Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 , I've used the boxed stuff in the past to make kefir. It does work but you have to be careful. There is a fine line where if you ferment it too long, it can turn to alcohol. There are a lot of experienced BEDers on the Yahoo Message Board called BEDROK. It is the Body Ecology Diet for beginners but a lot of people on the board have been doing kefir and the BED diet for a long time. Most of them use the coconuts but you can use the boxed water and/or Cocobiotic. Dana Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism> > > > > Thanks for that. There are so many diets that seem to "cure", my head is> still spinning, even after a month of research.> > > > > > __________________________________________________________> Click> <http://track.juno.com/s/lc?u=http://tagline.untd.us/fc/CAaCX096ramejTA46OE7> vQUz0AajNZQz/> here for free information business phone systems from top> companies.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Thanks Dana, I really appreciate it! :-) > > > > Didn't do the valtrex protocol with Baxter? She spoke at the > DAN! in > > Seattle this past October. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: mb12 valtrex > [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On > > Behalf Of jennifer_clatterbuck@ > > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:57 PM > > To: mb12 valtrex > > Subject: Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that. There are so many diets that seem to " cure " , my > head is > > still spinning, even after a month of research. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Click > > <http://track.juno.com/s/lc? > u=http://tagline.untd.us/fc/CAaCX096ramejTA46OE7 > > vQUz0AajNZQz/> here for free information business phone systems > from top > > companies. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 I'm not but we do Valtrex 3x a day. Never did twice a day so I can't tell you if there is a difference but I can say that I hear a lot of people that say they used it 2x see better results when upped to 3x. Again, no personal experience, though. And yes, in my opinion, an Rx antifungal is *necessary* and it's used for the duration of the Valtrex - which can be quite a lengthy commitment. This is why we do bloodwork every 2 months - to monitor the liver.CherylI want to know if she did valtrex with Baxter too. What dosage, and for how long? Did she use Diflucan too? What dose, and how long? Our son has been on Diflucan for 5 months (100mg/day) and Valtrex for three months (250mg 2x/day). I am wondering whether to up the valtrex to 3x/day? Anyone seen big changes after upping from 2x to 3x? We are ramping up to start this kefir this week. Found the plain coconut water - http://www.vitacoco.com. Anyone using this one to make kefir??? >> Didn't do the valtrex protocol with Baxter? She spoke at the DAN! in> Seattle this past October.> > > > _____ > > From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On> Behalf Of jennifer_clatterbuck@...> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:57 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism> > > > > Thanks for that. There are so many diets that seem to "cure", my head is> still spinning, even after a month of research.> > > > > > __________________________________________________________> Click> <http://track.juno.com/s/lc?u=http://tagline.untd.us/fc/CAaCX096ramejTA46OE7> vQUz0AajNZQz/> here for free information business phone systems from top> companies.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 , how do you feel coconut kefir compares to using VSL#3 or large doses of Klaire probiotics? I made the kefir but my son didn't like it (he's very taste sensitive) so I ended up drinking it. Yum! He's good about taking pills and the VSL#3, so I'm wondering if that's good enough... He's not a huge gut kid but does have a history of clostridia/yeast that often requires Rx. Who knows what goes on in there? He's never been scoped... Thanks for you opinion, e > > > > Didn't do the valtrex protocol with Baxter? She spoke at the > DAN! in > > Seattle this past October. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: mb12 valtrex > [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On > > Behalf Of jennifer_clatterbuck@ > > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:57 PM > > To: mb12 valtrex > > Subject: Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that. There are so many diets that seem to " cure " , my > head is > > still spinning, even after a month of research. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Click > > <http://track.juno.com/s/lc? > u=http://tagline.untd.us/fc/CAaCX096ramejTA46OE7 > > vQUz0AajNZQz/> here for free information business phone systems > from top > > companies. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 That's a dairy based product - definitely not CF. Henry's and Jimbo's both carry this brand of keifer. My son older boy, not on the diet, likes the peach flavor.Nora There is!!! Helios Nutrition makes it and its approved by the BED diet people. Trick is finding it in a store. The closest place to me that carries it is almost an hour away http://www.greenpeople.org/webpage.cfm?linkpage=http://www.heliosnutrition.com & memid=2389 & pmtlevel=0 In a message dated 6/10/2007 10:09:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maurine_meleck writes: sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, prepared---just to pour it in a glass. See what's free at AOL.com. Nora Middletontikigal@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Ingrid, I couldn't agree more.All our kids are soooo different and we have to find what works for them.I know of many kids that didn't even use diet to recover so that suggests to me that our kids may develop ASD for different reasons.I personally don't jump on every treatments anymore.We have been doing this for 4 years already.Some treatments work for some kids,a few recover and the rest of us have a further way to go.just my 2 cents.Ingrid Julyk wrote: I'm no expert, but my opinion: the Body Ecology Dietis very challenging, even for veterans of specialdiets, and not necessarily a miracle cure foreveryone/every kid! If yeast is a big issue, then itmay be helpful... Also, not too many kids are going tobeg for the coconut kefir (let alone things like"cultured veggies"). For kids who do need this hefty probiotic type ofdiet, you would want to start very slowly becausejumping into it will cause wicked die-off reactions. Iknow this from personal experience.Certainly, it's wonderful to hear about a recoveredkid, so I'm not in any way trying to burst anybubbles! Just wanted to play devil's advocate herebecause we have all heard a lot of miraculous storiesabout silver bullets.Ingrid "To accomplish great things, we must not only act, wemust dream; not only plan but also believe." Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Around me, Wild Oats carries this but it is a dairy product and definitely has casein in it. Dana -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of ratlenhum@...Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:40 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism There is!!! Helios Nutrition makes it and its approved by the BED diet people. Trick is finding it in a store. The closest place to me that carries it is almost an hour away http://www.greenpeople.org/webpage.cfm?linkpage=http://www.heliosnutrition.com & memid=2389 & pmtlevel=0 In a message dated 6/10/2007 10:09:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maurine_meleck writes: sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, prepared---just to pour it in a glass. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 e, I'm not but I thought I would respond since I've dabbled in BED, coconut kefir and VSL#3. Would your son take a very small amount of coconut kefir in a syringe, juice or mixed w/supplements, like say 1/8-1/4 of a teaspoon to start? Donna Gates recommends introducing it very slowly to ease the effects of yeast die-off. Before I realized my son was allergic to coconut, this is how we introduced it and over time, he was looking for it and drinking up to 4 ounces at a time. He really took to it and no longer wanted it flavored or in juice. I think because it really helped eliminate his sugar cravings. I've heard VSL#3 has been great for some kids but I didn't really see any benefits, so we stopped it. It does have trace amounts of casein in it, although I think it's pretty minute because my son is super sensitive and had no adverse effects from it. Have you ever tried saccromyces boulardi (a beneficial yeast/pre-biotic) for his yeast or goldenseal for his bacteria? Both of these products have helped my son tremendously and have eliminated the need for an Rx, although I don't know if that would be enough if we were to go back on Valtrex. Just some thoughts..... Dana Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that. There are so many diets that seem to "cure", my > head is> > still spinning, even after a month of research.> > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> > Click> > <http://track.juno.com/s/lc?> u=http://tagline.untd.us/fc/CAaCX096ramejTA46OE7> > vQUz0AajNZQz/> here for free information business phone systems > from top> > companies.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Hi Everyone, Just found this video clip that teaches you how to open a young coconut. I'm one of those people that didn't even know what a young coconut looks like even if I tripped over one. Now I know what to look for in the stores. http://www.rawguru.com/html/openyoungcoconut.html Hope this help those brave parents who may want to try making the coconut kefir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Another option is NOW just came out with a high-potency coconut oil soft gel so for the kids who can swallow capsules this might be another way. You can use coconut oil to cook things like eggs or some people just eat it off the spoon although I don't think that would be an option here. Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism There is!!! Helios Nutrition makes it and its approved by the BED diet people. Trick is finding it in a store. The closest place to me that carries it is almost an hour away http://www.greenpeople.org/webpage.cfm?linkpage=http://www.heliosnutrition.com & memid=2389 & pmtlevel=0 In a message dated 6/10/2007 10:09:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maurine_meleck writes: sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, prepared---just to pour it in a glass. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Yes, I also looked on this sight numerous times and it’s a dairy keifer not the coconut keifer everyone is talking about. Am I missing something? Dana, Do you know if Wild Oats carries the young coconuts and the powder to keifer it? - From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of DRead Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:13 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: RE: Re: 's story of recovered Autism Around me, Wild Oats carries this but it is a dairy product and definitely has casein in it. Dana -----Original Message----- From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of ratlenhumaol Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:40 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism There is!!! Helios Nutrition makes it and its approved by the BED diet people. Trick is finding it in a store. The closest place to me that carries it is almost an hour away http://www.greenpeople.org/webpage.cfm?linkpage=http://www.heliosnutrition.com & memid=2389 & pmtlevel=0 In a message dated 6/10/2007 10:09:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maurine_meleck writes: sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, prepared---just to pour it in a glass. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 , As far as I know, Wild Oats only carries the pre-made dairy type kefir. I know they sometimes carry the coconuts. Because I never went that route and used the boxed juice, I haven't noticed if they always carry them. I don't have time right now but later I will find the instructions on how to make the coconut kefir. I found them over a year ago on the BED website. Dana -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Chap 'n AliSent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:22 AMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: RE: Re: 's story of recovered Autism Yes, I also looked on this sight numerous times and it’s a dairy keifer not the coconut keifer everyone is talking about. Am I missing something? Dana, Do you know if Wild Oats carries the young coconuts and the powder to keifer it? - From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of DReadSent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:13 AMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: RE: Re: 's story of recovered Autism Around me, Wild Oats carries this but it is a dairy product and definitely has casein in it. Dana -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of ratlenhumaolSent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:40 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism There is!!! Helios Nutrition makes it and its approved by the BED diet people. Trick is finding it in a store. The closest place to me that carries it is almost an hour away http://www.greenpeople.org/webpage.cfm?linkpage=http://www.heliosnutrition.com & memid=2389 & pmtlevel=0 In a message dated 6/10/2007 10:09:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maurine_meleck writes: sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, prepared---just to pour it in a glass. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I think this would be a good antifungal (similar to caprylic acid) but without the probiotic quality unless the gel is somehow fermented. Dana -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of CochranSent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:59 AMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism Another option is NOW just came out with a high-potency coconut oil soft gel so for the kids who can swallow capsules this might be another way. You can use coconut oil to cook things like eggs or some people just eat it off the spoon although I don't think that would be an option here. Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism There is!!! Helios Nutrition makes it and its approved by the BED diet people. Trick is finding it in a store. The closest place to me that carries it is almost an hour away http://www.greenpeople.org/webpage.cfm?linkpage=http://www.heliosnutrition.com & memid=2389 & pmtlevel=0 In a message dated 6/10/2007 10:09:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maurine_meleck writes: sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, prepared---just to pour it in a glass. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I am just an already overwhelmed mama with little time on her hands, so anything that can come prepackaged is a delight to me! Jen RE: Re: 's story of recovered Autism sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, prepared---just to pour it in a glass. DRead <gdreadcomcast (DOT) net> wrote: My son didn't just mind the taste of coconut kefir, he absolutely loved it. I'm hoping that he takes to plain old kefired water as much as the coconut water because the health benefits are immense. Dana -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of djberleSent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: 's story of recovered Autism Hey guys...Baxter's mom here. You are ALL right! Die off can happen, many kids are allergic to coconut, BED is heavy on the veggies... etc etc... This is merely one more piece of info to add into YOUR hopper of things to try based on your OWN child. For my family this was a GREAT probiotic. I buy the young (not the brown ones) coconuts at the health food store. (You can now purchase coconut water already out of the nut....Coconutone is one brand) Then you purchase the starter at bodyecologydiet.com (I am not affiliated with them in any way). and ferment it then you can use a few tablespoons of it to make subsequent batches...up to 6 iterations I believe. Its a natural antiviral, antifungal and antibiotic. I used it in place of water. Some kids dont like the tart taste. Mine did not object. I also would scrape out the coconut meat....ferment it as well, add honey and legal vanilla and they would eat it like pudding. Tons of work.,....but the benefits....It is NOT SCD LEGAL for those in the early stages of the diet as it is an unripe fruit. It is acceptable for those later on in the diet (pls see www.pecanbread.com for more info)I have major gut kids (even my NT ones have gut issues) and this stuff was AWESOME for us and I think maybe highly beneficial for those undergoing chelation and antiviral therapy to keep the gut in check through the process....Again for clarification...I am not selling anything....get no royalties ... just sharing some info of somthing that was beneficial for us. And that's all I have to say bout that.... (Forest Gump)wishing you all good health.... baxter's mom>> > Hi from Sue,> This was in the Donna Gates Newsletter.> (With great photos,etc... which won't come through here..)> Thanks !> Sue> > How Body Ecology Helped Berle's Son Overcome Autism and Her Daughter Survive Rotavirus > by BodyEcology.com > > Berle shares how Young Coconut Kefir and dietary changes were the key to curing her son, Baxter, of autism.> > Over 5 years ago, 5 different experts told Berle that her young son, Baxter, was autistic. > > That he would never talk or potty train. That he may even be institutionalized when he got older.> > At first devastated and angry, did not want someone else looking into the "crystal ball of capabilities" and telling her about Baxter's future. A mom of three kids, admits that early life with Baxter was not easy. > > He had the classic symptoms of ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) including tantrums, isolation, sleep issues, touch sensitivity, and severe gastrointestional problems.> > "I was just a person he screamed at," she says. > > describes feeling alone and ashamed. Even with her background as a special education teacher, she did not know what do, or even what caused her son's condition.> > > Shots + Antibiotics = Autism? > > In fact, up until 12 months of age, Baxter was developing normally; he was even starting to speak. Then between 12 and 18 months, Baxter began to show symptoms that later realized meant autism.> > "At the time, you just rationalize it away," but is convinced that Baxter's gut health and vaccinations played a role in the autism. > > "Right after his first set of shots, he was hospitalized for a kidney infection, and they gave him heavy doses of antibiotics. I think the antibiotics killed the bacteria in his gut."> > After that, Baxter just "slipped away," says. "He had more words at one year than at three." Of all the symptoms, Baxter's gastro-intestinal issues were the worst. > > "One day, we counted that he had diarrhea 33 times!" > > > Dietary Changes Bring Some Relief> > started looking for solutions, and turned to diet as a way to help her son. > > She knew that she was allergic to milk and feels like all of her children, including Eliza (now 3) and (now 6), have true milk allergies. > > So she thought the gluten free casein free (GFCF) diet would be a good alternative treatment for Baxter, who was 2.5 years old at the time.> > The first 2 weeks were tough. Baxter went through withdrawal, screaming for foods like bagels and pizza that he was used to eating.> > Then, as if by magic, he stopped!> > marveled at the changes. "Literally 2 weeks after we eliminated gluten and casein, he started speaking and making eye contact." She was so encouraged by the changes in her son that she continued to search out dietary treatments for autism.> > > Young Coconut Kefir: "The Cream"> > Around that time, 's neighbor was making Young Coconut Kefir for her own autistic son. She had a batch that needed refrigeration, and was happy to provide some space.> > took advantage of what was in her fridge and began to serve Baxter Young Coconut Kefir. > > The results were amazing!> > Baxter's gut inflammation markers returned to normal levels and his functioning improved so much that no one would ever know that experts once believed he was autistic. Baxter is now 8 years old and doing school work on the 4th grade level. He has probiotics every day.> > Although autism is a distant memory, he still drinks the tasty probiotic drink, Young Coconut Kefir, that got him there, asking, "Mom, can I have the cream?" > > Baxter benefited from numerous therapies, ranging from the traditional to the alternative, but attributes this amazing turnaround to Body Ecology and Young Coconut Kefir.> > She jokes that you can often find her in the backyard, chopping up coconuts with a machete!> > > Young Coconut Kefir Also Saved Her Daughter> > > Make your own healing microflora-rich Young Coconut Kefir at home with our delicious Kefir Starter. Or try all 3 Starters to benefit from the range of different microflora. Save 20% when you buy all 3!> > As miraculous as Baxter's recovery seems, considers her daughter "the poster child for Young Coconut Kefir."> > Eliza contracted Rotavirus, a severe viral infection that can cause diarrhea, severe dehydration and hospitalization, when she was barely 2 years old. Little Eliza was vomiting blood, having seizures and dropped so much weight that even her doctors could not figure out how to help her recover.> > had never given the Young Coconut Kefir to Eliza, figuring, "You give it to your sickest kid, and at that time it was Baxter." But acknowledges, "Your whole world shifts when your child is sick," and she desperately wanted Eliza to improve. > > Thinking back to advice that "you can never have too many probiotics," she began to feed her little girl as much Young Coconut Kefir as she could handle. > > Eliza responded to the fermented drink and recovered so quickly that even her pediatrician requested the Young Coconut Kefir recipe!> > > Body Ecology For Life> > The Berle family believes in probiotics, and all of the children get plenty of beneficial bacteria in their diets, usually in the form of Young Coconut Kefir.> > sometimes mixes the Young Coconut Kefir with pear juice for sweetness, but otherwise uses it like water. > > She also maintains a gluten free casein free home, something that is becoming easier to do and less "out there" now that grocery stores carry gluten free alternatives. Since the Body Ecology program is gluten and casein free (GFCF), along with being anti-fungal and anti-viral, it is an effective way to heal autism and end cravings for processed foods.> > Even for children. Baxter does not even want tempting slices of pizza, because he knows it makes him sick. > > The Berles believe in Body Ecology, and know that Young Coconut Kefir healed Baxter and Eliza!> > > Reaches Out To Other Parents> > "I won the autism lottery," marvels, and has vowed to help others in her situation.> > Now that her son is completely recovered, advises some 250 parents of children with autism through her work with TACA (Talk About Curing Autism Now) and is a founding member of Generation Rescue, an organization that supports parents who seek new treatments for children with autism.> > "I'm still involved because people need support and alternatives." > > has a huge amount of gratitude for Donna and the Body Ecology system for healing and internally thanks her every day for "this non-invasive, brilliant, and lovely way to help our children."> > For more information on how to follow the Body Ecology program to heal autism and illness, read The Body Ecology Diet, by Donna Gates.> > For Information About Berle's Organizations:> > Talk About Curing Autism Now> www.TACANow.org> > Generation Rescue> www.GenerationRescue.org> > > > > Return to Newsletter Archive> > Recommend This Page to a Friend> > Print this article> > a.. 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Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Thanks for taking the time to write to me!! Are the step by steps hard to do? I just suck at all this....... Jen Re: 's story of recovered Autism Hey guys...Baxter's mom here. You are ALL right! Die off can happen, many kids are allergic to coconut, BED is heavy on the veggies... etc etc... This is merely one more piece of info to add into YOUR hopper of things to try based on your OWN child. For my family this was a GREAT probiotic. I buy the young (not the brown ones) coconuts at the health food store. (You can now purchase coconut water already out of the nut....Coconutone is one brand) Then you purchase the starter at bodyecologydiet.com (I am not affiliated with them in any way). and ferment it then you can use a few tablespoons of it to make subsequent batches...up to 6 iterations I believe. Its a natural antiviral, antifungal and antibiotic. I used it in place of water. Some kids dont like the tart taste. Mine did not object. I also would scrape out the coconut meat....ferment it as well, add honey and legal vanilla and they would eat it like pudding. Tons of work.,....but the benefits....It is NOT SCD LEGAL for those in the early stages of the diet as it is an unripe fruit. It is acceptable for those later on in the diet (pls see www.pecanbread.com for more info)I have major gut kids (even my NT ones have gut issues) and this stuff was AWESOME for us and I think maybe highly beneficial for those undergoing chelation and antiviral therapy to keep the gut in check through the process....Again for clarification...I am not selling anything....get no royalties ... just sharing some info of somthing that was beneficial for us. And that's all I have to say bout that.... (Forest Gump)wishing you all good health.... baxter's mom>> > Hi from Sue,> This was in the Donna Gates Newsletter.> (With great photos,etc... which won't come through here..)> Thanks !> Sue> > How Body Ecology Helped Berle's Son Overcome Autism and Her Daughter Survive Rotavirus > by BodyEcology.com > > Berle shares how Young Coconut Kefir and dietary changes were the key to curing her son, Baxter, of autism.> > Over 5 years ago, 5 different experts told Berle that her young son, Baxter, was autistic. > > That he would never talk or potty train. That he may even be institutionalized when he got older.> > At first devastated and angry, did not want someone else looking into the "crystal ball of capabilities" and telling her about Baxter's future. A mom of three kids, admits that early life with Baxter was not easy. > > He had the classic symptoms of ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) including tantrums, isolation, sleep issues, touch sensitivity, and severe gastrointestional problems.> > "I was just a person he screamed at," she says. > > describes feeling alone and ashamed. Even with her background as a special education teacher, she did not know what do, or even what caused her son's condition.> > > Shots + Antibiotics = Autism? > > In fact, up until 12 months of age, Baxter was developing normally; he was even starting to speak. Then between 12 and 18 months, Baxter began to show symptoms that later realized meant autism.> > "At the time, you just rationalize it away," but is convinced that Baxter's gut health and vaccinations played a role in the autism. > > "Right after his first set of shots, he was hospitalized for a kidney infection, and they gave him heavy doses of antibiotics. I think the antibiotics killed the bacteria in his gut."> > After that, Baxter just "slipped away," says. "He had more words at one year than at three." Of all the symptoms, Baxter's gastro-intestinal issues were the worst. > > "One day, we counted that he had diarrhea 33 times!" > > > Dietary Changes Bring Some Relief> > started looking for solutions, and turned to diet as a way to help her son. > > She knew that she was allergic to milk and feels like all of her children, including Eliza (now 3) and (now 6), have true milk allergies. > > So she thought the gluten free casein free (GFCF) diet would be a good alternative treatment for Baxter, who was 2.5 years old at the time.> > The first 2 weeks were tough. Baxter went through withdrawal, screaming for foods like bagels and pizza that he was used to eating.> > Then, as if by magic, he stopped!> > marveled at the changes. "Literally 2 weeks after we eliminated gluten and casein, he started speaking and making eye contact." She was so encouraged by the changes in her son that she continued to search out dietary treatments for autism.> > > Young Coconut Kefir: "The Cream"> > Around that time, 's neighbor was making Young Coconut Kefir for her own autistic son. She had a batch that needed refrigeration, and was happy to provide some space.> > took advantage of what was in her fridge and began to serve Baxter Young Coconut Kefir. > > The results were amazing!> > Baxter's gut inflammation markers returned to normal levels and his functioning improved so much that no one would ever know that experts once believed he was autistic. Baxter is now 8 years old and doing school work on the 4th grade level. He has probiotics every day.> > Although autism is a distant memory, he still drinks the tasty probiotic drink, Young Coconut Kefir, that got him there, asking, "Mom, can I have the cream?" > > Baxter benefited from numerous therapies, ranging from the traditional to the alternative, but attributes this amazing turnaround to Body Ecology and Young Coconut Kefir.> > She jokes that you can often find her in the backyard, chopping up coconuts with a machete!> > > Young Coconut Kefir Also Saved Her Daughter> > > Make your own healing microflora-rich Young Coconut Kefir at home with our delicious Kefir Starter. Or try all 3 Starters to benefit from the range of different microflora. Save 20% when you buy all 3!> > As miraculous as Baxter's recovery seems, considers her daughter "the poster child for Young Coconut Kefir."> > Eliza contracted Rotavirus, a severe viral infection that can cause diarrhea, severe dehydration and hospitalization, when she was barely 2 years old. Little Eliza was vomiting blood, having seizures and dropped so much weight that even her doctors could not figure out how to help her recover.> > had never given the Young Coconut Kefir to Eliza, figuring, "You give it to your sickest kid, and at that time it was Baxter." But acknowledges, "Your whole world shifts when your child is sick," and she desperately wanted Eliza to improve. > > Thinking back to advice that "you can never have too many probiotics," she began to feed her little girl as much Young Coconut Kefir as she could handle. > > Eliza responded to the fermented drink and recovered so quickly that even her pediatrician requested the Young Coconut Kefir recipe!> > > Body Ecology For Life> > The Berle family believes in probiotics, and all of the children get plenty of beneficial bacteria in their diets, usually in the form of Young Coconut Kefir.> > sometimes mixes the Young Coconut Kefir with pear juice for sweetness, but otherwise uses it like water. > > She also maintains a gluten free casein free home, something that is becoming easier to do and less "out there" now that grocery stores carry gluten free alternatives. Since the Body Ecology program is gluten and casein free (GFCF), along with being anti-fungal and anti-viral, it is an effective way to heal autism and end cravings for processed foods.> > Even for children. Baxter does not even want tempting slices of pizza, because he knows it makes him sick. > > The Berles believe in Body Ecology, and know that Young Coconut Kefir healed Baxter and Eliza!> > > Reaches Out To Other Parents> > "I won the autism lottery," marvels, and has vowed to help others in her situation.> > Now that her son is completely recovered, advises some 250 parents of children with autism through her work with TACA (Talk About Curing Autism Now) and is a founding member of Generation Rescue, an organization that supports parents who seek new treatments for children with autism.> > "I'm still involved because people need support and alternatives." > > has a huge amount of gratitude for Donna and the Body Ecology system for healing and internally thanks her every day for "this non-invasive, brilliant, and lovely way to help our children."> > For more information on how to follow the Body Ecology program to heal autism and illness, read The Body Ecology Diet, by Donna Gates.> > For Information About Berle's Organizations:> > Talk About Curing Autism Now> www.TACANow.org> > Generation Rescue> www.GenerationRescue.org> > > > > Return to Newsletter Archive> > Recommend This Page to a Friend> > Print this article> > a.. 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Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 YEAY!!! There is a store only about 15 mins. from me where I can buy it!! Hallelloooooyyyaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! Jen Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism There is!!! Helios Nutrition makes it and its approved by the BED diet people. Trick is finding it in a store. The closest place to me that carries it is almost an hour away http://www.greenpeople.org/webpage.cfm?linkpage=http://www.heliosnutrition.com & memid=2389 & pmtlevel=0 In a message dated 6/10/2007 10:09:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maurine_meleck writes: sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, prepared---just to pour it in a glass. See what's free at AOL.com. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 if your child is not sensitive to casien, then would it still be a good option? Jen RE: Re: 's story of recovered Autism Around me, Wild Oats carries this but it is a dairy product and definitely has casein in it. Dana -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of ratlenhumaolSent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:40 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism There is!!! Helios Nutrition makes it and its approved by the BED diet people. Trick is finding it in a store. The closest place to me that carries it is almost an hour away http://www.greenpeople.org/webpage.cfm?linkpage=http://www.heliosnutrition.com & memid=2389 & pmtlevel=0 In a message dated 6/10/2007 10:09:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maurine_meleck writes: sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, prepared---just to pour it in a glass. See what's free at AOL.com. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I think if your child does not have severe gut issues, it is probably a good option since Donna Gates (I believe) recommends it once the gut is healed. -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of SpokasSent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:23 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism if your child is not sensitive to casien, then would it still be a good option? Jen RE: Re: 's story of recovered Autism Around me, Wild Oats carries this but it is a dairy product and definitely has casein in it. Dana -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of ratlenhumaolSent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:40 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism There is!!! Helios Nutrition makes it and its approved by the BED diet people. Trick is finding it in a store. The closest place to me that carries it is almost an hour away http://www.greenpeople.org/webpage.cfm?linkpage=http://www.heliosnutrition.com & memid=2389 & pmtlevel=0 In a message dated 6/10/2007 10:09:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maurine_meleck writes: sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, prepared---just to pour it in a glass. See what's free at AOL.com. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Whoohoo, i just found out that cocobiotics is made in Australia!, I just ordered 4 bottles as thay offered free postage within Australia, and had it at $22.00AUD per bottle,the rep i spoke to said Donna Gates was just in Sydney speaking about it at a seminar. Hope this is going to help sort out my sons gut issues, will keep you updated... > > I think if your child does not have severe gut issues, it is probably a good > option since Donna Gates (I believe) recommends it once the gut is healed. > Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism > > > > if your child is not sensitive to casien, then would it still be a good > option? > Jen > Re: Re: 's story of recovered Autism > > > > There is!!! Helios Nutrition makes it and its approved by the BED > diet people. Trick is finding it in a store. The closest place to me that > carries it is almost an hour away > > http://www.greenpeople.org/webpage.cfm? linkpage=http://www.heliosnutri > tion.com & memid=2389 & pmtlevel=0 > > > > In a message dated 6/10/2007 10:09:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > maurine_meleck@... writes: > sure wish there was an easier way to get this-already fermented, > prepared---just to pour it in a glass. > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: > 6/10/2007 1:39 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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