Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 >> So can a negative top get HIV from commando topping a "healthy > non-detectable viral load" bottom? Unfortunately the answer is also "Yes, it is > true!" > My insight is that this is a risk you definitely do not want to take if you > wish to remain healthy. > Dr. Bob > I recall seeing a recent study which showed that an uncircumcised man has a four times higher risk of getting HIV from being a top than does a circumcised man. The belief is that it is because of the porous membrane under the foreskin. This has also been put forth as a theory as to why so many heterosexual men become infected in Africa and other countries outside of the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I recall seeing a recent study which showed that an uncircumcised man has a four times higher risk of getting HIV from being a top than does a circumcised man. The belief is that it is because of the porous membrane under the foreskin. This has also been put forth as a theory as to why so many heterosexual men become infected in Africa and other countries outside of the United States. ****** I have also seen data that there is a lot of HIV in the anal canal secretions...so I wonder also if that would not increase chances for an "exlcusive top " to get infected , specially if he has a sore or cut in the penis (or is uncut). But I have also seen a bunch of exclusive tops who bareback for years (many have poz boyfriends or girlfriends) and still remain negative (I used to be a HIV counselor for 4 years and used to give people the results of their HIV test). But I would not take a chance at all if I was negative! This virus brings too many complications in our lives! And it is not fun to tell people you sleep with or date about your status and then get rejected. VergelDirectorProgram for Wellness Restoration, PoWeRA 501 © 3 non profit national organizationLinks to our web sites:www.nelsonvergel.comwww.powerusa.orgwww.facialwasting.orgwww.salvagetherapies.orgJoin our free listservers by sending a blank email to:pozhealth-subscribe fuzeonsupport-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Darn tootin', they can! I am a perfect case in point: I got HIV from topping a hustler the first time I had anal sex! I was 17 and terribly naive. I didn't even know about lube then, so the encounter was kinda rough on my penis. I suspect that the lack of lube created a tear or abrasion for HIV to enter through. Within 10 days of the encounter I had a severe mono-like illness, which I later learned was accute HIV infection. > Anal Sex > (http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Current/Q160381.html? h29h#) > (http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Current/Q160381.html? h29h#) > Posted: Oct 21, 2004 > > > > > > How much risk is there for a negative top, to be fucking a positive bottom > with non detectable viral load and in good health taking Haart? I have heard > it to be extremely rare if at all possible for a top to contract HIV from a > positive bottom especially if there are no abrasions and the bottom is > non-detectable.... Could you give me some insight???? Thanks > > > (http://www.thebody.com/FORUMS/AIDS/Experts/Bio/rfrascino/rfrascino.ht ml) > Hi, > Unprotected anal sex with a partner known to be HIV positive carries the > highest possible risk for HIV transmission. Yes it is true: the receptive > partner is more at risk than the insertive partner. And yes it is true: having an > undetectable HIV viral load in the blood may decrease the risk of HIV > transmission. So can a negative top get HIV from commando topping a " healthy > non-detectable viral load " bottom? Unfortunately the answer is also " Yes, it is > true! " > My insight is that this is a risk you definitely do not want to take if you > wish to remain healthy. > Dr. Bob > > > Vergel > Director > Program for Wellness Restoration, PoWeR > A 501 © 3 non profit national organization > > Links to our web sites: > _www.nelsonvergel.com_ (http://www.nelsonvergel.com/) > _www.powerusa.org_ (http://www.powerusa.org/) > _www.facialwasting.org_ (http://www.facialwasting.org/) > _www.salvagetherapies.org_ (http://www.salvagetherapies.org/) > > Join our free listservers by sending a blank email to: > > pozhealth-subscribe > fuzeonsupport-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Something else to remember during this discussion is that an undetectable viral load while on HAART doesn't necessarily mean that the semen or rectal mucosa becomes virus-free as well. Yes, a reduction in viral load usually means a drop in the viral load in semen (or vaginal fluid) or in the rectal mucosa, but not always. And just like Brylcreem--a little dab'll do ya. So just think about what level of risk you're willing to accept, and if it's worth it. Jeff in San Deigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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