Blast This Guy on FB

July 28, 2009

Rodger Gehring

Check out his profile pic. I thought he either had DS or had a friend with it. Turns out he only uses this pic because he's a complete asshole. Please feel free to leave him a message.

Thanks!

Carolyn

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"The real winners in life are the people who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or make it better."

~ Barbara Pletcher

July 28, 2009

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 28, 2009

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-) Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group -

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that " asshole " on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the " asshole " on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before " jumping " up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

" Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's " hit list " . They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem " offensive " to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question... " what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you? "

and here was his response to me:

" The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one "

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like " retard " , confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be " guiding " younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 28, 2009

Oh my - Google Rodger Gehring and you will see that he is a former police officer arrested for beating his wife.

Enough said!!

-Carolyn

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"The real winners in life are the people who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or make it better."

~ Barbara Pletcher

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 28, 2009

"DJ", I don't know who you are but I AM A DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVIST AND PROUD OF IT!!!

Hurray for ME!!!

Carolyn

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"The real winners in life are the people who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or make it better."

~ Barbara Pletcher

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 28, 2009

Oh - and if anyone cares to add Rodger Gehring as a friend, they will see that he has another pic of a man with DS wearing a Superman costume that he uses for his profile pic. The guy is a liar and a fraud. DJ, if you choose to believe in him, that is sad. Please keep your vulgar language to yourself!!!

Carolyn

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"The real winners in life are the people who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or make it better."

~ Barbara Pletcher

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 28, 2009

She un-subbed, so don't bother.Â :-) Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group -

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen'>http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

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Hurray for ME!!!

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CarolynÂ

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Â " The real winners in life are the people who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or make it better. "

~ Barbara PletcherÂ

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-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

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Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group -

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/

Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

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Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that " asshole " on facebook,

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I am sitting here not sure what to say toÂ you because nothing I could ever sayÂ on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.Â

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the " asshole " Â on facebook.Â

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Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that beforeÂ " jumping " up with you on thoseÂ high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

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" Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's " hit list " . They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means.

Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem " offensive " to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest.

Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question... " what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you? "

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and here was his response to me:

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" The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one "

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I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL.Â Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offenseÂ for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against orÂ boycott businesses, movies or pass hateÂ laws for words like " retard " ,Â confrontÂ well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY comingÂ from.Â AND where the person on the other side is coming fromÂ Each situation is different and it is not necessary toÂ ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight.Â But if you are looking for one....then YOUÂ WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.Â Â Â

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit.Â Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone?Â That is simply PATHETIC.Â Â YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you.Â and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite anyÂ other beneficial information.Â

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended.Â Â In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW.Â Â SHAME ON YOUÂ for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS.Â You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever youÂ reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.Â Â

It is a bit comical thatÂ you women are supposed to beÂ " guiding " younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support???????Â I suggest they look elsewhere.Â IÂ only stayed on myself because of theÂ ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion.Â Â I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leaveÂ the door open for any beneficial information....but this group isÂ DOMINATEDÂ by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantlyÂ display theÂ carlessness of their words andÂ ignorance of their beliefs.Â I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

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By the way, don't bother emailingÂ me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group.Â and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.Â

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July 28, 2009

Oh, thank goodness! WOW. She can go off and be friends with Rodger.

Thank you!

Carolyn

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"The real winners in life are the people who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or make it better."

~ Barbara Pletcher

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 28, 2009

Its a good thing, cause I was just going to boot her. I was very offended at her post. And frankly tired of having to deal with her several times in the past for stuff like this.

Whoever said he has a photo of another guy in a superman suit, please email with that photo if you can. If you don't know how to save the picture, or how to screen shot the page, I can tell you. The reason I ask is that in our Buddy Walk we had a man in a superman costume, and I know his photo is on some websites. I want to be sure it is not his photo.

Thank you.

Jules

Romero

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 28, 2009

LOL... that's how I knew she un-subbed, I went looking for her. Some people just seem to enjoy causing fights, I guess. Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.

Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/

Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

Â

Its a good thing, cause I was just going to boot her.Â Â I was very offended at her post.Â And frankly tired of having to deal with her several times in the past for stuff like this.

Â

Whoever said he has a photo of another guy in a superman suit, please email with that photo if you can.Â Â Â If you don't know how to save the picture, or how to screen shot the page,Â I can tell you.Â Â The reason I ask is that in our Buddy Walk we had a man in a superman costume, and I know his photo is on some websites.Â Â I want to be sure it is not his photo.Â

Â

Thank you.

Â

Jules

Romero

Â

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Â Â

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group -

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/

Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

Â

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that " asshole " on facebook,

Â

I am sitting here not sure what to say toÂ you because nothing I could ever sayÂ on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.Â

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the " asshole " Â on facebook.Â

Â

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that beforeÂ " jumping " up with you on thoseÂ high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

Â

" Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's " hit list " . They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means.

Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem " offensive " to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest.

Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question... " what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you? "

Â

and here was his response to me:

Â

" The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one "

Â

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL.Â Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offenseÂ for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against orÂ boycott businesses, movies or pass hateÂ laws for words like " retard " ,Â confrontÂ well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY comingÂ from.Â AND where the person on the other side is coming fromÂ Each situation is different and it is not necessary toÂ ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight.Â But if you are looking for one....then YOUÂ WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.Â Â Â

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit.Â Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone?Â That is simply PATHETIC.Â Â YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you.Â and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite anyÂ other beneficial information.Â

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended.Â Â In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW.Â Â SHAME ON YOUÂ for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS.Â You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever youÂ reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.Â Â

It is a bit comical thatÂ you women are supposed to beÂ " guiding " younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support???????Â I suggest they look elsewhere.Â IÂ only stayed on myself because of theÂ ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion.Â Â I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leaveÂ the door open for any beneficial information....but this group isÂ DOMINATEDÂ by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantlyÂ display theÂ carlessness of their words andÂ ignorance of their beliefs.Â I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

Â

By the way, don't bother emailingÂ me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group.Â and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.Â

Â

Â Â

Â

July 28, 2009

Carol

(AnCel) and the rest of the list,

I

sincerely apologize.Â I jumped to conclusions too quickly after she requested

we send him a letter, and while my letter was mild, I should not have sent it

without checking first.Â

I got

the same reply from the guy, and tried to apologize, but he had me blocked.Â No

excuses.Â I was wrong and I am sorry.Â

If

anyone would like to pass this on to him I would appreciate it, but if not that

is ok too.

I hope

yall can forgive me.

Â Â Â Â

Â Â Â Â Nolan-6

Â Â Â Â Phoebe Ds & Cfâ€”4

From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carol AnCel

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:50

PM

To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

Subject: Re:

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

LOL... that's how I knew she un-subbed, I went looking

for her.

Some people just seem to enjoy causing fights, I guess.

Carol in IL

Mom to , 8 DS

My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.

Join our Down Syndrome information group -

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/

DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/

http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/

Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Romero <noliptodaybellsouth (DOT) net>

wrote:

Its a good thing, cause I was just going

to boot her. I was very offended at her post. And frankly

tired of having to deal with her several times in the past for stuff like

this.

Whoever said he has a photo of another guy

in a superman suit, please email with that photo if you

can. If you don't know how to save the picture, or how to

screen shot the page, I can tell you. The reason I ask is

that in our Buddy Walk we had a man in a superman costume, and I know his photo

is on some websites. I want to be sure it is not his photo.

Thank you.

Jules

Romero

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange]

Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your

people straight. :-)

Carol in IL

Mom to , 8 DS

My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.

Join our Down Syndrome information group -

http://health. groups.yahoo.

com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/

http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/

Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail>

wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone

else ready to hang that " asshole " on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what

to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or

on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads

and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are

choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and

PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the

" asshole " on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say,

let me first tell you that before " jumping " up with you on

those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on

facebook myself and this is what I asked:

" Hi , you don't know

me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's " hit

list " . They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are

going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture

even means.

Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether

or not to leave this DS group for good or not.

I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem

" offensive " to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome

activists then you stir up a hornets nest.

Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question... " what does

that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you? "

and here was his response to me:

" The person in

my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It

gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need

to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a

person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for

kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since

birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered

offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like

people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering

to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended

one "

I AM ABSOLUTELY

ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL.

Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to

you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every

person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against

or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like

" retard " , confront well-meaning teenagers or

REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the

situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND

where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is

different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a

fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE

I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE

HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on

facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in

your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply

PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from

because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I

cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial

information.

I agree with the man

that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology

Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU

DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and

egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY

retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP

YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical

that you women are supposed to be " guiding " younger

women or others who come here looking for advice and support???????

I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because

of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant

before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have

remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for

any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by

DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display

the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their

beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking

health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't

bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from

this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already

they will be no good.

July 28, 2009

Nothing to forgive. When it comes to protecting our kids.

I still wanna see the superman photo he has on there. I'm not adding him, and I am sure he isnt adding folks now.

Jules

Romero

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 28, 2009

Ok, I

see now that I got some people confused.Â Sorry again.Â I think the safe thing

is to just keep my mouth shut.Â My husbandâ€™s insurance is going to drop me from

his plan because of some stupid paperwork issue and I am hanging on the edge of

total break down right now.Â It is making me not think clearly, so here I go apologizing

again.

Minor

train wreck here, move along nothing to see!

Â Â Â Â

Â Â Â Â Nolan-6

Â Â Â Â Phoebe Ds & Cfâ€”4

From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of M/M Kupinsky

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:28

PM

To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

Subject: Re:

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Oh my - Google Rodger Gehring and you will see that

he is a former police officer arrested for beating his wife.

Enough said!!

-Carolyn

ï»¿ ï»¿ ï»¿

" The real winners in life are the people

who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or

make it better. "

~ Barbara Pletcher

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange]

Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your

people straight. :-)

Carol in IL

Mom to , 8 DS

My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.

Join our Down Syndrome information group -

http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/

DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/

http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/

Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else

ready to hang that " asshole " on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to

say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on

this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make

a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some

deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and

PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the

" asshole " on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say,

let me first tell you that before " jumping " up with you on

those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook

myself and this is what I asked:

" Hi , you don't know me,

but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's " hit

list " . They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are

going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture

even means.

Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or

not to leave this DS group for good or not.

I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem

" offensive " to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome

activists then you stir up a hornets nest.

Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question... " what does

that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you? "

and here was his response to me:

" The person in my

face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives

him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get

off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's

picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I

also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess

if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you

too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't

expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do

NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one "

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED

TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since

the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we

cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who

looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott

businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like

" retard " , confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT

SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is

or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person

on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is

not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you

are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE

HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on

facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your

own lives to leave people alone? That is simply

PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because

trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot

STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial

information.

I agree with the man

that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an

apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone

YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and

egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY

retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP

YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical

that you women are supposed to be " guiding " younger women

or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I

suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of

the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before

cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent

until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial

information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME

ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of

their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution

everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from

these people.

By the way, don't

bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this

group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they

will be no good.

July 28, 2009

I am

sorry DJ.

Nolan-6

Phoebe Ds & Cf—4

From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of DJ Krug

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:38

PM

To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange]

Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that

" asshole " on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because

nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter)

would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference

at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep

reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your

original message about the " asshole " on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that

before " jumping " up with you on those high horses you ride

on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

" Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down

Syndrome group that now has you on it's " hit list " . They think you

are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without

knowing who you are or what your picture even means.

Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or

not to leave this DS group for good or not.

I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem

" offensive " to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome

activists then you stir up a hornets nest.

Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question... " what does

that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you? "

and here was his response to me:

" The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I

love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my

profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime

you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them

for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since

birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered

offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people

and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their

needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one "

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE

LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was

trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the

offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to

campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for

words like " retard " , confront well-meaning teenagers or

REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation

is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the

person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and

it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if

you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I

guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY

BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have

enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply

PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because

trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot

STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial

information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In

fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive

comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU

for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You

should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try

this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A

CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to

be " guiding " younger women or others who come here looking for

advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere.

I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me

privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an

opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to

leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group

is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments

constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance

of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before

taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone

who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I

know already they will be no good.

July 29, 2009

Thanks

Jules

Â Â Â Â

Â Â Â Â Nolan-6

Â Â Â Â Phoebe Ds & Cfâ€”4

From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Romero

Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009

12:14 AM

To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

Subject: RE:

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Nothing to forgive. When it

comes to protecting our kids.

I still wanna see the superman photo he

has on there. I'm not adding him, and I am sure he isnt adding

folks now.

Jules

Romero

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange]

Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey

DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)

Carol in IL

Mom to , 8 DS

My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.

Join our Down Syndrome information group -

http://health. groups.yahoo.

com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/

http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/

Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On

Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail>

wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang

that " asshole " on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say

to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on

this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads

and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are

choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply

to your original message about the " asshole " on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first

tell you that before " jumping " up with you on

those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on

facebook myself and this is what I asked:

" Hi , you don't know me, but I am on

a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's " hit list " . They

think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report

you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means.

Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know

whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not.

I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem

" offensive " to me. But when you piss off a group of Down

Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest.

Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question... " what

does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you? "

and here was his response to me:

" The person in my face book photo is a

family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure

to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high

horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with

Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also

have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if

I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to

you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and

don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their

needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one "

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS

GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically

correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as

mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at

our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott

businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like

" retard " , confront well-meaning teenagers or

REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the

situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND

where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is

different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a

fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND

ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you

must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for

this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to

leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the

kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows

you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this

list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one

offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your

ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN

KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her

on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract

whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR

NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are

supposed to be " guiding " younger women or others who come

here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look

elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies

who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY

head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until

now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial

information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN

SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display

the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their

beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking

health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I

will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I

don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 29, 2009

I'll try and get that photo ASAP. He would need to be a "friend" for me to access it, so I'm going to log in under another account.

In the photo, the man with DS in the Superman costume has his arms positioned up as though he is showing off his biceps - and he has a big smile. Sweet pic.

Thank you,

Carolyn

ï»¿ ï»¿ ï»¿

"The real winners in life are the people who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or make it better."

~ Barbara Pletcher

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 29, 2009

,

Don't feel bad. The guy is not telling the truth. I actually KNOW him. He graduated with several of my friends from high school. He is an arrogant person who thinks the pics are funny. I have several e-mails from friends of mine apologizing for his behavior on FB.

You did the right thing.

I need to get my hands on that Superman photo he stole.

Carolyn

ï»¿ ï»¿ ï»¿

"The real winners in life are the people who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or make it better."

~ Barbara Pletcher

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 29, 2009

That's OK, . I know how stressful insurance can be.

Hang in there and vent here!!

HUGS,

Carolyn

ï»¿ ï»¿ ï»¿

"The real winners in life are the people who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or make it better."

~ Barbara Pletcher

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 29, 2009

You know, anyone with that kind of anger needs some help. I'm glad she unsubscribed, because some of us here were unwittingly adding to HER problems. She jumped right on getting Rodger's " side " of the story but didn't even get the facts straight here. I could tell from reading Carolyn's original post that she knew the jerk. Don't let her bother you, . You did nothing wrong and she's got major problems.

Shari

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that " asshole " on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the " asshole " on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before " jumping " up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

" Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's " hit list " . They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem " offensive " to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question... " what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you? "

and here was his response to me:

" The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one "

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like " retard " , confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be " guiding " younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 29, 2009

Heavyset man?

Jules

Romero

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 29, 2009

I couldn't tell because the pic is cropped. I could only see from mid torso up. From what I could see, he did look to be on the heavy side. He did not have glasses on.

Carolyn

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"The real winners in life are the people who look at every situation with an expectation that they can make it work or make it better."

~ Barbara Pletcher

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Hey DJ, better go back and get your facts and your people straight. :-)Carol in ILMom to , 8 DSMy problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, DJ Krug <djkrugymail> wrote:

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 29, 2009

Wow.. who confronted a well meaning Teen?

I am guessing you left the group DJ since your deleting anything from us.

But anyway...

One does not have to go "snooping" on FB or anywhere else. I have movies of my daughter on YouTube. You would not believe the comments I have gotten. One guy wanted to see her dead in a clown suit cause he thought it would be funny. For a long time I thought about keeping them private. But I will be damned if I hide.

Secondly.. if one does ANYTHING on face book.. you know.. like play games or take the stupid quizzes.. then one gets exposed to LOTS of different unsavory pics. Once while playing Knighthood I searched my list of villages to attack. And well.. obviously the guy who had the " I'm a retard" profile pic popped up. YEah.. I then clicked on his profile and then REPORTED him.

Does that make me a DS activist?? Well you know what I AM a DOWN SYNDROME activist.

I admit.. IF this guy is telling you the truth and he may be.. he is a cop. Then yeah.. Maybe they jumped the gun. Unfortunately the pic is not there anymore. Its been replaced by a pic of him I guess.

ON the other hand..if it was a really nasty pic then he should be called on the carpet for it. Even if HE thought it was funny.

I do however suggest.. that if you really can not stand people wanting a hate law for the word retard.. then you should find another list. Or maybe I should cause I would not want to be on a list that accepted racial slurs or other pejoratives.

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 29, 2009

DJ has left list, slightly before I could put on my thigh high leather boots and boot her out. Grrr.

Jules

Romero

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Wow.. who confronted a well meaning Teen?

I am guessing you left the group DJ since your deleting anything from us.

But anyway...

One does not have to go "snooping" on FB or anywhere else. I have movies of my daughter on YouTube. You would not believe the comments I have gotten. One guy wanted to see her dead in a clown suit cause he thought it would be funny. For a long time I thought about keeping them private. But I will be damned if I hide.

Secondly.. if one does ANYTHING on face book.. you know.. like play games or take the stupid quizzes.. then one gets exposed to LOTS of different unsavory pics. Once while playing Knighthood I searched my list of villages to attack. And well.. obviously the guy who had the " I'm a retard" profile pic popped up. YEah.. I then clicked on his profile and then REPORTED him.

Does that make me a DS activist?? Well you know what I AM a DOWN SYNDROME activist.

I admit.. IF this guy is telling you the truth and he may be.. he is a cop. Then yeah.. Maybe they jumped the gun. Unfortunately the pic is not there anymore. Its been replaced by a pic of him I guess.

ON the other hand..if it was a really nasty pic then he should be called on the carpet for it. Even if HE thought it was funny.

I do however suggest.. that if you really can not stand people wanting a hate law for the word retard.. then you should find another list. Or maybe I should cause I would not want to be on a list that accepted racial slurs or other pejoratives.

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that "asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB without knowing who you are or what your picture even means. Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or not to leave this DS group for good or not. I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem "offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists then you stir up a hornets nest. Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..."what does that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I am the offended one"

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or pass hate laws for words like "retard", confront well-meaning teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed to be "guiding" younger women or others who come here looking for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere. I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments constantly display the carlessness of their words and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 30, 2009

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Nolan-6

Phoebe Ds & Cf—4

From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Romero

Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009

9:46 PM

To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange

Subject: Re:

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

DJ has left list, slightly before I could

put on my thigh high leather boots and boot her out. Grrr.

Jules

Romero

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange]

Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Wow.. who confronted a well meaning Teen?

I am guessing you left the group DJ since your deleting

anything from us.

But anyway...

One does not have to go " snooping " on FB or

anywhere else. I have movies of my daughter on YouTube. You would not believe

the comments I have gotten. One guy wanted to see her dead in a clown suit

cause he thought it would be funny. For a long time I thought about keeping

them private. But I will be damned if I hide.

Secondly.. if one does ANYTHING on face book.. you know..

like play games or take the stupid quizzes.. then one gets exposed to LOTS of

different unsavory pics. Once while playing Knighthood I searched my list of

villages to attack. And well.. obviously the guy who had the " I'm a

retard " profile pic popped up. YEah.. I then clicked on his profile and

then REPORTED him.

Does that make me a DS activist?? Well you know what I AM

a DOWN SYNDROME activist.

I admit.. IF this guy is telling you the truth and he may

be.. he is a cop. Then yeah.. Maybe they jumped the gun. Unfortunately the

pic is not there anymore. Its been replaced by a pic of him I guess.

ON the other hand..if it was a really nasty pic then he

should be called on the carpet for it. Even if HE thought it was funny.

I do however suggest.. that if you really can not stand

people wanting a hate law for the word retard.. then you should find another

list. Or maybe I should cause I would not want to be on a list that accepted

racial slurs or other pejoratives.

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that

" asshole " on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because

nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that

matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a

difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some

deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your

original message about the " asshole " on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you

that before " jumping " up with you on those high horses

you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is

what I asked:

" Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down

Syndrome group that now has you on it's " hit list " . They think you

are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB

without knowing who you are or what your picture even means.

Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or

not to leave this DS group for good or not.

I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem

" offensive " to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists

then you stir up a hornets nest.

Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question... " what does

that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you? "

and here was his response to me:

" The person in my face book photo is a family

member of mine and I love him dearly. It gives him great pleasure to see his

picture listed in my profile. You need to get off your high horse and stop

thinking that everytime you see a person's picture with Downs Syndrome, that

someone is exploiting them for kicks. Oh! I also have a neice that is blind

and partially crippled since birth. I guess if I put her photo up on my

profile that would be considered offensive to you too. These are my family

members and we treat them like people and don't expect any special consideration

from society in catering to their needs. Do NOT message me anymore for now I

am the offended one "

I AM ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP

BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL. Ever since the politically correct

posts when I was trying to explain to you that we cannot as mothers and

citizens be on the offense for every person who looks at our children

wrong and be ready to campaign against or boycott businesses, movies or

pass hate laws for words like " retard " , confront well-meaning

teenagers or REPORT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK without careful consideration for

what the situation is or where we ourselves are REALLY

coming from. AND where the person on the other side is coming

from Each situation is different and it is not necessary to ALWAYS

have to be looking for a fight. But if you are looking for one....then

YOU WILL FIND ONE I guarantee.

In this case YOU WERE HORRIBLY WRONG and you must be

SOME KIND OF BUSY BODIES to be surfing on facebook looking for this

shit. Do you not have enough going on in your own lives to leave people

alone? That is simply PATHETIC. YOU are the kind of person I

stay far away from because trouble enevitable follows you. and YOU are

the reason that I cannot STOMACH being on this list anymore despite

any other beneficial information.

I agree with the man that HE should be the one

offended. In fact, YOU owe HIM an apology Carol for your ignorant

hatred and offensive comment toward someone YOU DONT EVEN

KNOW. SHAME ON YOU for agreeing with and egging her on

WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. You should IMMEDIATELY retract whatever

you reported from facebook and try this instead KEEP YOUR NOSE IN YOUR

OWN FUCKING BUSINESS FOR A CHANGE.

It is a bit comical that you women are supposed

to be " guiding " younger women or others who come here looking

for advice and support??????? I suggest they look elsewhere.

I only stayed on myself because of the ladies who emailed me

privately and understood what I meant before cutting MY head off for having

an opinion. I have remained silent until now because I wanted to

leave the door open for any beneficial information....but this

group is DOMINATED by DOWN SYNDROME ACTIVISTS whose comments

constantly display the carlessness of their words

and ignorance of their beliefs. I would caution everyone here to

be careful before taking health and medical advice from these people.

By the way, don't bother emailing me, I will

hit delete on anyone who emails me from this group. and I don't care

what your comments are, I know already they will be no good.

July 30, 2009

Yeah Jules!I kinda missed out on this thread, but did butt heads with DJ when she first joined this list.etteSubject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:Blast This Guy on FBTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 2:48 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Nolan-6 Phoebe Ds & Cfâ€”4

From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com ] On Behalf Of Romero

Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009

9:46 PM

To: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com

Subject: Re:

[DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

DJ has left list, slightly before I could

put on my thigh high leather boots and boot her out. Grrr.

Jules

Romero

-- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change]

Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Wow.. who confronted a well meaning Teen?

I am guessing you left the group DJ since your deleting

anything from us.

But anyway...

One does not have to go "snooping" on FB or

anywhere else. I have movies of my daughter on YouTube. You would not believe

the comments I have gotten. One guy wanted to see her dead in a clown suit

cause he thought it would be funny. For a long time I thought about keeping

them private. But I will be damned if I hide.

Secondly.. if one does ANYTHING on face book.. you know..

like play games or take the stupid quizzes.. then one gets exposed to LOTS of

different unsavory pics. Once while playing Knighthood I searched my list of

villages to attack. And well.. obviously the guy who had the " I'm a

retard" profile pic popped up. YEah.. I then clicked on his profile and

then REPORTED him.

Does that make me a DS activist?? Well you know what I AM

a DOWN SYNDROME activist.

I admit.. IF this guy is telling you the truth and he may

be.. he is a cop. Then yeah.. Maybe they jumped the gun. Unfortunately the

pic is not there anymore. Its been replaced by a pic of him I guess.

ON the other hand..if it was a really nasty pic then he

should be called on the carpet for it. Even if HE thought it was funny.

I do however suggest.. that if you really can not stand

people wanting a hate law for the word retard.. then you should find another

list. Or maybe I should cause I would not want to be on a list that accepted

racial slurs or other pejoratives.

[DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Re:Blast This Guy on FB

Carolyn and and anyone else ready to hang that

"asshole" on facebook,

I am sitting here not sure what to say to you because

nothing I could ever say on this matter (or on this list for that

matter) would A...get through your thick heads and B...make a

difference at all in the kind of people you are choosing to be without some

deep reflection on your own part.

But I feel it is my duty and PRIVELAGE to reply to your

original message about the "asshole" on facebook.

Before I say what I want to say, let me first tell you

that before "jumping" up with you on those high horses

you ride on, I decided to contact the man on facebook myself and this is

what I asked:

"Hi , you don't know me, but I am on a Down

Syndrome group that now has you on it's "hit list". They think you

are teasing people with Down Syndrome and are going to report you to FB

without knowing who you are or what your picture even means.

Can you be frank with me and tell me what it means? I need to know whether or

not to leave this DS group for good or not.

I have a little boy with DS too but your picture does not seem

"offensive" to me. But when you piss off a group of Down Syndrome activists

then you stir up a hornets nest.

Consider me a honey bee just asking a simple question..." what does

that picture mean to you if in fact it's not you?"

and here was his response to me:

"The person in my face book photo is a family