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April 22, 2009

AMEN, --to each and every word! To deny the fact about how sick our children get FROM VACCINES, or to deny that there is a HUGE financial connection between drug companies, medical schools, and doctors, is a denial of the facts. We who refuse to go along with the "program" are not fringe loonies, as the mainstream media portays us. Not paranoid. Not stubborn, ignorant, or ill-informed. Just not willing to shoot our kids up with deadly toxins, disease material, heavy metals, and dead fetuses--to keep them SAFE from diseases that good sanitation and nutrition have all but eliminated. Somehow, I seriously don't see that as all that crazy. Must be me (and thousands of other parents around the country). Marilyn Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!

April 22, 2009

I very much so picked and choose vaccines for each child and did not follow that crazy schedule.

Have you gotten a child into school without having them be fully vaccinated, or did they pressure you into believing you HAD TO "catch them up" before they'd be allowed in? Just curious. Marilyn Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!

April 22, 2009

You already made a false statement about vaccines that leads me to believe that you have not truly researched. Anyone who says that drs or the CDC are claiming that vaccinations offer 100% protection, has NOT done their research.

I never once said I had heard that the CDC said ANYTHING, much less that they claimed 100% effectiveness for vaccines. Where did YOUR statement come from? Not from my post.

Nor anyone who thinks that a teen coming down with whooping cough is a vaccine failure.

I never said anything like this either. Not even close! Although if the teen WAS vaccinated, that WOULD, of course, be a vaccine failure if she came down with the disease, now that YOU mention it. Marilyn

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April 22, 2009

No Marilyn you are NOT right. And the way you are stating this implies that people who not buy into what you believe are ignorant, stubborn or ill informed is just plain RUDE and offensive.

Funny--I didn't need to resort to name calling to state my views. How come you do? I never once called anyone ANYTHING like that. I said anti-vaccine people such as myself were portrayed that way. Are you misreading my posts, perhaps? Marilyn Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!

April 22, 2009

Yes you did. Back when the post about non vaccinated children being a risk to vaccinated. You stated if kids had been vaccinated then they wouldn't need to worry because of the vaccinations.

I don't have your kind of time, apparently, to go back and dig in all the past posts and pull them apart to attack people with. The words "CDC" and "100%" were in my post? If they were, it would have to be in refereence to something recent I had read, which I now can't recall. But I sure didn't pull it out of the air. And it stands to reason that if YOU believe the vaccines are completely safe and effective, MY unvaccinated kids WOULD NOT pose a risk to them. That's just logic. That statement I probably did make, and I totally stand by it because it simply makes sense.

And no, it's not a vaccine failure if a teen gets whooping cough. You should go read about the vaccine before you make such statements.

How would reading about whooping cough vaccines tell me that a child who is vaccinated, and then gets sick, with ANYTHING they were vaccinated against, is NOT a vaccine failure? Failure is just that--a vaccine that did not provide immunity, as it was advertised to do. Plain and simple.

Marilyn

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April 22, 2009

But Marilyn you have in the past made reference over and over that people who not believe as you do are idiots and easily intimated, see above post. When you talk that way, it brings out the worst in people because you are putting them on the defensive. Fine to have your views and certainly your opinion, but try to keep it respectful as others don't believe the same as you.

No--I didn't call PARENTS "idiots". I said the STATEMENT was idiocy. And many parents ARE easily intimidated! Authority figures are revered--sometimes without just cause. It's human nature to want to trust them, and believe them. Nothing unusual or accusatory in that--it's just life! Maybe I come across harsher in e-mails than I am in reality, but I re-read everything written, and I truly believe a lot of it has been misinterpreted. I have strong opinions, but I am not a person who deliberately insults or attacks anyone (although I will defend myself when attacked). Can we please call a truce to all this--it really gets us nowhere. Marilyn Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!

April 22, 2009

You are not a person to be reasoned with

Not nice, and not true at ALL. Marilyn Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!

April 22, 2009

If you are pro-vaccine then according to your posts, that makes me someone who believes idiot statements by authority figures with out question.There really is no other way to 'take' that. :-)

I really hate to be misunderstood. Bugs the heck out of me. Not EVERYONE believes these statements, across the board, without question. How could that possibly be? So I could not be referring to ALL pro-vaccine parents. Many well-read, well-informed parents CHOOSE to vaccinate. While I strongly disagree with that decision, I RESPECT it because it was not done just to go along with whatever the doctor or nurse said to do, mindlessly. I appreciate INTELLIGENT people who make INFORMED decisions. You are very likely one of those. If we misunderstood one another, I apologize. Marilyn Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!

April 22, 2009

I'm getting too tired and confused here, so I'm going to call it a day. I know what I mean, and you know what you mean, but it's becoming a muddle in my brain at this point. I still TRULY believe I have been misread, but it's simply not all that vital that we see eye to eye on this, so I'm going to drop it, if you don't mind. Not angry, not upset, not anything but tired at this point.

Note to Marsha--I don't usually "tone down". I'm too intense for that. But I CAN be reasoned with, and most of the time, I can "play nice". Good enough? :)

Marilyn heading for bed Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!

April 22, 2009

Do you realize who these anti vaccine camps are? They are not out to make

money off of us they are out to warn us because they watched their

perfectly healthy child either die or suffer horrible side affects the

rest of their life from vaccines. Then they are made to feel they are

foolish extremist for blaming the vaccine and it was just bad genetics

that all of a sudden happened just around the time they got their

vaccines. This is such an insult. I have read hundreds of horrible cases

of vaccine reactions and have witnessed first hand healthy children

totally deteriorate after their vaccines. I just had a lady approach me

at church Sunday asking for help with her boys that she saw deteriorate

after injections. Now her doctors are making her feel like she is crazy

to think it could be the shots and now she is on her own to try to regain

her beautiful boy's health back. It breaks my heart!

None of my boys have been vaccinated and they have never an ear infection

either or been on antibiotics except my son with DS when he had heart

surgery. (8,5,19 months)

I had all my shots as a child and I suffered with severe asthma, food

allergies, and environmental allergies. I got bronchitis all the time.

It wasn't until I was an adult that I changed my diet and detoxed and now

I am the healthiest in my family and off of all medications that I was

told I would need forever.

I encourage you to keep your mind open and keep researching. Just make

sure you are reading information that is not backed by someone who is

profiting from the vaccine.

Why has there never been a study of the unvaccinated children vs. the

vaccinated? Hummmm! They have had plenty of time and resources to do

this. Research how many cases of Autism and all the other childhood

learning problems and autoimmune problems rampant now that are NOT in the

Amish community who as a whole do not vaccinate. Although they too are

now being pressured to do so.

Also, do your due diligence and get the medical inserts from your doc from

all the vaccines they give and look up every ingredient and really see

what it is and what it does in the body. I wouldn't even put those

ingredients in my mouth why would I inject them in my child's bloodstream.

I pray we as a nation will open our minds to search for the truth and not

just believe what our government tells us.

Sincerely,

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The anti vaccine camp has proven nothing of the kind

> Their research has not withstood SCID

> Scientific scrutiny and always fAlls back on conspiricy

> Theory as the reason.

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> Sorry for poor typing practice makes perfect

> Sent from my iPhone

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>> In a message dated 4/21/2009 9:59:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

>> takecareoftoday@...

>> writes:

>> So I love vaccines , and the protection they offer.

>> To each her own. The research I, and many others, have done proves

>> they do NOT offer the safety and effectiveness we have been led to

>> believe. Most people still choose to believe otherwise, as is your

>> right. I believe it's a dangerous amount of trust to be giving to

>> pharmaceutical companies. Case in point--Gardasil. One of the

>> deadliest and most dangerous " vaccines " out there--and yet they are

>> still allowed to continue, as previously healthy young women die.

>> Responsible medicine? I think not. Marilyn

>>

>> Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!

>>

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April 22, 2009

, Everyone is free to believe what they want. :-) What I truly find offensive is the tone in which the anti-vaccine people present their case. The implication is that *I* didn't do my research ( I DID) or that I have a closed mind ( I DON'T) or that I am unaware that some people should not get vaccinated and do have a bad reaction to it. Or even that I believe what ever Drs say with out looking it up! Anyone who knows me, knows that's a huge laugh. ;-) Esp any of my Drs. ;-)

Feel free to express your opinons, but I would ask that your refrain from calling other people ignorant or close minded because they disagree with you. :-)Priscella K is a very good example of how to respectfully speak about vaccines. She states her very passionate position, but does not belittle people in the process.