Re: Re: morals and product quality

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<SNIP> Bragg picked up his son's wife, , and she masqueraded as his

daughter.<SNIP>

AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF A PRODUCT, EXACTLY HOW?

I murdered and killed an helped do both (there's a difference) in 'Vietnam as a

weapons carrying Independent Corpsman -- am I not to be trusted? Does 'War' make

killing and murder and helping murder and kill people different than being

'hunted' and 'preyed' upon by street gangs in a city?  Please explain to me

how.  Has my research been tainted by my past?  Has the work I've done with K-12

and Post-seconday and graduate students been for naught?  Please tell me -

really -- really.

Did the little pieces of cloth of pretty colors and with some small stars and a

star and little 'V' on one make it all better?  Does the color make a

difference? If so how? -- I REALLY want to know if this is some snide

sanctimonious " I'm better than them " comment -- or if you REALLY believe that

what I've done in my past makes what I've done suspect and implied as worthless?

Since the original was posted to the group - I reply to the group-- JUDGE ME!  I

DESIRE TO BE JUDGED AS A KILLER, MURDERER AND ONE WHO AIDED AND ABETTED MURDER

AND KILLING! PLEASE ANSWER ME THE SAY WAY YOU MALIGNED OTHERS FOR THEIR PAST AND

IMPLIED THE PRESENT IS THE SAME AS THEIR PAST! 

 

Dream Well. Travel Well.  May you Walk Your Path in Beauty.

" Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " Carl Sagan.

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[Guest guest]

Duncan -- was only talking about 1) products - eg cider vinegar and

amino-acids.  Not the rest, I don't know about it and can't comment.  Though I

do take umbrage at using a persons PAST history as a measure of their CURRENT

history - eg Clinton and Lowinsky, Gingrich and his wives, etc - with power (and

wealth) come temptations we need never concern ourselves so simply don't

understand.  Can't understand.  A quick look at history shows us all to well

the foibles of some of our greatest leaders, from Rome to the Hun Dynasty, even

to Western and Eastern Religions.  So -- death -- our shadow with whom we must

become friends.    I DO take offense at using a personal life to judge a

professional life.  Few are the Great Men who do not walk in feet of clay. 

Aristotle? Liked young boys.  Along with SO many talented and civilization

Changers.  Sapho speaks for herself and the women who followed. 

Tell me how you sprout - I would recommend the most simple way -- a compost tea

because 1) it's cheap, 2) it's clean, 3) it's fast, 4) it works.   Tell me the

seeds you sprout - and how you do it - mostly the seeds - and room

temperature.  I'll be back in a bit - found some damage to the far end of my

green house that happened during the last snow storm, -- LOL - GOTTA RUN - IT'S

FRACKING SNOWING AGAIN! AND I THOUGHT I HAD HALF A HOUR FOR  A COUP OF COFFEE!

-- SCREAM! - HOPE I'm sending this privately - you know what I mean about death,

and I do appologize if I came off hot-headed-- some times there are buttons

there when I'm tired -- just trying to get things fixed from the last snow storm

-- and now we have another!!! and the end of the greenhouse is down and was

waiting for repair-- just a moment ago when I came in to make coffee, temp was

falling but skies were BLUE! --

But that's the Sierra for you! -- oh great, and now wind! -- should be fun out

there! -- dang! -- sold my crops for a cup of coffee! -- OK, TWO cups of coffee!

- tell me how and what you sprout each CAN have it's own temp for sprouting most

efficiently - we have all had the temps of 68*F and 72*F for certain seeds to

start their germination - and of course the 'to hell and back' for parsley-

about 60 days of sitting in the ground - some seeds like a tiny bit of cooling

before they get warm again - some have been per-refrigerated -- but I've GOT to

go - even at 50-60 WPM and a hand that I first drove a graver into and then

burned on a min-torch!  scream! - ouch! -- but gotta get on the green house or

might as well not have it! -- thanks - this is the LAST chance I give to 'reply

to sender' if this goes public - and just remember that a healthy immune system

needs something to mobilize against - just like a country needs an enemy to fund

a military. 

GOTTA GO! SCREAM(ing into the snow and cold and wind!) ppaul

 

Dream Well. Travel Well.  May you Walk Your Path in Beauty.

" Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " Carl Sagan.

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>To: sproutpeople

>Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 4:58 PM

>Subject: Re: morals and product quality

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>Hi ,

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>Off sprouting topic. (Last time for me to do this, folks, I swear it.)

>Lovely day. Sun's shining. Feel good.

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>(By the way, thanks again for the previous post on soil micro-organisms.)

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>Hoo. Take my breath away. , This is light years from anything that was

going through my mind, however fleetingly, as I typed a note about the Braggs

that made me pause.

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>You know, each person can make connections from one piece of information to

another with lines of logic (or lack of them) that the next person cannot see. I

don't have any logic here, and I don't have any proof of anything, nor do I feel

either is required on a forum like this one (in a science laboratory, sure, or a

courtroom, naturally).

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>For me, in my random creative meanderings, it made me wonder if I could trust

all that

>I had read in Bragg books. No proof, it just made me wonder, They have kept up

this lie for decades, and their writing has been quoted by others I admire (Dr.

, the late herbalist).

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>I decided that I would have to be more careful about all information from all

sources. Now, in regard to sprouting, there are lots of little tips and

techniques I would love to learn, like optimum temperatures, how to grow sprouts

in the intense summer heat, and especially how to get minerals into the sprouts.

Whatever I read or hear, I'm going to test and experiment with myself, without

blindly believing. That was the positive result ofpausing to consider the

Braggs' morals - for me, and perhaps for a few others, but not everyone.

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>Those are the connections in my mind. I haven't been part of wars (though there

may be some coming. Who knows?) but my best buddy and ex-marine had lots of fun

in Grenada, my uncle fought bravely in the Atlantic, and my personal idol, Onoda

Hiro, who lives just south of us in Wakayama - and is a swell guy at 90 and

ticking - single-handedly shot and killed more than 28 civilians many years

after 'The Pacific War' had ended. The only thing these fine people have in

common is that they don't want to remember or talk about these wartime

experiences. (Suits me. I have seen enough dead bodies volunteering in hospices

and ushering in funeral homes (especially after dying in car accidents - of

course, the morticians did remarkable reconstructive work. Got to count your

blessings wherever they occur. right?).

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>What does any of this have to do with sprouts? I'm still looking...

>

>You have my sympathy for any unfortunate thoughts that come to mind from

whatever

>I post, but forgive me. It's beyond my control. I do make an effort to post

pleasant ideas, since I have no idea who may be reading - spinsters or

twelve-year-olds.

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>Is anyone still reading?

>

>I'd love to hear more about soil organisms. Really. Seriously. I'm interested

in this stuff and welcome input. Thanks again.

>

>Back to sprouting - and only sprouting.

>

>Peace, out.

>Duncan

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>> <SNIP> Bragg picked up his son's wife, , and she masqueraded as

his daughter.<SNIP>

>>

>> AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF A PRODUCT, EXACTLY HOW?

>>

>> I murdered and killed an helped do both (there's a difference) in 'Vietnam as

a weapons carrying Independent Corpsman -- am I not to be trusted? Does 'War'

make killing and murder and helping murder and kill people different than being

'hunted' and 'preyed' upon by street gangs in a city?  Please explain to me

how.  Has my research been tainted by my past?  Has the work I've done with

K-12 and Post-seconday and graduate students been for naught?  Please tell me -

really -- really.

>>

>> Did the little pieces of cloth of pretty colors and with some small stars and

a star and little 'V' on one make it all better?  Does the color make a

difference? If so how? -- I REALLY want to know if this is some snide

sanctimonious " I'm better than them " comment -- or if you REALLY believe that

what I've done in my past makes what I've done suspect and implied as worthless?

>>

>> Since the original was posted to the group - I reply to the group-- JUDGE

ME!  I DESIRE TO BE JUDGED AS A KILLER, MURDERER AND ONE WHO AIDED AND ABETTED

MURDER AND KILLING! PLEASE ANSWER ME THE SAY WAY YOU MALIGNED OTHERS FOR THEIR

PAST AND IMPLIED THE PRESENT IS THE SAME AS THEIR PAST! 

>>

>>  

>> Dream Well. Travel Well.  May you Walk Your Path in Beauty.

>>

>> " Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " Carl Sagan.

>>

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