Re: measurements

May 28, 2009

Hi , that's great! Are you following CLX as written or did you modify it? If so, how?

Jen

Subject: measurementsTo: exercisevideos Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:35 PM

I found my measurements! !! from day 1 to day 30 of CLX.Bust - -2 in Waist - - 2 inHips - -1 1/2 inarms and thighs stayed the same measurementsGet this though, specific lbs lost - 7.4 BODY FAT 4 % that just goes to show... muscle burns fat!!! I can't believe I actually dropped that much body fat! I remember when it was above 30%. (12% on day 30) It will be interesting to see what day 60 will bring ( especially since my diet has slipped this month) We'll see. I think and hope it will be the same or better!!!

May 28, 2009

Hi ,

Congrats on the great results! Be careful about the body fat though, your body does need a certain amount of fat in order to work right. I'm at about 14% and was cautioned by a trainer not to drop any more, that I was already too far below the 20% recommended for women my age (42). I know having too low body fat in women can mess up your menstrual cycles (and cause you to not have any... which I'm not so sure is such a bad thing) and I'm sure it can do other not so great things. She asked me if I was having problems with that but because I was on a med (Tamoxifen) which totally messes up cycles I wasn't sure if the low body fat was also interfering or not. I'm finally off Tamoxifen now (which means I'm truly cancer free!!!!!!!!!! 5 year breast cancer survivor!!!!!!) and am waiting for my first Tamoxifen-free cycle. I've been told that one will be super out of whack but after that I'll know better what to expect. If it is still screwy I'll talk with my doctor about it and see if I need to (gasp) gain weight. I hope not! ;-)

measurements

I found my measurements!!! from day 1 to day 30 of CLX.Bust - -2 in Waist - - 2 inHips - -1 1/2 inarms and thighs stayed the same measurementsGet this though, specific lbs lost - 7.4 BODY FAT 4 % that just goes to show... muscle burns fat!!! I can't believe I actually dropped that much body fat! I remember when it was above 30%. (12% on day 30) It will be interesting to see what day 60 will bring ( especially since my diet has slipped this month) We'll see. I think and hope it will be the same or better!!!

May 28, 2009

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I saw your post and had to say CONGRATULATIONS on being FIVE years cancer free!That is huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you celebrate?

I just hit 3 years cancer free. How was Tamoxifen for you aside from the cycle side effects? I didn't take it - I decided to really work on eating lots of veggies mainly the cabbage family. I just had a follow up visit today and everything is going fine. I was just so happy for you when I read your post!

Hi ,

Congrats on the great results! Be careful about the body fat though, your body does need a certain amount of fat in order to work right. I'm at about 14% and was cautioned by a trainer not to drop any more, that I was already too far below the 20% recommended for women my age (42). I know having too low body fat in women can mess up your menstrual cycles (and cause you to not have any... which I'm not so sure is such a bad thing) and I'm sure it can do other not so great things. She asked me if I was having problems with that but because I was on a med (Tamoxifen) which totally messes up cycles I wasn't sure if the low body fat was also interfering or not. I'm finally off Tamoxifen now (which means I'm truly cancer free!!!!!!!!!! 5 year breast cancer survivor!!!!!!) and am waiting for my first Tamoxifen-free cycle. I've been told that one will be super out of whack but after that I'll know better what to expect. If it is still screwy I'll talk with my doctor about it and see if I need to (gasp) gain weight. I hope not! ;-)

measurements

I found my measurements!!! from day 1 to day 30 of CLX.Bust - -2 in Waist - - 2 inHips - -1 1/2 inarms and thighs stayed the same measurementsGet this though, specific lbs lost - 7.4 BODY FAT 4 % that just goes to show... muscle burns fat!!! I can't believe I actually dropped that much body fat! I remember when it was above 30%. (12% on day 30) It will be interesting to see what day 60 will bring ( especially since my diet has slipped this month) We'll see. I think and hope it will be the same or better!!!

We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com.

May 28, 2009

WOOHOO!! FABULOUS! That's superb! Extra congrats on the decreased

waist measurement. You just did something fabulous for your health.

-- who can't wait to get her sent, even though I accidentally

flubbed the mailiing addy, but Beachbody dealt with it wonderfully. (I

ordered on the day that I had lost my glasses, LOL).

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:35 PM, kellyboatright@...

wrote:

> I found my measurements!!! from day 1 to day 30 of CLX.

>

> Bust - -2 in

>

> Waist - - 2 in

>

> Hips - -1 1/2 in

>

> arms and thighs stayed the same measurements

>

> Get this though, specific lbs lost - 7.4

>

> BODY FAT 4 %

>

> that just goes to show... muscle burns fat!!!

>

> I can't believe I actually dropped that much body fat! I remember when it was

above 30%. (12% on day 30) It will be interesting to see what day 60 will bring

( especially since my diet has slipped this month) We'll see. I think and hope

it will be the same or better!!!

>

> ------------------------------------

>

May 29, 2009

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Wow, , I didn't know there was another survivor in this group!!! Congratulations to you too on being 3 years cancer free!!! That is super awesome!!! I kind of celebrated, I was really stressed, tired and super busy the day before but I also did the Survivor dinner and lap at our local American Cancer Society Relay for Life with other breast cancer survivor friends who I work with and told them and they all cheered for me which was nice. It was nice being with other people who knew exactly what I was feeling that day. They are inspirations too because they've been survivors longer. DH & I are going to go out to dinner at some point, just us, to celebrate I think. He wanted to do something big that day but I just couldn't. I scrapbooked at my best friend's house with her and other friends on the day I actually took the last pill and my friend's there were also really happy for me. The kids celebrated with me too. They were 2 & 5 when I was diagnosed and sort of remember it but not really. One of Miriam's classmate's mom's just lost her own fight (age 35) though this past October and Miriam was very aware of that but didn't connect it strongly with me thankfully.

Aside from the cycle side effects (which were hugely annoying but at least it didn't send me into menopause... I had just turned 37 when I was diagnosed), it was okay. I didn't have any menopausal symptoms or other issues. I took part in a study for the first year and among other things it was looking at, my bone mass, which was already really good looked like the tamoxifen had improved it too. I had one doc tell me it was optional for me to take it, since my cancer was caught very early (I had to have a mastectomy but no rads or chemo). Another doc suggested I should because they actually found two different kinds of cancer, one of which was a type that doesn't spread (DCIS) but did have very aggressive cells, and the other, which was called a micro invasion (less than 3 mm), was a kind that does spread (lobular carcinoma). I decided to take the tamoxifen. I also did not have healthy eating or exercise habits in place at the time and knew I would not, especially under the circumstances, do myself a lot of good with nutrition or other healthy living habits. I wanted to but it still took me a year after diagnosis to finally work on losing weight and another year after that to start exercising and really eating well. It was the right decision for me. It gave me more peace of mind than I would have had and that alone was very powerful I think. It was a little scary to stop taking it because of that but also very liberating too.

Thanks for celebrating with me and I am so happy for you too!!!

Hugs,

measurements

I found my measurements!!! from day 1 to day 30 of CLX.Bust - -2 in Waist - - 2 inHips - -1 1/2 inarms and thighs stayed the same measurementsGet this though, specific lbs lost - 7.4 BODY FAT 4 % that just goes to show... muscle burns fat!!! I can't believe I actually dropped that much body fat! I remember when it was above 30%. (12% on day 30) It will be interesting to see what day 60 will bring ( especially since my diet has slipped this month) We'll see. I think and hope it will be the same or better!!!

We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com.

May 30, 2009

Too little body fat will mess up your cycles and cause an inability to have

children, as well as other biological problems. Fat is the primary

component of cell walls, so you have to have some of it to survive.

How are you doing your body fat analysis? I'm curious because some ways of

determining it will show a lower percentage then what is accurate. If you

are still having a roll around the belly that is fat, then you aren't in the

teens with body fat. So, if it is an accurate way of doing body fat

(bio-impedance or hydrostatic weighing are the most accurate), then I would

guess it is the excess skin. Unfortunately, the only way to get rid of

excess skin is with plastic surgery.

Tonya

Re: measurements

wrote:

>

>Be careful about the body fat though, your body does need a certain amount

of fat in >order to work right. I'm at about 14% and was cautioned by a

trainer not to drop any >more, that I was already too far below the 20%

recommended for women my age (42).

That's interesting. I've never heard such a thing. I was under the

impression ,especially with belly fat, it's a bad thing. Not to mention,

unattractive.

I don't want to be totally without fat, bodybuilderish. I would like to be

able to sit without having a layer of fat laying on my lap. I would like to

have a six pack (which I'm pretty sure I have but it's hiding behind the

belly fat.) Of course, i'd like to know how much of the belly stuff on me is

fat vs extra skin. ( I'd been overweight, actually obese, for some time and

had two really big babies...9lbs and 9.3lbs, my first was only 7.8 but he

didn't have enough room to go and was born with club foot. (all better now,

had surgery at 6 months old or he wouldn't of been able to walk.) Yeah, so

I was huge!!! And at only 5.3. my skin stretched out to the max!

>(which means I'm truly cancer free!!!!!!!!!! 5 year breast cancer

survivor!!!!!!)

Congratulations!!!!!

------------------------------------

May 30, 2009

Hi Darcy,

I'm not sure I understand your numbers. Your "underfat" (meaning not enough fat??) is higher than the numbers you say are right for men or women. I was told around 20% is good for women my age (41 at the time I had my body fat checked by a trainer using a professional model Tanita scale, not sure if that is very accurate or not, just assuming it is but might be wrong).

Re: Re: measurements

Yes, the body has to have fat for proper function. For women, thatnumber is around 10 - 13%, and for men it's around 2 - 4%."Underfat" would be 5 - 7% for men and 14 - 20% for women. Thesepercents will vary a bit depending on age.DarcyOn Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:46 AM, kellyboatrightymail<kellyboatrightymail> wrote:>> That's interesting. I've never heard such a thing. I was under the> impression ,especially with belly fat, it's a bad thing. Not to mention,> unattractive.

May 30, 2009

Carrying excess fat around the belly is considered higher risk for heart issues especially but, as Tonya explained much better than I can, we need a certain amount of body fat for proper functioning and you can't control where your body deposits fat either. You might google it or check a medical website for more info. When I lost my weight I lost my love handles and my DH was a bit bummed because he liked being able to put his hand there as we walked together (he got over it though)! I have very low body fat and until recently still seemed to have what appeared to be too much fat around my stomach but a trainer told me I just needed to work on toning my core. I had two c-sections so that didn't help matters but it turns out she was right. I've been working abs pretty hard the last few months and I'm finally seeing some definition and much less of what I thought was fat. Hopefully you will have similar results soon too!

Thanks on the congrats too!

Re: measurements

wrote:>> >Be careful about the body fat though, your body does need a certain amount of fat in >order to work right. I'm at about 14% and was cautioned by a trainer not to drop any >more, that I was already too far below the 20% recommended for women my age (42).That's interesting. I've never heard such a thing. I was under the impression ,especially with belly fat, it's a bad thing. Not to mention, unattractive.I don't want to be totally without fat, bodybuilderish. I would like to be able to sit without having a layer of fat laying on my lap. I would like to have a six pack (which I'm pretty sure I have but it's hiding behind the belly fat.) Of course, i'd like to know how much of the belly stuff on me is fat vs extra skin. ( I'd been overweight, actually obese, for some time and had two really big babies...9lbs and 9.3lbs, my first was only 7.8 but he didn't have enough room to go and was born with club foot. (all better now, had surgery at 6 months old or he wouldn't of been able to walk.) Yeah, so I was huge!!! And at only 5.3. my skin stretched out to the max!>(which means I'm truly cancer free!!!!!!!!!! 5 year breast cancer survivor!!!!!!) Congratulations!!!!!

May 30, 2009

Correct. I took those numbers off of a chart from ISSA. Obviously

the essential fat would be " way underfat " too..LOL... The underfat

would mean that your body would function properly, but still

considered underfat. Whereas if you didn't have the essential fat,

your organs would not function properly. Make sense?

Tonya help out. I am TERRIBLE at trying to explain.... LOL..

Darcy

> Your " underfat " (meaning not enough fat??) is higher than the numbers you

> say are right for men or women. I was told around 20% is good for women my

> age (41 at the time I had my body fat checked by a trainer using a

> professional model Tanita scale, not sure if that is very accurate or not,

> just assuming it is but might be wrong).

>

May 30, 2009

That's exactly right. Essential fat is just the amount of fat that your

body has to have in order to properly function. Underfat is above

essential, but still lower then optimal. Kinda like underweight is between

ideal weight and in a state of starvation.

Tonya

Re: Re: measurements

Correct. I took those numbers off of a chart from ISSA. Obviously

the essential fat would be " way underfat " too..LOL... The underfat

would mean that your body would function properly, but still

considered underfat. Whereas if you didn't have the essential fat,

your organs would not function properly. Make sense?

Tonya help out. I am TERRIBLE at trying to explain.... LOL..

Darcy

> Your " underfat " (meaning not enough fat??) is higher than the numbers you

> say are right for men or women. I was told around 20% is good for women my

> age (41 at the time I had my body fat checked by a trainer using a

> professional model Tanita scale, not sure if that is very accurate or not,

> just assuming it is but might be wrong).

>

------------------------------------

May 30, 2009

" Tonya - " wrote:

>

> Too little body fat will mess up your cycles and cause an inability to have

> children, as well as other biological problems. Fat is the primary

> component of cell walls, so you have to have some of it to survive.

>

> How are you doing your body fat analysis? I'm curious because some ways of

> determining it will show a lower percentage then what is accurate. If you

> are still having a roll around the belly that is fat, then you aren't in the

> teens with body fat. So, if it is an accurate way of doing body fat

> (bio-impedance or hydrostatic weighing are the most accurate), then I would

> guess it is the excess skin. Unfortunately, the only way to get rid of

> excess skin is with plastic surgery.

>

I'm using the pinchy body fat tester that came with CLX. It's the only thing I

got. I know it's not the most accurate, however, it still gives you a good idea.

I would love to have plastic surgery! i asked dh if I could when I get to my

goal of 125 at first he was like sure but now that I'm so close he doesn't want

me to. I'd rather wait too b/c I want a really good experienced doctor, than the

ones around here. I hear there is a way they do it now where they pull

everything to the belly button instead of pulling it down and having a huge

scar. the scar would be the remake of your belly button. (My sister knows a girl

in FL that had it done that way, and she looks great. No more stretch marks and

flat belly with no scar.

May 30, 2009

Yeah, you could be getting as much as 10 to 15% low with calipers. That's

why I love my calipers! LOL

Re: measurements

" Tonya - " wrote:

>

> Too little body fat will mess up your cycles and cause an inability to

have

> children, as well as other biological problems. Fat is the primary

> component of cell walls, so you have to have some of it to survive.

>

> How are you doing your body fat analysis? I'm curious because some ways

of

> determining it will show a lower percentage then what is accurate. If you

> are still having a roll around the belly that is fat, then you aren't in

the

> teens with body fat. So, if it is an accurate way of doing body fat

> (bio-impedance or hydrostatic weighing are the most accurate), then I

would

> guess it is the excess skin. Unfortunately, the only way to get rid of

> excess skin is with plastic surgery.

>

I'm using the pinchy body fat tester that came with CLX. It's the only thing

I got. I know it's not the most accurate, however, it still gives you a good

idea.

I would love to have plastic surgery! i asked dh if I could when I get to my

goal of 125 at first he was like sure but now that I'm so close he doesn't

want me to. I'd rather wait too b/c I want a really good experienced doctor,

than the ones around here. I hear there is a way they do it now where they

pull everything to the belly button instead of pulling it down and having a

huge scar. the scar would be the remake of your belly button. (My sister

knows a girl in FL that had it done that way, and she looks great. No more

stretch marks and flat belly with no scar.

------------------------------------

May 30, 2009

Hi -

That is great you had so much support! And others around on the day of the LAST pill:-) Yes, a dinner is definitely in order:-) A great way to celebrate.

Every time I hit a year mark I got another ear piercing, doubles and then triples. This year I didn't want anymore so my husband and I went out:-) It is nice to celebrate - it is so special.

I am so glad your cancer was caught early. That is so encouraging. Mine was too and I am so thankful. I had a lumpectomy and 8 weeks of radiation. It wasn't too bad really. That is great you are eating so well and exercising. I really think that and attitude play such a big part in recovery. You have a wonderful attitude too:-)

Keep up the great work!

We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com.

May 30, 2009

Thank you Tonya, you're so good at explaining. I'm horrible..ugh..

Darcy

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tonya -

wrote:

>

> That's exactly right. Essential fat is just the amount of fat that your

> body has to have in order to properly function. Underfat is above

> essential, but still lower then optimal. Kinda like underweight is between

> ideal weight and in a state of starvation.

>

May 30, 2009

Okay, I get it now. That term "underfat" threw me. Still does too, what does it mean (besides what the numbers mean, I'm just talking about the term... I'm a language nut, sorry).

Anyway, now I understand why the trainer seemed concerned that my body fat (according to the scale which I realize is not as accurate as other methods) seemed so low and that my weight was too. Meanwhile, my response was just giddiness! ;-) She suggested I should weigh about 5 or 10 pounds more than I normally do and that if I do have any problems with my cycle off tamoxifen that I should consider gaining weight (and I'm sure you can guess how I felt/feel about that particular suggestion). Will talk with my doc if I do. At this point, it will probably just be perimenopause though! ;-)

RE: Re: measurements

That's exactly right. Essential fat is just the amount of fat that yourbody has to have in order to properly function. Underfat is aboveessential, but still lower then optimal. Kinda like underweight is betweenideal weight and in a state of starvation.Tonya-----Original Message-----From: exercisevideos [mailto:exercisevideos ]On Behalf Of Darcy LedmanSent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:08 PMTo: exercisevideos Subject: Re: Re: measurementsCorrect. I took those numbers off of a chart from ISSA. Obviouslythe essential fat would be "way underfat" too..LOL... The underfatwould mean that your body would function properly, but stillconsidered underfat. Whereas if you didn't have the essential fat,your organs would not function properly. Make sense?Tonya help out. I am TERRIBLE at trying to explain.... LOL..DarcyOn Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:45 PM, <nancydewolfsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:> Your "underfat" (meaning not enough fat??) is higher than the numbers you> say are right for men or women. I was told around 20% is good for women my> age (41 at the time I had my body fat checked by a trainer using a> professional model Tanita scale, not sure if that is very accurate or not,> just assuming it is but might be wrong).>------------------------------------

May 31, 2009

I thought that no one can spot reduce an area such as the abs. I thought that in order to lose the fat around your middle that you have to do cardio to burn off the fat all over the whole body then do core work to shape the muscles. From what I've read in Shape. Self and from online articles, ab fat is usually the last to go. Jen>> >Be careful about the body fat though, your body does need a certain amount of fat in >order to work right. I'm at about 14% and was cautioned by a trainer not to drop any >more, that I was already too far below the 20% recommended for women my age (42).That's interesting. I've never heard such a thing. I was under the impression ,especially with belly fat, it's a bad thing. Not to mention, unattractive.I don't want to be totally without fat, bodybuilderish. I would like to be able to sit without having a layer of fat laying on my lap. I would like to have a six pack (which I'm pretty sure I have but it's hiding behind the belly fat.) Of course, i'd like to know how much of the belly stuff on me is fat vs extra skin. ( I'd been overweight, actually obese, for some time and had two really big babies...9lbs and 9.3lbs, my first was only 7.8 but he didn't have enough room to go and was born with club foot. (all better now, had surgery at 6 months old or he wouldn't of been able to walk.) Yeah, so I was huge!!! And at only 5.3. my skin stretched out to the max!>(which means I'm truly cancer free!!!!!!!! !! 5 year breast cancer survivor!!!! !!) Congratulations! !!!!

May 31, 2009

Hi , I would rather not post my food here because in the past I felt somewhat criticized rather than given positive feedback. Yes I snack on nuts but not a lot just a handful. I can't follow the schedule because I can't do CLX's cardio workouts because they are too hard for me right now and I felt some pain in my knees and I don't want to risk hurting them. I'm going as heavy as I can in the weights. I record if the weight was heavy enough, too heavy or too light so that I know what to use next time I do that workout. Jen

Subject: Re: measurementsTo: exercisevideos Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:41 PM

Jen,

>My food is pretty good but I'm going to start writing down what I eat.

Good idea!!!! Share it with us and we'll give you pointers! Like... do you snack?

>

> p.s. I'm thinking of doing CLX strength workout every other day, do you think that will be ok?

I'd stick to the schedule. Go heavier with the weights. Add more cardio if you want more.

>

> > Hi , that's great! Are you following CLX as written or did you modify it? If so, how?

I did modify the Recharge video. I didn't care for it so I did another KS yogo and now I do Extreme Abs instead.

> I was very good with my eating up til the end of the month. We went out to eat 2 sundays in a row and I went crazy on the yummies! No specific diet. Just the new way I eat. I say I average 1600 calories a day. But I really don't focus on that. If I'm hungry.... I eat!

>

> BF is usually light-

>

> Activia w/ strawberries added or

>

> multi grain cherrios w/ banana in skim milk or

>

> s. eggs w/ cheese/and an orange

>

> or

>

> skakeology

>

> mid morning snack-

>

> p90x bars - after weight training days! right after workout. I only get 3/4's of it b/c my

>

> girls want some.

>

> or

>

> Fiber Plus Antioxd. bars - I really like them both but I've been doing the dark

>

> chocolate/almond one instead of the milk chocolate one

>

> Lunch-

>

> Shakelology if I didnt have it for b.f. or

>

> tuna w/ crackers or on w.w.bread or

>

> leftovers

>

> mid day snack -

>

> granny smith apple with p.b on top -- yummy!!! or

>

> activia w/ strawberries or

>

> orange or

>

> sun chips or

>

> Fiber Plus Antiox bars

>

> dinner -

>

> something healthy - protien, veggies

>

> Hope this helps. I see you do a lot of BB stuff. Turbo Jam is a fav of mine also. I got started with my weight loss doing Hip Hop Abs. Are you a coach also or a bb member? If so, what is your screen name? I'll add you as a workout buddy.

>

> BB coach BeSexyNow

>

> www.fitnesspaystoda y.com

>

May 31, 2009

Hmm.. I don't believe that statement is accurate. It's where you gain

first is going to be the last to go. That could vary from person to

person. For instance, besides my bloat, I have little fat on my

stomach. However, my saddle bag area............

Darcy

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:15 AM, from Michigan

wrote:

>

> From what I've read in Shape. Self and from online articles, ab fat is

> usually the last to go.

May 31, 2009

tell me about it LOL fitness blogmy domainSpecial Needs Scouting Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they donâ€™t want to impress people they donâ€™t like.-Will

From what I've read in Shape. Self and from online articles, ab fat is usually the last to go.

May 31, 2009

You’re right Jen, you can’t spot reduce. But if you don’t work

your abs enough, even if there is very little fat there, it will look like fat

because the muscle is soft. Strengthening the muscle will tighten it up and

make it act like a girdle and squeeze in. It’s a trick we trainers use to help

people who want to lose in the belly first too. That girdle effect will

squeeze in some of the remaining fat so it seems like you’ve lost it before you

actually do.

Tonya

From: exercisevideos

[mailto:exercisevideos ] On Behalf Of from

Michigan

Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 3:15 AM

To: exercisevideos

Subject: Re: Re: measurements

I thought that no one can spot reduce an area

such as the abs. I thought that in order to lose the fat around your

middle that you have to do cardio to burn off the fat all over the whole body

then do core work to shape the muscles.

From what I've read in Shape. Self and from online articles, ab

fat is usually the last to go.

Jen

>

>Be careful about the body fat though, your body does need a certain

amount of fat in >order to work right. I'm at about 14% and was cautioned

by a trainer not to drop any >more, that I was already too far below the

20% recommended for women my age (42).

That's interesting. I've never heard such a thing. I was under the impression

,especially with belly fat, it's a bad thing. Not to mention, unattractive.

I don't want to be totally without fat, bodybuilderish. I would like to be

able to sit without having a layer of fat laying on my lap. I would like to

have a six pack (which I'm pretty sure I have but it's hiding behind the

belly fat.) Of course, i'd like to know how much of the belly stuff on me is

fat vs extra skin. ( I'd been overweight, actually obese, for some time and

had two really big babies...9lbs and 9.3lbs, my first was only 7.8 but he

didn't have enough room to go and was born with club foot. (all better now,

had surgery at 6 months old or he wouldn't of been able to walk.) Yeah, so I

was huge!!! And at only 5.3. my skin stretched out to the max!

>(which means I'm truly cancer free!!!!!!!! !! 5 year breast cancer

survivor!!!! !!)

Congratulations! !!!!

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May 31, 2009

Okay, let’s see if this makes more sense. You know

about cars needing oil, right. Ideally, they have somewhere between 4 and

6 quarts depending on the size of the engine. The 4-6 quarts would be the

optimal amount of fat and correlates to the 20%ish mark of body fat. At

that level, both the car and the body run great. When the car starts

burning oil and gets down to 3-5 quarts (again depending on size, kinda

like body fat depends on gender), you might hear a knock in the engine or a

sputter, and when it gets to 1 to 2 quarts, your car won’t run because

the oil isn’t there to do its thing in the engine. If you drop

below the optimal amount of body fat, your body will still function, but not perform

at its peak. That’s Underfat. If you drop below the

essential, things will quit working in the body. It won’t

kill you immediately, just like running out of oil won’t kill your car

immediately. But eventually, you will see the negative health effects.

Tonya

From:

exercisevideos [mailto:exercisevideos ] On

Behalf Of nancydewolf@...

Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:44 PM

To: exercisevideos

Subject: Re: Re: measurements

Okay,

I get it now. That term " underfat " threw me. Still does too, what

does it mean (besides what the numbers mean, I'm just talking about the term...

I'm a language nut, sorry).

Anyway,

now I understand why the trainer seemed concerned that my body fat (according

to the scale which I realize is not as accurate as other methods) seemed so low

and that my weight was too. Meanwhile, my response was just giddiness!

;-) She suggested I should weigh about 5 or 10 pounds more than I

normally do and that if I do have any problems with my cycle off tamoxifen that

I should consider gaining weight (and I'm sure you can guess how I felt/feel

about that particular suggestion). Will talk with my doc if I do. At this

point, it will probably just be perimenopause though! ;-)

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From: Tonya -

To: exercisevideos

Sent: Saturday, May 30,

2009 9:16 PM

Subject: RE: [Exercise

Videos] Re: measurements

That's exactly right. Essential fat is just the

amount of fat that your

body has to have in order to properly function. Underfat is above

essential, but still lower then optimal. Kinda like underweight is between

ideal weight and in a state of starvation.

Tonya

Re: Re: measurements

Correct. I took those numbers off of a chart from ISSA. Obviously

the essential fat would be " way underfat " too..LOL... The underfat

would mean that your body would function properly, but still

considered underfat. Whereas if you didn't have the essential fat,

your organs would not function properly. Make sense?

Tonya help out. I am TERRIBLE at trying to explain.... LOL..

Darcy

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:45 PM,

wrote:

> Your " underfat " (meaning not enough fat??) is higher than the

numbers you

> say are right for men or women. I was told around 20% is good for women my

> age (41 at the time I had my body fat checked by a trainer using a

> professional model Tanita scale, not sure if that is very accurate or not,

> just assuming it is but might be wrong).

>

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May 31, 2009

I said that you had to do core work which is the entire core in order to strengthen the muscles. I will still need to do a TON of cardio to get rid of these abs. I think I will start doing Power 90's T-100 ab burner on my cardio days. It's shorter and effective. My abs are so weak and they're weaker now since my abdominal hysterectomy so I know it will take a long time to strengthen them. Jen