Re: confused

January 11, 2001

Hi Donna,

My baby is due in 3 months, and I've been pretty worried about whether it

might set Saskia back, so I was very encouraged when I read your words about

's reaction to being born - thank you!

Diane xx

> > Also , s behavior changed from really really bad to really good

when

> my son was born. Your daughter may be going thru alot of changes because

of

> the new baby . Can she talk?? does not show signs of pain either.

She

> has not slept in two days and alot of noisey vocals and hand flapping .

Last

> night she put some destin (white) on her fore head , then I knew she had

a

> headache. I gave her tylenol. This morning she is still flapping nonstop

so

> I am going to take her to the doctor today. Hang in there , Donna ( mom

to

> 15 autism and 8 )

> -----------------------------------------------------

January 16, 2001

Diane , you will feel like you are letting Saskia down at the beginning but

I promise it gets better with each pasting day. I thought I was not giving

enough time and attention but then I noticed how she would love to get

a bottle ,diaper ,etc. and I made that time (she and I caring for

) our time together. Something just between me and you , I really

believed I could not love as much as I love , and bam! My

mother said that I would love both children the same and I just did not

believe that possible. But ,my mom was right, I love and the

same .And both are spoiled rotten!!! lol Donna

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Re: confused

> Hi Donna,

>

> I'm so pleased to hear how well and get on. Saskia will be 4

> at the end of this month and has been doing really well recently, mainly I

> think because her language has taken off, so she can communicate with us

> more and make her needs understood. I am just worried that I won't be

able

> to give her so much of my time when the baby arrives, but it's wonderful

to

> hear how well things have turned out for since you had .

>

> Diane xx

>

> > really did a 360 turn when was born , How old is Saskia ??

> > has taught more than I ever could. One of the hardest

things

> > for me was to get her to sit down to eat at the table and not throw food

> > everywhere. is a slow eater and she would watch him sitting in

his

> > high chair eating ,As soon as he began eating with a spoon she started.

To

> > this day she watches how he eats , Thank God he is a neat eater!!! And

> > Congraulations on your new BABY!!! Please let me know when the wonderful

> > event happens!!!! Sincerely, Donna

> > -----------------------------------------------------

>

January 16, 2001

Diane , you will feel like you are letting Saskia down at the beginning but

I promise it gets better with each pasting day. I thought I was not giving

enough time and attention but then I noticed how she would love to get

a bottle ,diaper ,etc. and I made that time (she and I caring for

) our time together. Something just between me and you , I really

believed I could not love as much as I love , and bam! My

mother said that I would love both children the same and I just did not

believe that possible. But ,my mom was right, I love and the

same .And both are spoiled rotten!!! lol Donna

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Re: confused

> Hi Donna,

>

> I'm so pleased to hear how well and get on. Saskia will be 4

> at the end of this month and has been doing really well recently, mainly I

> think because her language has taken off, so she can communicate with us

> more and make her needs understood. I am just worried that I won't be

able

> to give her so much of my time when the baby arrives, but it's wonderful

to

> hear how well things have turned out for since you had .

>

> Diane xx

>

> > really did a 360 turn when was born , How old is Saskia ??

> > has taught more than I ever could. One of the hardest

things

> > for me was to get her to sit down to eat at the table and not throw food

> > everywhere. is a slow eater and she would watch him sitting in

his

> > high chair eating ,As soon as he began eating with a spoon she started.

To

> > this day she watches how he eats , Thank God he is a neat eater!!! And

> > Congraulations on your new BABY!!! Please let me know when the wonderful

> > event happens!!!! Sincerely, Donna

> > -----------------------------------------------------

>

January 16, 2001

i am reading your emails. i envy both of you and the fact that you have more than one child. you see we adopted alina at age 3 from an orphanage-brought her home and found out she had institutionlized autism. she is a beautiful girl and a gentle spirit and we love her so. the only thing we can not give her now is another brother or sister. i cannot have children physically and we are at an age now in our late 40's to really consider adopting another child and financially we cannot. so all i am saying is bless your families and be thankful that your children are not "only child" it really makes a difference and there are things that you cannot show or teach your austic child that they learn from just being around their siblings. oh,,,, how is wish alina had another sibling to interact with. i just wanted to say hello to you both and i am still reading emails everyday. i really enjoy all these because it helps me not feel so isolated from everone. thanks. alina is home from school today with fever of 103.3 and sore throat. her sibs escalate some when she runs a fever and sick but i want to share with everyone what her psychiatrist recommended. GIVE CHILDRENS TYLENOL SUSPENSION (the suspension works much better at calming & relaxing than regular tylenol) i find this works great and instead of plain tylenol or advil i always give her the SUSPENSION and she feels much better. ~heidi~ Re: confused> Hi Donna,>> I'm so pleased to hear how well and get on. Saskia will be 4> at the end of this month and has been doing really well recently, mainly I> think because her language has taken off, so she can communicate with us> more and make her needs understood. I am just worried that I won't beable> to give her so much of my time when the baby arrives, but it's wonderfulto> hear how well things have turned out for since you had .>> Diane xx>> > really did a 360 turn when was born , How old is Saskia ??> > has taught more than I ever could. One of the hardestthings> > for me was to get her to sit down to eat at the table and not throw food> > everywhere. is a slow eater and she would watch him sitting inhis> > high chair eating ,As soon as he began eating with a spoon she started.To> > this day she watches how he eats , Thank God he is a neat eater!!! And> > Congraulations on your new BABY!!! Please let me know when the wonderful> > event happens!!!! Sincerely, Donna> > ----------------------------------------------------->>>>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

January 16, 2001

i am reading your emails. i envy both of you and the fact that you have more than one child. you see we adopted alina at age 3 from an orphanage-brought her home and found out she had institutionlized autism. she is a beautiful girl and a gentle spirit and we love her so. the only thing we can not give her now is another brother or sister. i cannot have children physically and we are at an age now in our late 40's to really consider adopting another child and financially we cannot. so all i am saying is bless your families and be thankful that your children are not "only child" it really makes a difference and there are things that you cannot show or teach your austic child that they learn from just being around their siblings. oh,,,, how is wish alina had another sibling to interact with. i just wanted to say hello to you both and i am still reading emails everyday. i really enjoy all these because it helps me not feel so isolated from everone. thanks. alina is home from school today with fever of 103.3 and sore throat. her sibs escalate some when she runs a fever and sick but i want to share with everyone what her psychiatrist recommended. GIVE CHILDRENS TYLENOL SUSPENSION (the suspension works much better at calming & relaxing than regular tylenol) i find this works great and instead of plain tylenol or advil i always give her the SUSPENSION and she feels much better. ~heidi~ Re: confused> Hi Donna,>> I'm so pleased to hear how well and get on. Saskia will be 4> at the end of this month and has been doing really well recently, mainly I> think because her language has taken off, so she can communicate with us> more and make her needs understood. I am just worried that I won't beable> to give her so much of my time when the baby arrives, but it's wonderfulto> hear how well things have turned out for since you had .>> Diane xx>> > really did a 360 turn when was born , How old is Saskia ??> > has taught more than I ever could. One of the hardestthings> > for me was to get her to sit down to eat at the table and not throw food> > everywhere. is a slow eater and she would watch him sitting inhis> > high chair eating ,As soon as he began eating with a spoon she started.To> > this day she watches how he eats , Thank God he is a neat eater!!! And> > Congraulations on your new BABY!!! Please let me know when the wonderful> > event happens!!!! Sincerely, Donna> > ----------------------------------------------------->>>>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

January 16, 2001

i am reading your emails. i envy both of you and the fact that you have more than one child. you see we adopted alina at age 3 from an orphanage-brought her home and found out she had institutionlized autism. she is a beautiful girl and a gentle spirit and we love her so. the only thing we can not give her now is another brother or sister. i cannot have children physically and we are at an age now in our late 40's to really consider adopting another child and financially we cannot. so all i am saying is bless your families and be thankful that your children are not "only child" it really makes a difference and there are things that you cannot show or teach your austic child that they learn from just being around their siblings. oh,,,, how is wish alina had another sibling to interact with. i just wanted to say hello to you both and i am still reading emails everyday. i really enjoy all these because it helps me not feel so isolated from everone. thanks. alina is home from school today with fever of 103.3 and sore throat. her sibs escalate some when she runs a fever and sick but i want to share with everyone what her psychiatrist recommended. GIVE CHILDRENS TYLENOL SUSPENSION (the suspension works much better at calming & relaxing than regular tylenol) i find this works great and instead of plain tylenol or advil i always give her the SUSPENSION and she feels much better. ~heidi~ Re: confused> Hi Donna,>> I'm so pleased to hear how well and get on. Saskia will be 4> at the end of this month and has been doing really well recently, mainly I> think because her language has taken off, so she can communicate with us> more and make her needs understood. I am just worried that I won't beable> to give her so much of my time when the baby arrives, but it's wonderfulto> hear how well things have turned out for since you had .>> Diane xx>> > really did a 360 turn when was born , How old is Saskia ??> > has taught more than I ever could. One of the hardestthings> > for me was to get her to sit down to eat at the table and not throw food> > everywhere. is a slow eater and she would watch him sitting inhis> > high chair eating ,As soon as he began eating with a spoon she started.To> > this day she watches how he eats , Thank God he is a neat eater!!! And> > Congraulations on your new BABY!!! Please let me know when the wonderful> > event happens!!!! Sincerely, Donna> > ----------------------------------------------------->>>>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

January 17, 2001

Heidi, I used suspension for when she was little , I too think it is better than the regular stuff! I hope Alina is better soon. also is much worse when she is sick, mainly I think because she can not tell me she is sick. I enjoy you and the others on this list ,I feel comfort from having someone to share my feelings with and not be judged or put down for it. I am sorry you can't have anymore babies, I do understand , There is 7 years difference in and and I was not suppose to have any babies at all we tried for over 5 years before was born. You are in my heart and my prayers Heidi. Sincerely , Donna

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Re: confused> Hi Donna,>> I'm so pleased to hear how well and get on. Saskia will be 4> at the end of this month and has been doing really well recently, mainly I> think because her language has taken off, so she can communicate with us> more and make her needs understood. I am just worried that I won't beable> to give her so much of my time when the baby arrives, but it's wonderfulto> hear how well things have turned out for since you had .>> Diane xx>> > really did a 360 turn when was born , How old is Saskia ??> > has taught more than I ever could. One of the hardestthings> > for me was to get her to sit down to eat at the table and not throw food> > everywhere. is a slow eater and she would watch him sitting inhis> > high chair eating ,As soon as he began eating with a spoon she started.To> > this day she watches how he eats , Thank God he is a neat eater!!! And> > Congraulations on your new BABY!!! Please let me know when the wonderful> > event happens!!!! Sincerely, Donna> > ----------------------------------------------------->>>>>

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January 17, 2001

Heidi, I used suspension for when she was little , I too think it is better than the regular stuff! I hope Alina is better soon. also is much worse when she is sick, mainly I think because she can not tell me she is sick. I enjoy you and the others on this list ,I feel comfort from having someone to share my feelings with and not be judged or put down for it. I am sorry you can't have anymore babies, I do understand , There is 7 years difference in and and I was not suppose to have any babies at all we tried for over 5 years before was born. You are in my heart and my prayers Heidi. Sincerely , Donna

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Re: confused> Hi Donna,>> I'm so pleased to hear how well and get on. Saskia will be 4> at the end of this month and has been doing really well recently, mainly I> think because her language has taken off, so she can communicate with us> more and make her needs understood. I am just worried that I won't beable> to give her so much of my time when the baby arrives, but it's wonderfulto> hear how well things have turned out for since you had .>> Diane xx>> > really did a 360 turn when was born , How old is Saskia ??> > has taught more than I ever could. One of the hardestthings> > for me was to get her to sit down to eat at the table and not throw food> > everywhere. is a slow eater and she would watch him sitting inhis> > high chair eating ,As soon as he began eating with a spoon she started.To> > this day she watches how he eats , Thank God he is a neat eater!!! And> > Congraulations on your new BABY!!! Please let me know when the wonderful> > event happens!!!! Sincerely, Donna> > ----------------------------------------------------->>>>>

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January 17, 2001

Heidi, I used suspension for when she was little , I too think it is better than the regular stuff! I hope Alina is better soon. also is much worse when she is sick, mainly I think because she can not tell me she is sick. I enjoy you and the others on this list ,I feel comfort from having someone to share my feelings with and not be judged or put down for it. I am sorry you can't have anymore babies, I do understand , There is 7 years difference in and and I was not suppose to have any babies at all we tried for over 5 years before was born. You are in my heart and my prayers Heidi. Sincerely , Donna

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Re: confused> Hi Donna,>> I'm so pleased to hear how well and get on. Saskia will be 4> at the end of this month and has been doing really well recently, mainly I> think because her language has taken off, so she can communicate with us> more and make her needs understood. I am just worried that I won't beable> to give her so much of my time when the baby arrives, but it's wonderfulto> hear how well things have turned out for since you had .>> Diane xx>> > really did a 360 turn when was born , How old is Saskia ??> > has taught more than I ever could. One of the hardestthings> > for me was to get her to sit down to eat at the table and not throw food> > everywhere. is a slow eater and she would watch him sitting inhis> > high chair eating ,As soon as he began eating with a spoon she started.To> > this day she watches how he eats , Thank God he is a neat eater!!! And> > Congraulations on your new BABY!!! Please let me know when the wonderful> > event happens!!!! Sincerely, Donna> > ----------------------------------------------------->>>>>

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March 6, 2003

It has been a long day and I just read an email from Ann and it said to Angie and all. I don't know where I have been lately but there is another Angie on this site aside from myself. I will start to sign things Angie Z. so it isn't so confusing. I have to admit it isn't to hard to do that to me these days.

Angie Z.

Yup, I'm Angie~ and I too walk around in a fog.

Angie~

November 29, 2006

>I trust that answers to this post will clarify something I am very

>confused about. My KT does not brew with fizz. I have read often about

>brews that do have fizz. Fizz as I understand it is produced by

>yeast. Recent posts have stressed the importance of having bacteria and

>yeast in balance. If there is enough yeast in a brew to produce fizz,

>isn't that a problem regarding the bacteria/yeast balance??

>Thanks -

>Lawrence

Not typically. For most people, brewing in the open vessel creates an

effervescence, a light carbonation. To get real carbonation, a secondary

fermentation is necessary. But to create the carbonation, the yeast must

have food, so the KT must be bottled when it has still a little sugar left

in (when it tastes a bit too sweet).

I once did have trouble with not enough yeast activity, but that was when I

used starter from a " starter pot " ... a jar with extra SCOBYs in, into which

only mature KT is ever added and never any fresh sweetened tea. This

starves out the yeast. I found that was too radical for my brews. So if

that is how you are getting your starter, yes, that could be the problem.

But if you are taking your starter from your brews and not getting fizz, it

probably more about how you are handling secondary fermentation, if indeed

you are. How long have you been brewing? Do you have any effervescence in

the vessel? Have you been doing secondary?

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

December 2, 2007

I'm not sure what independent body would have much knowledge to be able to help you with much information about this topic. I am independent in the sense that I distribute equipment and software from various sources and don't work for--am not a part of--any specific organization. You are welcome to take a look at the webiste www.brain-trainer.com, if you haven't already seen it, to get a sense off what we are about.

I'm not sure that I'll suggest the same 2 things you've previously been advised to look into--or perhaps offer another alternative. But I'll me happy to speak with you and give you my thoughts. I am not a clinician, but I set up and ran a very successful brain training program in Atlanta (4 offices) from 1992 to 2001. For the past 5 years I've taught professional and lay trainers in workshops all over the world and throughout the US. I've trained hundreds of clients and assessed well over a thousand. We developed and operated a successful home training program in 1998 (when the first inexpensive 2-channel amplifiers became available). I've taught hundreds of people ranging from MD's and Ph.D.'s to home trainers like you are seeking to become. Brain-trainer is one of the few places of which I'm aware where a non-clinician can actually purchase equipment and software and participate in training side-by-side with professionals.

You can buy from brain-trainer (we are the only site I know of that discounts prices of this equipment and software) or from any source you choose. You can take my advice or completely ignore it. It won't make a huge difference to me either way. I am more than happy though to help you get off to a solid, informed start.

The number you sent in your other e-mail was, I assume, a phone number, but I'm not sure where it is (what time zone you are in) and what day/time would be best for you to speak.

If you are interested, please let me know some options, and I'll give you a ring.

Pete

Hi I'm looking for advice from an independent bodybasically I'm interested in buying equipment that would allow me to administer biofeedback sessions from home on my own (i have a concentration problem)

there are 2 things that Ive been advised to look into and i don't know which one would better suit my needs, i want something easy (uncomplicated) that will allow me to train to become more focused,i would greatly appreciate it if you can either advise me or direct to me to an independent reputable source for advicethanks againLeib Heller

.. -- Van Deusen

pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

December 2, 2007

I'm not sure what independent body would have much knowledge to be able to help you with much information about this topic. I am independent in the sense that I distribute equipment and software from various sources and don't work for--am not a part of--any specific organization. You are welcome to take a look at the webiste www.brain-trainer.com, if you haven't already seen it, to get a sense off what we are about.

I'm not sure that I'll suggest the same 2 things you've previously been advised to look into--or perhaps offer another alternative. But I'll me happy to speak with you and give you my thoughts. I am not a clinician, but I set up and ran a very successful brain training program in Atlanta (4 offices) from 1992 to 2001. For the past 5 years I've taught professional and lay trainers in workshops all over the world and throughout the US. I've trained hundreds of clients and assessed well over a thousand. We developed and operated a successful home training program in 1998 (when the first inexpensive 2-channel amplifiers became available). I've taught hundreds of people ranging from MD's and Ph.D.'s to home trainers like you are seeking to become. Brain-trainer is one of the few places of which I'm aware where a non-clinician can actually purchase equipment and software and participate in training side-by-side with professionals.

You can buy from brain-trainer (we are the only site I know of that discounts prices of this equipment and software) or from any source you choose. You can take my advice or completely ignore it. It won't make a huge difference to me either way. I am more than happy though to help you get off to a solid, informed start.

The number you sent in your other e-mail was, I assume, a phone number, but I'm not sure where it is (what time zone you are in) and what day/time would be best for you to speak.

If you are interested, please let me know some options, and I'll give you a ring.

Pete

Hi I'm looking for advice from an independent bodybasically I'm interested in buying equipment that would allow me to administer biofeedback sessions from home on my own (i have a concentration problem)

there are 2 things that Ive been advised to look into and i don't know which one would better suit my needs, i want something easy (uncomplicated) that will allow me to train to become more focused,i would greatly appreciate it if you can either advise me or direct to me to an independent reputable source for advicethanks againLeib Heller

.. -- Van Deusen

pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

December 3, 2007

Hi its all too confusing for me, so far I've seen 3 thins one is a pendant http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 the other is 'playattention' which looks very impresive i've also been advised to look into pRoshi, but i think im not equiped to decide on any of this, basically, i want something which allows me to press one button and immediately enter a session that will help me with attention and /or meditative states, i'd rather not have to go through extensive training etc. with the pendant I'm afraid that it will take me ages to figure out which frequency is best for me etc. also i would prefer games on the screen as opposed to brain

patterns, i also want something that my 7 year old son can benefit from... sorry for being difficult but i do want to make sure that i get the right thing thanks again, Leib. http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 Van Deusen wrote: I'm not sure what independent body would have much knowledge to be able to help you with much information about this topic. I am independent in the sense that I distribute equipment and software from various sources and don't work for--am not a part of--any specific organization. You are welcome to take a look at the webiste www.brain-trainer.com, if you haven't already seen it, to get a sense off what we are about. I'm not sure that I'll suggest the same 2 things you've previously been advised to look into--or perhaps offer another alternative. But I'll me happy to speak with you and give you my thoughts. I am not a clinician, but I set up and ran a very successful brain training program in Atlanta (4

offices) from 1992 to 2001. For the past 5 years I've taught professional and lay trainers in workshops all over the world and throughout the US. I've trained hundreds of clients and assessed well over a thousand. We developed and operated a successful home training program in 1998 (when the first inexpensive 2-channel amplifiers became available). I've taught hundreds of people ranging from MD's and Ph.D.'s to home trainers like you are seeking to become. Brain-trainer is one of the few places of which I'm aware where a non-clinician can actually purchase equipment and software and participate in training side-by-side with professionals. You can buy from brain-trainer (we are the only site I know of that discounts prices of this equipment and software) or from any source you choose. You can take my advice or completely ignore it. It won't make a huge difference to me either way. I am more than happy

though to help you get off to a solid, informed start. The number you sent in your other e-mail was, I assume, a phone number, but I'm not sure where it is (what time zone you are in) and what day/time would be best for you to speak. If you are interested, please let me know some options, and I'll give you a ring. Pete On Dec 2, 2007 7:41 PM, Rabbi Heller <rabbiheller> wrote: Hi I'm looking for advice from an independent bodybasically I'm interested in buying equipment that would allow me to administer biofeedback sessions from home on my own (i have a concentration problem) there are 2 things that Ive been

advised to look into and i don't know which one would better suit my needs, i want something easy (uncomplicated) that will allow me to train to become more focused,i would greatly appreciate it if you can either advise me or direct to me to an independent reputable source for advicethanks againLeib Heller . -- Van Deusenpvdtlcgmail http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

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December 3, 2007

Hi its all too confusing for me, so far I've seen 3 thins one is a pendant http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 the other is 'playattention' which looks very impresive i've also been advised to look into pRoshi, but i think im not equiped to decide on any of this, basically, i want something which allows me to press one button and immediately enter a session that will help me with attention and /or meditative states, i'd rather not have to go through extensive training etc. with the pendant I'm afraid that it will take me ages to figure out which frequency is best for me etc. also i would prefer games on the screen as opposed to brain

patterns, i also want something that my 7 year old son can benefit from... sorry for being difficult but i do want to make sure that i get the right thing thanks again, Leib. http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 Van Deusen wrote: I'm not sure what independent body would have much knowledge to be able to help you with much information about this topic. I am independent in the sense that I distribute equipment and software from various sources and don't work for--am not a part of--any specific organization. You are welcome to take a look at the webiste www.brain-trainer.com, if you haven't already seen it, to get a sense off what we are about. I'm not sure that I'll suggest the same 2 things you've previously been advised to look into--or perhaps offer another alternative. But I'll me happy to speak with you and give you my thoughts. I am not a clinician, but I set up and ran a very successful brain training program in Atlanta (4

offices) from 1992 to 2001. For the past 5 years I've taught professional and lay trainers in workshops all over the world and throughout the US. I've trained hundreds of clients and assessed well over a thousand. We developed and operated a successful home training program in 1998 (when the first inexpensive 2-channel amplifiers became available). I've taught hundreds of people ranging from MD's and Ph.D.'s to home trainers like you are seeking to become. Brain-trainer is one of the few places of which I'm aware where a non-clinician can actually purchase equipment and software and participate in training side-by-side with professionals. You can buy from brain-trainer (we are the only site I know of that discounts prices of this equipment and software) or from any source you choose. You can take my advice or completely ignore it. It won't make a huge difference to me either way. I am more than happy

though to help you get off to a solid, informed start. The number you sent in your other e-mail was, I assume, a phone number, but I'm not sure where it is (what time zone you are in) and what day/time would be best for you to speak. If you are interested, please let me know some options, and I'll give you a ring. Pete On Dec 2, 2007 7:41 PM, Rabbi Heller <rabbiheller> wrote: Hi I'm looking for advice from an independent bodybasically I'm interested in buying equipment that would allow me to administer biofeedback sessions from home on my own (i have a concentration problem) there are 2 things that Ive been

advised to look into and i don't know which one would better suit my needs, i want something easy (uncomplicated) that will allow me to train to become more focused,i would greatly appreciate it if you can either advise me or direct to me to an independent reputable source for advicethanks againLeib Heller . -- Van Deusenpvdtlcgmail http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

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December 3, 2007

Hi its all too confusing for me, so far I've seen 3 thins one is a pendant http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 the other is 'playattention' which looks very impresive i've also been advised to look into pRoshi, but i think im not equiped to decide on any of this, basically, i want something which allows me to press one button and immediately enter a session that will help me with attention and /or meditative states, i'd rather not have to go through extensive training etc. with the pendant I'm afraid that it will take me ages to figure out which frequency is best for me etc. also i would prefer games on the screen as opposed to brain

patterns, i also want something that my 7 year old son can benefit from... sorry for being difficult but i do want to make sure that i get the right thing thanks again, Leib. http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 Van Deusen wrote: I'm not sure what independent body would have much knowledge to be able to help you with much information about this topic. I am independent in the sense that I distribute equipment and software from various sources and don't work for--am not a part of--any specific organization. You are welcome to take a look at the webiste www.brain-trainer.com, if you haven't already seen it, to get a sense off what we are about. I'm not sure that I'll suggest the same 2 things you've previously been advised to look into--or perhaps offer another alternative. But I'll me happy to speak with you and give you my thoughts. I am not a clinician, but I set up and ran a very successful brain training program in Atlanta (4

offices) from 1992 to 2001. For the past 5 years I've taught professional and lay trainers in workshops all over the world and throughout the US. I've trained hundreds of clients and assessed well over a thousand. We developed and operated a successful home training program in 1998 (when the first inexpensive 2-channel amplifiers became available). I've taught hundreds of people ranging from MD's and Ph.D.'s to home trainers like you are seeking to become. Brain-trainer is one of the few places of which I'm aware where a non-clinician can actually purchase equipment and software and participate in training side-by-side with professionals. You can buy from brain-trainer (we are the only site I know of that discounts prices of this equipment and software) or from any source you choose. You can take my advice or completely ignore it. It won't make a huge difference to me either way. I am more than happy

though to help you get off to a solid, informed start. The number you sent in your other e-mail was, I assume, a phone number, but I'm not sure where it is (what time zone you are in) and what day/time would be best for you to speak. If you are interested, please let me know some options, and I'll give you a ring. Pete On Dec 2, 2007 7:41 PM, Rabbi Heller <rabbiheller> wrote: Hi I'm looking for advice from an independent bodybasically I'm interested in buying equipment that would allow me to administer biofeedback sessions from home on my own (i have a concentration problem) there are 2 things that Ive been

advised to look into and i don't know which one would better suit my needs, i want something easy (uncomplicated) that will allow me to train to become more focused,i would greatly appreciate it if you can either advise me or direct to me to an independent reputable source for advicethanks againLeib Heller . -- Van Deusenpvdtlcgmail http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

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December 3, 2007

Leib,

You have 3 very different options there.

The Pendant (with BioExplorer software and some electrodes) will cost you about $1,050 with shipping, and it will be able to do any kind of training for any kind of brain activation targets you are ever likely to want to do. But the hope that you can start messing around with your (and others') brains without having to know anything about the brain or the technology is perhaps a bit naive (we can all HOPE, can't we?)

The other two options are, indeed, one-size-fits-all options, and that is exactly their attraction. PlayAttention has a very slick website (except it's almost impossible to find out how much it costs or how exactly it works.) It is a helmet with saline electrodes, so it should be quite easy to use. It uses some classic training protocols (where the electrodes are reading and what frequencies they are training), which have been proven over a number of years to work with 60-70% of people who have attention or impulse control problems. If it works, it will be a great solution, so it may well be worth taking a flier on it, since you won't really have to learn anything.

The pROSHI is a $2000 item that doesn't even look at the EEG. It simply uses flashing light patterns to entrain the brain and try to move it. I know many people who love it, but I don't know of anyone who says that it actually resulted in any kind of lasting change in brain funtion. If you use it daily, you'll have results--as long as you keep using it. Most people I know are using it prior to a neurofeedback session, because it " loosens up " the brain and makes it easier to train. I also have the clear sense that it is much more useful with people who have excessive activity in their brains--too fast, anxious, compulsive, etc.--rather than those who have too little--inattentive, etc.

Good luck.

Pete

Hi

its all too confusing for me, so far I've seen 3 thins one is a pendant

http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 the other is 'playattention' which looks very impresive i've also been advised to look into pRoshi, but i think im not equiped to decide on any of this, basically, i want something which allows me to press one button and immediately enter a session that will help me with attention and /or meditative states, i'd rather not have to go through extensive training etc.

with the pendant I'm afraid that it will take me ages to figure out which frequency is best for me etc. also i would prefer games on the screen as opposed to brain patterns,

i also want something that my 7 year old son can benefit from...

sorry for being difficult but i do want to make sure that i get the right thing

thanks again,

Leib.

http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11

Van Deusen wrote:

I'm not sure what independent body would have much knowledge to be able to help you with much information about this topic. I am independent in the sense that I distribute equipment and software from various sources and don't work for--am not a part of--any specific organization. You are welcome to take a look at the webiste www.brain-trainer.com, if you haven't already seen it, to get a sense off what we are about.

I'm not sure that I'll suggest the same 2 things you've previously been advised to look into--or perhaps offer another alternative. But I'll me happy to speak with you and give you my thoughts. I am not a clinician, but I set up and ran a very successful brain training program in Atlanta (4 offices) from 1992 to 2001. For the past 5 years I've taught professional and lay trainers in workshops all over the world and throughout the US. I've trained hundreds of clients and assessed well over a thousand. We developed and operated a successful home training program in 1998 (when the first inexpensive 2-channel amplifiers became available). I've taught hundreds of people ranging from MD's and Ph.D.'s to home trainers like you are seeking to become. Brain-trainer is one of the few places of which I'm aware where a non-clinician can actually purchase equipment and software and participate in training side-by-side with professionals.

You can buy from brain-trainer (we are the only site I know of that discounts prices of this equipment and software) or from any source you choose. You can take my advice or completely ignore it. It won't make a huge difference to me either way. I am more than happy though to help you get off to a solid, informed start.

The number you sent in your other e-mail was, I assume, a phone number, but I'm not sure where it is (what time zone you are in) and what day/time would be best for you to speak.

If you are interested, please let me know some options, and I'll give you a ring.

Pete

Hi I'm looking for advice from an independent bodybasically I'm interested in buying equipment that would allow me to administer biofeedback sessions from home on my own (i have a concentration problem) there are 2 things that Ive been advised to look into and i don't know which one would better suit my needs, i want something easy (uncomplicated) that will allow me to train to become more focused,i would greatly appreciate it if you can either advise me or direct to me to an independent reputable source for advicethanks againLeib Heller

.. -- Van Deusen

pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

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-- Van Deusen

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December 3, 2007

Leib,

You have 3 very different options there.

The Pendant (with BioExplorer software and some electrodes) will cost you about $1,050 with shipping, and it will be able to do any kind of training for any kind of brain activation targets you are ever likely to want to do. But the hope that you can start messing around with your (and others') brains without having to know anything about the brain or the technology is perhaps a bit naive (we can all HOPE, can't we?)

The other two options are, indeed, one-size-fits-all options, and that is exactly their attraction. PlayAttention has a very slick website (except it's almost impossible to find out how much it costs or how exactly it works.) It is a helmet with saline electrodes, so it should be quite easy to use. It uses some classic training protocols (where the electrodes are reading and what frequencies they are training), which have been proven over a number of years to work with 60-70% of people who have attention or impulse control problems. If it works, it will be a great solution, so it may well be worth taking a flier on it, since you won't really have to learn anything.

The pROSHI is a $2000 item that doesn't even look at the EEG. It simply uses flashing light patterns to entrain the brain and try to move it. I know many people who love it, but I don't know of anyone who says that it actually resulted in any kind of lasting change in brain funtion. If you use it daily, you'll have results--as long as you keep using it. Most people I know are using it prior to a neurofeedback session, because it " loosens up " the brain and makes it easier to train. I also have the clear sense that it is much more useful with people who have excessive activity in their brains--too fast, anxious, compulsive, etc.--rather than those who have too little--inattentive, etc.

Good luck.

Pete

Hi

its all too confusing for me, so far I've seen 3 thins one is a pendant

http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 the other is 'playattention' which looks very impresive i've also been advised to look into pRoshi, but i think im not equiped to decide on any of this, basically, i want something which allows me to press one button and immediately enter a session that will help me with attention and /or meditative states, i'd rather not have to go through extensive training etc.

with the pendant I'm afraid that it will take me ages to figure out which frequency is best for me etc. also i would prefer games on the screen as opposed to brain patterns,

i also want something that my 7 year old son can benefit from...

sorry for being difficult but i do want to make sure that i get the right thing

thanks again,

Leib.

http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11

Van Deusen wrote:

I'm not sure what independent body would have much knowledge to be able to help you with much information about this topic. I am independent in the sense that I distribute equipment and software from various sources and don't work for--am not a part of--any specific organization. You are welcome to take a look at the webiste www.brain-trainer.com, if you haven't already seen it, to get a sense off what we are about.

I'm not sure that I'll suggest the same 2 things you've previously been advised to look into--or perhaps offer another alternative. But I'll me happy to speak with you and give you my thoughts. I am not a clinician, but I set up and ran a very successful brain training program in Atlanta (4 offices) from 1992 to 2001. For the past 5 years I've taught professional and lay trainers in workshops all over the world and throughout the US. I've trained hundreds of clients and assessed well over a thousand. We developed and operated a successful home training program in 1998 (when the first inexpensive 2-channel amplifiers became available). I've taught hundreds of people ranging from MD's and Ph.D.'s to home trainers like you are seeking to become. Brain-trainer is one of the few places of which I'm aware where a non-clinician can actually purchase equipment and software and participate in training side-by-side with professionals.

You can buy from brain-trainer (we are the only site I know of that discounts prices of this equipment and software) or from any source you choose. You can take my advice or completely ignore it. It won't make a huge difference to me either way. I am more than happy though to help you get off to a solid, informed start.

The number you sent in your other e-mail was, I assume, a phone number, but I'm not sure where it is (what time zone you are in) and what day/time would be best for you to speak.

If you are interested, please let me know some options, and I'll give you a ring.

Pete

Hi I'm looking for advice from an independent bodybasically I'm interested in buying equipment that would allow me to administer biofeedback sessions from home on my own (i have a concentration problem) there are 2 things that Ive been advised to look into and i don't know which one would better suit my needs, i want something easy (uncomplicated) that will allow me to train to become more focused,i would greatly appreciate it if you can either advise me or direct to me to an independent reputable source for advicethanks againLeib Heller

.. -- Van Deusen

pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.

-- Van Deusen

pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

December 3, 2007

Leib,

You have 3 very different options there.

The Pendant (with BioExplorer software and some electrodes) will cost you about $1,050 with shipping, and it will be able to do any kind of training for any kind of brain activation targets you are ever likely to want to do. But the hope that you can start messing around with your (and others') brains without having to know anything about the brain or the technology is perhaps a bit naive (we can all HOPE, can't we?)

The other two options are, indeed, one-size-fits-all options, and that is exactly their attraction. PlayAttention has a very slick website (except it's almost impossible to find out how much it costs or how exactly it works.) It is a helmet with saline electrodes, so it should be quite easy to use. It uses some classic training protocols (where the electrodes are reading and what frequencies they are training), which have been proven over a number of years to work with 60-70% of people who have attention or impulse control problems. If it works, it will be a great solution, so it may well be worth taking a flier on it, since you won't really have to learn anything.

The pROSHI is a $2000 item that doesn't even look at the EEG. It simply uses flashing light patterns to entrain the brain and try to move it. I know many people who love it, but I don't know of anyone who says that it actually resulted in any kind of lasting change in brain funtion. If you use it daily, you'll have results--as long as you keep using it. Most people I know are using it prior to a neurofeedback session, because it " loosens up " the brain and makes it easier to train. I also have the clear sense that it is much more useful with people who have excessive activity in their brains--too fast, anxious, compulsive, etc.--rather than those who have too little--inattentive, etc.

Good luck.

Pete

Hi

its all too confusing for me, so far I've seen 3 thins one is a pendant

http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 the other is 'playattention' which looks very impresive i've also been advised to look into pRoshi, but i think im not equiped to decide on any of this, basically, i want something which allows me to press one button and immediately enter a session that will help me with attention and /or meditative states, i'd rather not have to go through extensive training etc.

with the pendant I'm afraid that it will take me ages to figure out which frequency is best for me etc. also i would prefer games on the screen as opposed to brain patterns,

i also want something that my 7 year old son can benefit from...

sorry for being difficult but i do want to make sure that i get the right thing

thanks again,

Leib.

http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11

Van Deusen wrote:

I'm not sure what independent body would have much knowledge to be able to help you with much information about this topic. I am independent in the sense that I distribute equipment and software from various sources and don't work for--am not a part of--any specific organization. You are welcome to take a look at the webiste www.brain-trainer.com, if you haven't already seen it, to get a sense off what we are about.

I'm not sure that I'll suggest the same 2 things you've previously been advised to look into--or perhaps offer another alternative. But I'll me happy to speak with you and give you my thoughts. I am not a clinician, but I set up and ran a very successful brain training program in Atlanta (4 offices) from 1992 to 2001. For the past 5 years I've taught professional and lay trainers in workshops all over the world and throughout the US. I've trained hundreds of clients and assessed well over a thousand. We developed and operated a successful home training program in 1998 (when the first inexpensive 2-channel amplifiers became available). I've taught hundreds of people ranging from MD's and Ph.D.'s to home trainers like you are seeking to become. Brain-trainer is one of the few places of which I'm aware where a non-clinician can actually purchase equipment and software and participate in training side-by-side with professionals.

You can buy from brain-trainer (we are the only site I know of that discounts prices of this equipment and software) or from any source you choose. You can take my advice or completely ignore it. It won't make a huge difference to me either way. I am more than happy though to help you get off to a solid, informed start.

The number you sent in your other e-mail was, I assume, a phone number, but I'm not sure where it is (what time zone you are in) and what day/time would be best for you to speak.

If you are interested, please let me know some options, and I'll give you a ring.

Pete

Hi I'm looking for advice from an independent bodybasically I'm interested in buying equipment that would allow me to administer biofeedback sessions from home on my own (i have a concentration problem) there are 2 things that Ive been advised to look into and i don't know which one would better suit my needs, i want something easy (uncomplicated) that will allow me to train to become more focused,i would greatly appreciate it if you can either advise me or direct to me to an independent reputable source for advicethanks againLeib Heller

.. -- Van Deusen

pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.

-- Van Deusen

pvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

December 3, 2007

Hi Leib~

I am a home trainer and I agree with everything Pete said about the different

peices of equipment. I have a pendant and a pRoshi and both are great devices

and very different from each other and often compliment each other. I dont know

a lot about PlayAttention but I have heard it referred to it as a toy and from

the little I have learned about the brain the one size fits all is very

limiting. Brains are complicated.

A thought that comes to mind is you are hoping for a lot without much effort and

usually if something great comes very easily without much work it is suspect.

My main concern is you don't really know what your brain is doing and what it

needs to train for you to address the issues you would like to address. I

highly recommend you at least have an assessment done of your brain and it may

make the decision about what equipment to go with a little easier. What you need

and what your 7 year old needs may likely be very different so the one size fits

all may not be the way to go especially when you are working with an adult brain

and then a young child. There can be many reasons you are having trouble with

focus, too much slow wave activity, too much fast wave activity, too much alpha,

reversed patterns and more. It would be good to know before you start a

training plan.

If you could let us know where you are located we may be able to find you a home

trainer or clinician in your area to help you with an assessment.

One equipment option you did'nt mention which is more user friendly than full

EEG and has great potential for helping focus is HEG. You place a headband on

your head with a light meter that records either oxygen levels or temperature

levels with a goal to increase from a baseline. You would have to learn to use

the software but the head band itself is simple to use by placing the sensor on

different locations around the forehead, no frequency decisions to make. Your

child can also use the HEG with great benefit. You can see the different HEG

options at the brain-trainer site. You could go with a HEG pendant, (device,

headband and Bioexplorer software) or the Pocket (with bioexplorer software or

stand alone) which is a bit more costly but it also trains EEG which would give

you more options in the future.

I also recommend you try to learn more about the brain, if you dont put much

effort into doing this right, you wont have as much success, and it will be easy

to drop it all and place your equipment in the closet like an old exercise bike.

Support is also important for continued success. Depending on where you are we

may be able to find you a group of trainers who you can be in contact with for

regular help.

Hope this helps and not confuses more.

~

-------------- Original message ----------------------

> Leib,

>

> You have 3 very different options there.

>

> The Pendant (with BioExplorer software and some electrodes) will cost you

> about $1,050 with shipping, and it will be able to do any kind of training

> for any kind of brain activation targets you are ever likely to want to do.

> But the hope that you can start messing around with your (and others')

> brains without having to know anything about the brain or the technology is

> perhaps a bit naive (we can all HOPE, can't we?)

>

> The other two options are, indeed, one-size-fits-all options, and that is

> exactly their attraction. PlayAttention has a very slick website (except

> it's almost impossible to find out how much it costs or how exactly it

> works.) It is a helmet with saline electrodes, so it should be quite easy

> to use. It uses some classic training protocols (where the electrodes are

> reading and what frequencies they are training), which have been proven over

> a number of years to work with 60-70% of people who have attention or

> impulse control problems. If it works, it will be a great solution, so it

> may well be worth taking a flier on it, since you won't really have to learn

> anything.

>

> The pROSHI is a $2000 item that doesn't even look at the EEG. It simply

> uses flashing light patterns to entrain the brain and try to move it. I

> know many people who love it, but I don't know of anyone who says that it

> actually resulted in any kind of lasting change in brain funtion. If you

> use it daily, you'll have results--as long as you keep using it. Most

> people I know are using it prior to a neurofeedback session, because it

> " loosens up " the brain and makes it easier to train. I also have the clear

> sense that it is much more useful with people who have excessive activity in

> their brains--too fast, anxious, compulsive, etc.--rather than those who

> have too little--inattentive, etc.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Pete

>

> > Hi

> > its all too confusing for me, so far I've seen 3 thins one is a pendant

> > http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 the

> > other is 'playattention' which looks very impresive i've also been advised

> > to look into pRoshi, but i think im not equiped to decide on any of

> > this, basically, i want something which allows me to press one button and

> > immediately enter a session that will help me with attention and /or

> > meditative states, i'd rather not have to go through extensive training etc.

> >

> > with the pendant I'm afraid that it will take me ages to figure out which

> > frequency is best for me etc. also i would prefer games on the screen as

> > opposed to brain patterns,

> >

> > i also want something that my 7 year old son can benefit from...

> >

> > sorry for being difficult but i do want to make sure that i get the right

> > thing

> > thanks again,

> > Leib.

> >

> > http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11

> >

> > * Van Deusen * wrote:

> >

> > I'm not sure what independent body would have much knowledge to be able

> > to help you with much information about this topic. I am independent in the

> > sense that I distribute equipment and software from various sources and

> > don't work for--am not a part of--any specific organization. You are

> > welcome to take a look at the webiste www.brain-trainer.com, if you

> > haven't already seen it, to get a sense off what we are about.

> >

> > I'm not sure that I'll suggest the same 2 things you've previously been

> > advised to look into--or perhaps offer another alternative. But I'll me

> > happy to speak with you and give you my thoughts. I am not a clinician, but

> > I set up and ran a very successful brain training program in Atlanta (4

> > offices) from 1992 to 2001. For the past 5 years I've taught professional

> > and lay trainers in workshops all over the world and throughout the US.

> > I've trained hundreds of clients and assessed well over a thousand. We

> > developed and operated a successful home training program in 1998 (when the

> > first inexpensive 2-channel amplifiers became available). I've taught

> > hundreds of people ranging from MD's and Ph.D.'s to home trainers like you

> > are seeking to become. Brain-trainer is one of the few places of which I'm

> > aware where a non-clinician can actually purchase equipment and software and

> > participate in training side-by-side with professionals.

> > You can buy from brain-trainer (we are the only site I know of that

> > discounts prices of this equipment and software) or from any source you

> > choose. You can take my advice or completely ignore it. It won't make a

> > huge difference to me either way. I am more than happy though to help you

> > get off to a solid, informed start.

> >

> > The number you sent in your other e-mail was, I assume, a phone number,

> > but I'm not sure where it is (what time zone you are in) and what day/time

> > would be best for you to speak.

> >

> > If you are interested, please let me know some options, and I'll give you

> > a ring.

> >

> > Pete

> >

> > > Hi I'm looking for advice from an independent body

> > > basically I'm interested in buying equipment that would allow me to

> > > administer biofeedback sessions from home on my own (i have a

> > > concentration problem)

> > > there are 2 things that Ive been advised to look into and i don't know

> > > which one would better suit my needs, i want something easy

> > > (uncomplicated) that will allow me to train to become more focused,

> > > i would greatly appreciate it if you can either advise me or direct to

> > > me to an independent reputable source for advice

> > > thanks again

> > > Leib Heller

> > > .

> > >

> > > --

> > Van Deusen

> > pvdtlc@...

> > http://www.brain-trainer.com

> > 305/433-3160

> > The Learning Curve, Inc.

> >

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> > how. <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51732/*http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/>

> >

>

> --

> Van Deusen

> pvdtlc@...

> http://www.brain-trainer.com

> 305/433-3160

> The Learning Curve, Inc.

>

Leib,

You have 3 very different options there.

The Pendant (with BioExplorer software and some electrodes) will cost you about $1,050 with shipping, and it will be able to do any kind of training for any kind of brain activation targets you are ever likely to want to do. But the hope that you can start messing around with your (and others') brains without having to know anything about the brain or the technology is perhaps a bit naive (we can all HOPE, can't we?)

The other two options are, indeed, one-size-fits-all options, and that is exactly their attraction. PlayAttention has a very slick website (except it's almost impossible to find out how much it costs or how exactly it works.) It is a helmet with saline electrodes, so it should be quite easy to use. It uses some classic training protocols (where the electrodes are reading and what frequencies they are training), which have been proven over a number of years to work with 60-70% of people who have attention or impulse control problems. If it works, it will be a great solution, so it may well be worth taking a flier on it, since you won't really have to learn anything.

The pROSHI is a $2000 item that doesn't even look at the EEG. It simply uses flashing light patterns to entrain the brain and try to move it. I know many people who love it, but I don't know of anyone who says that it actually resulted in any kind of lasting change in brain funtion. If you use it daily, you'll have results--as long as you keep using it. Most people I know are using it prior to a neurofeedback session, because it " loosens up " the brain and makes it easier to train. I also have the clear sense that it is much more useful with people who have excessive activity in their brains--too fast, anxious, compulsive, etc.--rather than those who have too little--inattentive, etc.

Good luck.

Pete

On Dec 3, 2007 8:00 AM, Rabbi Heller <rabbiheller> wrote:

Hi

its all too confusing for me, so far I've seen 3 thins one is a pendant

http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11 the other is 'playattention' which looks very impresive i've also been advised to look into pRoshi, but i think im not equiped to decide on any of this, basically, i want something which allows me to press one button and immediately enter a session that will help me with attention and /or meditative states, i'd rather not have to go through extensive training etc.

with the pendant I'm afraid that it will take me ages to figure out which frequency is best for me etc. also i would prefer games on the screen as opposed to brain patterns,

i also want something that my 7 year old son can benefit from...

sorry for being difficult but i do want to make sure that i get the right thing

thanks again,

Leib.

http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=11

Van Deusen <pvdtlcgmail> wrote:

I'm not sure what independent body would have much knowledge to be able to help you with much information about this topic. I am independent in the sense that I distribute equipment and software from various sources and don't work for--am not a part of--any specific organization. You are welcome to take a look at the webiste www.brain-trainer.com, if you haven't already seen it, to get a sense off what we are about.

I'm not sure that I'll suggest the same 2 things you've previously been advised to look into--or perhaps offer another alternative. But I'll me happy to speak with you and give you my thoughts. I am not a clinician, but I set up and ran a very successful brain training program in Atlanta (4 offices) from 1992 to 2001. For the past 5 years I've taught professional and lay trainers in workshops all over the world and throughout the US. I've trained hundreds of clients and assessed well over a thousand. We developed and operated a successful home training program in 1998 (when the first inexpensive 2-channel amplifiers became available). I've taught hundreds of people ranging from MD's and Ph.D.'s to home trainers like you are seeking to become. Brain-trainer is one of the few places of which I'm aware where a non-clinician can actually purchase equipment and software and participate in training side-by-side with professionals.

You can buy from brain-trainer (we are the only site I know of that discounts prices of this equipment and software) or from any source you choose. You can take my advice or completely ignore it. It won't make a huge difference to me either way. I am more than happy though to help you get off to a solid, informed start.

The number you sent in your other e-mail was, I assume, a phone number, but I'm not sure where it is (what time zone you are in) and what day/time would be best for you to speak.

If you are interested, please let me know some options, and I'll give you a ring.

Pete

On Dec 2, 2007 7:41 PM, Rabbi Heller <rabbiheller> wrote:

Hi I'm looking for advice from an independent bodybasically I'm interested in buying equipment that would allow me to administer biofeedback sessions from home on my own (i have a concentration problem) there are 2 things that Ive been advised to look into and i don't know which one would better suit my needs, i want something easy (uncomplicated) that will allow me to train to become more focused,i would greatly appreciate it if you can either advise me or direct to me to an independent reputable source for advicethanks againLeib Heller

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December 3, 2007