Re: OT - Visual Therapy

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Hi Karmen-

We have done visual therapy with both my boys (11yo PDD-NOS & 9yo ASD). They both had specific visual symptoms that were both targeted and relieved by the vision therapy. We saw an excellent developmental optometrist with years of experience and a wonderfully trained VT staff. My 11 yo is done with his course of VT but my 9 yo is still going for 2 sessions per week. Feel free to email me directly off-post if you would like more details or have any other questions. I am actually an optometrist myself, but am not specifically trained in VT. If you are considering VT, I would definitely recommend you find a developmental optometrist or someone very experienced in it.

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Thanks Sheri,

I have been given a very good recommendation. An optometrist in my county who specializes in Vision Therapy. He is very well known. My concern is that my daughter who MAY have hypersensitive vision has extreme anxiety challenges, and drs. offices of any kind are a great source of distress for her. Without a physician even touching her it oftentimes takes several people to hold her down. She cannot see any medical instruments whatsoever, or she begins to have exhausting behavior which does not subside until we are walking out of the facility door. My questions for this dr. prior to the appt., should I make one, would be: how would you handle an extremely anxious autistic 5 yr. old child? Do you feel that vision therapy would help with her hypersensitve vision which may be causing some of her distress? Can anything be achieved without the use of medical instruments?

My daughter has seen an opthamologist who needed 4 staff members to help in the exam. At no time was my daughter letting up with her behavior. She is that frightened. She hates the light probe the most, which is one of the most widely used instrument in any medical genre. I'm sure the optometrist would need to get very close to her to look into her eyes. This won't be happening with my daughter unless there are 3 other people on hand to hold her down. And if that happens she also will not be cooperative with questions even if she understands them. When she gets anxious she starts spouting out words that make no sense and her anxieties escalate to where she has no comprehension whatsoever. So I am dealing with a sensitive situation and wondering if the vision therapy would even work due to her anxieties.

Thank you again for responding. And yes, I'd love to get more details privately.

Karmen

Re: OT - Visual Therapy

Hi Karmen-

We have done visual therapy with both my boys (11yo PDD-NOS & 9yo ASD). They both had specific visual symptoms that were both targeted and relieved by the vision therapy. We saw an excellent developmental optometrist with years of experience and a wonderfully trained VT staff. My 11 yo is done with his course of VT but my 9 yo is still going for 2 sessions per week. Feel free to email me directly off-post if you would like more details or have any other questions. I am actually an optometrist myself, but am not specifically trained in VT. If you are considering VT, I would definitely recommend you find a developmental optometrist or someone very experienced in it.

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I would call the dr's office and ask them ahead of time how they would handle it. The one we had when Mke was little was awesome-he could tell alot without touching a child just by watching them move. good luck with it.kcboone wrote: Thanks Sheri, I have been given a very good recommendation. An optometrist in my county who specializes in

Vision Therapy. He is very well known. My concern is that my daughter who MAY have hypersensitive vision has extreme anxiety challenges, and drs. offices of any kind are a great source of distress for her. Without a physician even touching her it oftentimes takes several people to hold her down. She cannot see any medical instruments whatsoever, or she begins to have exhausting behavior which does not subside until we are walking out of the facility door. My questions for this dr. prior to the appt., should I make one, would be: how would you handle an extremely anxious autistic 5 yr. old child? Do you feel that vision therapy would help with her hypersensitve vision which may be causing some of her distress? Can anything be achieved without the use of medical instruments? My daughter has seen an opthamologist who needed 4 staff

members to help in the exam. At no time was my daughter letting up with her behavior. She is that frightened. She hates the light probe the most, which is one of the most widely used instrument in any medical genre. I'm sure the optometrist would need to get very close to her to look into her eyes. This won't be happening with my daughter unless there are 3 other people on hand to hold her down. And if that happens she also will not be cooperative with questions even if she understands them. When she gets anxious she starts spouting out words that make no sense and her anxieties escalate to where she has no comprehension whatsoever. So I am dealing with a sensitive situation and wondering if the vision therapy would even work due to her anxieties. Thank you again for responding. And yes, I'd love to get more details

privately. Karmen Re: OT - Visual Therapy Hi Karmen- We have done visual therapy with both my boys (11yo PDD-NOS & 9yo ASD). They

both had specific visual symptoms that were both targeted and relieved by the vision therapy. We saw an excellent developmental optometrist with years of experience and a wonderfully trained VT staff. My 11 yo is done with his course of VT but my 9 yo is still going for 2 sessions per week. Feel free to email me directly off-post if you would like more details or have any other questions. I am actually an optometrist myself, but am not specifically trained in VT. If you are considering VT, I would definitely recommend you find a developmental optometrist or someone very experienced in it. Sheri Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL.com.

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Mike had vision therapy with 2 different doctors at age 6. his vision was very hyper-everything was magnified and he felt like it was on top of him. The prisms helped alot with depth perception and anxiety. He still had a problem where his eyes would spasm when shifting focus from near to far. A more local Dr addressed that issue with eye exercises. although there were improvements, it is not perfect, even now. It was well worth it-it made Mike much less distracted and more relaxed.kcboone wrote: Hi, Just wanted to know if anyone has done visual therapy with their child? If so, what did it entail, why did you initially seek a visual therapist, and what was the outcome? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Karmen

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Thanks

This is great information. I am hoping that something will help my daughter's anxieties. They are really getting out of control. Just yesterday she couldn't walk through my friends home to get to their pool. I had to carry her and all the while she buried her head in my shirt. I'd like for her to be at the very least, comfortable enough to walk through places.

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Re: OT - Visual Therapy

Mike had vision therapy with 2 different doctors at age 6. his vision was very hyper-everything was magnified and he felt like it was on top of him. The prisms helped alot with

depth perception and anxiety. He still had a problem where his eyes would spasm when shifting focus from near to far. A more local Dr addressed that issue with eye exercises. although there were improvements, it is not perfect, even now. It was well worth it-it made Mike much less distracted and more relaxed.kcboone <kcboonecomcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi,

Just wanted to know if anyone has done visual therapy with their child? If so, what did it entail, why did you initially seek a visual therapist, and what was the outcome?

Any information would be appreciated. Thank you.

Karmen

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Any idea which sense is the most hyper/hypo? I had to work on hearing and touch before vision-they were both huge for Mike. Vision came in third. Anxiety is most likely a processing issue in one or more of these senses. Some kids experience immediate, profound changes just putting prism lenses on for a few minutes. for mike, first ear plugs, then motion sickness medication , then AIT were very dramatic. AIT caused sensory crossover in vision, touch, and smell. I saw a little boy in the optometrist's office say mom for the first time 2 seconds after puttin g on prism lenses. Everyone in the office was bawling-he was 8 years old.kcboone wrote: Thanks This is great information. I am hoping that something will help my daughter's anxieties. They are really getting out of control. Just yesterday she couldn't walk through my friends home to get to their pool. I had to carry her and all the while she buried her head in my shirt. I'd like for her to be at the very least, comfortable enough to walk through places. Karmen Re: OT - Visual Therapy Mike had vision therapy with 2 different doctors at age 6. his vision was very hyper-everything was magnified and he felt like it was on top of him. The prisms helped alot with depth perception and anxiety. He still had a problem where his eyes would spasm when shifting focus from near to far. A more local Dr addressed that issue with eye exercises. although there were improvements, it is not perfect, even now. It

was well worth it-it made Mike much less distracted and more relaxed.kcboone <kcboonecomcast (DOT) net> wrote: Hi, Just wanted to know if anyone has done visual therapy with their child? If so, what did it entail, why did you initially seek a visual therapist, and what was the outcome? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Karmen Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

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How is it determined if a child has hyper vision? Many, many years ago we took our oldest to a specialist in White Plains, NY and got him Prism glasses. We were not advised that he had hyper or hypo vision but at the time we researched these glasses and were told it could reduce his stimming, anxiety, and help him become verbal. Unfortunately, the glasses did not work for him but I am curious about finding more information for my middle child. He has many of the anxiety issues that some of you have posted that your own children have. He has gotten a regular eye examination by an optometrist and we were advised his vision was fine. Do I bring him to a special Neuro-Optometrist or a vision therapist to be checked for hyper-vision? Thank you in advance for your response. Curtin wrote: Any idea which sense is the most hyper/hypo? I had to work on hearing and touch before vision-they were both huge for Mike. Vision came in third. Anxiety is most likely a processing issue in one or more of these senses. Some kids experience immediate, profound changes just putting prism lenses on for a few minutes. for mike, first ear plugs, then motion sickness medication , then AIT were very dramatic. AIT caused sensory crossover in vision, touch, and smell. I saw a little boy in the optometrist's office say mom for the first

time 2 seconds after puttin g on prism lenses. Everyone in the office was bawling-he was 8 years old.kcboone <kcboonecomcast (DOT) net> wrote: Thanks This is great information. I am hoping that something will help my daughter's anxieties. They are really getting out of control. Just yesterday she couldn't walk through my friends home to get to their pool. I had to carry her and all the while she buried her head in my shirt. I'd like for her to be at the very least, comfortable enough to walk through places. Karmen Re: OT - Visual Therapy Mike had vision therapy with 2 different doctors at age 6. his vision was very hyper-everything was magnified and he felt like it was on top of him. The prisms helped alot with depth perception and anxiety. He still had a problem where his eyes would spasm when shifting focus from near to far. A more local Dr addressed that issue

with eye exercises. although there were improvements, it is not perfect, even now. It was well worth it-it made Mike much less distracted and more relaxed.kcboone <kcboonecomcast (DOT) net> wrote: Hi, Just wanted to know if anyone has done visual therapy with their child? If so, what did it entail, why did you initially seek a visual therapist, and what was the outcome? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Karmen Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Tistan

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My daughter, Peri, completed AIT about 2 wks. ago. She has been on a waiting list for OT at an excellent rehab. center since March. We were finally called last Friday about an opening for an eval. and treatment. The eval. is Thursday. Treatment will follow. I know Peri would benefit from private OT with an emphasis on a specific sensory diet. Once that gets underway, I would like to pursue the vision therapy. I have always felt that these specialty therapies have the most beneficial impact when done in a specific order and not much time allotted in between. Thats why I did the AIT first, in hopes it would help Peri to self regulate herself better when she gets anxious. Now with the start of private OT, I feel that her coping skills will be further strengthened. At least thats my HOPE.

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Mike had vision therapy with 2 different doctors at age 6. his vision was very hyper-everything was magnified and he felt like it was on top of him. The prisms helped alot with

depth perception and anxiety. He still had a problem where his eyes would spasm when shifting focus from near to far. A more local Dr addressed that issue with eye exercises. although there were improvements, it is not perfect, even now. It was well worth it-it made Mike much less distracted and more relaxed.kcboone <kcboonecomcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi,

Just wanted to know if anyone has done visual therapy with their child? If so, what did it entail, why did you initially seek a visual therapist, and what was the outcome?

Any information would be appreciated. Thank you.

Karmen

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Hi ,

Hypersensitive vision was mentioned when my daughter was being tested for Sensory Integration Dysfunction. It was suggested that her vision was affected by SID, and that she may be seeing things/colors more acutely than most. I had explained to the therapist that my daughter's onset of an anxiety attack always starts with her visually looking at something, then trying to turn away from it, but still watching it from the corner of her eye. After she becomes this fixated on the object that is 'triggering' her anxiety attack, she either slowly gets up, backing away from it and shaking or gets up, turns around and runs with all her might SCREAMING at the top of her lungs. She will not go back into the room where the object is until the object is gone, and from that point on she is very antsy, sometimes for days afterwards, whenever entering that room. At times she has refused to re-enter a room and will do anyone physical harm who tries to get her to go back. Another reason that I too think her vision is the culprit is the items that she is MOST fearful of, the latest being grocery store circulars. She cannot look at them at all. She just sees it on the table and begins to scream 'PUT IT IN THE TRASH!, PUT IT IN THE TRASH! MOMMY WILL TAKE IT AWAY' Then she starts screaming words that don't make any sense. She has also done this with calendars and a small picture hanging in my dining room which only has an apple, a jar, and a dish in the picture. Nothing upsetting, just everyday items. So I am interested in vision therapy to see if it will help her. I'm curious about the prism glasses. What do they do? How are they suppose to help?

Karmen

Re: OT - Visual Therapy

Mike had vision therapy with 2 different doctors at age 6. his vision was very hyper-everything was magnified and he felt like it was on top of him. The prisms helped alot with

depth perception and anxiety. He still had a problem where his eyes would spasm when shifting focus from near to far. A more local Dr addressed that issue with eye exercises. although there were improvements, it is not perfect, even now. It was well worth it-it made Mike much less distracted and more relaxed.kcboone <kcboonecomcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi,

Just wanted to know if anyone has done visual therapy with their child? If so, what did it entail, why did you initially seek a visual therapist, and what was the outcome?

Any information would be appreciated. Thank you.

Karmen

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Don't let me read too much into a description that is only text,

Karmen: If this was my daughter I would try chelation, when it fitted

in with everything else, just to see how the SID might fade away, or

not. There are several ways of chelating so it is often possible to

find one that works out.

I hope that comment is useful to someone, even if it doesn't apply to

your daughter.

kcboone wrote:

>

> Hi ,

>

> Hypersensitive vision was mentioned when my daughter was being tested

> for Sensory Integration Dysfunction. It was suggested that her vision

> was affected by SID, and that she may be seeing things/colors more

> acutely than most. I had explained to the therapist that my

> daughter's onset of an anxiety attack always starts with her visually

> looking at something, then trying to turn away from it, but still

> watching it from the corner of her eye. After she becomes this

> fixated on the object that is 'triggering' her anxiety attack, she

> either slowly gets up, backing away from it and shaking or gets up,

> turns around and runs with all her might SCREAMING at the top of her

> lungs. She will not go back into the room where the object is until

> the object is gone, and from that point on she is very antsy,

> sometimes for days afterwards, whenever entering that room. At times

> she has refused to re-enter a room and will do anyone physical harm

> who tries to get her to go back. Another reason that I too think her

> vision is the culprit is the items that she is MOST fearful of, the

> latest being grocery store circulars. She cannot look at them at

> all. She just sees it on the table and begins to scream 'PUT IT IN

> THE TRASH!, PUT IT IN THE TRASH! MOMMY WILL TAKE IT AWAY' Then she

> starts screaming words that don't make any sense. She has also done

> this with calendars and a small picture hanging in my dining room

> which only has an apple, a jar, and a dish in the picture. Nothing

> upsetting, just everyday items. So I am interested in vision therapy

> to see if it will help her. I'm curious about the prism glasses.

> What do they do? How are they suppose to help?

>

> Karmen

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Hi Karmen, I thought maybe it would be best if you visited the website for the group of doctors that we brought our child to. There are some articles listed under news and abstracts that would answer your questions better that I could. Again, although Dr. Kaplan was amazing and informative, the glasses didn't help our oldest. We tried it, but then again, there is really nothing out there biomedical that we haven't done. I have seen them work though with our son's fellow classmates. The website is www.autisticvision.com I hope this information helps and have a great day. Tistan kcboone wrote: Hi , Hypersensitive vision was mentioned when my daughter was being tested for Sensory Integration Dysfunction. It was suggested that her vision was affected by SID, and that she may be seeing things/colors more acutely than most. I had explained to the therapist that my daughter's onset of an anxiety attack always starts with her visually looking at something, then trying to turn away from it, but still watching it from the corner of her eye. After she becomes this fixated on the object that is 'triggering' her

anxiety attack, she either slowly gets up, backing away from it and shaking or gets up, turns around and runs with all her might SCREAMING at the top of her lungs. She will not go back into the room where the object is until the object is gone, and from that point on she is very antsy, sometimes for days afterwards, whenever entering that room. At times she has refused to re-enter a room and will do anyone physical harm who tries to get her to go back. Another reason that I too think her vision is the culprit is the items that she is MOST fearful of, the latest being grocery store circulars. She cannot look at them at all. She just sees it on the table and begins to scream 'PUT IT IN THE TRASH!, PUT IT IN THE TRASH! MOMMY WILL TAKE IT AWAY' Then she starts screaming words that don't make any sense. She has also done this with calendars and a small picture hanging in my dining room which only has an apple, a jar, and a dish in the

picture. Nothing upsetting, just everyday items. So I am interested in vision therapy to see if it will help her. I'm curious about the prism glasses. What do they do? How are they suppose to help? Karmen Re: OT - Visual Therapy Mike had vision therapy with 2 different doctors at age 6. his vision was very hyper-everything was magnified and he felt like it was on top of him. The prisms helped alot with depth perception and anxiety. He still had a problem where his eyes would spasm when shifting focus from near to far. A more local Dr addressed that issue with eye exercises. although there were improvements, it is not perfect, even now. It was well worth it-it made Mike much less distracted and more relaxed.kcboone <kcboonecomcast (DOT) net>

wrote: Hi, Just wanted to know if anyone has done visual therapy with their child? If so, what did it entail, why did you initially seek a visual therapist, and what was the outcome? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Karmen Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Tistan Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life,

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Thanks ,

I will look into the website.

Karmen

Re: OT - Visual Therapy

Mike had vision therapy with 2 different doctors at age 6. his vision was very hyper-everything was magnified and he felt like it was on top of him. The prisms helped alot with

depth perception and anxiety. He still had a problem where his eyes would spasm when shifting focus from near to far. A more local Dr addressed that issue with eye exercises. although there were improvements, it is not perfect, even now. It was well worth it-it made Mike much less distracted and more relaxed.kcboone <kcboonecomcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi,

Just wanted to know if anyone has done visual therapy with their child? If so, what did it entail, why did you initially seek a visual therapist, and what was the outcome?

Any information would be appreciated. Thank you.

Karmen

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Thank you ,

We do see a DAN dr. I am not opposed to chelation (or anything else that may help my daughter), and I will try it with her when our DAN suggests we start. I'm hoping that'll be soon. We have finally gotten an appt. and treatment time for private OT with an excellent rehab. facility close to where we live. We had been on the waiting list since March. I am excited to start this because many of the OT's at this facility have extensive training in SID and sensory diets.

Karmen

Re: OT - Visual Therapy

Don't let me read too much into a description that is only text, Karmen: If this was my daughter I would try chelation, when it fitted in with everything else, just to see how the SID might fade away, or not. There are several ways of chelating so it is often possible to find one that works out.I hope that comment is useful to someone, even if it doesn't apply to your daughter.kcboone wrote:>> Hi ,> > Hypersensitive vision was mentioned when my daughter was being tested > for Sensory Integration Dysfunction. It was suggested that her vision > was affected by SID, and that she may be seeing things/colors more > acutely than most. I had explained to the therapist that my > daughter's onset of an anxiety attack always starts with her visually > looking at something, then trying to turn away from it, but still > watching it from the corner of her eye. After she becomes this > fixated on the object that is 'triggering' her anxiety attack, she > either slowly gets up, backing away from it and shaking or gets up, > turns around and runs with all her might SCREAMING at the top of her > lungs. She will not go back into the room where the object is until > the object is gone, and from that point on she is very antsy, > sometimes for days afterwards, whenever entering that room. At times > she has refused to re-enter a room and will do anyone physical harm > who tries to get her to go back. Another reason that I too think her > vision is the culprit is the items that she is MOST fearful of, the > latest being grocery store circulars. She cannot look at them at > all. She just sees it on the table and begins to scream 'PUT IT IN > THE TRASH!, PUT IT IN THE TRASH! MOMMY WILL TAKE IT AWAY' Then she > starts screaming words that don't make any sense. She has also done > this with calendars and a small picture hanging in my dining room > which only has an apple, a jar, and a dish in the picture. Nothing > upsetting, just everyday items. So I am interested in vision therapy > to see if it will help her. I'm curious about the prism glasses. > What do they do? How are they suppose to help?> > Karmen

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Check out Dr Melvin Kaplan www.autisticvision.com I bet, nobody will have to hold your daughter for exam. He has a unique way. He helped my child and several other children I know. Mohinder Choprakcboone wrote: Thanks Sheri, I have been given a very good recommendation. An optometrist in

my county who specializes in Vision Therapy. He is very well known. My concern is that my daughter who MAY have hypersensitive vision has extreme anxiety challenges, and drs. offices of any kind are a great source of distress for her. Without a physician even touching her it oftentimes takes several people to hold her down. She cannot see any medical instruments whatsoever, or she begins to have exhausting behavior which does not subside until we are walking out of the facility door. My questions for this dr. prior to the appt., should I make one, would be: how would you handle an extremely anxious autistic 5 yr. old child? Do you feel that vision therapy would help with her hypersensitve vision which may be causing some of her distress? Can anything be achieved without the use of medical instruments? My daughter has seen an

opthamologist who needed 4 staff members to help in the exam. At no time was my daughter letting up with her behavior. She is that frightened. She hates the light probe the most, which is one of the most widely used instrument in any medical genre. I'm sure the optometrist would need to get very close to her to look into her eyes. This won't be happening with my daughter unless there are 3 other people on hand to hold her down. And if that happens she also will not be cooperative with questions even if she understands them. When she gets anxious she starts spouting out words that make no sense and her anxieties escalate to where she has no comprehension whatsoever. So I am dealing with a sensitive situation and wondering if the vision therapy would even work due to her anxieties. Thank you again for responding. And yes, I'd love

to get more details privately. Karmen Re: OT - Visual Therapy Hi Karmen- We have done visual therapy with both my boys (11yo PDD-NOS &

9yo ASD). They both had specific visual symptoms that were both targeted and relieved by the vision therapy. We saw an excellent developmental optometrist with years of experience and a wonderfully trained VT staff. My 11 yo is done with his course of VT but my 9 yo is still going for 2 sessions per week. Feel free to email me directly off-post if you would like more details or have any other questions. I am actually an optometrist myself, but am not specifically trained in VT. If you are considering VT, I would definitely recommend you find a developmental optometrist or someone very experienced in it. Sheri Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL.com.

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