Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in West Va....check out the comments

January 19, 2010

My son could comprehend hurt, as he obviously must have been dramatically abused

for him to remember it until he got home off the bus. I think when I sat him on

the potty, actually, that it *reminded* him. I think she had threatened him

before against telling because it was so unusual for him to avoid eye contact

and hang his head in shame when someone he knows approaches him. (Like when we

had seen her previously in the store.)Like I said, he even hugs total strangers,

if he can get away with it.

> > > >>

> > > >> I think most people are under the mistaken impression that it

> > > >> won't happen to their child. Or they think it cannot happen

> > > >> in *their* school because their school has great teachers.

> > > >> If your child has limited communication skills, they are more

> > > >> at risk.

> > > >> Trust me, I know.

> > > >> Also, unless you have had any experiences with DFCS or CPS,

> > > >> you do not believe that it can or will happen to you. Trust

> > > >> me, we never thought something like this would happen to us.

> > > >> And I am a great parent and my children are more well behaved

> > > >> than most I have seen in my lifetime.

> > > >> Trust me....it can and *might* happen to those who think this

> > > >> way...one day. Hopefully not, but I continually fight for

> > > >> others because I might need those same people to fight for me

> > > >> one day.

> > > >> If we allow school officials to keep getting away with this

> > > >> behavior, it will eventualy make it around to our

> > > >> neighborhood and by that time, Supreme Court rulings (the law

> > > >> of the land) will have precedence over our children and we won't.

> > > >>

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 19, 2010

I think my post was misunderstood, as it was a mix of a response to her post and

a posting in general to everyone. Because I do not recall thinking that she did

not act quickly. ?? Nor did I mean to imply that. I was merely telling others to

wake up and listen to *all* of our collective stories of abuse, including

Shari's. I am sorry if it came across that way because that is not what I meant.

(I have trouble expressing my thoughts on paper sometimes.)

I, too, acted as quickly as I knew. The first incident in the store just baffled

me and threw me off; I really had NO idea why he would act that way. It was a

warning sign that I did not know was a warning sign at that time. And that is

what I meant to type here is that if any parent (not specifying Shari, because

she already *did* act) sees any of these signs that we saw, please act right

away.

> >

> > Shari, We have to believe everything a young child tells us. What

> > motive (if they even have motives at our children's ages) would they

> > have.

> > My caution to everyone, if you *see* something is not right, then it

> > probably is not. If you *hear* it is not right, as well, trust your

> > child and trust your instinct. Do *not* pass it off because *they ae

> > so nice to you when you pick up your child*. Smiles can be

> > fake....that is their job to be syrupy to you.

> > I am not trying to instill unrealstic fears into anyone, but use your

> > common sense. In both our situations, our children started having

> > toileting problems & behavior that were out of the ordinary. If it

> > planly is not the *usual* for your child, then suspect that something

> > is wrong. make a surprise unannounced visit on different days to your

> > child's school. I did, and found my son in baby diapers in the morning

> > with clean unused underwear in his cubby, on several different occassions.

> > Do not assume that people are going to do the right thing.

> >

>

January 19, 2010

That is not the current case, but that was the case where the parents sewed the

recorder into their child's clothes.

The look on the teacher's face is a look of guilt in my opinion. I do not know

whether she is or not, but I am a pretty good judge of character and she looks

*caught*.

>

> http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130355

> <http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130355 & catid=3>

> & catid=3

>

> I think this is the story your talking about. This child had autism.

> Amazing.

>

> Romero

>

> If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand in front of

> them !!

>

> From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Romero

> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:21 PM

> To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in

> West Va....check out the comments

>

> Oh my gosh. I had not heard about that. I agree with your policy. That

> is really sickening.

>

> Romero

>

> If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand in front of

> them !!

>

> From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of

> agirlnamedsuess21

> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:07 AM

> To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in West

> Va....check out the comments

>

> Recently in the news, there were some parents (in Dekalb County, I think)

> that suspected abuse. They sewed a small recorder into his clothing and

> caught them that very next day. The parapro was asking him if he wanted a

> " shut-up hit " (which indicated it had happened before then because how else

> would he know what that meant).The listener could adibly hear the child

> being hit and the child making a sound as a result of it; this happened

> repeatedly. The cild came home black and blue with bruises wih an excuse

> other than what really happened (obviously because the parents had it

> recorded)

> Then the teachers were *laughing* about him (the child)eating out of the

> trashcan. Then another part of the conversation focused on the teachers

> sanding around talking very, very explicitly (and obviously around this

> child for it to be recorded) about the sex they had on their date the night

> before. It really made me sick when I heard it.

> I think it got posted online somewhere. And to the best of my recollection,

> I think the child was nonverbal.

> My policy: Trust no one.

>

January 19, 2010

Don't beat yourself up over it. I did that for a long time. We live and learn.

You did the best you could and as soon as you knew for sure. I, too, was torn

and trying to make any other sense of what my son was clearly telling me. The

incident from the store was still fresh on my mind (and so were the times I

picked hiim up in diapers). He even got a huge knot on his head one time where

they said he fell off the stairs going up on stage. (He never had problems with

stairs at all.)No incident report was filed by the staff and I questioned it. I

got the documentation in his daily folder (which I still have) and what I

believe now to be a bald-face lie. I think the parapro did it. Whether I am

correct about this particlar incident or not is really irrelevant now.

All that matters now Shari is that our kids are out of these situations and we

are smarter now because of it.

> >

> > Shari, We have to believe everything a young child tells us. What motive

> > (if they even have motives at our children's ages) would they have.

> > My caution to everyone, if you *see* something is not right, then it

> > probably is not. If you *hear* it is not right, as well, trust your child

> > and trust your instinct. Do *not* pass it off because *they ae so nice to

> > you when you pick up your child*. Smiles can be fake....that is their job to

> > be syrupy to you.

> > I am not trying to instill unrealstic fears into anyone, but use your

> > common sense. In both our situations, our children started having toileting

> > problems & behavior that were out of the ordinary. If it planly is not the

> > *usual* for your child, then suspect that something is wrong. make a

> > surprise unannounced visit on different days to your child's school. I did,

> > and found my son in baby diapers in the morning with clean unused underwear

> > in his cubby, on several different occassions.

> > Do not assume that people are going to do the right thing.

> >

>

January 19, 2010

I thought I read he had DS also, but either way, the child was unable to defend

himself against adults.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What do you mean there is a movement to get parents to GIVE UP OUR

> > > > > KIDS!!!!!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > deb

> > > > > > [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by

> > > teacher

> > > > > in West Va....check out the comments

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the pictures in

> my

> > > > > head. But it is ok and now,we are ok.

> > > > > > I really think people need to know what is happening out there

> with

> > > > > our children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on where

> > > > > social services are encouraging mothers to give up their child with

> > > > > Down syndrome.

> > > > > > I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.

> > > > > > What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent than a

> > > > > child's own biological mother (we are assuming here that the

> > > mother is

> > > > > not abusive, etc.) And even then, shouldn't social services try to

> > > > > reunite families and get those who really need help, the help that

> > > > > they need?

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 19, 2010

That was my thought too. She should have been personally sued

as well.

Romero

If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand

in front of them !!

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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:39 PM

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West Va....check out the comments

That is not the current case, but that was the

case where the parents sewed the recorder into their child's clothes.

The look on the teacher's face is a look of guilt in my opinion. I do not know

whether she is or not, but I am a pretty good judge of character and she looks

*caught*.

>

> http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130355

> <http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130355 & catid=3>

> & catid=3

>

> I think this is the story your talking about. This child had autism.

> Amazing.

>

> Romero

>

> If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand in front

of

> them !!

>

> From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ]

On Behalf Of Romero

> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:21 PM

> To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher

in

> West Va....check out the comments

>

> Oh my gosh. I had not heard about that. I agree with your policy. That

> is really sickening.

>

> Romero

>

> If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand in front

of

> them !!

>

> From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ]

On Behalf Of

> agirlnamedsuess21

> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:07 AM

> To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in

West

> Va....check out the comments

>

> Recently in the news, there were some parents (in Dekalb County, I think)

> that suspected abuse. They sewed a small recorder into his clothing and

> caught them that very next day. The parapro was asking him if he wanted a

> " shut-up hit " (which indicated it had happened before then

because how else

> would he know what that meant).The listener could adibly hear the child

> being hit and the child making a sound as a result of it; this happened

> repeatedly. The cild came home black and blue with bruises wih an excuse

> other than what really happened (obviously because the parents had it

> recorded)

> Then the teachers were *laughing* about him (the child)eating out of the

> trashcan. Then another part of the conversation focused on the teachers

> sanding around talking very, very explicitly (and obviously around this

> child for it to be recorded) about the sex they had on their date the

night

> before. It really made me sick when I heard it.

> I think it got posted online somewhere. And to the best of my

recollection,

> I think the child was nonverbal.

> My policy: Trust no one.

>

January 19, 2010

Shari...I would probably have done the same thing in that situation. You are a great mom, and you were doing your best with the information that you had at the time. I don't know how your 'friend' could live with herself, though...how horrible to do what she did!

I went immediately to the teacher. I didn't necessarily believe her, but I DID trust the female aid who was my supposed " friend. " I had known her for 4-5 years, knew her husband and daughters, had been to her church and home. She is the reason I believed them and not Tristan. Plus, Tristan had been known to say things about other kids - like " he hit me " when the other child had not. He had never said an adult had done anything to him, however. The male aid WAS very nice and friendly - he would comment on different Christian songs he liked, etc. I really was torn. I didn't want to ruin his life if Tristan was mistaken or not wording something properly.

At the I was working full-time for an extremely demanding French man. (The BEST boss I ever had was French, and the WORST boss - this one - were both French, and they were best friends. I worked for them 10 years apart.) This guy wanted me in the office at all times when he was. The office was 45 minutes from my home and the school on a good day with little to no traffic (not common in Houston). And at the time I didn't realize you COULD make unexpected visits to the school. Oh, looking back I did a lot of things wrong. I cried many hours over it, but I have trusted my gut since then. That's what makes me so angry - my gut was telling me the man was doing something, but I didn't listen. Uggghhhh.

No offense to you Sue, but from what I read, Shari was very vigilent

and acted immediately when her son started acting strange. Shari DID

listen to her son and Shari DID use common sense to get him out of that

situation as quickly as possible.

It just seems a little wrong to admonish her by suggesting she was not

believing her child, or that she was not trusting her instinct. I

think she did the right thing, and she did it quickly from what I read.

~~~~~~

If we are to go forward, we must go back and rediscover those precious

values - that all reality hinges on moral foundations and that all

reality has spiritual control.

~~~~ Luther King, Jr.

se

Shari, We have to believe everything a young child tells us. What

motive (if they even have motives at our children's ages) would they

have.

My caution to everyone, if you *see* something is not right, then it

probably is not. If you *hear* it is not right, as well, trust your

child and trust your instinct. Do *not* pass it off because *they ae so

nice to you when you pick up your child*. Smiles can be fake....that is

their job to be syrupy to you.

I am not trying to instill unrealstic fears into anyone, but use your

common sense. In both our situations, our children started having

toileting problems & behavior that were out of the ordinary. If it

planly is not the *usual* for your child, then suspect that something

is wrong. make a surprise unannounced visit on different days to your

child's school. I did, and found my son in baby diapers in the morning

with clean unused underwear in his cubby, on several different

occassions.

Do not assume that people are going to do the right thing.

January 19, 2010

just turned 12 in Sept. He is in the 6th grade and has a male aide for his Special Olympics meet and his Hip Hop meet.Even though I 'feel' comfortable with his aide I never let my guard down. Am too afraid of what could occur.

smom

"Where there is passion and a fire burning in your heart, there is hope..."

"I cannot do everything, but still I can do something." Ms. Helen Keller

I think most people are under the mistaken impression that it won't happen to their child. Or they think it cannot happen in *their* school because their school has great teachers.If your child has limited communication skills, they are more at risk.Trust me, I know.Also, unless you have had any experiences with DFCS or CPS, you do not believe that it can or will happen to you. Trust me, we never thought something like this would happen to us. And I am a great parent and my children are more well behaved than most I have seen in my lifetime.Trust me....it can and *might* happen to those who think this way...one day. Hopefully not, but I continually fight for others because I might need those same people to fight for me one day.If we allow school officials to keep getting away with this behavior, it will eventualy make it around to our neighborhood and by that time, Supreme Court rulings (the law of the land) will have precedence

over our children and we won't.

January 19, 2010

She wouldn't be my *friend* anymore, but I am sure Shari has the same attitude,

right? What kind of friend is that. Well, she got what she deserved. FIRED.

> >>

> >> Shari, We have to believe everything a young child tells us. What motive

> >> (if they even have motives at our children's ages) would they have.

> >> My caution to everyone, if you *see* something is not right, then it

> >> probably is not. If you *hear* it is not right, as well, trust your child

> >> and trust your instinct. Do *not* pass it off because *they ae so nice to

> >> you when you pick up your child*. Smiles can be fake....that is their job

to

> >> be syrupy to you.

> >> I am not trying to instill unrealstic fears into anyone, but use your

> >> common sense. In both our situations, our children started having toileting

> >> problems & behavior that were out of the ordinary. If it planly is not the

> >> *usual* for your child, then suspect that something is wrong. make a

> >> surprise unannounced visit on different days to your child's school. I did,

> >> and found my son in baby diapers in the morning with clean unused underwear

> >> in his cubby, on several different occassions.

> >> Do not assume that people are going to do the right thing.

> >>

> >

>

January 19, 2010

Side note: How do you get involved in the Special Olympics?

>

> Â

>

> I think most people are under the mistaken impression that it won't happen to

their child. Or they think it cannot happen in *their* school because their

school has great teachers.

> If your child has limited communication skills, they are more at risk.

> Trust me, I know.

> Also, unless you have had any experiences with DFCS or CPS, you do not believe

that it can or will happen to you. Trust me, we never thought something like

this would happen to us. And I am a great parent and my children are more well

behaved than most I have seen in my lifetime.

> Trust me....it can and *might* happen to those who think this way...one day.

Hopefully not, but I continually fight for others because I might need those

same people to fight for me one day.

> If we allow school officials to keep getting away with this behavior, it will

eventualy make it around to our neighborhood and by that time, Supreme Court

rulings (the law of the land) will have precedence over our children and we

won't.

>

January 19, 2010

My girls are 3 and 7 and they participate in the Young Athlete's program for SOMO...Special Olympic Missouri .

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in West Va....check out the comments

Side note: How do you get involved in the Special Olympics?> > > Â > > > > I think most people are under the mistaken impression that it won't happen to their child. Or they think it cannot happen in *their* school because their school has great teachers.> If your child has limited communication skills, they are more at risk.> Trust me, I know.> Also, unless you have had any experiences with DFCS or CPS, you do not believe that it can or will happen to you. Trust me, we never thought something like this would happen to us. And I am a great parent and my children are more well behaved than most I have seen in my lifetime.> Trust me....it can and *might* happen to those who think this way...one day. Hopefully not, but I continually fight for others because I might need those same people to fight for me one day.> If we allow school officials to keep getting away with this behavior, it will eventualy make it around to our neighborhood and by that time, Supreme Court rulings (the law of the land) will have precedence over our children and we won't.> >

January 19, 2010

Agreed! But I am so unChristian at times that I don't think FIRED was enough for what she did.

She wouldn't be my *friend* anymore, but I am sure Shari has the same attitude, right? What kind of friend is that. Well, she got what she deserved. FIRED.

> >>

> >> Shari, We have to believe everything a young child tells us. What motive

> >> (if they even have motives at our children's ages) would they have.

> >> My caution to everyone, if you *see* something is not right, then it

> >> probably is not. If you *hear* it is not right, as well, trust your child

> >> and trust your instinct. Do *not* pass it off because *they ae so nice to

> >> you when you pick up your child*. Smiles can be fake....that is their job to

> >> be syrupy to you.

> >> I am not trying to instill unrealstic fears into anyone, but use your

> >> common sense. In both our situations, our children started having toileting

> >> problems & behavior that were out of the ordinary. If it planly is not the

> >> *usual* for your child, then suspect that something is wrong. make a

> >> surprise unannounced visit on different days to your child's school. I did,

> >> and found my son in baby diapers in the morning with clean unused underwear

> >> in his cubby, on several different occassions.

> >> Do not assume that people are going to do the right thing.

> >>

> >

>

January 19, 2010

Someone should market those little microphones. I would consider

buying one.

~~~~~~

If we are to go forward, we must go back and rediscover those precious

values - that all reality hinges on moral foundations and that all

reality has spiritual control.

~~~~ Luther King, Jr.

That was my thought

too. She should have been personally sued

as well.

Romero

If

you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand

in front of them !!

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[mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On

Behalf Of agirlnamedsuess21

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:39 PM

To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused

by teacher in

West Va....check out the comments

That is not the current case, but that was the

case where the parents sewed the recorder into their child's clothes.

The look on the teacher's face is a look of guilt in my opinion. I do

not know

whether she is or not, but I am a pretty good judge of character and

she looks

*caught*.

>

> http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130355

> <http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130355 & catid=3>

> & catid=3

>

> I think this is the story your talking about. This child had

autism.

> Amazing.

>

> Romero

>

> If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand

in front

of

> them !!

>

> From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ]

On

Behalf Of Romero

> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:21 PM

> To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused

by teacher

in

> West Va....check out the comments

>

> Oh my gosh. I had not heard about that. I agree with your policy.

That

> is really sickening.

>

> Romero

>

> If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand

in front

of

> them !!

>

> From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ]

On

Behalf Of

> agirlnamedsuess21

> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:07 AM

> To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by

teacher in

West

> Va....check out the comments

>

> Recently in the news, there were some parents (in Dekalb County, I

think)

> that suspected abuse. They sewed a small recorder into his

clothing and

> caught them that very next day. The parapro was asking him if he

wanted a

> "shut-up hit" (which indicated it had happened before then

because how else

> would he know what that meant).The listener could adibly hear the

child

> being hit and the child making a sound as a result of it; this

happened

> repeatedly. The cild came home black and blue with bruises wih an

excuse

> other than what really happened (obviously because the parents had

it

> recorded)

> Then the teachers were *laughing* about him (the child)eating out

of the

> trashcan. Then another part of the conversation focused on the

teachers

> sanding around talking very, very explicitly (and obviously around

this

> child for it to be recorded) about the sex they had on their date

the

night

> before. It really made me sick when I heard it.

> I think it got posted online somewhere. And to the best of my

recollection,

> I think the child was nonverbal.

> My policy: Trust no one.

>

January 20, 2010

Its ok. I get that way sometimes too.

~~~~~~

If we are to go forward, we must go back and rediscover those precious

values - that all reality hinges on moral foundations and that all

reality has spiritual control.

~~~~ Luther King, Jr.

I think my post was misunderstood, as it was a mix of a response

to her post and a posting in general to everyone. Because I do not

recall thinking that she did not act quickly. ?? Nor did I mean to

imply that. I was merely telling others to wake up and listen to *all*

of our collective stories of abuse, including Shari's. I am sorry if it

came across that way because that is not what I meant. (I have trouble

expressing my thoughts on paper sometimes.)

I, too, acted as quickly as I knew. The first incident in the store

just baffled me and threw me off; I really had NO idea why he would act

that way. It was a warning sign that I did not know was a warning sign

at that time. And that is what I meant to type here is that if any

parent (not specifying Shari, because she already *did* act) sees any

of these signs that we saw, please act right away.

> >

> > Shari, We have to believe everything a young child tells us.

What

> > motive (if they even have motives at our children's ages)

would they

> > have.

> > My caution to everyone, if you *see* something is not right,

then it

> > probably is not. If you *hear* it is not right, as well,

trust your

> > child and trust your instinct. Do *not* pass it off because

*they ae

> > so nice to you when you pick up your child*. Smiles can be

> > fake....that is their job to be syrupy to you.

> > I am not trying to instill unrealstic fears into anyone, but

use your

> > common sense. In both our situations, our children started

having

> > toileting problems & behavior that were out of the

ordinary. If it

> > planly is not the *usual* for your child, then suspect that

something

> > is wrong. make a surprise unannounced visit on different days

to your

> > child's school. I did, and found my son in baby diapers in

the morning

> > with clean unused underwear in his cubby, on several

different occassions.

> > Do not assume that people are going to do the right thing.

> >

>

January 20, 2010

They do, but just not as much as they should. I think that the P.I.'s want you

to hire them in order to get them. I used to be a PI. :+)

> > >

> > > http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130355

> > <http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130355>

> > > <http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130355 & catid=3

> > <http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130355 & catid=3>>

> > > & catid=3

> > >

> > > I think this is the story your talking about. This child had autism.

> > > Amazing.

> > >

> > > Romero

> > >

> > > If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand in

> > front of

> > > them !!

> > >

> > > From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> > <mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> > <mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

> > Romero

> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:21 PM

> > > To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> > <mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by

> > teacher in

> > > West Va....check out the comments

> > >

> > > Oh my gosh. I had not heard about that. I agree with your policy. That

> > > is really sickening.

> > >

> > > Romero

> > >

> > > If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand in

> > front of

> > > them !!

> > >

> > > From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> > <mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> > <mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

> > > agirlnamedsuess21

> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:07 AM

> > > To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

> > <mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher

> > in West

> > > Va....check out the comments

> > >

> > > Recently in the news, there were some parents (in Dekalb County, I

> > think)

> > > that suspected abuse. They sewed a small recorder into his clothing and

> > > caught them that very next day. The parapro was asking him if he

> > wanted a

> > > " shut-up hit " (which indicated it had happened before then because

> > how else

> > > would he know what that meant).The listener could adibly hear the child

> > > being hit and the child making a sound as a result of it; this happened

> > > repeatedly. The cild came home black and blue with bruises wih an excuse

> > > other than what really happened (obviously because the parents had it

> > > recorded)

> > > Then the teachers were *laughing* about him (the child)eating out of the

> > > trashcan. Then another part of the conversation focused on the teachers

> > > sanding around talking very, very explicitly (and obviously around this

> > > child for it to be recorded) about the sex they had on their date

> > the night

> > > before. It really made me sick when I heard it.

> > > I think it got posted online somewhere. And to the best of my

> > recollection,

> > > I think the child was nonverbal.

> > > My policy: Trust no one.

> > >

> >

>

January 20, 2010

Definitely agree! She deservethe same sentence the other aid *should* get for

covering up the crime.

> > > >>

> > > >> Shari, We have to believe everything a young child tells us. What

> > motive

> > > >> (if they even have motives at our children's ages) would they have.

> > > >> My caution to everyone, if you *see* something is not right, then it

> > > >> probably is not. If you *hear* it is not right, as well, trust your

> > child

> > > >> and trust your instinct. Do *not* pass it off because *they ae so nice

> > to

> > > >> you when you pick up your child*. Smiles can be fake....that is their

> > job to

> > > >> be syrupy to you.

> > > >> I am not trying to instill unrealstic fears into anyone, but use your

> > > >> common sense. In both our situations, our children started having

> > toileting

> > > >> problems & behavior that were out of the ordinary. If it planly is not

> > the

> > > >> *usual* for your child, then suspect that something is wrong. make a

> > > >> surprise unannounced visit on different days to your child's school. I

> > did,

> > > >> and found my son in baby diapers in the morning with clean unused

> > underwear

> > > >> in his cubby, on several different occassions.

> > > >> Do not assume that people are going to do the right thing.

> > > >>

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 20, 2010

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