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Now, looking back, I believe was born with Autism too. Right from the start, the minute he came out and he did not cry. I asked why is my baby not crying and they said he is content and wants his mommy. Then he did cry. But, from the time he was born, till about 6 mths we could not go anywhere where there were people, because would cry contstantly and not stop till I took him to a place where it was just him and I or just us, as in our family here at home, and my mom for the most part. After 6 mths, he was the perfect baby, would go anywhere and was happy and would not cry hardly at all.

Stacie

I do know that kids are born with autism and that nothing induces the autism in any way. I am not being judgemental just honest. If you really believe that injsctions caused your sons autism go for it but you will get nowwhere but don't take me word for it do it if you know it for sureAnn

Subject: Re: This is good news...............To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:53 AM

Ann,

I know my son and I know what happened to him. Why are you so judgamental about some things you don't know anything about? do you know my son????? No!! Do I know your grandson?? NO! This is a group that is to be here for everyone not condem everything someone says because you think you know it all!!!!!!! Thats it!!!!!! I am not saying anything else to you. Lois

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Well, I have to add to this too. Today at the Dr, we were taling about all three of my kids. Now, and are from Jim, and Lexie is from a previous relationship. She said we will talk about this more next week, but she said both of the ones from your husband have Autism and your child from someone else does not have it. It is on your husbands side more then likely. And, he has a cousin who has a child with severe Autism too. And all three of my kids got the same shots too. So, like I said, I am on the fence about alot of this, but wont say one way or another because I rfeally cant say I know for sure. That is just my two cents.

Stacie

Ann, I only check this site everyother day. where did you get that a child is made up like this? And then tell me the rate of allergies and the ffects that children have and then tell me the latest topic on this and then tell me when the EPIDEMIC of autism started? Yes I said EPIDEMIC. Besides our world is falling apart financially the children of tommorrow have a epidemic growing faster than cancer and you want to tell me it is genetics! THis is a governmental cover up. Sorry friends I cant take these comments anymore. KATHY-- In AutismBehaviorProblems , ann jones wrote:>> Well sorry but from what we have been told the autism is there from birth and does not in any way come fronm any shots your child has otherwise the sueing rate for this would be ernormous. There is no way that autism is caused by anything else but in the make up of the child, and when people stop trying to blame outside affects then we may be able to move on and to be blunt at 18months old you could not have been sure wether or not he had autism or not as is so hard to diagnose in young babies> Ann> > > Subject: Re: This is good news...............> To: AutismBehaviorProblems > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ann,> I have proof that J's autism came from the > shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old. I found out > they were "HOT SHOTS"/ that means that the lot number on them was bad. other > children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I don't think all > autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!! I love my son > to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an advacate for > my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois> > Re: This is good > news........ .......>

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[Guest guest]

Ann,

I have proof that J's autism came from the shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old. I found out they were "HOT SHOTS"/ that means that the lot number on them was bad. other children had die,gotten autism,etc,,,,,from that batch. No-I don't think all autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love my son to bits!!!!!!!!! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an advacate for my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

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Hi, can you explain these hot shots to me? In my sons case I believe

the shots did this to him. Not everyone can handle any substance.

this could mean foods drugs, ect. My son had terrible ezema at one

month old. I thought it was from all of the oil that he had put on

himfrom his batism. this ezama turned up one day after his baptism.

OnOne month later he received 5 shots. He still had a terrible out

break with ezama. He had a auto immune disease happening. He was

technically sick but was still given shots. Whether the mercury did

this or all of the viruses put together I dont know. I do know when I

seperated the shots when he was five, the first shot he recieved was

pertussis. his arm swelled up unimaginablly. All the nurses even came

to see him. My son has allergies. Not every one can handle

everything. He has not had anymore shots since. I wont allow. this

is the problem. Thanks for listening. Kathy

>

> Ann,

> I have proof that J's autism came from the shots. he had 2 shots

given to him when he was 18 months old. I found out they were " HOT

SHOTS " / that means that the lot number on them was bad. other children

had die,gotten autism,etc,,,,,from that batch. No-I don't think all

autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! I

love my son to bits!!!!!!!!! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have

been an advacate for my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

> Re: This is good news...............

>

[Guest guest]

Well sorry but from what we have been told the autism is there from birth and does not in any way come fronm any shots your child has otherwise the sueing rate for this would be ernormous. There is no way that autism is caused by anything else but in the make up of the child, and when people stop trying to blame outside affects then we may be able to move on and to be blunt at 18months old you could not have been sure wether or not he had autism or not as is so hard to diagnose in young babiesAnnSubject: Re: This is good news...............To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16

AM

Ann,

I have proof that J's autism came from the shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old. I found out they were "HOT SHOTS"/ that means that the lot number on them was bad. other children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I don't think all autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!! I love my son to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an advacate for my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

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[Guest guest]

And if you have proof how much you sueing them for. Omg is nothing to do with it get on with caring for your child instead of trying to blame it on other thingsAnnSubject: Re: This is good news...............To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM

Ann,

I have proof that J's autism came from the shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old. I found out they were "HOT SHOTS"/ that means that the lot number on them was bad. other children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I don't think all autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!! I love my son to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an advacate for my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

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Ann,

I know my son and I know what happened to him. Why are you so judgamental about some things you don't know anything about? do you know my son????? No!! Do I know your grandson?? NO! This is a group that is to be here for everyone not condem everything someone says because you think you know it all!!!!!!! Thats it!!!!!! I am not saying anything else to you. Lois

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Kathy,

Please go to this site..... http://www.nvic.org// and click on the "Search vaccine Reaction Database" and it should tell you about the Hot shot numbers. ((HUGS)) Lois

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[Guest guest]

I do know that kids are born with autism and that nothing induces the autism in any way. I am not being judgemental just honest. If you really believe that injsctions caused your sons autism go for it but you will get nowwhere but don't take me word for it do it if you know it for sureAnnSubject: Re: This is good news...............To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:53 AM

Ann,

I know my son and I know what happened to him. Why are you so judgamental about some things you don't know anything about? do you know my son????? No!! Do I know your grandson?? NO! This is a group that is to be here for everyone not condem everything someone says because you think you know it all!!!!!!! Thats it!!!!!! I am not saying anything else to you. Lois

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[Guest guest]

Ann, I only check this site everyother day. where did you get that a

child is made up like this? And then tell me the rate of allergies

and the ffects that children have and then tell me the latest topic

on this and then tell me when the EPIDEMIC of autism started? Yes I

said EPIDEMIC. Besides our world is falling apart financially the

children of tommorrow have a epidemic growing faster than cancer and

you want to tell me it is genetics! THis is a governmental cover

up. Sorry friends I cant take these comments anymore. KATHY

-- In AutismBehaviorProblems , ann jones

wrote:

>

> Well sorry but from what we have been told the autism is there from

birth and does not in any way come fronm any shots your child has

otherwise the sueing rate for this would be ernormous. There is no

way that autism is caused by anything else but in the make up of the

child, and when people stop trying to blame outside affects then we

may be able to move on and to be blunt at 18months old you could not

have been sure wether or not he had autism or not as is so hard to

diagnose in young babies

> Ann

>

>

> Subject: Re: This is good news...............

> To: AutismBehaviorProblems

> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM

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>  I have proof that J's autism came from the

> shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old.  I

found out

> they were " HOT SHOTS " / that means that the lot number on them was

bad. other

> children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I don't

think all

> autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!!

I love my son

> to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an

advacate for

> my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

>

> Re: This is good

> news........ .......

>

[Guest guest]

Tell me why there is such a EPIDEMIC!!!

-- In AutismBehaviorProblems , ann jones

wrote:

>

> I do know that kids are born with autism and that nothing induces

the autism in any way. I am not being judgemental just honest. If you

really believe that injsctions caused your sons autism go for it but

you will get nowwhere but don't take me word for it do it if you know

it for sure

> Ann

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> Subject: Re: This is good news...............

> To: AutismBehaviorProblems

> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:53 AM

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>  I know my son and I know what happened to

> him. Why are you so judgamental about some things you don't know

anything about?

> do you know my son????? No!! Do I know your grandson?? NO! This is

a group that

> is to be here for everyone not condem everything someone says

because you think

> you know it all!!!!!!! Thats it!!!!!! I am not saying anything else

to you.

> Lois

>

> Re: This is good

> news........ .......

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks lois. I am now realy worked up with this topic. I know that I

have seen a differnce in my son since I have been detoxifying him.

Kathy

-- In AutismBehaviorProblems , " lois noland "

wrote:

>

> Kathy,

> Please go to this site..... http://www.nvic.org// and click on

the " Search vaccine Reaction Database " and it should tell you about the

Hot shot numbers. ((HUGS)) Lois

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[Guest guest]

Kathy,

What all have you been doing? thanks, Lois

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In my opinion (for what it is worth) autism has different causes and no one cause will be found. I know was born with it and the lack of oxygen he experienced during labor probably played a part. I believe there will be a genetic predisposition to the disorder and an environmental incident that activated it. Not every child who has lack of oxygen will end up autistic, shots do not give all kids autism but in some it is the trigger, the trigger could be viral or an infection. It makes me so sad that we add this fight to the list of all of the stress and challenges we face daily. We all have different experiences and different ideas of the how and whys of autism but we all have the SAME love for an autistic child. We should accept each others points of

view and move on. I don't want to change yours or want you to try to convince me to change mine. I just want to share this journey with other people who can understand and be able to give and receive advice and support. I love this group. Kellie

To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:02:26 PMSubject: Re: This is good news................

Ann, I only check this site everyother day. where did you get that a child is made up like this? And then tell me the rate of allergies and the ffects that children have and then tell me the latest topic on this and then tell me when the EPIDEMIC of autism started? Yes I said EPIDEMIC. Besides our world is falling apart financially the children of tommorrow have a epidemic growing faster than cancer and you want to tell me it is genetics! THis is a governmental cover up. Sorry friends I cant take these comments anymore. KATHY-- In AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com, ann jones <f.iddie@... > wrote:>> Well sorry but from what we have been told the autism is there from birth and does not in any way come fronm any shots your child has

otherwise the sueing rate for this would be ernormous. There is no way that autism is caused by anything else but in the make up of the child, and when people stop trying to blame outside affects then we may be able to move on and to be blunt at 18months old you could not have been sure wether or not he had autism or not as is so hard to diagnose in young babies> Ann> > > Subject: Re: This is good news........ .......> To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> Ann,> I have proof that J's autism came from the > shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old. I found out > they were "HOT SHOTS"/ that means that the lot number on them was bad. other > children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I don't think all > autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!! I love my son > to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an advacate for > my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois> > Re: This is good > news........ .......>

[Guest guest]

Ok Autism is in a childs genes. When my grandson was diagnosed, at the age of ten, after being labled and disruptive and a bad child we were to be honest a bit relieved as it did explain a lot of his behaviour. As we asked a lot of questionsespecially my daughter as she felt some how it was maybe something she had or had not done, we got a lot of answers and one of them was about injections. We were told there was no way any injections that would in any way cause or contribute to the autism. It is now known that it is in the biological make up of the child. As for an epicdemic of autism I dont think so, I think it has been made more aware and as the different scopes of autism ranges so wiild that a lot of of autistic kids were not diagnosed right .A goverment cover up I don't think so .I don't know where you live but I bet you are in

a place where you will try to blame any one apart from nature Ann

>

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> To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM

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> Ann,

> I have proof that J's autism came from the

> shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old. I

found out

> they were "HOT SHOTS"/ that means that the lot number on them was

bad. other

> children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I don't

think all

> autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!!

I love my son

> to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an

advacate for

> my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

>

> Re: This is good

> news........ .......

>

[Guest guest]

Ann, Why do you think so many are so sue happy. you live with what

has been given. Look at Bill gates. There is a role in life for my

child. You are obviously in the tradtional medical field. This is

our nations future. Change is what I hope for the future. Think

about every individual child. How about testing before giving? Kathy

-- In AutismBehaviorProblems , ann jones

wrote:

>

> And if you have proof how much you sueing them for. Omg is nothing

to do with it get on with caring for your child instead of trying to

blame it on other things

> Ann

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> Subject: Re: This is good news...............

> To: AutismBehaviorProblems

> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM

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> Ann,

>  I have proof that J's autism came from the

> shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old.  I

found out

> they were " HOT SHOTS " / that means that the lot number on them was

bad. other

> children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I don't

think all

> autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!!

I love my son

> to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an

advacate for

> my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

>

> Re: This is good

> news........ .......

>

[Guest guest]

There is notAnn

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> To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:53 AM

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> Ann,

> I know my son and I know what happened to

> him. Why are you so judgamental about some things you don't know

anything about?

> do you know my son????? No!! Do I know your grandson?? NO! This is

a group that

> is to be here for everyone not condem everything someone says

because you think

> you know it all!!!!!!! Thats it!!!!!! I am not saying anything else

to you.

> Lois

>

> Re: This is good

> news........ .......

>

[Guest guest]

I agree totally with you. It just irks me when people want to try to blame this on others when no one is at faultAnn> > Subject: Re: This is good news........ .......> To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> Ann,> I have proof that J's autism came from the > shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old. I found out > they were "HOT SHOTS"/ that means that the lot number on them was bad. other > children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I don't think all > autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!! I love my son > to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an advacate for > my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois> > Re: This is good > news........ .......>

[Guest guest]

I understand this but when someone else challenges someone to make

them fell inadequate or talk about sueing I go off. Sorry who I

offend but I cant sit back when someone else attacks another. The

problem with this is figure it out. too many are affected and there

should be a reason. Think about all the additives ect. The cut

backs on making our food using addivitves and hormones should alo be

considered. kathy

> > From: lois noland <jlois@>

> > Subject: Re: This is good news........ .......

> > To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM

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> >  I have proof that J's autism came from the

> > shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old.  I

> found out

> > they were " HOT SHOTS " / that means that the lot number on them was

> bad. other

> > children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I

don't

> think all

> > autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And

YES!!!!!!!!! !!!!

> I love my son

> > to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been

an

> advacate for

> > my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

> >

> > Re: This is good

> > news........ .......

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Because too many people try to blame things on other people or things. People seem to be obsessed with sueing people for this that and the other. And there is nothing to substanciate any cause for autism at all other than it it is the childs make up or genes.. And no I am not of the old school and I do believe in testing but most innoculations are tested throughly before given. But why do people want to blame some one else. At the end of day no matter what the most important thing is your child.

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> Subject: Re: This is good news........ .......

> To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM

>

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>

>

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> Ann,

> I have proof that J's autism came from the

> shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old. I

found out

> they were "HOT SHOTS"/ that means that the lot number on them was

bad. other

> children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I don't

think all

> autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!!

I love my son

> to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an

advacate for

> my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

>

> Re: This is good

> news........ .......

>

[Guest guest]

Autism has been here for a lot of years and the only reason why people think it is now "epicdemic"is becuase more it it more known about what with the media and such. it was not long ago that autistic people were labled as mentaly ill and there wer swallowed up in those stats so to speak. Autism is a relatively new condition and still not a lot known about it.AnnSubject: Re: This is good news...............To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 3:29 AM

I understand this but when someone else challenges someone to make

them fell inadequate or talk about sueing I go off. Sorry who I

offend but I cant sit back when someone else attacks another. The

problem with this is figure it out. too many are affected and there

should be a reason. Think about all the additives ect. The cut

backs on making our food using addivitves and hormones should alo be

considered. kathy

> > From: lois noland <jlois@>

> > Subject: Re: This is good news........ .......

> > To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM

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> > I have proof that J's autism came from the

> > shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old. I

> found out

> > they were "HOT SHOTS"/ that means that the lot number on them was

> bad. other

> > children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I

don't

> think all

> > autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And

YES!!!!!!!!! !!!!

> I love my son

> > to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been

an

> advacate for

> > my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

> >

> > Re: This is good

> > news........ .......

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What on earth have the world financies got to do with autistic kids. Go and ask your kids doc where the autism comes from and he will say it is in his make up. Have you not asked that ? We did along with a lot of other questions. i do not understand why you want to put a blame on this to any-one as no -one is at fault, and your child is your child no matter whatAnn

>

> Subject: Re: This is good news........ .......

> To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:16 AM

>

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> Ann,

> I have proof that J's autism came from the

> shots. he had 2 shots given to him when he was 18 months old. I

found out

> they were "HOT SHOTS"/ that means that the lot number on them was

bad. other

> children had die,gotten autism,etc,, ,,,from that batch. No-I don't

think all

> autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!!

I love my son

> to bits!!!!!!!! ! I ran the ASA here for 15 years and have been an

advacate for

> my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

>

> Re: This is good

> news........ .......

>

[Guest guest]

Ann,

No one, even the CDC, knows 100% without a doubt what causes autism. For me personally, I can look back and see that my boy was most likely born with autism. However, I know plenty of people who have children that were developing fine until they had the MMR shot, then they lost speech, social skills,etc. Is is genetic? I'm sure. Could it possibly be set off by environmental factors like allergies or vaccines? Absolutely. The point is - nobody knows. Whatever your doctor told you is just an opinion...just like the opinions that all of us have.

There are people out there who are bound and determined to point a finger at someone for causing their childs autism. They might even seem to spend more time pointing fingers than taking care of their child. In those cases, it is a sad thing, but it may just be that the parents are having difficulty dealing with their emotions about their child's diagnosis. We've all been through various stages of dealing with it - and there are days when we are still dealing with it. However, from what I've come to know of the women in this group - none of these women are spending their time ignoring their children and being "sue-happy". Quite the opposite - we have mothers who are truly looking to help their children to the best of their ability, and we have open, respectful discussions about our opinions on various topics.

You have a right to your opinion. However, you shouldn't use that opinion to make another person feel inferior.

Liza

To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:02:26 PMSubject: Re: This is good news...............

Do you really think that autism is to do with injections, I do not . Autism has been here for such a long time and before the diagnosis came in the kids that were affected were labled as disruptive bad behaved kids. And how long do you think it will take to prove that childs autism was caused by a vaccine, years and years and as vacines are given to really small babies it wil be doubly hard to prove. No that is not the way for me as I for one will not go that that way. My grandson is the way he is because that is the way he is made and I love him to bits Ann

Subject: This is good news........ .......To: WACASAyahoogroups (DOT) com, H_A_P_P_Y_@yahoogro ups.com, "" <xander95608@ yahoo.com>, gloriaknight3@ aol.com, " S." <puddintang12003@ yahoo.com>, DMILLS0208aol (DOT) com, minermarilyn@ aol.com, "Jim Lynch (E-mail)" <lynch@montgomerycou ntymd.gov>, AutismMeds@yahoogro ups.com, AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com, landAutismRecov eryCoalition@ yahoogroups. com, "Carol Ebersole" <eberscarwcboe (DOT) k12.md.us>, " De Jong" <kedejongmsn (DOT) com>, " " <ThompMarwcboe (DOT) k12.md.us>Date: Friday, February 27, 2009,

1:29 AM

://www.huffingt onpost.com/ david-kirby/ nih-agency- head-vaccine- a_b_170034. html"A major health official within the United States Government today endorsed more research into possible links between vaccination and autism, saying that such studies are "legitimate. " The official, Dr. Duane , Director of the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD), an NIH agency, said scientists must investigate susceptible subpopulations of children, including kids with mitochondrial disorders and those who have trouble metabolizing mercury..."

http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ david-kirby/ nih-agency- head-vaccine- a_b_170034. html

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Lois Noland Always in search for the "cure"

Lois NolandI don't give inI don't give upAnd I don't take no for an answerAlways looking for the "Cure"

I don't give inI don't give upAnd I don't take NO for an answer.

If God Brings you to it,He will Bring you though it.

[Guest guest]

I agree....let's work together to support each other and the kids. Its our job as a parent.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Liza C Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:14:39 -0800 (PST)To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: Re: This is good news............... Ann,No one, even the CDC, knows 100% without a doubt what causes autism. For me personally, I can look back and see that my boy was most likely born with autism. However, I know plenty of people who have children that were developing fine until they had the MMR shot, then they lost speech, social skills,etc. Is is genetic? I'm sure. Could it possibly be set off by environmental factors like allergies or vaccines? Absolutely. The point is - nobody knows. Whatever your doctor told you is just an opinion...just like the opinions that all of us have. There are people out there who are bound and determined to point a finger at someone for causing their childs autism. They might even seem to spend more time pointing fingers than taking care of their child. In those cases, it is a sad thing, but it may just be that the parents are having difficulty dealing with their emotions about their child's diagnosis. We've all been through various stages of dealing with it - and there are days when we are still dealing with it. However, from what I've come to know of the women in this group - none of these women are spending their time ignoring their children and being "sue-happy". Quite the opposite - we have mothers who are truly looking to help their children to the best of their ability, and we have open, respectful discussions about our opinions on various topics. You have a right to your opinion. However, you shouldn't use that opinion to make another person feel inferior. LizaFrom: ann jones <f.iddie>To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:02:26 PMSubject: Re: This is good news...............Do you really think that autism is to do with injections, I do not . Autism has been here for such a long time and before the diagnosis came in the kids that were affected were labled as disruptive bad behaved kids. And how long do you think it will take to prove that childs autism was caused by a vaccine, years and years and as vacines are given to really small babies it wil be doubly hard to prove. No that is not the way for me as I for one will not go that that way. My grandson is the way he is because that is the way he is made and I love him to bits AnnSubject: This is good news........ .......To: WACASAyahoogroups (DOT) com, H_A_P_P_Y_@yahoogro ups.com, "" <xander95608@ yahoo.com>, gloriaknight3@ aol.com, " S." <puddintang12003@ yahoo.com>, DMILLS0208aol (DOT) com, minermarilyn@ aol.com, "Jim Lynch (E-mail)" <lynch@montgomerycou ntymd.gov>, AutismMeds@yahoogro ups.com, AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com, landAutismRecov eryCoalition@ yahoogroups. com, "Carol Ebersole" <eberscarwcboe (DOT) k12.md.us>, " De Jong" <kedejongmsn (DOT) com>, " " <ThompMarwcboe (DOT) k12.md.us>Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 1:29 AM://www.huffingt onpost.com/ david-kirby/ nih-agency- head-vaccine- a_b_170034. html"A major health official within the United States Government today endorsed more research into possible links between vaccination and autism, saying that such studies are "legitimate. " The official, Dr. Duane , Director of the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD), an NIH agency, said scientists must investigate susceptible subpopulations of children, including kids with mitochondrial disorders and those who have trouble metabolizing mercury..."http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ david-kirby/ nih-agency- head-vaccine- a_b_170034. html.Lois Noland Always in search for the "cure" Lois NolandI don't give inI don't give upAnd I don't take no for an answerAlways looking for the "Cure" I don't give inI don't give upAnd I don't take NO for an answer. If God Brings you to it,He will Bring you though it.

[Guest guest]

My oldest daughter, now 26 had severe reactions to her first DPT

shot, screams like you have never heard a baby scream before, then 22

hours after her MMR she had a grand-mal seizure. She stopped

breathing in the ambulance, but they were able to bring her back. At

the time you had to have a Dr. refer you to the vaccine injury list,

and no Dr agreed with me that the shots caused her problems. She is

fine now no problems. I read a book back then called " DPT A Shot in

the Dark " which made me cry with some of the stories in it. The

federal gov took over the injury list and changed the law about being

able to sue drug manufacturers since so many quit making the vaccines

because they had been sued.

I believe that my son was born with the " chance " that he could be

autistic (or anything else) and something triggered it. After the

problems I had had with my oldest and her shots my younger 3 did not

get shots like other children. Due to how strict I am on shots I do

not think that the shots caused or triggered s' Autism. I do

wish I knew what did though.

JMHO FWIW

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> autism is caused by shots but a good many is. And YES!!!!!!!!! !!!!

I love my son

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> my son (And Others) for a long time. Lois

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