you're welcome, just a thought for folks who may have lost power/water.

[Guest guest]

one of THE greatest public health dangers after the disruption of the

infrastructure is WATER and LATRINES not burring the dead -- after the Hutu-Tusi

Genocide the UN went in and REALLY looked at that the public health problems

were -- everyone had thought that it was the corpses.  So the FIRST priority

should be to burry/burn the dead. 

NOT SO!

Seems they are WAY down the list -- set up a collection area, yes. But FIRST

preserve drinking water then potable water - then make a safe latrine-- then,

safeguard your existing food -- so far down the list because most food takes

water to prepare so safe food with dirty water = no food.  (which people will

eat any way and water which they will drink anyway,   Then things like a safe

place for infants to sleep, and safe waste disposal, and under that category

come getting rid of the dead in such a fashion that 1) they can be retrieved and

2) they can be identified -- and the hard part 3) in such a way that it is in

keeping with tribal custom -- which brings you back to 2 - so you can disintered

them and then re-intered them according the the cultural requirements of the

people involved. Part of 1, the easy retrieval goes record keeping - so you have

photographic evidence both with the body and seperate, where found, how died,

how old, male-female,

what they were wearing, and if they have ID papers a copy of the ID and its

numbers, and the data it contains PLUS any eye-witness's who say that's paul and

he lives on the old Ranch, the Star Circle Star -- all of that goes into

plastic screw cap water-tight containers which are buried with the person, and

the name and LOGO of the organization taking the data -- so if you dug them up -

you will have a good idea from what's there and if it matches the master

record. 

For so long we have looked at the human body as 'dirty' and it's hung around for

so long we no longer quetion it. After the Genocides in Africa, it was found

that the ground water and drinking water was either poisoned/contaminated

deliberately, or by runoff from garbage dumps and latrine areas that now the

FIRST thing you do is SECURE the safe water -- make sure that nothing more gets

into the water -- and that generally means moving stuff around, and 'cleaning'

the well-head if that's what it is - THEN you localize infection - feces being

the number one contaminant.  Urine is he ONLY sterile substance that comes out

of your body, so you don't worry about urine, but you do worry about what grows

in a nutrient rich environment- right there you STOP the two main causes of

future disease right in it's tracks, then you start on sepeate housing,

(depending on where you are) Vacinations, preventitie innoculations -- and at

the same time you systimatically

burry the bodies, if a mass grave, lay them out in obvious rows and obvious

layers, not tossed in like you often picture -- think of it as a compressed

grave yard with rows and columns that intersect - row C column 12  -- third

person down, 12th person over in layer 1 (or  or 3 -- ) and so when you go

looking you can find it -- use 'mud tracks' or 'sand-tracks' or corrigated roofs

- try not to use what can be used to build a house) - something metal that will

be picked up by a hand held 'gold finder' --  so you have both a GPS location

and a general location where you can find the grave by just sweeping the ground

with common instruments.

So right up near the top is PRESERVATION OF WATER -- (which gives you water to

drink, water to cook with, water to keep your body clean, etc -- and of course -

a communal latrine so you localize waste and keep it from flowing into drinkable

water.

Also with your own house-- fill the tubs etc then TURN YOUR WATER OFF - while we

put in a 'drain' just up from the flow of water to the house so we can turn off

the water to the house, and then turn on the drian and drain water from the

meter to our house line, so we can flush out 'dirty' water that may be in the

mains -- most people don't - so remember INSIDE your toilet tank is safe clean

water, ditto your tub if you kept it clean, if not, clorox will clean most of it

-- then turn off the water to your house -- and when it's 'safe' to turn wter

back on, use both the highest and lowest point of water in your house -- usally

a shower and your hot water heater drain and after turning off your hot water

heater - run them both for a good half hour to hour to be sure -- then start low

and SLOWLY turn he water off starting low with your hot water tank drain - and

turn the faucets s-l-o-w-l-y - this prevents what firefighters call 'water

hammer' -- turning off

flowing water really fast is like having a metal plate drop PLOP right in front

of the flow water, and it hits it like a hammer -- and it can break a pipe, or

cause old metal pipes to start leaking -- the LAST think you want to happen

after a 'disaster'.

And words to remember VERY WELL AND NEVER FORGET - when Amundsen and were

racing to the South Pole, a reporter wished him " Good luck on your adventure! " -

at which he stopped dead in his tracks and said: I hope not! an 'Adventure is

when an expedition goes wrong! " -  , as we all know had an adventure,

Amundsen had an expedition!

So you are hopeing for a very good expedition but NEVER an 'adventure' - I think

my only point was that the bottle of Clorox you use for cleaning water for

sprouts in a foreign nation can also be used in a FAR more practical way -- to

keep you and your family from becoming ill in a bacterial, fungal, viral, moldy

jungle that erupts when our infrastructure goes even a little bit haywire

(caused by a piece of bailing wire getting suck in the gears of the first balers

- causing them to come to a grinding halt - thus when things don't work they are

'haywire' .  A lot of people don't make the connection until it's pointed out

to them in one non-standard situation,and suddenly they see a multitude of

situations where it might work.

but Clorox is NOT a personal disinfectant - it's caustic (as anyone who's had it

eat a hole through their Jeans knows) so PLEASE keep it SAFE AND OUT OF THE

REACH OF CHILDREN OF ALL AGES (YES even the 45 year old 'children')   and use

it ONLY in diluted form---!!!!!!! ---

Dream Well. Travel Well. May you Walk Your Path in Beauty.

" Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " Carl Sagan.

Subject: Re: a tiny bottle and a small pack of non-iodized

salt. . . .

To: sproutpeople

Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 5:35 PM

 

I think you are absolutely FASCINATING, with all the information you

provide.

thanks much

Melody

P.S. I'll never look at Clorox the same way again. lol