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I am glad you can see it now for what it was. I'm glad you are not

like that so it isn't being passed on.

In New York around the turn of the century there was a famous miser,

I think her last name was Green, who didn't take her son to the

doctor when he broke his leg. He walked with a limp for the rest of

his life. His mother was a millionaire from being a miser.

Cyndy

--- giacomo wrote:

> My nada was also very good about getting us to the dentist and she

> took me

> to an allergist once a week for shots. But thinking back (and I do

> hate to

> see EVERYTHING as negative) I wonder if there wasn't also some

> sadism. For

> example, until recently I have rarely gone to a dentist as an adult

> because

> the dentist that we went to as a child did not use adequate

> novocaine. In

> fact sometime he would drill without using it at all. As a result,

> trips to

> the dentist were excruciating. My mother was/is an infamous

> penny-pincher,

> so I even wonder if she told the dentist to refrain from using much

> or any

> anesthesia because she was trying to save money. I recently has a

> root canal

> (due in large part to my aversion too dentists) and was surprised

> that my

> dentist kept me in greater comfort than most of my filling

> appointments as a

> kid.

>

> She was also famous for cornering doctors at parties and having us

> expose

> some ailment or another and asking his opinion.

>

> Anyway, about the sadism, I remember that once I had a loose tooth

> and my

> mother asked to see it. I actually saw what was coming and told her

> not to

> pull it out. Of course she immediately reached in and ripped it

> out.

>

> And, final story, when I was 16 I smacked my head on the radiator

> in our

> house--really opened up the back of my head. My mother drove me to

> the

> emergency room, but on the way we had to pick up my brother from

> preschool.

> Fair enough. But she went into the day care for what seemed like 20

> minutes.

> I was in the passenger's seat of the car holding a blood-soaked

> diaper to my

> head waiting for her to take me to the hospital. When she finally

> came out,

> I watched her at the entrance joking and chatting with someone.

> when she

> finally got me to the hospital they put in 24 stitches.

>

> OK--one more. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out that

> parents

> bring their sick kids food in bed. Whenever I was home sick, I

> would have to

> get up and make my own food. And eventually my mother would nag me

> enough

> that I would get up and start doing housework to get her off my

> back. When I

> was home with mono, it was actually a relief to go back to school.

>

> These are things that I have been ashamed of as petty grudges. But

> when I

> think about how I am as a parent, I do see a sadism behind them. I

> would

> have called the daycare and made arrangements and gotten my kid to

> the

> hospital to make sure that he was taken care of quickly--did he

> have a

> concussion? (I did.)

>

> giacomo

>

>

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" But thinking back (and I do hate to see EVERYTHING as negative) I

wonder if there wasn't also some sadism. "

I grew up angry with the medical profession for what I perceived as

the odd and ineffectual care that I often received. But now I'm

not sure where the blame really fell. I don't know what was due

to my mother and what was due to the doctors. I never questioned

whether the pediatrician really told her that I had an allergy to the

sun or not. Now I wonder if it was something she made up. I do know

that the pediatrician told her I would die if I became a vegetarian,

because I heard him say it.

> My nada was also very good about getting us to the dentist and she

took me

> to an allergist once a week for shots. But thinking back (and I do

hate to

> see EVERYTHING as negative) I wonder if there wasn't also some

sadism. For

> example, until recently I have rarely gone to a dentist as an adult

because

> the dentist that we went to as a child did not use adequate

novocaine. In

> fact sometime he would drill without using it at all. As a result,

trips to

> the dentist were excruciating. My mother was/is an infamous penny-

pincher,

> so I even wonder if she told the dentist to refrain from using much

or any

> anesthesia because she was trying to save money. I recently has a

root canal

> (due in large part to my aversion too dentists) and was surprised

that my

> dentist kept me in greater comfort than most of my filling

appointments as a

> kid.

>

> She was also famous for cornering doctors at parties and having us

expose

> some ailment or another and asking his opinion.

>

> Anyway, about the sadism, I remember that once I had a loose tooth

and my

> mother asked to see it. I actually saw what was coming and told her

not to

> pull it out. Of course she immediately reached in and ripped it

out.

>

> And, final story, when I was 16 I smacked my head on the radiator

in our

> house--really opened up the back of my head. My mother drove me to

the

> emergency room, but on the way we had to pick up my brother from

preschool.

> Fair enough. But she went into the day care for what seemed like 20

minutes.

> I was in the passenger's seat of the car holding a blood-soaked

diaper to my

> head waiting for her to take me to the hospital. When she finally

came out,

> I watched her at the entrance joking and chatting with someone.

when she

> finally got me to the hospital they put in 24 stitches.

>

> OK--one more. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out that

parents

> bring their sick kids food in bed. Whenever I was home sick, I

would have to

> get up and make my own food. And eventually my mother would nag me

enough

> that I would get up and start doing housework to get her off my

back. When I

> was home with mono, it was actually a relief to go back to school.

>

> These are things that I have been ashamed of as petty grudges. But

when I

> think about how I am as a parent, I do see a sadism behind them. I

would

> have called the daycare and made arrangements and gotten my kid to

the

> hospital to make sure that he was taken care of quickly--did he

have a

> concussion? (I did.)

>

> giacomo

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My God! Now that is abuse. You are not crazy in your confusion, she

was neglecting you, and possibly revelling in the attention it

garnered on her. Oh, poor nada, you and your sickly children. But not

comforting a sick child? Making you get up and do housework? (I am

swearing at the screen now, but I won't type what I'm saying!)

See, there was no one there to see what a wonderful comforting mother

she could be, so she didn't bother. I wonder if someone dropped by

how quickly she'd get you some soup? Maybe I'm off base here, but

this is such an outrage, I'm afraid I may not be making much sense.

Don't feel bad about seeing things as negative when they are! Trust

your gut. The body never lies.

Hugs,

Rosemary

> My nada was also very good about getting us to the dentist and she

took me

> to an allergist once a week for shots. But thinking back (and I do

hate to

> see EVERYTHING as negative) I wonder if there wasn't also some

sadism. For

> example, until recently I have rarely gone to a dentist as an adult

because

> the dentist that we went to as a child did not use adequate

novocaine. In

> fact sometime he would drill without using it at all. As a result,

trips to

> the dentist were excruciating. My mother was/is an infamous penny-

pincher,

> so I even wonder if she told the dentist to refrain from using much

or any

> anesthesia because she was trying to save money. I recently has a

root canal

> (due in large part to my aversion too dentists) and was surprised

that my

> dentist kept me in greater comfort than most of my filling

appointments as a

> kid.

>

> She was also famous for cornering doctors at parties and having us

expose

> some ailment or another and asking his opinion.

>

> Anyway, about the sadism, I remember that once I had a loose tooth

and my

> mother asked to see it. I actually saw what was coming and told her

not to

> pull it out. Of course she immediately reached in and ripped it

out.

>

> And, final story, when I was 16 I smacked my head on the radiator

in our

> house--really opened up the back of my head. My mother drove me to

the

> emergency room, but on the way we had to pick up my brother from

preschool.

> Fair enough. But she went into the day care for what seemed like 20

minutes.

> I was in the passenger's seat of the car holding a blood-soaked

diaper to my

> head waiting for her to take me to the hospital. When she finally

came out,

> I watched her at the entrance joking and chatting with someone.

when she

> finally got me to the hospital they put in 24 stitches.

>

> OK--one more. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out that

parents

> bring their sick kids food in bed. Whenever I was home sick, I

would have to

> get up and make my own food. And eventually my mother would nag me

enough

> that I would get up and start doing housework to get her off my

back. When I

> was home with mono, it was actually a relief to go back to school.

>

> These are things that I have been ashamed of as petty grudges. But

when I

> think about how I am as a parent, I do see a sadism behind them. I

would

> have called the daycare and made arrangements and gotten my kid to

the

> hospital to make sure that he was taken care of quickly--did he

have a

> concussion? (I did.)

>

> giacomo

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My God! Now that is abuse. You are not crazy in your confusion, she

was neglecting you, and possibly revelling in the attention it

garnered on her. Oh, poor nada, you and your sickly children. But not

comforting a sick child? Making you get up and do housework? (I am

swearing at the screen now, but I won't type what I'm saying!)

See, there was no one there to see what a wonderful comforting mother

she could be, so she didn't bother. I wonder if someone dropped by

how quickly she'd get you some soup? Maybe I'm off base here, but

this is such an outrage, I'm afraid I may not be making much sense.

Don't feel bad about seeing things as negative when they are! Trust

your gut. The body never lies.

Hugs,

Rosemary

> My nada was also very good about getting us to the dentist and she

took me

> to an allergist once a week for shots. But thinking back (and I do

hate to

> see EVERYTHING as negative) I wonder if there wasn't also some

sadism. For

> example, until recently I have rarely gone to a dentist as an adult

because

> the dentist that we went to as a child did not use adequate

novocaine. In

> fact sometime he would drill without using it at all. As a result,

trips to

> the dentist were excruciating. My mother was/is an infamous penny-

pincher,

> so I even wonder if she told the dentist to refrain from using much

or any

> anesthesia because she was trying to save money. I recently has a

root canal

> (due in large part to my aversion too dentists) and was surprised

that my

> dentist kept me in greater comfort than most of my filling

appointments as a

> kid.

>

> She was also famous for cornering doctors at parties and having us

expose

> some ailment or another and asking his opinion.

>

> Anyway, about the sadism, I remember that once I had a loose tooth

and my

> mother asked to see it. I actually saw what was coming and told her

not to

> pull it out. Of course she immediately reached in and ripped it

out.

>

> And, final story, when I was 16 I smacked my head on the radiator

in our

> house--really opened up the back of my head. My mother drove me to

the

> emergency room, but on the way we had to pick up my brother from

preschool.

> Fair enough. But she went into the day care for what seemed like 20

minutes.

> I was in the passenger's seat of the car holding a blood-soaked

diaper to my

> head waiting for her to take me to the hospital. When she finally

came out,

> I watched her at the entrance joking and chatting with someone.

when she

> finally got me to the hospital they put in 24 stitches.

>

> OK--one more. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out that

parents

> bring their sick kids food in bed. Whenever I was home sick, I

would have to

> get up and make my own food. And eventually my mother would nag me

enough

> that I would get up and start doing housework to get her off my

back. When I

> was home with mono, it was actually a relief to go back to school.

>

> These are things that I have been ashamed of as petty grudges. But

when I

> think about how I am as a parent, I do see a sadism behind them. I

would

> have called the daycare and made arrangements and gotten my kid to

the

> hospital to make sure that he was taken care of quickly--did he

have a

> concussion? (I did.)

>

> giacomo

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My God! Now that is abuse. You are not crazy in your confusion, she

was neglecting you, and possibly revelling in the attention it

garnered on her. Oh, poor nada, you and your sickly children. But not

comforting a sick child? Making you get up and do housework? (I am

swearing at the screen now, but I won't type what I'm saying!)

See, there was no one there to see what a wonderful comforting mother

she could be, so she didn't bother. I wonder if someone dropped by

how quickly she'd get you some soup? Maybe I'm off base here, but

this is such an outrage, I'm afraid I may not be making much sense.

Don't feel bad about seeing things as negative when they are! Trust

your gut. The body never lies.

Hugs,

Rosemary

> My nada was also very good about getting us to the dentist and she

took me

> to an allergist once a week for shots. But thinking back (and I do

hate to

> see EVERYTHING as negative) I wonder if there wasn't also some

sadism. For

> example, until recently I have rarely gone to a dentist as an adult

because

> the dentist that we went to as a child did not use adequate

novocaine. In

> fact sometime he would drill without using it at all. As a result,

trips to

> the dentist were excruciating. My mother was/is an infamous penny-

pincher,

> so I even wonder if she told the dentist to refrain from using much

or any

> anesthesia because she was trying to save money. I recently has a

root canal

> (due in large part to my aversion too dentists) and was surprised

that my

> dentist kept me in greater comfort than most of my filling

appointments as a

> kid.

>

> She was also famous for cornering doctors at parties and having us

expose

> some ailment or another and asking his opinion.

>

> Anyway, about the sadism, I remember that once I had a loose tooth

and my

> mother asked to see it. I actually saw what was coming and told her

not to

> pull it out. Of course she immediately reached in and ripped it

out.

>

> And, final story, when I was 16 I smacked my head on the radiator

in our

> house--really opened up the back of my head. My mother drove me to

the

> emergency room, but on the way we had to pick up my brother from

preschool.

> Fair enough. But she went into the day care for what seemed like 20

minutes.

> I was in the passenger's seat of the car holding a blood-soaked

diaper to my

> head waiting for her to take me to the hospital. When she finally

came out,

> I watched her at the entrance joking and chatting with someone.

when she

> finally got me to the hospital they put in 24 stitches.

>

> OK--one more. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out that

parents

> bring their sick kids food in bed. Whenever I was home sick, I

would have to

> get up and make my own food. And eventually my mother would nag me

enough

> that I would get up and start doing housework to get her off my

back. When I

> was home with mono, it was actually a relief to go back to school.

>

> These are things that I have been ashamed of as petty grudges. But

when I

> think about how I am as a parent, I do see a sadism behind them. I

would

> have called the daycare and made arrangements and gotten my kid to

the

> hospital to make sure that he was taken care of quickly--did he

have a

> concussion? (I did.)

>

> giacomo

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> My God! Now that is abuse.

A few years ago, our church was rocked to its foundations by a scandal

involving the choirmaster and his long-term sexual abuse of choirboys. Boys

from age 6 to age 18 were victims, over a period of many years.

The GOOD part of this is that we all learned so very much about abuse, in

all its forms, and a great number of women discovered that they had been the

victims of childhood abuse. Sexual, physical, and/or emotional. We had just

never identified all those 'things' going on as abuse. What a revelation.

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> My God! Now that is abuse.

A few years ago, our church was rocked to its foundations by a scandal

involving the choirmaster and his long-term sexual abuse of choirboys. Boys

from age 6 to age 18 were victims, over a period of many years.

The GOOD part of this is that we all learned so very much about abuse, in

all its forms, and a great number of women discovered that they had been the

victims of childhood abuse. Sexual, physical, and/or emotional. We had just

never identified all those 'things' going on as abuse. What a revelation.

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My Mom was always on good behavior in front of the neighbors. Or on

the phone. She would brag about us. Even me. I think she was

defending her own ego-image by bragging. And in private she was

expressing her own lack of self-esteem by raging. Kind of

narcissistic. Kind of addictive. It doesn't hurt if no one sees it.

She behaved better if her mother was visiting. And she behaved better

if my father was home than if he wasn't. Stress brings out the weak

points in a person. She wasn't meant to have four kids; she sure

didn't ask for them. She could have skipped me, for sure. We both

would have been happier!

Cyndy

--- rpicado@... wrote:

> My God! Now that is abuse. You are not crazy in your confusion, she

>

> was neglecting you, and possibly revelling in the attention it

> garnered on her. Oh, poor nada, you and your sickly children. But

> not

> comforting a sick child? Making you get up and do housework? (I am

> swearing at the screen now, but I won't type what I'm saying!)

>

> See, there was no one there to see what a wonderful comforting

> mother

> she could be, so she didn't bother. I wonder if someone dropped by

> how quickly she'd get you some soup? Maybe I'm off base here, but

> this is such an outrage, I'm afraid I may not be making much sense.

>

> Don't feel bad about seeing things as negative when they are! Trust

>

> your gut. The body never lies.

>

> Hugs,

> Rosemary

>

>

>

> > My nada was also very good about getting us to the dentist and

> she

> took me

> > to an allergist once a week for shots. But thinking back (and I

> do

> hate to

> > see EVERYTHING as negative) I wonder if there wasn't also some

> sadism. For

> > example, until recently I have rarely gone to a dentist as an

> adult

> because

> > the dentist that we went to as a child did not use adequate

> novocaine. In

> > fact sometime he would drill without using it at all. As a

> result,

> trips to

> > the dentist were excruciating. My mother was/is an infamous

> penny-

> pincher,

> > so I even wonder if she told the dentist to refrain from using

> much

> or any

> > anesthesia because she was trying to save money. I recently has a

>

> root canal

> > (due in large part to my aversion too dentists) and was surprised

>

> that my

> > dentist kept me in greater comfort than most of my filling

> appointments as a

> > kid.

> >

> > She was also famous for cornering doctors at parties and having

> us

> expose

> > some ailment or another and asking his opinion.

> >

> > Anyway, about the sadism, I remember that once I had a loose

> tooth

> and my

> > mother asked to see it. I actually saw what was coming and told

> her

> not to

> > pull it out. Of course she immediately reached in and ripped it

> out.

> >

> > And, final story, when I was 16 I smacked my head on the radiator

>

> in our

> > house--really opened up the back of my head. My mother drove me

> to

> the

> > emergency room, but on the way we had to pick up my brother from

> preschool.

> > Fair enough. But she went into the day care for what seemed like

> 20

> minutes.

> > I was in the passenger's seat of the car holding a blood-soaked

> diaper to my

> > head waiting for her to take me to the hospital. When she finally

>

> came out,

> > I watched her at the entrance joking and chatting with someone.

> when she

> > finally got me to the hospital they put in 24 stitches.

> >

> > OK--one more. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out

> that

> parents

> > bring their sick kids food in bed. Whenever I was home sick, I

> would have to

> > get up and make my own food. And eventually my mother would nag

> me

> enough

> > that I would get up and start doing housework to get her off my

> back. When I

> > was home with mono, it was actually a relief to go back to

> school.

> >

> > These are things that I have been ashamed of as petty grudges.

> But

> when I

> > think about how I am as a parent, I do see a sadism behind them.

> I

> would

> > have called the daycare and made arrangements and gotten my kid

> to

> the

> > hospital to make sure that he was taken care of quickly--did he

> have a

> > concussion? (I did.)

> >

> > giacomo

>

>

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My Mom was always on good behavior in front of the neighbors. Or on

the phone. She would brag about us. Even me. I think she was

defending her own ego-image by bragging. And in private she was

expressing her own lack of self-esteem by raging. Kind of

narcissistic. Kind of addictive. It doesn't hurt if no one sees it.

She behaved better if her mother was visiting. And she behaved better

if my father was home than if he wasn't. Stress brings out the weak

points in a person. She wasn't meant to have four kids; she sure

didn't ask for them. She could have skipped me, for sure. We both

would have been happier!

Cyndy

--- rpicado@... wrote:

> My God! Now that is abuse. You are not crazy in your confusion, she

>

> was neglecting you, and possibly revelling in the attention it

> garnered on her. Oh, poor nada, you and your sickly children. But

> not

> comforting a sick child? Making you get up and do housework? (I am

> swearing at the screen now, but I won't type what I'm saying!)

>

> See, there was no one there to see what a wonderful comforting

> mother

> she could be, so she didn't bother. I wonder if someone dropped by

> how quickly she'd get you some soup? Maybe I'm off base here, but

> this is such an outrage, I'm afraid I may not be making much sense.

>

> Don't feel bad about seeing things as negative when they are! Trust

>

> your gut. The body never lies.

>

> Hugs,

> Rosemary

>

>

>

> > My nada was also very good about getting us to the dentist and

> she

> took me

> > to an allergist once a week for shots. But thinking back (and I

> do

> hate to

> > see EVERYTHING as negative) I wonder if there wasn't also some

> sadism. For

> > example, until recently I have rarely gone to a dentist as an

> adult

> because

> > the dentist that we went to as a child did not use adequate

> novocaine. In

> > fact sometime he would drill without using it at all. As a

> result,

> trips to

> > the dentist were excruciating. My mother was/is an infamous

> penny-

> pincher,

> > so I even wonder if she told the dentist to refrain from using

> much

> or any

> > anesthesia because she was trying to save money. I recently has a

>

> root canal

> > (due in large part to my aversion too dentists) and was surprised

>

> that my

> > dentist kept me in greater comfort than most of my filling

> appointments as a

> > kid.

> >

> > She was also famous for cornering doctors at parties and having

> us

> expose

> > some ailment or another and asking his opinion.

> >

> > Anyway, about the sadism, I remember that once I had a loose

> tooth

> and my

> > mother asked to see it. I actually saw what was coming and told

> her

> not to

> > pull it out. Of course she immediately reached in and ripped it

> out.

> >

> > And, final story, when I was 16 I smacked my head on the radiator

>

> in our

> > house--really opened up the back of my head. My mother drove me

> to

> the

> > emergency room, but on the way we had to pick up my brother from

> preschool.

> > Fair enough. But she went into the day care for what seemed like

> 20

> minutes.

> > I was in the passenger's seat of the car holding a blood-soaked

> diaper to my

> > head waiting for her to take me to the hospital. When she finally

>

> came out,

> > I watched her at the entrance joking and chatting with someone.

> when she

> > finally got me to the hospital they put in 24 stitches.

> >

> > OK--one more. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out

> that

> parents

> > bring their sick kids food in bed. Whenever I was home sick, I

> would have to

> > get up and make my own food. And eventually my mother would nag

> me

> enough

> > that I would get up and start doing housework to get her off my

> back. When I

> > was home with mono, it was actually a relief to go back to

> school.

> >

> > These are things that I have been ashamed of as petty grudges.

> But

> when I

> > think about how I am as a parent, I do see a sadism behind them.

> I

> would

> > have called the daycare and made arrangements and gotten my kid

> to

> the

> > hospital to make sure that he was taken care of quickly--did he

> have a

> > concussion? (I did.)

> >

> > giacomo

>

>

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Wonder if something like this would work?

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Ideas for the

office: Ipod with headphones or portable dvd player with headphones,

sunglasses to lessen the bright lights. We have changed to an office that is

much more calm and relaxed and quiet and laid back (does not accept medicaid)

rather than the other pediatric office which was an open bay and even in the

quiet room was a lot of hustle and bustle.

Ideas for

brushing teeth at home: We sing his favorite songs (Happy birthday,

veggietales or spongebob theme songs) while we are brushing. It is more fun

and he knows when brushing is done when the song is done. Maybe a timer might

also work so that he can see when brushing will be over. We stand behind him

while he faces the mirror and brush his teeth for him and let him hold on to

" help. " We use the long plastic Reach flosser with the disposable

heads and that seems to be the easiest way to do it.

Other than

that, maybe some nitrous oxide would help out, or Versed in the chair. We

have used my restraining him by hugging, but at a certain point he was

getting too big for me to hold him and I was tired of being the bad guy. I

refused the papoose and changed dentists.

:)

C

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What a wonderful program! That dentist is great!etteSubject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] DentistTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 10:04 PM

Wonder if something like this would work? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=artQFqd6osQ

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Ideas for the

office: Ipod with headphones or portable dvd player with headphones,

sunglasses to lessen the bright lights. We have changed to an office that is

much more calm and relaxed and quiet and laid back (does not accept medicaid)

rather than the other pediatric office which was an open bay and even in the

quiet room was a lot of hustle and bustle.

Ideas for

brushing teeth at home: We sing his favorite songs (Happy birthday,

veggietales or spongebob theme songs) while we are brushing. It is more fun

and he knows when brushing is done when the song is done. Maybe a timer might

also work so that he can see when brushing will be over. We stand behind him

while he faces the mirror and brush his teeth for him and let him hold on to

"help." We use the long plastic Reach flosser with the disposable

heads and that seems to be the easiest way to do it.

Other than

that, maybe some nitrous oxide would help out, or Versed in the chair. We

have used my restraining him by hugging, but at a certain point he was

getting too big for me to hold him and I was tired of being the bad guy. I

refused the papoose and changed dentists.

:)

C

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Thanks everyone for the advice.

I guess I should have prefaced it with: this is our 3rd pediatric special needs

dentist. She does take time with my son (13yr)each time to see if he will go

into the " quiet " room. They play games, sing, use sunglasses, have tv and by the

chair some type of video game set-up. When finished, a token for a special gum

machine toy.All previous dentists outright said he would be papoosed no matter

what,even with some time of head gear, no trial period each time.

As for brushing teeth, he will only touch the toothbrush but not brush teeth

(regular or batt operated). We do play games with toothbrushes and art.Yes we do

singing songs, even named areas of his mouth with rooms, (hallway, DW rm,

Arthur's rm etc) so I can tell Arthur and DW stories.We are working with a

special feeding consultant, who has been very helpful. She also travels the

country like Talk Tools called Marsha Klein at Mealtime Connections.

Thanks Kathy for the you tube video. I am going to make an appt to talk to the

dentist and see if we can put the you tube video into action. Maybe at the very

end of the business hrs when they are cleaning up a couple of days of week until

next dentist visit in July.

Janet H

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That is a great idea to do it after hours, Janet..and I am

going to talk to the people at our local autism resource center to see what

they are doing here..this would be an excellent program to get started in our

area as well (as far as I know, we don’t have anything like it)

KathyR

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Thanks everyone for the advice.

I guess I should have prefaced it with: this is our 3rd pediatric special needs

dentist. She does take time with my son (13yr)each time to see if he will go

into the " quiet " room. They play games, sing, use sunglasses, have tv

and by the chair some type of video game set-up. When finished, a token for a

special gum machine toy.All previous dentists outright said he would be

papoosed no matter what,even with some time of head gear, no trial period each

time.

As for brushing teeth, he will only touch the toothbrush but not brush teeth

(regular or batt operated). We do play games with toothbrushes and art.Yes we

do singing songs, even named areas of his mouth with rooms, (hallway, DW rm,

Arthur's rm etc) so I can tell Arthur and DW stories.We are working with a

special feeding consultant, who has been very helpful. She also travels the

country like Talk Tools called Marsha Klein at Mealtime Connections.

Thanks Kathy for the you tube video. I am going to make an appt to talk to the

dentist and see if we can put the you tube video into action. Maybe at the very

end of the business hrs when they are cleaning up a couple of days of week

until next dentist visit in July.

Janet H

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Janet-

I wish I could cure my son of his oral defensiveness too! Thanks for letting me

know that there are others out there with oral defensive kids. Nate has had the

Dentist check his teeth twice. I was able to restrain him. He was able to get

in and check but forget trying to clean them. For now I can hogtie him to brush

his teeth because he is still small (14kg).

Thanks for sharing your experience. Keep me posted on how the feeding team

appointment go for your son. Nate is going to start back up with the local

feeding Clinic at the end of May.

Sherry

>

> Thanks everyone for the advice.

>

> I guess I should have prefaced it with: this is our 3rd pediatric special

needs dentist. She does take time with my son (13yr)each time to see if he will

go into the " quiet " room. They play games, sing, use sunglasses, have tv and by

the chair some type of video game set-up. When finished, a token for a special

gum machine toy.All previous dentists outright said he would be papoosed no

matter what,even with some time of head gear, no trial period each time.

>

> As for brushing teeth, he will only touch the toothbrush but not brush teeth

(regular or batt operated). We do play games with toothbrushes and art.Yes we do

singing songs, even named areas of his mouth with rooms, (hallway, DW rm,

Arthur's rm etc) so I can tell Arthur and DW stories.We are working with a

special feeding consultant, who has been very helpful. She also travels the

country like Talk Tools called Marsha Klein at Mealtime Connections.

>

> Thanks Kathy for the you tube video. I am going to make an appt to talk to the

dentist and see if we can put the you tube video into action. Maybe at the very

end of the business hrs when they are cleaning up a couple of days of week until

next dentist visit in July.

>

> Janet H

>

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