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SNT does tend to cause hyperactivity in some kids. I recently heard this

tended to be the kids who have difficulty with phenols but don't know alot

about that. My son got more hyper on SNT and had more night wakenings when

we tried it years ago.

Every child is different but I can share what has helped my son with

hyperactivity and sleeping -- extra calcium (he takes Vitaline Cal-Mag

Aspartate); liquid magnesium (Allergy Research Group or Cardiovascular

Research Group's magnesium chloride) and DMAE (Source Natural's brand). The

DMAE is for focus and hyperactivity only. It is a fish-based precurser to

acetylcholine which is defficient in some hyper kids. If you're defficient

in this, you either get hyper or very lethargic. Some call DMAE the natural

Ritalin because it does have a remarkable effect on some hyper kids without

the side effects of Ritalin.

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In a message dated 3/8/03 2:44:40 AM Central Standard Time, autism-aspergers writes:

, echolalia is when the child repeats what he hears rather than answering the question, I believe.

Hi., Ohhh yeah, that is right Donna, It is repeating back , sorta mimicing what they have heard and not truly answering a question. Yup.

Also, Donna , I saw your note on the suuplements someone mentioned. I do know that they can help quite a bit for some, as can a good diet and exercise, but I havent yet met anyone who has had their child's symotoms cured or lessened drastically by supplements. But I do know that many of them do work in some respects for many people. That is good! :_)

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Is this echolalia pervasive (100% of the time) or can it be occasional? The reason i ask is because my son repeats me something chronic but in a silly voice and i thought he was just taking the mickey out of me!! He has even started repeating people from the telly so watching TV with him now proves very difficult. He always repeats in the silly voice though.

Because Adam is so high funtioning it is hard to know what is AS and what is him being funny!!

Thanks

Luv Suexxx

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In a message dated 3/8/03 2:44:40 AM Central Standard Time, autism-aspergers writes:

, echolalia is when the child repeats what he hears rather than answering the question, I believe. Hi., Ohhh yeah, that is right Donna, It is repeating back , sorta mimicing what they have heard and not truly answering a question. Yup. Also, Donna , I saw your note on the suuplements someone mentioned. I do know that they can help quite a bit for some, as can a good diet and exercise, but I havent yet met anyone who has had their child's symotoms cured or lessened drastically by supplements. But I do know that many of them do work in some respects for many people. That is good! :_) in IL

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Yes, echolalia can be occasional. And if he's echoing in a sing song voice all the time, he's probably stimming with it. One of our two autistic sons is very high-functioning and it can be difficult determining what is playing and what is autism, but in the end, it doesn’t usually matter. As long as your son is not using echolalia in place of real communication.

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In a message dated 3/8/03 2:44:40 AM Central Standard Time, autism-aspergers writes:

, echolalia is when the child repeats what he hears rather than answering the question, I believe. Hi., Ohhh yeah, that is right Donna, It is repeating back , sorta mimicing what they have heard and not truly answering a question. Yup. Also, Donna , I saw your note on the suuplements someone mentioned. I do know that they can help quite a bit for some, as can a good diet and exercise, but I havent yet met anyone who has had their child's symotoms cured or lessened drastically by supplements. But I do know that many of them do work in some respects for many people. That is good! :_) in IL

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Oh…by the way, it can also be times of stress that stimulate his echolalia.

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In a message dated 3/8/03 2:44:40 AM Central Standard Time, autism-aspergers writes:

, echolalia is when the child repeats what he hears rather than answering the question, I believe. Hi., Ohhh yeah, that is right Donna, It is repeating back , sorta mimicing what they have heard and not truly answering a question. Yup. Also, Donna , I saw your note on the suuplements someone mentioned. I do know that they can help quite a bit for some, as can a good diet and exercise, but I havent yet met anyone who has had their child's symotoms cured or lessened drastically by supplements. But I do know that many of them do work in some respects for many people. That is good! :_) in IL

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I have used echolalia to reach the autistic children I work with. I find if I repeat what they are saying in the same sing song voice they tend to listen. I can then change what I say in the same sing song voice & they will tend to repeat it. I start real small. Mostly sounds and single sylable words. The 2 year old was basically nonverbal when I started working with him 6 months ago, now he has a 100+ word vocabulary. He is even talking in 3+ word sentences.

Debi (the one in AZ)

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In a message dated 3/8/03 2:44:40 AM Central Standard Time, autism-aspergers writes:

, echolalia is when the child repeats what he hears rather than answering the question, I believe. Hi., Ohhh yeah, that is right Donna, It is repeating back , sorta mimicing what they have heard and not truly answering a question. Yup. Also, Donna , I saw your note on the suuplements someone mentioned. I do know that they can help quite a bit for some, as can a good diet and exercise, but I havent yet met anyone who has had their child's symotoms cured or lessened drastically by supplements. But I do know that many of them do work in some respects for many people. That is good! :_) in IL

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> Does anyone think it is worth an effort to mount some kind of

campaign to get ADAP to carry some of these additional meds?

>

I doubt it. With all the funding shortfalls since Bush became

President, most ADAP programs can't even afford to cover HIV meds.

Now that Bush and the Republicans have just won re-election, I'm not

very confident that ADAP will even survive four more years.

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Ive started giving my son some supplements(B6,B12,vitamins,glutathione,5htp, probiotics,cod livel oil and a natural chelator)and ive noticed some regression on my child,less eyes contact(keeps on looking at the seiling)lots of spinning and less interaction.

>>What is the natural chelator? Any of these supps might be causing the reaction.

Did you introduce them one at a time?Hang in there

Mandi x

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the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall i try firts?

>>>I believe Humet is supposed to be given on an empty tummy. I would stop everything and introduce them one at a time.

I would start with probiotics, then Humet, then CLO. What form is the B12 in?

B6 and Glutathione can often cause problems

Mandi x

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the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall i try firts?

>>>I believe Humet is supposed to be given on an empty tummy. I would stop everything and introduce them one at a time.

I would start with probiotics, then Humet, then CLO. What form is the B12 in?

B6 and Glutathione can often cause problems

Mandi x

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Hi,hes having them all togerther,every day.hes been taking them not long ago,would say,more or less,10 days?

P.S.Barby :)

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: neno@...Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:46:32 +0000Subject: Re: Supplements

Hi Barby(?) no it is not normal!!! did you start all of those supplements at the same time?? If not, when did you start seeing regression, can you link it to any of those in particular.my advice to stop all of those immediately! Go back to your doc, if you have one, and rewrite a plan. if you do restart any of those again, do it AWAY from other supplements and watch closely for reactions. Once you are absolutely certain that a supplement is well tolerated and that it does bring benefits, them move on towards the next one.natasa Dear ParentsIve started giving my son some supplements(B6,B12,vitamins,glutathione,5htp, probiotics,cod livel oil and a natural chelator)and ive noticed some regression on my child,less eyes contact(keeps on looking at the seiling)lots of spinning and less interaction.What could it be?Is it normal when you start taking supplements?Shall i stop?Hope to receive your reply and all wish you a merry xmas!

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Hi,Mandy

the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall i try firts?

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:57:42 -0500Subject: Re: Supplements

In a message dated 22/12/2008 10:25:23 GMT Standard Time, barbaracanepa86hotmail writes:

Ive started giving my son some supplements(B6,B12,vitamins,glutathione,5htp, probiotics,cod livel oil and a natural chelator)and ive noticed some regression on my child,less eyes contact(keeps on looking at the seiling)lots of spinning and less interaction.

>>What is the natural chelator? Any of these supps might be causing the reaction.

Did you introduce them one at a time?Hang in there

Mandi x

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Hi,Mandy

the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall i try firts?

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:57:42 -0500Subject: Re: Supplements

In a message dated 22/12/2008 10:25:23 GMT Standard Time, barbaracanepa86hotmail writes:

Ive started giving my son some supplements(B6,B12,vitamins,glutathione,5htp, probiotics,cod livel oil and a natural chelator)and ive noticed some regression on my child,less eyes contact(keeps on looking at the seiling)lots of spinning and less interaction.

>>What is the natural chelator? Any of these supps might be causing the reaction.

Did you introduce them one at a time?Hang in there

Mandi x

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Hi Mandy,

They are in form of capsules(nutricentre ones)

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:30:54 -0500Subject: Re: Supplements

In a message dated 22/12/2008 11:06:56 GMT Standard Time, barbaracanepa86hotmail writes:

the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall i try firts?

>>>I believe Humet is supposed to be given on an empty tummy. I would stop everything and introduce them one at a time.

I would start with probiotics, then Humet, then CLO. What form is the B12 in?

B6 and Glutathione can often cause problems

Mandi x

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Hi Mandy,

They are in form of capsules(nutricentre ones)

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:30:54 -0500Subject: Re: Supplements

In a message dated 22/12/2008 11:06:56 GMT Standard Time, barbaracanepa86hotmail writes:

the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall i try firts?

>>>I believe Humet is supposed to be given on an empty tummy. I would stop everything and introduce them one at a time.

I would start with probiotics, then Humet, then CLO. What form is the B12 in?

B6 and Glutathione can often cause problems

Mandi x

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This is a ridiculous post and I think quite dangerous

Barbara you need to start with ONE supplement only

Add a sprinkle on first day, and gradually increase to full dose in 7 days

Only after this add ONE more supplement and introduce slowly as before over 7 days

Do this adding a new supplement every week, or stop if one is causing bad reactoins

Do not add more than one at a time

Your poor kid needs everything SLOWLY - we use a DAN doctor and this is exactly what they recommend

Every supplement will satrt to stir up and reomve toxins - it needs to be done slowly!!!!

To: autism-biomedical-europe From: barbaracanepa86@...Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:38:18 +0000Subject: RE: Supplements

Hi Mandy, They are in form of capsules(nutricentre ones)

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASDaolDate: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:30:54 -0500Subject: Re: Supplements

In a message dated 22/12/2008 11:06:56 GMT Standard Time, barbaracanepa86hotmail writes:

the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall i try firts?

>>>I believe Humet is supposed to be given on an empty tummy. I would stop everything and introduce them one at a time.

I would start with probiotics, then Humet, then CLO. What form is the B12 in?

B6 and Glutathione can often cause problems

Mandi x

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This is a ridiculous post and I think quite dangerous

Barbara you need to start with ONE supplement only

Add a sprinkle on first day, and gradually increase to full dose in 7 days

Only after this add ONE more supplement and introduce slowly as before over 7 days

Do this adding a new supplement every week, or stop if one is causing bad reactoins

Do not add more than one at a time

Your poor kid needs everything SLOWLY - we use a DAN doctor and this is exactly what they recommend

Every supplement will satrt to stir up and reomve toxins - it needs to be done slowly!!!!

To: autism-biomedical-europe From: barbaracanepa86@...Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:38:18 +0000Subject: RE: Supplements

Hi Mandy, They are in form of capsules(nutricentre ones)

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASDaolDate: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:30:54 -0500Subject: Re: Supplements

In a message dated 22/12/2008 11:06:56 GMT Standard Time, barbaracanepa86hotmail writes:

the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall i try firts?

>>>I believe Humet is supposed to be given on an empty tummy. I would stop everything and introduce them one at a time.

I would start with probiotics, then Humet, then CLO. What form is the B12 in?

B6 and Glutathione can often cause problems

Mandi x

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Hi

you are 100% right,thanks again to you all

To: autism-biomedical-europe From: peter_2_@...Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:11:55 +0000Subject: RE: Supplements

This is a ridiculous post and I think quite dangerous Barbara you need to start with ONE supplement only Add a sprinkle on first day, and gradually increase to full dose in 7 days Only after this add ONE more supplement and introduce slowly as before over 7 days Do this adding a new supplement every week, or stop if one is causing bad reactoins Do not add more than one at a timeYour poor kid needs everything SLOWLY - we use a DAN doctor and this is exactly what they recommend Every supplement will satrt to stir up and reomve toxins - it needs to be done slowly!!!!

To: autism-biomedical-europe From: barbaracanepa86hotmailDate: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:38:18 +0000Subject: RE: Supplements

Hi Mandy, They are in form of capsules(nutricentre ones)

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASDaolDate: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:30:54 -0500Subject: Re: Supplements

In a message dated 22/12/2008 11:06:56 GMT Standard Time, barbaracanepa86hotmail writes:

the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall i try firts?

>>>I believe Humet is supposed to be given on an empty tummy. I would stop everything and introduce them one at a time.

I would start with probiotics, then Humet, then CLO. What form is the B12 in?

B6 and Glutathione can often cause problems

Mandi x

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What kind of natural chealator are you using?

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Dear Parents

Ive started giving my son some supplements

(B6,B12,vitamins,glutathione,5htp, probiotics,cod livel oil and a

natural chelator)and ive noticed some regression on my child,less eyes

contact(keeps on looking at the seiling)lots of spinning and less

interaction.What could it be?Is it normal when you start taking

supplements?Shall i stop?Hope to receive your reply and all wish you a

merry xmas!

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What kind of natural chealator are you using?

Hailu

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E-mail: hailu@...

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Dear Parents

Ive started giving my son some supplements

(B6,B12,vitamins,glutathione,5htp, probiotics,cod livel oil and a

natural chelator)and ive noticed some regression on my child,less eyes

contact(keeps on looking at the seiling)lots of spinning and less

interaction.What could it be?Is it normal when you start taking

supplements?Shall i stop?Hope to receive your reply and all wish you a

merry xmas!

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I agree with what you have said but not the way you have said it. We

are all on this site, trying to help our children in the very best

way that only we as parents can. Your remarks are not going to make

anyone feel good about themselves. We are all trying to learn here.

Let us help each other without telling one another that we are

ridiculous.

Helen

>

>

> This is a ridiculous post and I think quite dangerous

>

> Barbara you need to start with ONE supplement only

>

> Add a sprinkle on first day, and gradually increase to full dose in

7 days

>

> Only after this add ONE more supplement and introduce slowly as

before over 7 days

>

> Do this adding a new supplement every week, or stop if one is

causing bad reactoins

>

> Do not add more than one at a time

> Your poor kid needs everything SLOWLY - we use a DAN doctor and

this is exactly what they recommend

>

> Every supplement will satrt to stir up and reomve toxins - it needs

to be done slowly!!!!

>

>

>

> To: autism-biomedical-europe@...: barbaracanepa86@...: Mon, 22 Dec

2008 11:38:18 +0000Subject: RE: Supplements

>

>

>

> Hi Mandy, They are in form of capsules(nutricentre ones)

>

> To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe@...: Mum231ASD@...: Mon, 22 Dec 2008

06:30:54 -0500Subject: Re: Supplements

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 22/12/2008 11:06:56 GMT Standard Time,

barbaracanepa86@... writes:

> the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during

breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall

i try firts?

>

> >>>I believe Humet is supposed to be given on an empty tummy. I

would stop everything and introduce them one at a time.

>

> I would start with probiotics, then Humet, then CLO. What form is

the B12 in?

>

> B6 and Glutathione can often cause problems

>

> Mandi x

>

>

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I don't agree that your post is ridiculous Barbara. Lots of people,

even people who use DAN practitioners and with their guidance, make

this mistake. And we all make mistakes, even if we're as careful as

possible.

Some few supps do work best if started together, but for the most

part it is important to start only one supp at a time, at a very low

dose, and then go from there.

I'd recommend the 5htp at night, as it can help with sleep. Also,

some supps tend to cause more kids problems then other supps.

Glutathione is one of those. Lots of people choose to boost

glutathione in other ways, in case glut turns out to be the

problem. There was just an article about that in the TA

newsletter. If you don't get the newsletter, the article will appear

on the TA website in a couple weeks.

There is a file in the files section about supps that might help

guide you a bit.

Anita

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>

> Hi

>

> you are 100% right,thanks again to you all

>

>

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Hi Barby,

You are thinking in the right direction and you will find it so much easier when

you

implement them slowly, so dont be put off by unnecessary comments from anyone,

is a

minefield when you are starting out and we have all made mistakes!! We all have

to start

out somewhere and at the end of the day you are doing this for the same reasons

as the

rest of us! you love your child and you are trying to help them!!

Good luck

Sophie xx

> >

> >

> > This is a ridiculous post and I think quite dangerous

> >

> > Barbara you need to start with ONE supplement only

> >

> > Add a sprinkle on first day, and gradually increase to full dose in

> 7 days

> >

> > Only after this add ONE more supplement and introduce slowly as

> before over 7 days

> >

> > Do this adding a new supplement every week, or stop if one is

> causing bad reactoins

> >

> > Do not add more than one at a time

> > Your poor kid needs everything SLOWLY - we use a DAN doctor and

> this is exactly what they recommend

> >

> > Every supplement will satrt to stir up and reomve toxins - it needs

> to be done slowly!!!!

> >

> >

> >

> > To: autism-biomedical-europe@: barbaracanepa86@: Mon, 22 Dec

> 2008 11:38:18 +0000Subject: RE: Supplements

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Mandy, They are in form of capsules(nutricentre ones)

> >

> > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe@: Mum231ASD@: Mon, 22 Dec 2008

> 06:30:54 -0500Subject: Re: Supplements

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 22/12/2008 11:06:56 GMT Standard Time,

> barbaracanepa86@ writes:

> > the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during

> breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall

> i try firts?

> >

> > >>>I believe Humet is supposed to be given on an empty tummy. I

> would stop everything and introduce them one at a time.

> >

> > I would start with probiotics, then Humet, then CLO. What form is

> the B12 in?

> >

> > B6 and Glutathione can often cause problems

> >

> > Mandi x

> >

> >

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> >

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> >

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HI,wold like to thank Helen,Sophie and Anita for your lovely words and support.

Barbara.xxx

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: olivers4@...Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:34:00 +0000Subject: Re: Supplements

I agree with what you have said but not the way you have said it. We are all on this site, trying to help our children in the very best way that only we as parents can. Your remarks are not going to make anyone feel good about themselves. We are all trying to learn here. Let us help each other without telling one another that we are ridiculous.Helen >> > This is a ridiculous post and I think quite dangerous> > Barbara you need to start with ONE supplement only> > Add a sprinkle on first day, and gradually increase to full dose in 7 days> > Only after this add ONE more supplement and introduce slowly as before over 7 days> > Do this adding a new supplement every week, or stop if one is causing bad reactoins> > Do not add more than one at a time> Your poor kid needs everything SLOWLY - we use a DAN doctor and this is exactly what they recommend> > Every supplement will satrt to stir up and reomve toxins - it needs to be done slowly!!!!> > > > To: autism-biomedical-europe@...: barbaracanepa86@...: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:38:18 +0000Subject: RE: Supplements> > > > Hi Mandy, They are in form of capsules(nutricentre ones)> > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe@...: Mum231ASD@...: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:30:54 -0500Subject: Re: Supplements> > > > > > the natural chelator is humet-r.He takes them all together during breakfast.Maybe that's the mistake.what do you suggest me?what shall i try firts?> > >>>I believe Humet is supposed to be given on an empty tummy. I would stop everything and introduce them one at a time.> > I would start with probiotics, then Humet, then CLO. What form is the B12 in? > > B6 and Glutathione can often cause problems> > Mandi x> > > Stanco dei soliti auguri? Personalizzali con Messenger! > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> Live Search presents Big Snap II - win vouchers > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/> Visita il suo Spaces! Scopri le novitĂ  di Doretta.

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