma??? I am really interested in learning more about this protocol. I

am from NJ and I believe dr. Usman is too. Thank youKersten Rojas <kerstenrojas> wrote: I don't remember what his titers were exactly, other than that they were way up there as well. We saw tremendous gains after each round. I did three rounds-and we will retest this month. Each time my child responded-less severe with each round. I am not sure why she recommends every three months-I just do as I am told because I trust her completely-she is the best in my book. HTH Ka_nwmn <a_nwmn> wrote: May I ask you guys how high your titers were? We had our son tested, and his numbers are very high (well out of the reference range)but our doctor is not comfortable with the high-dose protocol. She prefers a slightly higher daily dose of CLO instead, and not the Klaire Labs mycellized (sp?) vitamin A.Dr. Baker/Dr. Pangborn book said the two day protocol seems very safe, as long as it is done only every 6 months, and that's the route I'd do as my doctor doesn't support it at all!! I'm interested that Dr. Usman is doing it more frequently.Did you see big gains after the reactions? Both my kids are so much better after a few days of fever; that's a flag to me that they'd do well with the antivirals and the high-dose vit. A.Thanks!> Anyone know what the Vitamin A Protocol is? Dr. Usman recommended > doing the Vitamin A and can't remember what she said to do. I'd like > to start on it this weekend, but not sure what to do.> > We have the Vitamin A from Klaire Labs. I thought she said we did it > for a day...maybe two and then off for a month and back on... back and > forth for 3 months. Not sure how many drops though.> > We're doing Valtrex 3x/day and also take 1/2tsp of Kirkman's CLO.> > Thank you

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July 1, 2007

I personally can't tell you what the safest limit

is...I can only tell you what we were prescribed.

That was Klair Labs Mycalized Vit. A drops-40 drops

two days in a row every three months.

It addresses high measles titers-my son was a very

viral kid-and had especially high measles titers.

HTH-I am not suggesting anyone try this without a

DAN-I am just telling you what I have done with

success.

I haven't heard it can put you in a coma-but I have

heard it can be dangerous in very high doses.

K

--- YAHYA USTA wrote:

> What is the safest highest limit for Vitamin A

> We are using CLO 2000 I/U

> My Son 2.8 yrs old

> Any suggestion

> Thanks

> Yahya

>

> BRIAN RAZZI wrote:

> Can I ask you what the vitamin A

> protocol is for? What does it address? I have

> heard that vitamin A taken in large doses is very

> toxic and can put you in a coma???

>

> I am really interested in learning more about this

> protocol. I am from NJ and I believe dr. Usman is

> too.

>

> Thank you

>

> Kersten Rojas wrote:

> I don't remember what his titers were

> exactly, other than that they were way up there as

> well.

>

> We saw tremendous gains after each round. I did

> three rounds-and we will retest this month. Each

> time my child responded-less severe with each round.

>

> I am not sure why she recommends every three

> months-I just do as I am told because I trust her

> completely-she is the best in my book.

>

> HTH

>

> K

>

> a_nwmn wrote:

> May I ask you guys how high your titers were?

> We had our son

> tested, and his numbers are very high (well out of

> the reference

> range)but our doctor is not comfortable with the

> high-dose

> protocol. She prefers a slightly higher daily dose

> of CLO instead,

> and not the Klaire Labs mycellized (sp?) vitamin A.

>

> Dr. Baker/Dr. Pangborn book said the two day

> protocol seems very

> safe, as long as it is done only every 6 months, and

> that's the

> route I'd do as my doctor doesn't support it at

> all!! I'm

> interested that Dr. Usman is doing it more

> frequently.

>

> Did you see big gains after the reactions? Both my

> kids are so much

> better after a few days of fever; that's a flag to

> me that they'd do

> well with the antivirals and the high-dose vit. A.

>

> Thanks!

>

> > Anyone know what the Vitamin A Protocol is? Dr.

> Usman

> recommended

> > doing the Vitamin A and can't remember what she

> said to do. I'd

> like

> > to start on it this weekend, but not sure what to

> do.

> >

> > We have the Vitamin A from Klaire Labs. I thought

> she said we did

> it

> > for a day...maybe two and then off for a month and

> back on... back

> and

> > forth for 3 months. Not sure how many drops

> though.

> >

> > We're doing Valtrex 3x/day and also take 1/2tsp of

> Kirkman's CLO.

> >

> > Thank you for any assistance here...

> >

> > Angele

> >

>

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July 1, 2007

The high dose vitamin A protocol by Drs.McCandless and Baker is

200,000 to 400,000 ius for 2 days in a row only done once every 6

months. Usman may be doing something different. I wouldn't do this

without a doctor, after the first day if you see a scruffy rash around

the neck then DO NOT give the vitamin A the next day. Klaires's

Micellized vitamin A is recommended.

I've done it once with my son, he had 3 what looked like pimples on

his rear end but I did not see any improvements.

>

> This may seem like a silly question, but what is the difference btw

doing the high dose Vit A and using Cod liver oil daily? I'm a little

confused. Is the Vit A protocol more? And What titers were done to

determine this? Our Dan just has us doing CLO daily and has never

mentioned Vit A protocol to us though I do remember reading about it.

>