Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in West Va....check out the comments

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

This sounds like it was a difficult situation. Hard to tell from the brief

information presented here.

Marsha

>

> it is horrible that the abuse happened in the first place, but now people

> who have commented are making this a case against inclusion..

> http://www.dailymail.com/News/201001150410

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/533205.html

Again, this sounds like this was a VERY difficult situation. The child has Down

syndrome, autism and ADHD. I'm sure that the parents have a difficult time at

home.

Marsha

> >

> > it is horrible that the abuse happened in the first place, but now people

> > who have commented are making this a case against inclusion..

> > http://www.dailymail.com/News/201001150410

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My posted comment about the situation:

A teacher should not be violent at all towards the child.

Why wasn't a behavior plan implemented on his IEP? Although children with Down

syndrome can be stubborn, it is very unlikely that this child acted without

provocation from the teacher or someone else. I have many more questions like

why didn't the teacher send an aid to get the principal to help with the

situation? If the teacher was *afraid* of the child exposing himself to others,

then *everyone* else could have left the room rather than resort to violence.

There are numerous ways I can think of to disarm the situation without resorting

to violence.What was happening prior to the child attempting to remove his

clothing & the teacher's act of violence? There's not enough supervision for all

children (obviously)in this classroom and all classrooms and teachers are not

trained properly how to deal with situations such as these.My vote is for

CAMERAS IN THE CLASSROOMS & accountability for absive children. ONE year isn't

enough!!!

[Guest guest]

How horrible! It scares me to no end that something like

that could happen to my child. I would be the most ballistic mama bear

causing all kinds of heck for that teacher!

I had some real concerns about it though. It says the child was 11

years old, but it says that it happened in Junior high school. I

thought that fifth graders could be anywhere from 10-11 yrs old, and I

thought that was not Junior high, right?

I am wondering if a child with a delay would maybe be a year or two

older than that to be included in a junior high class. I truly am dumb

about the situation & I have no idea how that all works cause I am

still trying to figure out how the transition for Phoebe is going to be

at age 5 when supposedly she is not eligible for PPCD anymore. At

least that is what her teacher told me, but no one can tell me anything

further. I asked about it on several of my Ds lists, but never really

got a response. I guess I will will go into it blind, but that is a

discussion for another day.

I wonder why that school system put an 11 year old in a junior high

class with out at least an aid or something. I do not think any

child should have been hit like that in any

circumstance, but it seems that placement was not the right one until

he got a little older. Or does inclusion mean that no matter how

profound the disability or delay is that the child is included with

their peers? I have to admit that inclusion does worry me, but that is

probably because I have absolutely no idea how it

works. Any thoughts that might help me understand would be greatly

appreciated.

My prayers and thoughts go out to this child and his

family.

Kathy,

This sounds like it was a difficult situation. Hard to tell from the

brief information presented here.

Marsha

>

> it is horrible that the abuse happened in the first place, but now

people

> who have commented are making this a case against inclusion..

> http://www.dailymail.com/News/201001150410

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter was abused at the hands of the teacher and an aid in her class

Rhonda†

Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in West Va....check out the commentsTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 11:58 AM

Kathy,This sounds like it was a difficult situation. Hard to tell from the brief information presented here.Marsha>> it is horrible that the abuse happened in the first place, but now people> who have commented are making this a case against inclusion..> http://www.dailymai l.com/News/ 201001150410>

[Guest guest]

My son was choked by the aide because he had to go the bathroom too many times.

(We had seen some warning signs when he bowed his head in a store when he saw

same parapro and refused to even look at her; dumb me got onto him. Now I learn

to listen to my gut on everything, and I should have known something was up them

because he hugs otal strangers.-something I hate). Also, they did other awful

things like regressed him into diapers and so we had to start al over with potty

training.

Although he is severely apraxic, I never let them know exactly how much sin

language he communicated (and a good thing).

That is when I started thanking God for the doctor finding his immune system

dysfunction, as it gave him a reason to be homebound. We homeschool now and if I

can help it, he will never step foot into a public school or under the direction

of anyone without my presence.

I am just glad he is home. (I recommend this for anyone who is *able* to do so.)

I am very untrusting of *anyone* with my child nowadays.

> >

> > it is horrible that the abuse happened in the first place, but now people

> > who have commented are making this a case against inclusion..

> > http://www.dailymai l.com/News/ 201001150410

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Eleven years-old can be 6th grade. (Just depends on the birthday.)

I have an 11 year-old 6th grader.

The thing about becoming *livid* is that the gov't (DFCS) may end up in control.

(That is another whole story.) If the school retaliates on you, the mother, your

child could be taken into foster care on a false report...sounds like this could

happen in this case with the way the news states the teacher is on *medical

leave*. Trust me on this one!

And then if DFCS did catch wind of it, they get upwards of $8,000. for adopting

out a special needs child. (I know this sounds off on a tangent, but trust me,

without an expensive lawyer, that family does not stand a chance.) Once they

have a *pricey* lawyer, then go bonkers on them.

[Guest guest]

Sure glad my daughter is in a wonderful school district and has great teachers and therapists!! This is one reason I won't move out of this district even though we would love to live in the country. Until they graduate, we stay here. We don't care for our neighbors but we love our schools and teachers !

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in West Va....check out the comments

My son was choked by the aide because he had to go the bathroom too many times. (We had seen some warning signs when he bowed his head in a store when he saw same parapro and refused to even look at her; dumb me got onto him. Now I learn to listen to my gut on everything, and I should have known something was up them because he hugs otal strangers.-something I hate). Also, they did other awful things like regressed him into diapers and so we had to start al over with potty training. Although he is severely apraxic, I never let them know exactly how much sin language he communicated (and a good thing).That is when I started thanking God for the doctor finding his immune system dysfunction, as it gave him a reason to be homebound. We homeschool now and if I can help it, he will never step foot into a public school or under the direction of anyone without my presence.I am just glad he is home. (I recommend this for anyone who is *able* to do so.) I am very untrusting of *anyone* with my child nowadays.> >> > it is horrible that the abuse happened in the first place, but now people> > who have commented are making this a case against inclusion..> > http://www.dailymai l.com/News/ 201001150410> >>

[Guest guest]

Oh my God....

Eleven years-old can be 6th grade. (Just depends on the birthday.)

I have an 11 year-old 6th grader.

The thing about becoming *livid* is that the gov't (DFCS) may end up in

control. (That is another whole story.) If the school retaliates on

you, the mother, your child could be taken into foster care on a false

report...sounds like this could happen in this case with the way the

news states the teacher is on *medical leave*. Trust me on this one!

And then if DFCS did catch wind of it, they get upwards of $8,000. for

adopting out a special needs child. (I know this sounds off on a

tangent, but trust me, without an expensive lawyer, that family does

not stand a chance.) Once they have a *pricey* lawyer, then go bonkers

on them.

[Guest guest]

How did yall finally find out the abuse was happening?

My son was choked by the aide because he had to go the bathroom

too many times. (We had seen some warning signs when he bowed his head

in a store when he saw same parapro and refused to even look at her;

dumb me got onto him. Now I learn to listen to my gut on everything,

and I should have known something was up them because he hugs otal

strangers.-something I hate). Also, they did other awful things

like regressed him into diapers and so we had to start al over with

potty training.

Although he is severely apraxic, I never let them know exactly how much

sin language he communicated (and a good thing).

That is when I started thanking God for the doctor finding his immune

system dysfunction, as it gave him a reason to be homebound. We

homeschool now and if I can help it, he will never step foot into a

public school or under the direction of anyone without my presence.

I am just glad he is home. (I recommend this for anyone who is *able*

to do so.) I am very untrusting of *anyone* with my child nowadays.

> >

> > it is horrible that the abuse happened in the first place,

but now people

> > who have commented are making this a case against inclusion..

> > http://www.dailymai

l.com/News/ 201001150410

> >

>

[Guest guest]

When he got off the bus and came inside to go to the bathroom,(and we started

talk about his day) he put his face in his hands and began crying; he would not

look up at me. (Very uncharacteristic) I began to talk to him and he told me (in

sign language) " choked me " . I asked " who " and he said " black girl " (no offense

please to anyone here of color).I still was befuddled and kept asking questions.

Then I got his daily folder and read it. The parapro/aide (whatever she was) had

taken him to the bathroom 4 or 5 times that day and on return the last time,the

teacher said he came to her and " grabbed his throat " -they were the playground

and the aide came in alone with him each time -(she, the main teacher, was

pretty illiterate about sign language and knew as much as a baby, which was one

of my main gripes, but....anyway) and she wrote, " He must have a sore throat

because he kept trying to tell me this over and over. " (Side note: The day

before we had taken him to the doctor's office after school because he was *raw*

from wearing the diapers I kpt cathching them puttingon him when I would

surprise visit in the middle of the day and I had wanted documentation (the

doctor did a thorough check, head to toe) and he had no sore throat, strep, or

anything else (but the school did not know we had just been to the doctor and

the teacher was suggesting we take him). Also, in his bag was a bag *full* of

literal *crap* and all his underwear. Anyway, I then placed 3 names on different

sheets of paper and placed them in front of my son.

IMMEDIATELY, he grabbed the one with the name of the person he had been

describing to me and started crying hysterically again. Then it all made sense

to me (especially the incident previous to that day where he refused to look up

at this aide when we had run into her in the store. (He was acting like a

scolded puppy and I did not understand why. He ALWAYS hugs EVERYONE...it is so

annoying to me that he does this.) But at that moment I understood, as

everything begn flashing before my eyes o what had happened in the store that

day that really disturbed me. I told him he never had to return to the school

again, he stopped crying, I told him no one would ever hurt him again, and we

never discussed it ever again. I prayed about this and decided I did not want to

fight a failing system that had turned on me before for no reason.

When I went to pick up his belongings at school, he remained in the car with his

sisters. The *odd* thing was everyone kept saying that I should bring him in to

see this one teacher aid and how she was *really* going to miss my son. (That

was the kicker.)

Luckily, we got a diagnosis that gave me an excuse to keep him home and still

get public services in home due to his repeated illness in the school

environment.

I personally would never send a child to school (or anywhere else)who could not

communicate with me what occurred during the day. (I am assuming though that

this 11 year-old could communicate and will.)

I sure am glad we taught him sign language,but I still am not sure where he

learned *that* sign (lucky coiincidence, I guess).

> > > >

> > > > it is horrible that the abuse happened in the first place, but now

> > people

> > > > who have commented are making this a case against inclusion..

> > > > http://www.dailymai l.com/News/ 201001150410

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oh goodness Sue, I am so sorry this happened to you and especially to

your son. Thank God you were able to communicate with him and save him

from this savage. My heart aches for any child that has suffered like

that. You are a great mom for putting him first and for protecting

your son.

When he got off the bus and came inside to go to the bathroom,(and

we started talk about his day) he put his face in his hands and began

crying; he would not look up at me. (Very uncharacteristic) I began to

talk to him and he told me (in sign language)"choked me". I asked "who"

and he said "black girl" (no offense please to anyone here of color).I

still was befuddled and kept asking questions. Then I got his daily

folder and read it. The parapro/aide (whatever she was) had taken him

to the bathroom 4 or 5 times that day and on return the last time,the

teacher said he came to her and "grabbed his throat"-they were the

playground and the aide came in alone with him each time -(she, the

main teacher, was pretty illiterate about sign language and knew as

much as a baby, which was one of my main gripes, but....anyway) and she

wrote, "He must have a sore throat because he kept trying to tell me

this over and over." (Side note: The day before we had taken him to the

doctor's office after school because he was *raw* from wearing the

diapers I kpt cathching them puttingon him when I would surprise visit

in the middle of the day and I had wanted documentation (the doctor did

a thorough check, head to toe) and he had no sore throat, strep, or

anything else (but the school did not know we had just been to the

doctor and the teacher was suggesting we take him). Also, in his bag

was a bag *full* of literal *crap* and all his underwear. Anyway, I

then placed 3 names on different sheets of paper and placed them in

front of my son.

IMMEDIATELY, he grabbed the one with the name of the person he had been

describing to me and started crying hysterically again. Then it all

made sense to me (especially the incident previous to that day where he

refused to look up at this aide when we had run into her in the store.

(He was acting like a scolded puppy and I did not understand why. He

ALWAYS hugs EVERYONE...it is so annoying to me that he does this.) But

at that moment I understood, as everything begn flashing before my eyes

o what had happened in the store that day that really disturbed me. I

told him he never had to return to the school again, he stopped crying,

I told him no one would ever hurt him again, and we never discussed it

ever again. I prayed about this and decided I did not want to fight a

failing system that had turned on me before for no reason.

When I went to pick up his belongings at school, he remained in the car

with his sisters. The *odd* thing was everyone kept saying that I

should bring him in to see this one teacher aid and how she was

*really* going to miss my son. (That was the kicker.)

Luckily, we got a diagnosis that gave me an excuse to keep him home and

still get public services in home due to his repeated illness in the

school environment.

I personally would never send a child to school (or anywhere else)who

could not communicate with me what occurred during the day. (I am

assuming though that this 11 year-old could communicate and will.)

I sure am glad we taught him sign language,but I still am not sure

where he learned *that* sign (lucky coiincidence, I guess).

> > > >

> > > > it is horrible that the abuse happened in the first

place, but now

> > people

> > > > who have commented are making this a case against

inclusion..

> > > > http://www.dailymai l.com/News/

201001150410

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the pictures in my head. But it

is ok and now,we are ok.

I really think people need to know what is happening out there with our

children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on where social services

are encouraging mothers to give up their child with Down syndrome.

I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.

What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent than a child's own

biological mother (we are assuming here that the mother is not abusive, etc…)

And even then, shouldn't social services try to reunite families and get those

who really need help, the help that they need?

[Guest guest]

Stay strong girlfriend. Dont let anyone tell you that you are not a

good mom.

I guess the best bet is to stay out of the way of child protective

services as much as possible.

I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the pictures in

my head. But it is ok and now,we are ok.

I really think people need to know what is happening out there with our

children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on where social

services are encouraging mothers to give up their child with Down

syndrome.

I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.

What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent than a child's

own biological mother (we are assuming here that the mother is not

abusive, etc…) And even then, shouldn't social services try to reunite

families and get those who really need help, the help that they need?

[Guest guest]



Crap like that makes me so mad I can't speak!!!

One more reason I feel hsing is the BEST thing for my baby!!!

Good thing you're a christian!!

Deb

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in West Va....check out the comments

My son was choked by the aide because he had to go the bathroom too many times. (We had seen some warning signs when he bowed his head in a store when he saw same parapro and refused to even look at her; dumb me got onto him. Now I learn to listen to my gut on everything, and I should have known something was up them because he hugs otal strangers.-something I hate). Also, they did other awful things like regressed him into diapers and so we had to start al over with potty training. Although he is severely apraxic, I never let them know exactly how much sin language he communicated (and a good thing).That is when I started thanking God for the doctor finding his immune system dysfunction, as it gave him a reason to be homebound. We homeschool now and if I can help it, he will never step foot into a public school or under the direction of anyone without my presence.I am just glad he is home. (I recommend this for anyone who is *able* to do so.) I am very untrusting of *anyone* with my child nowadays.> >> > it is horrible that the abuse happened in the first place, but now people> > who have commented are making this a case against inclusion..> > http://www.dailymai l.com/News/ 201001150410> >>

[Guest guest]

What do you mean there is a movement to get parents to GIVE UP OUR KIDS!!!!!!!

deb

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in West Va....check out the comments

I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the pictures in my head. But it is ok and now,we are ok. I really think people need to know what is happening out there with our children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on where social services are encouraging mothers to give up their child with Down syndrome.I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent than a child's own biological mother (we are assuming here that the mother is not abusive, etc…) And even then, shouldn't social services try to reunite families and get those who really need help, the help that they need?

[Guest guest]

yep.

> >

> > I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the pictures in my

> > head. But it is ok and now,we are ok.

> > I really think people need to know what is happening out there with

> > our children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on where

> > social services are encouraging mothers to give up their child with

> > Down syndrome.

> > I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.

> > What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent than a child's

> > own biological mother (we are assuming here that the mother is not

> > abusive, etc...) And even then, shouldn't social services try to

> > reunite families and get those who really need help, the help that

> > they need?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No one (doctor, etc...) tried to get you to adopt your child with DS out?

>

> What do you mean there is a movement to get parents to GIVE UP OUR KIDS!!!!!!!

>

> deb

> [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in West

Va....check out the comments

>

>

>

> I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the pictures in my head.

But it is ok and now,we are ok.

> I really think people need to know what is happening out there with our

children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on where social services

are encouraging mothers to give up their child with Down syndrome.

> I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.

> What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent than a child's own

biological mother (we are assuming here that the mother is not abusive, etc.)

And even then, shouldn't social services try to reunite families and get those

who really need help, the help that they need?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here is a good example:(Posted from another group)

The story of 11 year old Zakhquery Price has grown by leaps and bounds. See

original story here.

Carole Reynolds, Zakh's Grandmother has encountered a roller coaster ride of

emotions trying to keep Zakh out of jail and/or mental institutions. She

informed me that the public defender was angry with her for " going public " by

claiming " she had a deal worked out " but now can't get him as " good a deal " . In

other words, the felony charges are still on. The " good deal " was never shared

with the family because the public defender claimed that Zakh was the client,

not his family.

They were supposed to go to court over the charges on January 12 but now the

date has been postponed to April 13

http://tinyurl.com/yzyveev

***************

The teacher abused the kid, the kid retaliated and now they are trying to jail

or institutionalize the child.

What does that sound like to you? And all because the mm went public, probably.

>

> What do you mean there is a movement to get parents to GIVE UP OUR KIDS!!!!!!!

>

> deb

> [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher in West

Va....check out the comments

>

>

>

> I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the pictures in my head.

But it is ok and now,we are ok.

> I really think people need to know what is happening out there with our

children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on where social services

are encouraging mothers to give up their child with Down syndrome.

> I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.

> What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent than a child's own

biological mother (we are assuming here that the mother is not abusive, etc.)

And even then, shouldn't social services try to reunite families and get those

who really need help, the help that they need?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just do not understand why an 11 year old would have to be kept out

of JAIL???????

Here is a good example:(Posted from another group)

The story of 11 year old Zakhquery Price has grown by leaps and bounds.

See

original story here.

Carole Reynolds, Zakh's Grandmother has encountered a roller coaster

ride of

emotions trying to keep Zakh out of jail and/or mental institutions. She

informed me that the public defender was angry with her for "going

public" by

claiming "she had a deal worked out" but now can't get him as "good a

deal". In

other words, the felony charges are still on. The "good deal" was never

shared

with the family because the public defender claimed that Zakh was the

client,

not his family.

They were supposed to go to court over the charges on January 12 but

now the

date has been postponed to April 13

http://tinyurl.com/yzyveev

***************

The teacher abused the kid, the kid retaliated and now they are trying

to jail or institutionalize the child.

What does that sound like to you? And all because the mm went public,

probably.

>

> What do you mean there is a movement to get parents to GIVE UP OUR

KIDS!!!!!!!

>

> deb

> [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by

teacher in West Va....check out the comments

>

>

>

> I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the pictures in

my head. But it is ok and now,we are ok.

> I really think people need to know what is happening out there

with our children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on

where social services are encouraging mothers to give up their child

with Down syndrome.

> I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.

> What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent than a

child's own biological mother (we are assuming here that the mother is

not abusive, etc.) And even then, shouldn't social services try to

reunite families and get those who really need help, the help that they

need?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Do you think this autistic child with Down syndrome is the one at fault?

(because they do and he is being charged with a felonious crime)

> > >

> > > What do you mean there is a movement to get parents to GIVE UP OUR

> > KIDS!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > deb

> > > [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by teacher

> > in West Va....check out the comments

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the pictures in my

> > head. But it is ok and now,we are ok.

> > > I really think people need to know what is happening out there with

> > our children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on where

> > social services are encouraging mothers to give up their child with

> > Down syndrome.

> > > I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.

> > > What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent than a

> > child's own biological mother (we are assuming here that the mother is

> > not abusive, etc.) And even then, shouldn't social services try to

> > reunite families and get those who really need help, the help that

> > they need?

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, Here is a link that provides two additional links about this poor child.

[Guest guest]

Thanks

, Here is a link that provides two additional links about

this poor child.

[Guest guest]

I did not think he had Down syndrome. I thought he was

Autistic with ADHD.

Regardless, I do not think he has committed a felony that deserves jail

time, IMHO. If he is violent or inappropriate in a classroom setting,

he needs specialized care in a different situation with experts to help

him change his behavior. Labeling him a criminal will only exacerbate

the behavior and not solve the issues that he needs to deal with in a

therapeutic environment.

Where are the child psychologists? Where are the behavioral

specialists? Or even just a pediatrician that might provide some

directions in medications that might help this child.

I just cannot wrap my brain around the fact that this is an 11 year old

child we are speaking of. Two full years before barely being a

teenager. He is in 5th grade, which is still elementary school in my

area. How in the world any person can think that needs to be

dealt with by jail time only shows how far our society has

deteriorated. I pray that rationed care does not come to affect these

type of situations where children might be denied the help they need in

order to deal with situations like this, in favor of sending them into

institutions to wither and die.

Do you think this autistic child with Down syndrome is the one at

fault? (because they do and he is being charged with a felonious crime)

> > >

> > > What do you mean there is a movement to get parents to

GIVE UP OUR

> > KIDS!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > deb

> > > [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds

abused by teacher

> > in West Va....check out the comments

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the

pictures in my

> > head. But it is ok and now,we are ok.

> > > I really think people need to know what is happening out

there with

> > our children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on

where

> > social services are encouraging mothers to give up their

child with

> > Down syndrome.

> > > I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.

> > > What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent

than a

> > child's own biological mother (we are assuming here that the

mother is

> > not abusive, etc.) And even then, shouldn't social services

try to

> > reunite families and get those who really need help, the help

that

> > they need?

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

My bad... I think you are right. I probably was just so angry when I read it

that I related my child to the situation in my mind.

Sorry..

Nonetheless, as parents of children with special needs, it would not be a bad

idea to support the family.

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> > > > > What do you mean there is a movement to get parents to GIVE UP OUR

> > > > KIDS!!!!!!!

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> > > > > [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Child w/Ds abused by

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> > > > in West Va....check out the comments

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> > > > > I was in tears just typing the post and reliving the pictures in my

> > > > head. But it is ok and now,we are ok.

> > > > > I really think people need to know what is happening out there with

> > > > our children. And unfortunately, there is a movement going on where

> > > > social services are encouraging mothers to give up their child with

> > > > Down syndrome.

> > > > > I just cannot understand any reasoning behind that.

> > > > > What makes anyone else a better candidate for a parent than a

> > > > child's own biological mother (we are assuming here that the

> > mother is

> > > > not abusive, etc.) And even then, shouldn't social services try to

> > > > reunite families and get those who really need help, the help that

> > > > they need?

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