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Hello all,

I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four

is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to

be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this

world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only

allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I

have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not

social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are

autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like

our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you.

His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with

autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have

different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.

How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was

a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of

you.

Thank you,

a

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I have a 15 year old son with autism who is very social. He's always been that

way, though secretin brought it even more to the forefront. He loves people,

unfortunately he doesn't have enough of the language/social and play skills to

really get the interaction he deserves. I hate doctors who put labels and

limits on our kids using autism as the reason. Each child is differently

affected.

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is

four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He

loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of

leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is

only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But

I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not

social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are

autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like

our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you.

His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with

autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have

different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.

>

> How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it

was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask

all of you.

>

> Thank you,

>

> a

>

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Hi a,

I think most autistic kids can be very social but most aren't social in the same way we are. My loves to be around people and is very excited to be with other children but he doesn't play or interact like they do. Some autistic kids who are very sensitive to sound and light may appear to dislike social situations but I think it is more about the environment they are in then them not liking other people. I really think this was misunderstood for a very long time and that was why they were said to be in their own world. Our kids want and need social interaction they just don't always show it in ways we understand. plays best with kids who are older and understand what he needs to join in or with kids who are 3 (he is 8) because he "gets" the games they play and the reasons for doing them and they don't use too much language for him. All of our kids are so very different and at the same time so

similar. I'm really glad your guy is so social. Is he a seeker like my ? is under sensitive instead of over sensitive so he is always looking for more input... that is starting to change as he gets older and he is becoming more sound sensitive. I think that is because he is really listening (finally) and he is really starting to pay attention to the sounds around him as more then just noises. His language is really taking off right now both receptively and expressively so it fits. Kellie

To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:29:48 AMSubject: Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How many parents on here

have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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I'm the one the "chirps" in every once in a while. It is so untrue that Autistic children are not social. Some like you say go off in their own world and are hard to reach.

Dan was sorta a social child but was unable to communicate with us until the age of 3. We used sign language with him and he couldn't absorb words fast enough to keep up with his brain. One thing that I did find is that my son has Verbal/Global Apraxia - it is a motor problem where the brain tries to fire the muscles let's say of the mouth to produce speech but the signal never gets there or gets rerouted and he bites you. That's an exaggeration but I think you will understand.

Once Dan could communicate either through sign or talking he became very social - almost too social. He still doesn't know social boundaries - oh I wish he would learn these they are the most awkward for a kid with Autism/Aspergers to deal with.

Don't let me or him fool you he is much happier in his own world but has learned that if he wants to do things with other kids he has to stay in their world. He comes home everyday and says to me mom I stayed in the real world at school today ALL DAY, can I go downstairs and be me. I say of course you can. This is called his decompression time. Without it my family would be a mess!!!

Our kids are social when they choose to be - that is there perogative and totally up to them. Just as we may avoid a person cause we don't like them Autistics do that too, although they are lucky they can completely block out something they don't want to deal with.

Hang in there the more he is social and tries to engage in play or idle watching of other children or people the better chance he has - this is my opinion and may not be that of others but I truly believe our kids our social.

Okay I will go back to my nest. Have a great day.

Peace

Sharon

Subject: Being very social and autisticTo: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 10:29 AM

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How many parents on here

have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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Oh boy is he a seeker. He is into EVERYTHING all the time. He is in love with

cuddling and just sitting there with you on the couch. He actually thinks that

he is the only one who should get any attention and is very demanding most of

the time.

I am so glad to hear others say the same things I have been thinking all along.

I still don't think that most docs get it yet.

Blessings,

a

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> Hi a,

>   I think most autistic kids can be very social but most aren't social in the

same way we are.  My loves to be around people and is very excited to be

with other children but he doesn't play or interact like they do.  Some autistic

kids who are very sensitive to sound and light may appear to dislike social

situations but I think it is more about the environment they are in then them

not liking other people.  I really think this was misunderstood for a very long

time and that was why they were said to be in their own world.  Our kids want

and need social interaction they just don't always show it in ways we

understand.  plays best with kids who are older and understand what he

needs to join in or with kids who are 3 (he is 8) because he " gets " the games

they play and the reasons for doing them and they don't use too much language

for him.  All of our kids are so very different and at the same time so

similar.  I'm really glad your guy is

> so social.  Is he a seeker like my ?  is under sensitive instead of

over sensitive so he is always looking for more input... that is starting to

change as he gets older and he is becoming more sound sensitive.  I think that

is because he is really listening (finally) and he is really starting to pay

attention to the sounds around him as more then just noises. His language is

really taking off right now both receptively and expressively so it fits. 

Kellie

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> Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:29:48 AM

> Subject: Being very social and autistic

>

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is

four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He

loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of

leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is

only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But

I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not

social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are

autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like

our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you.

His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with

autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have

different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.

>

> How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it

was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask

all of you.

>

> Thank you,

>

> a

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My son is *social* in that he makes excellent eye contact. All of the staff that works with him loves him - he loves to shake hands, give hugs & insists that he say *Hi* to everyone & that they respond. He has never been open w/children - but with adults, he seems to prefer their company. Although as he is getting older, he is becoming increasingly shy & withdrawn, but at 12, with puberty setting in, most kids do (I think).

To: AutismBehaviorProblems From: TKfourangels@...Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:29:48 +0000Subject: Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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I agree with you - kids with autism have difficulty with social interactions but most do enjoy the interactions. They are often very social with adults since adults are more patient and try to engage the child - where as peers get bored and walk away.

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I see loads of replies here, so I will be brief (if that's possible :) --- I only wish that were true...I have a social butterfly on my hands...well not for NT but definitely for Autism.

Get another doctor...please, as his ism won't get any better without the help he needs...I'm OK with a doctor that says your son does not have Austim, I'm not OK with a doctor that uses being social as an excuse.

Best, Best, wishes to you...

e

To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:29:48 AMSubject: Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How many parents on here

have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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Ya, is better with adults and not children. we can be at a party for my nieces kids or sometihng, because this has happened a couple times, and there are tons and tons of kids there. Some s age and some that are older or younger, and all he cares about is opening and shutting doors, getting to where he is not suppose to be, turning on and off lights etc. But, to get an adults attention, now, he loves that.

Stacie

My son is *social* in that he makes excellent eye contact. All of the staff that works with him loves him - he loves to shake hands, give hugs & insists that he say *Hi* to everyone & that they respond. He has never been open w/children - but with adults, he seems to prefer their company. Although as he is getting older, he is becoming increasingly shy & withdrawn, but at 12, with puberty setting in, most kids do (I think).

To: AutismBehaviorProblems From: TKfourangelsDate: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:29:48 +0000Subject: Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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Stacie - that is exactly my son - I think it is because children are very unpredictable. my son is a terrible flirt with the ladies!!!!!! But I think that is because all the important figures in his life are female (apart frm hubby/dad) He has female keyworkers, female respite workers, and female teachers.

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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My son favors "ample" ladies!!!

Mother figures I suppose

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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My son always likes the young blonds LOL! Whenever a therapist would come to interview and meet I knew we had a hit first if she was young and had high energy, second if she was blond he was in heaven!! We always joked that he was such a typical male! Older blonds work well but the young cute ones are always his favorites. An interesting note do any of your kids remember everything. can out of the blue mention his past therapists by name. He says Kathy all gone, Jessie all gone, etc.. as well as he can list our cars in the order we had them by the colors he will say white car,red card, black van,etc... Many of these people and cars were from when he was 2 1/2 and non verbal. It amazes me when we run into someone hasn't

seen in 5 years and he says their name. Kellie

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 My son favors "ample" ladies!!!

Mother figures I suppose

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How

many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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too cute! To: AutismBehaviorProblems From: kenmeljones@...Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:18:51 +0100Subject: Re: Being very social and autistic My son favors "ample" ladies!!! Mother figures I suppose Being very social and autisticHello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,aWindows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. Check it out. Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out.

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I wonder if it counts as discrimination if when hiring a therapist, hair color/figure and disposition are taken into affect? I know that Nick remembers so much, like directions. We went to North Carolina one time when he was 4, and then we were going to South Carolina when he was 9, he knew exactly what highways we were supposed to take, at least to get to N. Carolina. And don't even get me started on when we have to take detours to get to some of his most favorite (and even least favorite) places. And the entire road trip consists of pointing out every building we have ever been in since a very young age! To: AutismBehaviorProblems From: folkangel@...Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:46:25 -0700Subject: Re: Being very social and autisticMy son always likes the young blonds LOL! Whenever a therapist would come to interview and meet I knew we had a hit first if she was young and had high energy, second if she was blond he was in heaven!! We always joked that he was such a typical male! Older blonds work well but the young cute ones are always his favorites. An interesting note do any of your kids remember everything. can out of the blue mention his past therapists by name. He says Kathy all gone, Jessie all gone, etc.. as well as he can list our cars in the order we had them by the colors he will say white car,red card, black van,etc... Many of these people and cars were from when he was 2 1/2 and non verbal. It amazes me when we run into someone hasn't seen in 5 years and he says their name. KellieFrom: mel <kenmeljonesntlworld>To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:18:51 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic My son favors "ample" ladies!!! Mother figures I suppose Being very social and autisticHello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,aWindows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.. Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. Check it out. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!

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The company would probably frown on me saying I only wanted young blonds LOL! I just say things like I think she would be a great fit for or not. They did probably see a trend when he was younger but now we have had 2 brunettes working with him for over 5 years and one of them is older then me so the charge wouldn't stick LOL! Kellie

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I wonder if it counts as discrimination if when hiring a therapist, hair color/figure and disposition are taken into affect? I know that Nick remembers so much, like directions. We went to North Carolina one time when he was 4, and then we were going to South Carolina when he was 9, he knew exactly what highways we were supposed to take, at least to get to N. Carolina. And don't even get me started on when we have to take detours to get to some of his most favorite (and even least favorite) places. And the entire road trip consists of pointing out every building we have ever been in since a very young age!

To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: folkangelymail (DOT) comDate: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:46:25 -0700Subject: Re: Being very social and autistic

My son always likes the young blonds LOL! Whenever a therapist would come to interview and meet I knew we had a hit first if she was young and had high energy, second if she was blond he was in heaven!! We always joked that he was such a typical male! Older blonds work well but the young cute ones are always his favorites. An interesting note do any of your kids remember everything. can out of the blue mention his past therapists by name. He says Kathy all gone, Jessie all gone, etc.. as well as he can list our cars in the order we had them by the colors he will say white car,red card, black van,etc... Many of these people and cars were from when he was 2 1/2 and non verbal. It amazes me when we run into someone hasn't seen in 5 years and he says their name. Kellie

From: mel <kenmeljones@ ntlworld. com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:18:51 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

 My son favors "ample" ladies!!!

Mother figures I suppose

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How

many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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Oh Rhonda is this funny... is a flirt as well, he is blonde with blues eyes...I'm a brunette, and he's partial to blondes....so funny...he adores his brunette blue-eyed mommy thought :)

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lol - my son is just like that too - he knows how to wrap the ladies around his little finger! In fact, when we first started him in school, his goal was to feed himself w/a spoon, but he conned his parapros into feeding him anyways. They had to constantly switch his aide! Waitresses at all our favorite restaurants know Nick by name, and always have to stop by our table & say hi - he is partial to brunettes w/pony tails. People I've never met before in my life will come up to me in stores etc, and tell me how they know Nick, and how much they love him. Now, if I could only get one of them to take him for a week :) (j/k!). I think everyone here is extremely insightful to their children.. They (for the most part) ARE social - they want to be in our world. They just want us to understand theirs too, and make it possible! I wish that part of a Doctors

continuing education accreditation would include yearly updates on Autism - I think that many Dr.'s need the to stay informed as to the spectrum to make better informed decisionss.

To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: kenmeljones@ ntlworld. comDate: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:33:29 +0100Subject: Re: Being very social and autistic

 Stacie - that is exactly my son - I think it is because children are very unpredictable. my son is a terrible flirt with the ladies!!!!!! But I think that is because all the important figures in his life are female (apart frm hubby/dad) He has female keyworkers, female respite workers, and female teachers.

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How

many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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Oh, my goodness, I just wrote this about ...he adores blonds...It is a joke at our house because I'm a brunette...Thanfully I've always dated men who preferred brunettes with blue eyes... :) LOL...and married one too. I'm a little partial to brunettes as you can tell...NO offense to you blond mommies out there... LOL. I love you as it helps engage... LOL

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To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:46:25 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

My son always likes the young blonds LOL! Whenever a therapist would come to interview and meet I knew we had a hit first if she was young and had high energy, second if she was blond he was in heaven!! We always joked that he was such a typical male! Older blonds work well but the young cute ones are always his favorites. An interesting note do any of your kids remember everything. can out of the blue mention his past therapists by name. He says Kathy all gone, Jessie all gone, etc.. as well as he can list our cars in the order we had them by the colors he will say white car,red card, black van,etc... Many of these people and cars were from when he was 2 1/2 and non verbal. It amazes me when we run into someone hasn't seen in 5 years and he says their name. Kellie

From: mel <kenmeljones@ ntlworld. com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:18:51 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

 My son favors "ample" ladies!!!

Mother figures I suppose

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How

many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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Funny, Karac likes blonds too. Pat K

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Mother figures I suppose

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,

I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this

... But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.

How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.

Thank you,

a

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hmmm....i see a definite trend here for our young men being partial to blondes! And the *ample* thing - yep, our young men are definitely young men! To: AutismBehaviorProblems From: ljdjd1234@...Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:39:01 -0700Subject: Re: Being very social and autisticOh Rhonda is this funny... is a flirt as well, he is blonde with blues eyes...I'm a brunette, and he's partial to blondes....so funny...he adores his brunette blue-eyed mommy thought :) eTo: autismbehaviorproblemsyahoogroups (DOT) .comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 7:04:34 AMSubject: RE: Being very social and autisticlol - my son is just like that too - he knows how to wrap the ladies around his little finger! In fact, when we first started him in school, his goal was to feed himself w/a spoon, but he conned his parapros into feeding him anyways. They had to constantly switch his aide! Waitresses at all our favorite restaurants know Nick by name, and always have to stop by our table & say hi - he is partial to brunettes w/pony tails. People I've never met before in my life will come up to me in stores etc, and tell me how they know Nick, and how much they love him. Now, if I could only get one of them to take him for a week :) (j/k!). I think everyone here is extremely insightful to their children.. They (for the most part) ARE social - they want to be in our world. They just want us to understand theirs too, and make it possible! I wish that part of a Doctors continuing education accreditation would include yearly updates on Autism - I think that many Dr.'s need the to stay informed as to the spectrum to make better informed decisionss. To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: kenmeljones@ ntlworld. comDate: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:33:29 +0100Subject: Re: Being very social and autistic Stacie - that is exactly my son - I think it is because children are very unpredictable. my son is a terrible flirt with the ladies!!!!!! But I think that is because all the important figures in his life are female (apart frm hubby/dad) He has female keyworkers, female respite workers, and female teachers. Being very social and autisticHello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,aWindows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.. Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. Check it out. Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out.

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hey, that's an idea...I need more blond theapists...we only have one blond out of the 4 therapists he has....he does best with her...so funny........NO it's not discrimination. LOL

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To: autismbehaviorproblems Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 9:26:13 AMSubject: RE: Being very social and autistic

I wonder if it counts as discrimination if when hiring a therapist, hair color/figure and disposition are taken into affect? I know that Nick remembers so much, like directions. We went to North Carolina one time when he was 4, and then we were going to South Carolina when he was 9, he knew exactly what highways we were supposed to take, at least to get to N. Carolina. And don't even get me started on when we have to take detours to get to some of his most favorite (and even least favorite) places. And the entire road trip consists of pointing out every building we have ever been in since a very young age!

To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: folkangelymail (DOT) comDate: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:46:25 -0700Subject: Re: Being very social and autistic

My son always likes the young blonds LOL! Whenever a therapist would come to interview and meet I knew we had a hit first if she was young and had high energy, second if she was blond he was in heaven!! We always joked that he was such a typical male! Older blonds work well but the young cute ones are always his favorites. An interesting note do any of your kids remember everything. can out of the blue mention his past therapists by name. He says Kathy all gone, Jessie all gone, etc.. as well as he can list our cars in the order we had them by the colors he will say white car,red card, black van,etc... Many of these people and cars were from when he was 2 1/2 and non verbal. It amazes me when we run into someone hasn't seen in 5 years and he says their name. Kellie

From: mel <kenmeljones@ ntlworld. com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:18:51 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

 My son favors "ample" ladies!!!

Mother figures I suppose

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How

many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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That's it! I'm dying my hair blond! Not really since it would really look awful on me blond hair and black eyebrows would not be a good look for me. Maybe just a few blond streaks would work. That I'm willing to try. Kellie

To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 2:06:35 PMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

Oh, my goodness, I just wrote this about ...he adores blonds...It is a joke at our house because I'm a brunette...Thanfull y I've always dated men who preferred brunettes with blue eyes... :) LOL...and married one too. I'm a little partial to brunettes as you can tell...NO offense to you blond mommies out there... LOL. I love you as it helps engage... LOL

e

From: Kellie Folkerts <folkangelymail (DOT) com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:46:25 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

My son always likes the young blonds LOL! Whenever a therapist would come to interview and meet I knew we had a hit first if she was young and had high energy, second if she was blond he was in heaven!! We always joked that he was such a typical male! Older blonds work well but the young cute ones are always his favorites. An interesting note do any of your kids remember everything. can out of the blue mention his past therapists by name. He says Kathy all gone, Jessie all gone, etc.. as well as he can list our cars in the order we had them by the colors he will say white car,red card, black van,etc... Many of these people and cars were from when he was 2 1/2 and non verbal. It amazes me when we run into someone hasn't seen in 5 years and he says their name. Kellie

From: mel <kenmeljones@ ntlworld. com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:18:51 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

 My son favors "ample" ladies!!!

Mother figures I suppose

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How

many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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OMGoodness what am I to do my dear Dan prefers men - he absolutely will not work with a woman. Especially at swimming have had to switch facilities to keep him with a man. It worked out for the better but ......

Oh well his sweetheart is a cute little blonde hair blue-eyed little girl.

Subject: Re: Being very social and autisticTo: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 2:06 PM

Oh, my goodness, I just wrote this about ...he adores blonds...It is a joke at our house because I'm a brunette...Thanfull y I've always dated men who preferred brunettes with blue eyes... :) LOL...and married one too. I'm a little partial to brunettes as you can tell...NO offense to you blond mommies out there... LOL. I love you as it helps engage... LOL

e

From: Kellie Folkerts <folkangelymail (DOT) com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:46:25 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

My son always likes the young blonds LOL! Whenever a therapist would come to interview and meet I knew we had a hit first if she was young and had high energy, second if she was blond he was in heaven!! We always joked that he was such a typical male! Older blonds work well but the young cute ones are always his favorites. An interesting note do any of your kids remember everything. can out of the blue mention his past therapists by name. He says Kathy all gone, Jessie all gone, etc.. as well as he can list our cars in the order we had them by the colors he will say white car,red card, black van,etc... Many of these people and cars were from when he was 2 1/2 and non verbal. It amazes me when we run into someone hasn't seen in 5 years and he says their name. Kellie

From: mel <kenmeljones@ ntlworld. com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:18:51 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

 My son favors "ample" ladies!!!

Mother figures I suppose

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How

many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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So funny, you girls crack me up; is that the right expression? LOL, Pat K

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Being very social and autistic

Hello all,

I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all=2

0have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.

How many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.

Thank you,

a

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Sounds like Dan is just saving the blonds for the important stuff. We have never been able to get a male therapist. I really wanted to have one but there are so few around here. This year he does have part day with a male teacher and he loves it. This guy is great and his eyes speak.. they are blue and shine with kindness and interest (i'm not being weird, really!). loves his class and I think next year he will be in there more. Kellie

To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 2:19:18 PMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

OMGoodness what am I to do my dear Dan prefers men - he absolutely will not work with a woman. Especially at swimming have had to switch facilities to keep him with a man. It worked out for the better but ......

Oh well his sweetheart is a cute little blonde hair blue-eyed little girl.

From: Two Blessings <ljdjd1234yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Being very social and autisticTo: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Friday, April 3, 2009, 2:06 PM

Oh, my goodness, I just wrote this about ...he adores blonds....It is a joke at our house because I'm a brunette...Thanfull y I've always dated men who preferred brunettes with blue eyes... :) LOL...and married one too. I'm a little partial to brunettes as you can tell...NO offense to you blond mommies out there... LOL. I love you as it helps engage... LOL

e

From: Kellie Folkerts <folkangelymail (DOT) com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:46:25 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

My son always likes the young blonds LOL! Whenever a therapist would come to interview and meet I knew we had a hit first if she was young and had high energy, second if she was blond he was in heaven!! We always joked that he was such a typical male! Older blonds work well but the young cute ones are always his favorites. An interesting note do any of your kids remember everything. can out of the blue mention his past therapists by name. He says Kathy all gone, Jessie all gone, etc.. as well as he can list our cars in the order we had them by the colors he will say white car,red card, black van,etc... Many of these people and cars were from when he was 2 1/2 and non verbal. It amazes me when we run into someone hasn't seen in 5 years and he says their name. Kellie

From: mel <kenmeljones@ ntlworld. com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:18:51 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

 My son favors "ample" ladies!!!

Mother figures I suppose

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How

many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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when Dan was in therapy we never had a male therapist either - although I heard there was a great sensory guy in Naperville at the Pediatric Place - we just lived a bit to far to travel for OT services. We travelled to Elmhurst very very far for speech cause the therapist he had was wonderful - we miss her to this day.

From: Two Blessings <ljdjd1234yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Being very social and autisticTo: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Friday, April 3, 2009, 2:06 PM

Oh, my goodness, I just wrote this about ...he adores blonds....It is a joke at our house because I'm a brunette...Thanfull y I've always dated men who preferred brunettes with blue eyes... :) LOL...and married one too. I'm a little partial to brunettes as you can tell...NO offense to you blond mommies out there... LOL. I love you as it helps engage... LOL

e

From: Kellie Folkerts <folkangelymail (DOT) com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:46:25 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

My son always likes the young blonds LOL! Whenever a therapist would come to interview and meet I knew we had a hit first if she was young and had high energy, second if she was blond he was in heaven!! We always joked that he was such a typical male! Older blonds work well but the young cute ones are always his favorites. An interesting note do any of your kids remember everything. can out of the blue mention his past therapists by name. He says Kathy all gone, Jessie all gone, etc.. as well as he can list our cars in the order we had them by the colors he will say white car,red card, black van,etc... Many of these people and cars were from when he was 2 1/2 and non verbal. It amazes me when we run into someone hasn't seen in 5 years and he says their name. Kellie

From: mel <kenmeljones@ ntlworld. com>To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:18:51 AMSubject: Re: Being very social and autistic

 My son favors "ample" ladies!!!

Mother figures I suppose

Being very social and autistic

Hello all,I have a question for all of you. Our son's shrink says that our son who is four is autistic but has trouble with the dx because of how social he is. He loves to be around people most of the time but will go to his room and sort of leave this world for a while. We don't allow him to do this very often and he is only allowed to be alone for an hour or so and no more when he is like this. But I have a problem with what the doc said. She said that kids with autism are not social. I find this not to be true. At therapy I see plenty of children that are autistic and they are very social.One boy that we got to know is nonverbal like our son but you know that he really enjoys being around you when he sees you. His mother agreed with me that it is simply not true that ALL children with autism are that way.She said that they are all different and they all have different symptoms of it. I am totally confused.How

many parents on here have children that are non social? I heard that it was a myth that ALL autistic children are antisocial so I thought I would ask all of you.Thank you,a

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